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Title: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 19, 2024, 04:55:48 PM
Well, this is not me typing just just sharing a tweet I came across on X, which is from a dude i have been following for a while, who seems to have some good knowledge of the crypto market since way back..

And here is his post in quote....
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Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥

Ethereum will hit $20k🔥

Many altcoins will do 20X - 100X

Lots of Memes will do 1000X - 100,000X

The market is about to blow up💰🔥

How do I know?

There is nothing new under the sun

What is today is what has been and what will be tomorrow.

Yes, history don't exactly repeat itself but it does follow similar pattern.

Let's use a major crypto bull run to predict what could possibly happen in the market in the next couple of weeks and months to come.

If you miss the opportunity the market present now and can't afford to make at least $5k after the next bull run then crypto is not for you.

I don't want this post long, as such I will get straight up to the statistics—

(1) On the 20th October 2016, Bitcoin after halving had a liquidity shock supply, followed by the US presidential election, and ICO craziness everywhere, then the bull run lit up🔥💰

(2) On the 20th October 2020, after Bitcoin halving, liquidity shock supply, again, followed by the US presidential election, but a new narrative sufaced— the "DeFi craziness, then next is a bull run🔥💰

Fast-forward to TODAY—

What similar trend and patterns are playing out in the market right now—

(3) On the 20th Oct 2024, after Bitcoin halving, already there is a liquidity shock supply, the US presidential election will be in November, currently, there is a "Meme craziness" what will follow is a bull run.

The above are a few reoccurring fundamental research

Let's delve a bit into technical research—

Technically, every time Bitcoin do 25MA and 35MA golden cross on the monthly timeframe, what follows next is a parabolic pump.

Again, let's consult history—
 
In 2016-2017 bullrun after the golden cross, Bitcoin pumped over 2,300%
 
In 2020-2021 bull run, after the golden cross, Bitcoin pumped to over 500%
 
Right now, the golden cross has happened, I highly believe it's time for a parabolic pump🔥💰🚀

If history repeats itself which I'm 98% it sure will, what is coming is a dangerous wealth transfer only accessible to those who are positioned.

I beg you in the name of whatever you respect, don't miss this bull run, there might not be another🔥💰🚀

Sell anything that need to be sold to position.

Go and borrow money and pay back in one year time, rent or sell your house, sell your cars, sell any sellable properties.

In fact, if you can, rent out your kids or spouse, when the bull market is over you can go and buy them back🤣😂. This is sarcasm ooh 🤣

The Hallmark is, do everything you can to raise funds to position right now for the bull profit.

So, I am curious to learn what ya all think, do you think he is right?, or wrong? Or are you just in-between this two opinions? Let's discuss about this and as well, the supposed coming bull run.


FIND THE TWEET, PLUS IMAGE PROOFS HERE (https://x.com/JuliusElum/status/1847207712058179981?t=c5-vtgMBwX1VsffYwvPAcg&s=19)

Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Mia Chloe on October 19, 2024, 05:47:42 PM
I'm a a crypto enthusiast too and specifically a bitcoin enthusiast. Well what the guy says is very possible but I'll just summarise the whole thing to time and government regulations and rules. Bitcoin within less than two decades has built so much adoption enough to push it's price from being just the worthless first crypto currency to the most important and valuable crypto currency in the market today.

It's difficult to get  a market pair that is a crypto currency to be on a steady uptrend for a very long time without consecutive pullbacks at intervals. And that's the main reason bitcoin won't get to $200k very very quickly since pull back slow the market down a bit.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: bayu7adi on October 19, 2024, 06:06:56 PM
the data is interesting to digest for the general public, by displaying historical data... however, a high percentage increase seems difficult to happen, considering that we all know that the price of Bitcoin is not as cheap as in 2016... it is possible that the price of $300k will not be achieved in the near future, many are still targeting $100k and that seems difficult to happen

Tomorrow is October 20th, and that is proof... at least currently bullish is happening... breaking through the resistance of $70k is a surprise that will make bitcoin fly even higher.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Findingnemo on October 19, 2024, 07:22:13 PM
300K is bit out of line in my calculation, 150K to 200K is definitely possible based on the historical performance but also we need to consider that we can't expect the same growth like 1000% as before because it reached a place that's too big so the growth might be limited for every cycle and that's the good thing too or else people will just consider it only as bump and dump then the real utility of decentralisation will be left unexplored.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Asiska02 on October 19, 2024, 08:14:53 PM
So, I am curious to learn what ya all think, do you think he is right?, or wrong? Or are you just in-between this two opinions? Let's discuss about this and as well, the supposed coming bull run.

