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Local => Nigerian Languages => Topic started by: Agbe on October 16, 2024, 07:06:39 PM
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I have been saying this to many people in my locality, see the problem in Nigeria is the World Bank and IMF. These are the two international institutions that control the economic aspects of the third world countries. I have said this in one of the comment in this forum but I can't remember the thread again but I strongly believe that I have made such statements which someone asked me if is sure of what I was saying and I gave him some proves. Every president that comes in the world back World Bank and IMF would create their policies to the president and it is the duty of the president to accept it or not. Tinubu accepted them and that is why we are suffering like this. Because those policies are for the benefit of the World Bank and IMF.
See let me tell you my brothers and sisters. I only blame Nigerian Police and Army of what is happening in the country and not really the president because the citizens of Nigeria can change the narrative overnight but this nonsense cohesive forces will not allow it because of the small stipend from above. I have said before those who are selling things should not sell to the police and army then they will know how serious this is to the poor man. At that they would not come and kill the seller. It is only massive protests can solve this problem in the country.
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This is an indirect rules which must reject with good protest from all the states in the country.
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Omo if I'm being sincere at this point I don't even believe Nigerians have a voice the last protest we were supposed to do I really had high hopes for it but it still didn't turn out well
If we tried protesting it's just going to be a repetition of the lekki gate incident lowkey I don give up on the country
Corruption has eaten way too deep into the economy
Meanwhile T-pain doesn't even know what is going on
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Omo if I'm being sincere at this point I don't even believe Nigerians have a voice the last protest we were supposed to do I really had high hopes for it but it still didn't turn out well
If we tried protesting it's just going to be a repetition of the lekki gate incident lowkey I don give up on the country
Corruption has eaten way too deep into the economy
Meanwhile T-pain doesn't even know what is going on
Don't give up. You know why the October first protest was not like the previous one because Nigeria police were on the neck of the sponsor and other leaders of the protest. Protest has not started but they have started arrested some key members. Till now most of the protesters are still in prison. And these are things police need to support the citizens to liberate the country instead they are supporting the oppressive leaders who are working for the World Bank and IMF. What was happening in the colonial time is still happening now. British is still ruling Nigeria and they don't want to let go of it. Any president that enter and fall for their hands, they used the person very well. All those Dangote refineries are just foe formalities they are behind everything. They are using NNPC to distabilizing everything in the oil sector. Nigeria will never have 24 hours like if a drastic steps is not taking...
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Omo if I'm being sincere at this point I don't even believe Nigerians have a voice the last protest we were supposed to do I really had high hopes for it but it still didn't turn out well
If we tried protesting it's just going to be a repetition of the lekki gate incident lowkey I don give up on the country
Corruption has eaten way too deep into the economy
Meanwhile T-pain doesn't even know what is going on
Don't give up. You know why the October first protest was not like the previous one because Nigeria police were on the neck of the sponsor and other leaders of the protest. Protest has not started but they have started arrested some key members. Till now most of the protesters are still in prison. And these are things police need to support the citizens to liberate the country instead they are supporting the oppressive leaders who are working for the World Bank and IMF. What was happening in the colonial time is still happening now. British is still ruling Nigeria and they don't want to let go of it. Any president that enter and fall for their hands, they used the person very well. All those Dangote refineries are just foe formalities they are behind everything. They are using NNPC to distabilizing everything in the oil sector. Nigeria will never have 24 hours like if a drastic steps is not taking...
That is something I don't still get about the police is it that they receive special treatment from the government or this economy nor dey touch them because I don't understand
I actually thought the nigeria police and soldiers will be on the side of the citizens because truly Things are no longer funny
But still they were arresting and beating up protesters
It's so disappointing
That aside you said I should not give up but I don't see a reason not to
Or can you give me some reasons I shouldn't.
1 create of egg is literally about to hit 10k
So person nor go still fit chop egg again
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Tinubu accepted them and that is why we are suffering like this. Because those policies are for the benefit of the World Bank and IMF.
The truth is that they’ll always want something that benefits them and it’s so unfortunate that we don’t have a president that is intelligent enough to see this and make a better negotiation and come up with a better agreement with them.
To me I just feel, he’s doing this and taking all this loans so that he’ll get more avenue to fill his personal wallets and not because he wants to work on the country.
I have said before those who are selling things should not sell to the police and army then they will know how serious this is to the poor man. At that they would not come and kill the seller. It is only massive protests can solve this problem in the country.
If Nigeria was a better country this would have worked but the fact that this country is not organized will make this not possible - if people decide to go on and not sell to those in the military support the current administration, trust me some civilians will go and help them purchase the stuffs they need and get paid for their assistance.