FIND THE TWEET, PLUS IMAGE PROOFS HERE (https://x.com/JuliusElum/status/1847207712058179981?t=c5-vtgMBwX1VsffYwvPAcg&s=19)

He is not wrong with all the analysis he has given about the market and how the market has transgressed since inception from halving to halving and from bull run to bull run every time. History always repeat itself though but in some cases, it’ll not follow same pattern but the ultimate goal of every process will be achieved which is the bull run period. I only want to disagree with his claim that bitcoin will get to $300K this season because that is something we cannot predict in any way but can only be speculating about it always from time to time or what we foresee about the market. The bull run will come but as for that price, I don’t think we can agree and be certain that it’ll reach there.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: 0t3p0t on October 19, 2024, 09:11:58 PM
Maybe that guy has target duration of his holdings and price to take profit that is why he is saying $300k is possible but it really is and we don't have enough idea when will it happen but for me it is really possible given the current situation in the world where crypto investors are cautious about the chaos the world has nowadays and I think Bitcoin would be the best choice for our assets to keep without a trace.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: JISAN on October 19, 2024, 09:21:11 PM
This analysis is very exciting but I don't think this will happen, bitcoin will need a few more halvings because in this halving, bitcoin price can hit $80 to $85 thousand at most, but if Donald Trump wins the election, maybe it will be in the millions of dollars.  Might hit but not very likely.  We sometimes expect too much from Bitcoin that is not logically supposed to happen.  Different people are making different predictions here but it will be seen how much Bitcoin can hit after Donald Trump wins the election.  But expecting it to hit $300k I think is far too foolish
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: electronicash on October 19, 2024, 09:37:32 PM
Maybe that guy has target duration of his holdings and price to take profit that is why he is saying $300k is possible but it really is and we don't have enough idea when will it happen but for me it is really possible given the current situation in the world where crypto investors are cautious about the chaos the world has nowadays and I think Bitcoin would be the best choice for our assets to keep without a trace.

its usually the case. an investor with large stake of course they'd say everything just Saylor predicting $1M but whatever they say as long as it does make a good publicity for BTC, i think the crypto community will not really make it a big issue.

$300k though is still too big for its jump because BTC had already have its run since the start of this year.  somehow the whales are just doing something like this (https://x.com/naiivememe/status/1847605171058332037) because the price maay depend on the election result.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Gposas on October 19, 2024, 09:57:06 PM
Quite interesting historical update, but in the aspect of governmental effect is he simply saying after the US Election there'll be a good reason for pump in price?
On the other hand, I may not be very good at price speculation but the reason of BTC getting to 300k would take a long time for the case of other market factors including market mechanism of demand and supply and the case of cumbersome sell off from investors which could occur for some reasons.
But I will be glad if the speculation says BTC could grow above it's ATH before the end of the year giving a great pump action for Altcoins.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: vegasus on October 19, 2024, 10:58:02 PM
And indeed for now, the market condition is still running very well. Compared to a week ago, the price of BTC has also increased by more than 8%. and is it possible that tomorrow it will reach $ 70k? Well, elt's see

And for the price of BTC it will be at $ 300k, maybe, but it seems like it will take more time, and maybe not for this bullrun. at least the target for this bullrun I believe that it will touch $ 100k, and maybe it will be more up to $ 130k, it's just that for $ 300k, it might still be quite far, in the next bullrun season it might happen.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Z-tight on October 19, 2024, 11:32:39 PM
I don't know if the last part of his post is a joke, i am talking about the point were he is encouraging people to sell their properties, take loans, just to buy BTC, for the records, that is not a recommended move and i don't support anyone to do that. However, as for $300k, i don't think it is possible in this cycle, i am looking at $150k max, but BTC price is unpredictable, so we wait and see.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: smartaction on October 20, 2024, 08:41:47 AM
the data is interesting to digest for the general public, by displaying historical data... however, a high percentage increase seems difficult to happen, considering that we all know that the price of Bitcoin is not as cheap as in 2016... it is possible that the price of $300k will not be achieved in the near future, many are still targeting $100k and that seems difficult to happen

Tomorrow is October 20th, and that is proof... at least currently bullish is happening... breaking through the resistance of $70k is a surprise that will make bitcoin fly even higher.

$300k price may be in near future but now target is $100k bitcoin price next year. Hope bitcoin market is going to be good soon. Bitcoin market is starting to grow a lot now. Lots of people have commented on bitcoin price from here.  Bitcoin market could be good soon, we have to do now. However, those who have been trading Bitcoin are predicting that the value of Bitcoin will increase several times in the next year.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: hugeblack on October 20, 2024, 10:00:14 AM
I hope we see these prices in 2025, but it will be difficult with the current economic and political changes. We should also not forget that the market has exceeded a trillion dollars, and doubling the price is no longer as easy as it was in the past. To reach 5 trillion dollars, a lot of liquidity must flow.
As for the prices above, they are assuming that the cryptocurrency market will reach half of gold Market Cap.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: royalRitta on October 20, 2024, 10:11:01 AM
the data is interesting to digest for the general public, by displaying historical data... however, a high percentage increase seems difficult to happen, considering that we all know that the price of Bitcoin is not as cheap as in 2016... it is possible that the price of $300k will not be achieved in the near future, many are still targeting $100k and that seems difficult to happen

Tomorrow is October 20th, and that is proof... at least currently bullish is happening... breaking through the resistance of $70k is a surprise that will make bitcoin fly even higher.

$300k price may be in near future but now target is $100k bitcoin price next year. Hope bitcoin market is going to be good soon. Bitcoin market is starting to grow a lot now. Lots of people have commented on bitcoin price from here.  Bitcoin market could be good soon, we have to do now. However, those who have been trading Bitcoin are predicting that the value of Bitcoin will increase several times in the next year.

I too think this way.
Also, the part about selling your house and so on is just a craze about BTC overall, however, I do agree BTC will pump in 2025, albeit to an unknown degree yet.
Only time will tell.
 ;D
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: taufik123 on October 20, 2024, 02:47:03 PM
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$300k though is still too big for its jump because BTC had already have its run since the start of this year.  somehow the whales are just doing something like this (https://x.com/naiivememe/status/1847605171058332037) because the price maay depend on the election result.
The results of the election will certainly have an extraordinary biased effect, if Trump wins this will also be a victory for Bitcoin and Bitcoin may reach a new ATH.

But if Trump loses, then some downside effect may occur, this is a strong fundamental effect so that price movements can happen quickly.

To reach $300k certainly takes an incredible boost, I don't know when that will happen, But my closest target will only settle at $100k, that's enough and will sell it which will then buy it back at a lower price, this is a strategy.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Stompix on October 20, 2024, 03:09:09 PM
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Again, let's consult history—
 
In 2016-2017 bullrun after the golden cross, Bitcoin pumped over 2,300%
 In 2020-2021 bull run, after the golden cross, Bitcoin pumped to over 500%

Whenever I hear those I have the urge to tell them to look in $ the value and when you look like that you see that Bitcoin has grown from 1k to 70k since 2013, when you avoid percentage growth and you see an average value growth of $7000 a year the optimism starts to fade away a bit.

Also the 100 000x for meme coins is a bit ridiculous, the only coin that managed this was Shiba with 200kx but that was only because it was trading at something below 10 decimals after zero, no way for other meme coins to gain those, you would need trillions for that and no, those trillions are simply not there.

Now, if you look at what this guy says, with a 5x for Bitcoin, a 8x for ETH and 20-100x for altcoins we're already in the 15-20 trillion market cap range increase, so...common!
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Bobcrypto on October 20, 2024, 04:21:45 PM
I'm a a crypto enthusiast too and specifically a bitcoin enthusiast. Well what the guy says is very possible but I'll just summarise the whole thing to time and government regulations and rules. Bitcoin within less than two decades has built so much adoption enough to push it's price from being just the worthless first crypto currency to the most important and valuable crypto currency in the market today.

It's difficult to get  a market pair that is a crypto currency to be on a steady uptrend for a very long time without consecutive pullbacks at intervals. And that's the main reason bitcoin won't get to $200k very very quickly since pull back slow the market down a bit.

Yeah, Bitcoin has built itself not just as the most valuable asset in the crypto world but also the most traded assets globally. Generally, Bitcoin has witnessed huge adoptions over the last two decades but there are factors that has kept the price movements at a slow pace, and some of these factors includes,
Market makers: Market makers, especially big whales try to control the market at their own will by dumping the market with heavy supply.
Again, market pull backs, as you have mentioned will always take place at certain time, and also at certain intervals too, there will always occur some trends corrections.

In additions, negative speculations, fear and greed, poor demands are added factors that hinder Bitcoin continueous price increase. I think price will be moving gradually till it hits $300k in near future.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: albon on October 20, 2024, 07:39:02 PM
The value of bitcoin like any other investment can fluctuate over time. Although it has experienced periods of decline in the past, it also has the potential to increase in value in the future. It is important to remember that cryptocurrency markets can be extremely volatile and unpredictable. So all future predictions may not be correct. But i always assume that the future of bitcoin always has only two possible outcomes. it will either go to zero or be worth millions of dollars. That simply means it will either be a bright future or a very dark place. Still very few people actually own the wealth like in my family me and my brother own it and the rest don't know about it. So we can definitely expect good results if bitcoin investors increase in future.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Crwth on October 20, 2024, 08:08:52 PM
I thought this was a prediction tweet or something, but it’s just sharing his opinion and providing facts. I thought it was something like an incredible post from the past. I’m thinking we will be checking this once we get to that goal price, you know?

There should be a lot of money coming in to help the BTC market reach that high, but maybe more sources will be available in the future.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Tribalchief on October 20, 2024, 08:16:00 PM
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So, I am curious to learn what ya all think, do you think he is right?, or wrong? Or are you just in-between this two opinions? Let's discuss about this and as well, the supposed coming bull run.

Well, so far so good, I don't think the guy has said anything that is not correct, in other sense, he is right from the way he has analyzed history. Maybe the recent sudden pump is probably an evidence to back his claim or the market moving crazy again with some speculation, we can never know. What if his prediction turns south (which we don't hope for), and his prediction or should I say analysis, don't go as predicted?. In 2024 alone, we've witnessed few pumping activities, which the ETF approval incident was actually the first. Bitcoin even hit it's ATH, which was never part of history. After the halving, we didn't get much until recently.

To me, this is probably one of those speculation that comes as a result of certain activities that has occurred before. In as much as we ought to be prepared at all times for any possible opportunity (wether bull or bear), borrowing seems to be a terrible advice.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on October 20, 2024, 09:15:42 PM
I thought this was a prediction tweet or something, but it’s just sharing his opinion and providing facts. I thought it was something like an incredible post from the past. I’m thinking we will be checking this once we get to that goal price, you know?