See as long as money is involved I don’t think we can actually trust the human nature because it can easily deceive people just to get their own from it.
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Omo if I'm being sincere at this point I don't even believe Nigerians have a voice the last protest we were supposed to do I really had high hopes for it but it still didn't turn out well
If we tried protesting it's just going to be a repetition of the lekki gate incident lowkey I don give up on the country
Corruption has eaten way too deep into the economy
Meanwhile T-pain doesn't even know what is going on
Nigerians has voices to speak out, but our voices are been shut out by the majority. Yes as we keep complaining that things are hard, some people are out there whom they will give some amount of money which isn't even enough to cover their expenses and they will start supporting the opposite side. Like we say in the last protest, we had some stupid Nigerians(sorry to say) whom we're putting on anti protest clothes? Like what nonsense. Just because of small 5k they gave you that won't feed you for a day and you already let them buy your voice's.. I'm so disappointed by Nigeria youths..
My state didn't take it serious at all, they had dj, they cooked food and were sharing on the protest grounds more like a carnival... How then will the government take us seriously..
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If Nigeria was a better country this would have worked but the fact that this country is not organized will make this not possible - if people decide to go on and not sell to those in the military support the current administration, trust me some civilians will go and help them purchase the stuffs they need and get paid for their assistance.
See as long as money is involved I don’t think we can actually trust the human nature because it can easily deceive people just to get their own from it.
Firstly I don chill out for 9ja matter Tay Tay to the extent say I no de always de interested much to de talk about am . The truth be say if you settle analyse the whole thing ennn no b only the government dem be the problem oo the citizens them join sef. Them just de too cheap and naive to d extent say dem de very easy to buy their voice.
I de always talk am say the day way Naija really ready to change enn things go change by force all the ones way dem de do since na play na y d government no gree take dem seriously. One of the closest liberation way Nigerian ms b serious out way b de closest liberation we b get na END SARS na y dem quick abort am wen e b don almost cast.
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I de always talk am say the day way Naija really ready to change enn things go change by force all the ones way dem de do since na play na y d government no gree take dem seriously. One of the closest liberation way Nigerian ms b serious out way b de closest liberation we b get na END SARS na y dem quick abort am wen e b don almost cast.
During the END SARS protest everyone came out with the same mindset and they didn’t give the government enough time for them to come up with a counter strategy unlike the last one they did (End Bad Governance).
If we all come out without fear the government will have no choice but to listen to us, but still they’ll be some Nigerians that won’t want to participate in it (some states won’t want to do anything and I’m sure we all know why) and that little apathy that they are showing will spread to other people which will result in lesser people coming out for the movement.
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Lol.
From world bank?I find this very funny actually.
Blaming the world bank for any problem we are facing today in Nigeria is something no to be mentioned at all.Are you considering the government?this setkf people who steal billions daily?and you still blame the world bank who we owe more than a billion in dollars?
Lol
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You have a point. I've once heard that the IMF happens to be a major contributor to the problems that the country is going through. Countries that borrows money from them are automatically devaluating their own currencies in return, and I guess most of us know about this. This is the same thing the IMF planned to do in El Salvador, but Nayib Bukele(the El Salvador president) didn't welcome them. I believe you've come across news of IMF telling El Salvador that they are making a mistake by making Bitcoin a legal tender. This people wants to see so many countries fall apart, but unfortunately for the leaders wey we get, them think say na better thing the IMF dey do.
I'm not sure of how the whole security agency and civilians thing will go in terms of protest. It's the duty of every security agencies to listen and adhere to the instructions from their superior above, and their superior above are the ones that take direct instructions from the government. You don't expect a junior officer to go against the laws of his superior when the superior readily accepts instructions from the government. If you want to see these security agencies on your side, then it all depends on the instructions that the superior gives, which won't happen because they are well fed with corrupt money. This is the problem we face when the people in power are in charge of appointing security heads, which isn't suppose to be so, because such agency needs to be neutral.
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I understand your pain mate and I also feel the same way. The Military and the police are already part of the corruption so how do you want them to support the masses to fight for their rights. Military recieves order from their commander why Police recieves order from the top, making majority of these security men handicap on whatever thing that is happening in the country. The top Generals and Commissioner of police are the ones messing things up for us in this country, because they are the ones dining and winning with these so called leaders for their own national cake.
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OP I understand your point here and I think I will say that the IMF are also contributing to some extent the issues most countries are facing as a result of the government running to them for financial aid but however, I think we should tell ourselves the truth the IMF is like a bank too, if you must take money from them, you will have to meet their demands and requirements before they grant you your request which we all know as it is common in the banking sector.