There should be a lot of money coming in to help the BTC market reach that high, but maybe more sources will be available in the future.
Well, I honestly also think that the guy who posted that tweet exaggerated a bit, bitcoin reaching $300k in a few months or weeks from where it currently is today appear to be more impossible than it appears to be possible, I am very optimistic in the price increase of bitcoin in the coming months, but not in the tune of it increasing to a whooping $300k, if the price of bitcoin reaches this height, man, the entire crypto market and Ecosystem will be on serious fire.

Personally, I am expecting to see the price of bitcoin grow to atleast, $120k to $150k, at $150k, we already have more than a very good bull run, but then, I am still yet to see a catalyst, because currently, I don't believe even Trump winning the coming election will be able to get bitcoin to that price, but all the same, let keep watching with our fingers crossed.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Z-tight on October 20, 2024, 10:50:43 PM
There should be a lot of money coming in to help the BTC market reach that high, but maybe more sources will be available in the future.
I don't really mind predictions like this, anyone can make their own personal prediction, we have read some crazy predictions in the past and we usually get more of it after the halving. $300k is not such a crazy prediction, it is very possible, i am not just sure if it can happen this cycle, but it will in the future.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: PX-Z on October 20, 2024, 11:04:53 PM
Too much hype, i say. But it could be possible, but 300k is too much, even reaching 100k will be hard knowing lots of people probably sell their holdings once it reached that height so price will be pulled down for a moment or for longer time.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: 0t3p0t on October 20, 2024, 11:05:44 PM
There should be a lot of money coming in to help the BTC market reach that high, but maybe more sources will be available in the future.
I don't really mind predictions like this, anyone can make their own personal prediction, we have read some crazy predictions in the past and we usually get more of it after the halving. $300k is not such a crazy prediction, it is very possible, i am not just sure if it can happen this cycle, but it will in the future.
Well yeah $300k moght be that high for a bullrun but you are right that maybe it will take time to reach that range not unless something is pushing that into the ceiling. There could always be something that will trigger the price to get up that high but at this moment we don't have any idea what it is so that is what we are going to see and wait.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: sampoerna on October 20, 2024, 11:59:08 PM
Well yeah $300k moght be that high for a bullrun but you are right that maybe it will take time to reach that range not unless something is pushing that into the ceiling. There could always be something that will trigger the price to get up that high but at this moment we don't have any idea what it is so that is what we are going to see and wait.
Maybe this will be rumored again after the next bullrun. But for the bullrun predicted in 2025, it will not be easy to meet that number, even though the increase is drastic compared to the past.

As for the $300k rate, maybe in the next bullrun, 2x again, maybe. This is reasonable enough so that we can prepare. Because we don't need to expect too high which might actually harm us if we are late in taking profit because we expect a rate that high.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: SamReomo on October 21, 2024, 01:31:24 AM
Bitcoin will hit $100k that's true and that's going to happen very soon but one it crosses $100k then there's high chance that it might not be able to move upward once again or there's chance that it might reach $120k or $150 when bull run gets intense. However, the prediction about meme coins is true this time, I believe this bull run is going to favor meme coin holders way more than others.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: enoch_from_off on October 21, 2024, 11:46:43 AM
Bitcoin will hit $100k that's true and that's going to happen very soon but one it crosses $100k then there's high chance that it might not be able to move upward once again or there's chance that it might reach $120k or $150 when bull run gets intense. However, the prediction about meme coins is true this time, I believe this bull run is going to favor meme coin holders way more than others.

Only time will tell, however, I do see the BTC rally going with a bigger force as time goes on, and in one moment, the rally is going to explode, bringing the price high above as we imagine it would do.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Azharul on October 21, 2024, 12:19:19 PM
Bitcoin is one of the best valuable crypto in cryptocurrency world. I think that gradually bitcoin price will increase. Because if we follow in cryptocurrency market we saw before in few month its price will down. But if we can see in cryptocurrency market bitcoin price is increase day by day. So i believe that in future bitcoin price wil hit $100k-$150k. But i Couldn't believe that bitcoin price will hit $300k. I also believe that within a short time bitcoin price will hit on $75k. But if iran and Israel war held in this time, it could be best problem for increase bitcoin price.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Jating on October 21, 2024, 02:37:35 PM
There should be a lot of money coming in to help the BTC market reach that high, but maybe more sources will be available in the future.
I don't really mind predictions like this, anyone can make their own personal prediction, we have read some crazy predictions in the past and we usually get more of it after the halving. $300k is not such a crazy prediction, it is very possible, i am not just sure if it can happen this cycle, but it will in the future.
Well yeah $300k moght be that high for a bullrun but you are right that maybe it will take time to reach that range not unless something is pushing that into the ceiling. There could always be something that will trigger the price to get up that high but at this moment we don't have any idea what it is so that is what we are going to see and wait.

Well as what they say, anything can happen in crypto, however, I do believed that we should be predicting prices that are reasonable and not that absurd though. Maybe they put it that way because of click bait and views. But for Bitcoiners, I think it's not going to be hit at least in this bull run as we are just looking for $100k++.

Nevertheless, maybe in the next iteration, maybe $300k is just the beginning and we might go as high as $500k. So for now, let's just enjoy this bull run and see how far we can go and hopefully, $100k at least can be touch.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: target on October 21, 2024, 03:46:28 PM

There are stories about super cycle where this bulldog run could be a super cycle which this could continue up to more than a year of bullish market which this time the alt coins could break it's previous ATH.

Crypto market isn't surprisingly crazy so we know when it's bullish, price could shoot to mars and back to earth and back to the stars. 300k is possible I guess.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Themepen on October 21, 2024, 04:48:50 PM
Well as what they say, anything can happen in crypto, however, I do believed that we should be predicting prices that are reasonable and not that absurd though. Maybe they put it that way because of click bait and views. But for Bitcoiners, I think it's not going to be hit at least in this bull run as we are just looking for $100k++.

Nevertheless, maybe in the next iteration, maybe $300k is just the beginning and we might go as high as $500k. So for now, let's just enjoy this bull run and see how far we can go and hopefully, $100k at least can be touch.
Basically cryptocurrency market is unpredictable making it important to make sensible predictions about prices. By the way some of us make big predictions like Bitcoin reaching $300000 or $500000 these ideas spark interesting conversations.Right now Bitcoin fans are focused on reaching $100,000 or more which would be big achievement.

Since market can be unpredictable it is smart to enjoy current upward trend and see how far it goes. Maybe in future $300000 will be just starting point and Bitcoin will reach even higher prices like $500000.Cryptocurrency market is full of surprises so having realistic expectations helps manage investors hopes. Bitcoin has a lot of potential for growth making future of cryptocurrency exciting and full of possibilities.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: laijsica on October 21, 2024, 05:46:38 PM
Bitcoin is one of the best valuable crypto in cryptocurrency world. I think that gradually bitcoin price will increase. Because if we follow in cryptocurrency market we saw before in few month its price will down. But if we can see in cryptocurrency market bitcoin price is increase day by day. So i believe that in future bitcoin price wil hit $100k-$150k. But i Couldn't believe that bitcoin price will hit $300k. I also believe that within a short time bitcoin price will hit on $75k. But if iran and Israel war held in this time, it could be best problem for increase bitcoin price.
Despite the increasing war situation, Bitcoin price growth is as expected and increasing. We now easily expect that the price of Bitcoin can touch $100k in no time. But we are more inclined to estimate that Bitcoin will rise in value to $300k but I am a bit hesitant to call this estimate completely unexpected because no one at the time of Bitcoin's birth was able to anticipate that its value would increase so much. Many have sold a bitcoin in exchange for a pizza which may seem like fiction to us even though it was not our previous generation and it was only a few years ago. So I think this can really happen and we should tend to accumulate more bitcoins to hold long term.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Lucius on October 21, 2024, 05:52:46 PM
Well, this is not me typing just just sharing a tweet I came across on X, which is from a dude i have been following for a while, who seems to have some good knowledge of the crypto market since way back..

And here is his post in quote...
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If history repeats itself which I'm 98% it sure will, what is coming is a dangerous wealth transfer only accessible to those who are positioned.

I beg you in the name of whatever you respect, don't miss this bull run, there might not be another🔥💰🚀

Sell anything that need to be sold to position.

Go and borrow money and pay back in one year time, rent or sell your house, sell your cars, sell any sellable properties.

In fact, if you can, rent out your kids or spouse, when the bull market is over you can go and buy them back🤣😂. This is sarcasm ooh 🤣

The Hallmark is, do everything you can to raise funds to position right now for the bull profit.


So, I am curious to learn what ya all think, do you think he is right?, or wrong? Or are you just in-between this two opinions? Let's discuss about this and as well, the supposed coming bull run.

Regardless of the fact that there may be sarcasm in what he wrote, I don't like it when people publicly write such things because some may do exactly what he advises - and one of the more important rules when investing (especially in risky things) is not to invest more than we can afford to lose.

It is obvious that you can write anything on the internet (especially if you are anonymous), because there are few who will admit that they made a mistake, the majority pretend that nothing happened.

I won't say that $300k can't happen, but it would take a lot of money and a lot of persistence from those who would be on the demand side, and on the other hand, it would also take a lot of resistance from those who would refuse to sell at $100k and $200k.

This "dude" doesn't have any special knowledge about the market, because everything he wrote can be found online and everyone who follows the crypto market more or less already knows that.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: bounceback on October 21, 2024, 05:56:02 PM
Its freedom for predicting bitcoin hit based on each prediction, but I just looking forward and how much percentage of bitcoin raise up few months later or two until three years later. Nothing impossible in cryptocurrency and bitcoin price break but nowadays have many factor easily make bitcoin get downtrend, although bad news come from outside cryptocurrency but bring bad impact with bitcoin price getting down and the OP prediction about bitcoin will hit $300k take more longer time.

One or two years later seems not enough time to see bitcoin hit most expensive price but needed ten or twenty years later with its possibility.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: MrSpasybo on October 21, 2024, 09:01:14 PM
Its freedom for predicting bitcoin hit based on each prediction, but I just looking forward and how much percentage of bitcoin raise up few months later or two until three years later. Nothing impossible in cryptocurrency and bitcoin price break but nowadays have many factor easily make bitcoin get downtrend, although bad news come from outside cryptocurrency but bring bad impact with bitcoin price getting down and the OP prediction about bitcoin will hit $300k take more longer time.