If our leaders do not run to them to borrow money, they would not impose any policy for them to agree to but the truth is that our our leaders out of greed and selfishness from what they would benefit from the money through contract and embezzlement would agree and sign to the policy mortgaging the future of the country and her citizens.
Our country's problem is a leadership problem and our leaders are mismanaging our resources. Poor policy formulation, weak system of government, inactive regulatory agencies everywhere. Till our government fix up things by putting good favorable economic policies, the economy would still remain the same. Mismanagement is the major problem of our country not IMF. If our leaders manage our resources very well we have nothing to do with IMF and their forced policies on our economy.
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I have been saying this to many people in my locality, see the problem in Nigeria is the World Bank and IMF. These are the two international institutions that control the economic aspects of the third world countries. I have said this in one of the comment in this forum but I can't remember the thread again but I strongly believe that I have made such statements which someone asked me if is sure of what I was saying and I gave him some proves. Every president that comes in the world back World Bank and IMF would create their policies to the president and it is the duty of the president to accept it or not. Tinubu accepted them and that is why we are suffering like this. Because those policies are for the benefit of the World Bank and IMF.
It will not be a responsible thing to start shifting the blame to another person or an international organization. Since the IMF formulates policy that they give to every incoming president to see if they are accepted or not, then you should blame our president for accepting it because he put us in this condition. He had the opportunity to decline the policies, knowing the consequences they would have on us. Whatever he stood to gain from accepting the policies, which I am sure is access to loans, we could have done without it and found alternatives. But because they have selfish interest and not the interests of the common man, they greedily accept policies to get huge loans that they can embezzle. Our problem is with our leaders, not the IMF or World Bank.
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Bro me and u na Nigerians make we dey realistic and talk the truth. Make we no use world bank and IMF as excuse abeg. Na the world bank dey tell the president wetin to do, small Ghana no follow for world bank stuff why e no dey affect them this one na the first time I dey hear new thing like this oo. Na first bank tell am to remove fuel subsidy?
As a president you remove subsidy no be bad one oya build us refinery na the problem be that.
See make I tell u Nigeria problem no dey finish the matter be say person wey dey wake up for morning see food to chop make him thank God and mind him business that is the only way to survive in Nigeria.
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Bro me and u na Nigerians make we dey realistic and talk the truth. Make we no use world bank and IMF as excuse abeg. Na the world bank dey tell the president wetin to do, small Ghana no follow for world bank stuff why e no dey affect them this one na the first time I dey hear new thing like this oo. Na first bank tell am to remove fuel subsidy?
As a president you remove subsidy no be bad one oya build us refinery na the problem be that.
See make I tell u Nigeria problem no dey finish the matter be say person wey dey wake up for morning see food to chop make him thank God and mind him business that is the only way to survive in Nigeria.
You have a point here. And If you check my reply on this same thread above, I think I stated how the IMF happens to be part of the whole thing, and I also stated how they can successfully manipulate a country, thereby decreasing the value of their currency. I made an example with the El Salvador president, who didn't give hears to the IMF warning on Bitcoin. That's a president who knows what's right and what's wrong. It's very true that the presidency or head of a national is to be blame, especially in our case in this country, but the whole problem is coming from the IMF.
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but the whole problem is coming from the IMF.
I do not think so that the whole problem is coming from the IMF. The international Organization would do everything to protect their interest as the case may be. This is just like a case of a borrower going to the lender or a bank to get some loan and is fully aware that the bank have some policies which involves the borrower having a collateral and fulfilling the requirements before they grant them access to the loan they request for. Before they go for the loan, they are fully prepared for whatever the outcome or the demand from the lenders would be. This is the situation of the IMF and our leaders, they go there fully prepared to accept the IMF conditions without negotiating their way through for a soft landing when they know already what they themselves stand to benefit from their greed and have no conscience.
IMF is on their own and not forcing or compelling anybody to take their loan, so anybody going to them would have to accept to their terms and conditions before they could access the loan and if you are not satisfied with their policy, you leave them to their fate and source for elsewhere and better go back and work on your economy to making sure you are self dependent. I still reiterate that our problem lies within our leadership and their mismanagement coupled with their reckless spending.
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but the whole problem is coming from the IMF.
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If I wish you really understand what is happening in the political scene in Nigeria you won't say this. Many people blame our leaders oh yes our leaders are not strong enough to break the umbilical cord from these institutions because after the colonialism, the colonial masters used these institutions to continue the exploitation and imperialism continues. World Bank and IMF are fully involved in Nigeria Economic problem right now. Let me tell you even those loans dem dey force Nigeria dey collect am. In 2005 Universal Basic Education UBA was introduced in the Nigerian educational system which was a loan given to the then president by force and OBJ rejected it at first but was forced again foe him to collect and he collected it. But today UBA is nowhere to be found. I don't want to talk about much because we dey internet.