One or two years later seems not enough time to see bitcoin hit most expensive price but needed ten or twenty years later with its possibility.
We haven't heard many bullish BTC price predictions for this cycle lately, such as $500K-$1M targets they used to claim during the supposed supercycle when they were certain BTC would hit a new ATH at $100K. Most market forecasters have lowered their expectations, often sharing only positive sentiments without specific figures.

$300K might be too big for BTC in this cycle. I personally predict a BTC target of $150K-$170K, roughly 50% of the $300K prediction. We'll see if BTC can surprise us ^^
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: rby on October 21, 2024, 11:52:23 PM
Its freedom for predicting bitcoin hit based on each prediction, but I just looking forward and how much percentage of bitcoin raise up few months later or two until three years later. Nothing impossible in cryptocurrency and bitcoin price break but nowadays have many factor easily make bitcoin get downtrend, although bad news come from outside cryptocurrency but bring bad impact with bitcoin price getting down and the OP prediction about bitcoin will hit $300k take more longer time.

One or two years later seems not enough time to see bitcoin hit most expensive price but needed ten or twenty years later with its possibility.
This month of October marks exactly 15 years since Bitcoin was launched and up till this very moment, the mother coin is yet to exceed the all-time high price of $73k which was recorded earlier this year so if Bitcoin can't hit $75k in it's first 15 years of becoming a digital asset, why then do someone think it'll hit $300k in the next three years? The $100k that was predicted to happen in the current bull run is yet to happen and I think we stick to that prediction first and see if it'll come to a reality before thinking of a $300k price.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: dwyane36 on October 22, 2024, 01:53:01 AM
$300K might be too big for BTC in this cycle. I personally predict a BTC target of $150K-$170K, roughly 50% of the $300K prediction. We'll see if BTC can surprise us ^^

Sounds pretty realistic. Personally, I expect to see a pump to $100k next year, then a small correction and a final pump around $150-200k. Imho, If the Bitcoin price follows such a scenario in this cycle, it will be expected.
As for $300k, $500k, and even $1 million per Bitcoin, it's too early to dream about it. These are too-distant goals at the moment.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: milewilda on October 24, 2024, 02:50:16 PM
$300K might be too big for BTC in this cycle. I personally predict a BTC target of $150K-$170K, roughly 50% of the $300K prediction. We'll see if BTC can surprise us ^^

Sounds pretty realistic. Personally, I expect to see a pump to $100k next year, then a small correction and a final pump around $150-200k. Imho, If the Bitcoin price follows such a scenario in this cycle, it will be expected.
As for $300k, $500k, and even $1 million per Bitcoin, it's too early to dream about it. These are too-distant goals at the moment.
$200k is something that realistic  for this upcoming bull run but of course we dont really know if ever we would really be hitting up these numbers or not.
The  thing on here is that you should really be that something that makes yourself having that kind of versatile when it comes or speaks about probabilities
and be making yourself that go with the flow kind of behavior or type on which this could really be that resulting on making yourself that being impulsive.
Thing here is that you do able to accumulate while Bitcoins price isnt really that still on the peak yet.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Crypto Library on October 24, 2024, 09:56:42 PM
Sounds pretty realistic. Personally, I expect to see a pump to $100k next year, then a small correction and a final pump around $150-200k. Imho, If the Bitcoin price follows such a scenario in this cycle, it will be expected.
As for $300k, $500k, and even $1 million per Bitcoin, it's too early to dream about it. These are too-distant goals at the moment.
Good opinion. Before throwing any opinion of mine I want to remember that some of the analyst in back to 2020 I mean the last bull season some of them make predictions that on that bull season bitcoin will cross the 100k but that not happened.
And so this time we also shouldn't be forget those memories. And for me I saw some prediction in this bull season some of the analyst make analysis that bitcoin will goes up to 80k and stay in under 100k in this bull season.
And I also see some of reputable person are also saying this because we saw bitcoin market in a different way in this season we saw bitcoin crosses its all time high prices before the bitcoin halving and moreover we also don't see any good pump yet. So all theses aspect I am not much hoping for bitcoin in this season And I am hoping for aroun 100k in this bull season.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: debra on October 26, 2024, 09:34:43 PM
$300K might be too big for BTC in this cycle. I personally predict a BTC target of $150K-$170K, roughly 50% of the $300K prediction. We'll see if BTC can surprise us ^^
You're right. I never think Bitcoin will reach $300k in this bullrun season, it is too far from the current price. Yes, $150K-$170K is a more realistic, it is not too far from the current price although it needs a big trigger to reach that price. I personally only predict the highest price of Bitcoin in this bullrun season will be around $100k-$150k. However, it will be also very nice if Bitcoin can cross $150k.  :)

Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Gurujebs on October 26, 2024, 09:43:35 PM
Sounds pretty realistic. Personally, I expect to see a pump to $100k next year, then a small correction and a final pump around $150-200k. Imho, If the Bitcoin price follows such a scenario in this cycle, it will be expected.
As for $300k, $500k, and even $1 million per Bitcoin, it's too early to dream about it. These are too-distant goals at the moment.

It's so worrying how people call price but yet don't carry the discussion with how they intend the price should follow along. It's reasonable to say that Bitcoin can see $100k or even more but calling 300k is like saying that we are going to see another ICO run but the way things has transformed in crypto space, nobody will fall for such tricks again.