I even create this thread because of the news I got from the youth. Those who no know dey blame our leaders. Do you know dat Tinubu na conservativist? Tinubu was having the intention to do well in the country but the forces do not allow him. Most Nigeria collect loan? No. Nigeria can survive with her natural resources but those institutions loaning us because they want to partake in the natural resources. In fact all di problem is wey happen in Nigeria those guys e dey involved. Boko Haram? Bandit, and others? And when it happens they are di first to support the victims.
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but the whole problem is coming from the IMF.
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If I wish you really understand what is happening in the political scene in Nigeria you won't say this. Many people blame our leaders oh yes our leaders are not strong enough to break the umbilical cord from these institutions because after the colonialism, the colonial masters used these institutions to continue the exploitation and imperialism continues. World Bank and IMF are fully involved in Nigeria Economic problem right now. Let me tell you even those loans dem dey force Nigeria dey collect am. In 2005 Universal Basic Education UBA was introduced in the Nigerian educational system which was a loan given to the then president by force and OBJ rejected it at first but was forced again foe him to collect and he collected it. But today UBA is nowhere to be found. I don't want to talk about much because we dey internet.
I even create this thread because of the news I got from the youth. Those who no know dey blame our leaders. Do you know dat Tinubu na conservativist? Tinubu was having the intention to do well in the country but the forces do not allow him. Most Nigeria collect loan? No. Nigeria can survive with her natural resources but those institutions loaning us because they want to partake in the natural resources. In fact all di problem is wey happen in Nigeria those guys e dey involved. Boko Haram? Bandit, and others? And when it happens they are di first to support the victims.
It has to be always kept in mind, that the position Nigeria is in today, first of all was molded by internal conditions of such state, as well as the power of external institutions’ pressure. However the outside forces are very real we still have the capacity or the ability to better manage our natural resources externally. These external engagements are not adequately explained to society; thus, together with everyone, this awareness must be created before trying to find better solutions for our economy. The problem is that the challenges ahead of the country are not small but the optimality of all those above factors can reduce the impact of such external shocks and produce growth that is inclusive to all the citizens of Nigeria.
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but the whole problem is coming from the IMF.
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If I wish you really understand what is happening in the political scene in Nigeria you won't say this. Many people blame our leaders oh yes our leaders are not strong enough to break the umbilical cord from these institutions because after the colonialism, the colonial masters used these institutions to continue the exploitation and imperialism continues. World Bank and IMF are fully involved in Nigeria Economic problem right now. Let me tell you even those loans dem dey force Nigeria dey collect am. In 2005 Universal Basic Education UBA was introduced in the Nigerian educational system which was a loan given to the then president by force and OBJ rejected it at first but was forced again foe him to collect and he collected it. But today UBA is nowhere to be found. I don't want to talk about much because we dey internet.
I even create this thread because of the news I got from the youth. Those who no know dey blame our leaders. Do you know dat Tinubu na conservativist? Tinubu was having the intention to do well in the country but the forces do not allow him. Most Nigeria collect loan? No. Nigeria can survive with her natural resources but those institutions loaning us because they want to partake in the natural resources. In fact all di problem is wey happen in Nigeria those guys e dey involved. Boko Haram? Bandit, and others? And when it happens they are di first to support the victims.
It has to be always kept in mind, that the position Nigeria is in today, first of all was molded by internal conditions of such state, as well as the power of external institutions’ pressure. However the outside forces are very real we still have the capacity or the ability to better manage our natural resources externally. These external engagements are not adequately explained to society; thus, together with everyone, this awareness must be created before trying to find better solutions for our economy. The problem is that the challenges ahead of the country are not small but the optimality of all those above factors can reduce the impact of such external shocks and produce growth that is inclusive to all the citizens of Nigeria.
These internal conditions are the reasons the country is as it is today. The powers that be do not want things to go well so that all their wrong doings would not be brought to the notice of the masses. They prefer things to be done their ways so they could be in charge and they do every thing possible to frustrate anybody that wants to cut them off their powers.
The external engagement is as a result of the few internal unknown powers that always want to mortgage the future of the country for their selfish interest. They strategically compel the incumbent to go for it by their actions and so far if I am not mistaken, all the past leaders of the country have in one way or the other requested for loans and have been granted to them and their forced policies accepted as a condition for it. So what I am trying to say is that Forces unknown to the masses in the in the council controls the country and because of them the possibility of the country where it is today.