However, anytime I look at what has been gong on outside Bitcoin, I mean what people are doing with meme coins, we still have people that are capable of this but they don't have so much money to influence Bitcoin and that is what make Bitcoin even more special because it's can't be manipulatd, to heavy in market capitalization to be toy with small boys.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: vegasus on October 26, 2024, 10:40:48 PM

It's so worrying how people call price but yet don't carry the discussion with how they intend the price should follow along. It's reasonable to say that Bitcoin can see $100k or even more but calling 300k is like saying that we are going to see another ICO run but the way things has transformed in crypto space, nobody will fall for such tricks again.
Unfortunately, there is that there are certain parties who usually will make very hype news related to the price of Bitcoin which will soar very high, so that some people will believe in it and the target price of BTC in the bullish era will be at a rate of $ 300k, but they themselves have also taken profits at $ 100k - $ 150k only. As we experienced last season where there was a lot of news about the price of BTC that would touch the price of $ 100k but it turned out that it did not happen and was only around $ 69k at that time if I'm not mistaken. That's why we have to be wiser and more realistic in accepting various information. Indeed, nothing is impossible, but when talking about the price of Bitcoin this bullish season, it would be more convincing and realistic if the price was in the range of $ 100k to $ 150k, rather than having to set a target that is too high and actually losing the moment to take profits.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Sim_card on October 27, 2024, 01:58:03 PM
I don't believe that bitcoin price will reach 300k because the more adoption, the lesser the volatility becomes, making it impossible for bitcoin to reach such price. Apart from this part, it is possible that history will repeat itself again and the price of bitcoin is close to skyrocketing, but that doesn't mean that we should invest due for FOMO because if it doesn't play out as expected, we might be disappointed. Only invest with an amount that you can afford to lose.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: jeraldskie11 on October 27, 2024, 04:01:41 PM
I don't believe that bitcoin price will reach 300k because the more adoption, the lesser the volatility becomes, making it impossible for bitcoin to reach such price. Apart from this part, it is possible that history will repeat itself again and the price of bitcoin is close to skyrocketing, but that doesn't mean that we should invest due for FOMO because if it doesn't play out as expected, we might be disappointed. Only invest with an amount that you can afford to lose.
Maybe Bitcoin will not reach 300k in this cycle but it is very possible to happen in the right time. Yes, Bitcoin volatility will lessen gradually but it doesn't mean that it's impossible to hit 300k in the future. Only the marketcap and circulating can dictate the price, not the volatility. Investors are likely to invest less volatile coin because they are focus on the risk not on the profit, and that's why Bitcoin is the most invested in crypto world.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: debra on October 29, 2024, 10:49:51 PM
Maybe Bitcoin will not reach 300k in this cycle but it is very possible to happen in the right time. Yes, Bitcoin volatility will lessen gradually but it doesn't mean that it's impossible to hit 300k in the future. Only the marketcap and circulating can dictate the price, not the volatility. Investors are likely to invest less volatile coin because they are focus on the risk not on the profit, and that's why Bitcoin is the most invested in crypto world.
I think it is difficult to reach $300k. Sure, it is not impossible to happen in the future. I don't really know that Bitcoin volatility is decreasing, I think there is nothing wrong with Bitcoin volatility. Bitcoin has increased quite well, although its ATH is only around $73,750 but it looks quite well. It should increase above its current ATH, we just need to wait for the time of the next big pump. Next year will be the right time for the peak of bullrun season. We can assume the real ATH of Bitcoin in this cycle will be in the next year. People predict it will be $100k at least.

Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Paragon2 on October 30, 2024, 02:53:02 AM
Maybe Bitcoin will not reach 300k in this cycle but it is very possible to happen in the right time. Yes, Bitcoin volatility will lessen gradually but it doesn't mean that it's impossible to hit 300k in the future. Only the marketcap and circulating can dictate the price, not the volatility. Investors are likely to invest less volatile coin because they are focus on the risk not on the profit, and that's why Bitcoin is the most invested in crypto world.
I think it is difficult to reach $300k. Sure, it is not impossible to happen in the future. I don't really know that Bitcoin volatility is decreasing, I think there is nothing wrong with Bitcoin volatility. Bitcoin has increased quite well, although its ATH is only around $73,750 but it looks quite well. It should increase above its current ATH, we just need to wait for the time of the next big pump. Next year will be the right time for the peak of bullrun season. We can assume the real ATH of Bitcoin in this cycle will be in the next year. People predict it will be $100k at least.

I support Bitcoin up to $170K in this bull market, as Bitcoin price starts to rise from the current time.  Then it will increase the price of Bitcoin until 2025, as we can see the bull run of 2021.  This is exactly what will happen in this 2024 bull run.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: bitterguy28 on October 30, 2024, 03:22:43 AM
the data is interesting to digest for the general public, by displaying historical data... however, a high percentage increase seems difficult to happen, considering that we all know that the price of Bitcoin is not as cheap as in 2016... it is possible that the price of $300k will not be achieved in the near future, many are still targeting $100k and that seems difficult to happen
you are correct history can be a good indication of what can happen in the future but obviously it will not be completely the same and we need to dial down these big claims i would not agree with the selling everything you have to buy bitcoin
calm down and keep a level head lol we do not want anyone ending up homeless because they sold their house buy bitcoin as much as you can but if you think selling everything is ok because it will give you back huge huge profit in just a matter of time then that is wrong
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Tomorrow is October 20th, and that is proof... at least currently bullish is happening... breaking through the resistance of $70k is a surprise that will make bitcoin fly even higher.
well it has already broken it and we can almost see $100k right in our line of sight it is very close and waiting was very worth it!
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: jeraldskie11 on October 30, 2024, 07:09:32 AM
Maybe Bitcoin will not reach 300k in this cycle but it is very possible to happen in the right time. Yes, Bitcoin volatility will lessen gradually but it doesn't mean that it's impossible to hit 300k in the future. Only the marketcap and circulating can dictate the price, not the volatility. Investors are likely to invest less volatile coin because they are focus on the risk not on the profit, and that's why Bitcoin is the most invested in crypto world.
I think it is difficult to reach $300k. Sure, it is not impossible to happen in the future. I don't really know that Bitcoin volatility is decreasing, I think there is nothing wrong with Bitcoin volatility. Bitcoin has increased quite well, although its ATH is only around $73,750 but it looks quite well. It should increase above its current ATH, we just need to wait for the time of the next big pump. Next year will be the right time for the peak of bullrun season. We can assume the real ATH of Bitcoin in this cycle will be in the next year. People predict it will be $100k at least.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with the volatility of Bitcoin, what I am trying to say is that when there is less volatility in Bitcoin, many people invest in it. Less volatility is equal to less risk and the higher the volatility the higher the risk. So there are investors are focus on the safety on their funds, and there investors focus on profit. If they want the low risk, invest in low volatility coins such as Bitcoin, but if they want a high reward focus on high volatility coin, example of that is memecoin or any new coin with such a low marketcap.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Blaze on November 02, 2024, 10:47:08 PM
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with the volatility of Bitcoin, what I am trying to say is that when there is less volatility in Bitcoin, many people invest in it. Less volatility is equal to less risk and the higher the volatility the higher the risk. So there are investors are focus on the safety on their funds, and there investors focus on profit. If they want the low risk, invest in low volatility coins such as Bitcoin, but if they want a high reward focus on high volatility coin, example of that is memecoin or any new coin with such a low marketcap.
Well, this is true, the volatility is quite a major determinant of investment rate in the crypto world. In low volatility, risk is minimized, and many investors feel safer investing in such a product as bitcoin. For this reason, it is perfect for anyone who wants to avoid fluctuations in their deposits, as well as secure their money.

But for investors who are willing to take the risks associated with high fluctuating coins and the coins with relatively low market capitalization higher returns are possible. The risk-return ratio is typically higher, but the profits when the correct decisions regarding the chirping coins or other emerging coins or memecoins are made are much higher too.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: jeraldskie11 on November 03, 2024, 06:26:49 AM
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with the volatility of Bitcoin, what I am trying to say is that when there is less volatility in Bitcoin, many people invest in it. Less volatility is equal to less risk and the higher the volatility the higher the risk. So there are investors are focus on the safety on their funds, and there investors focus on profit. If they want the low risk, invest in low volatility coins such as Bitcoin, but if they want a high reward focus on high volatility coin, example of that is memecoin or any new coin with such a low marketcap.
Well, this is true, the volatility is quite a major determinant of investment rate in the crypto world. In low volatility, risk is minimized, and many investors feel safer investing in such a product as bitcoin. For this reason, it is perfect for anyone who wants to avoid fluctuations in their deposits, as well as secure their money.

But for investors who are willing to take the risks associated with high fluctuating coins and the coins with relatively low market capitalization higher returns are possible. The risk-return ratio is typically higher, but the profits when the correct decisions regarding the chirping coins or other emerging coins or memecoins are made are much higher too.
If you have the right knowledge, already have a criteria for choosing a right memecoin to invest then you can go. Having criteria is very important in investing in a very volatile coin such as memecoins because anytime your investment can be worth nothing. That's why you must equipped with it because in return, you will get more than 10x of your capital in small period of time if your criteria is good.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: milewilda on November 03, 2024, 09:27:31 AM
Maybe Bitcoin will not reach 300k in this cycle but it is very possible to happen in the right time. Yes, Bitcoin volatility will lessen gradually but it doesn't mean that it's impossible to hit 300k in the future. Only the marketcap and circulating can dictate the price, not the volatility. Investors are likely to invest less volatile coin because they are focus on the risk not on the profit, and that's why Bitcoin is the most invested in crypto world.
I think it is difficult to reach $300k. Sure, it is not impossible to happen in the future. I don't really know that Bitcoin volatility is decreasing, I think there is nothing wrong with Bitcoin volatility. Bitcoin has increased quite well, although its ATH is only around $73,750 but it looks quite well. It should increase above its current ATH, we just need to wait for the time of the next big pump. Next year will be the right time for the peak of bullrun season. We can assume the real ATH of Bitcoin in this cycle will be in the next year. People predict it will be $100k at least.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with the volatility of Bitcoin, what I am trying to say is that when there is less volatility in Bitcoin, many people invest in it. Less volatility is equal to less risk and the higher the volatility the higher the risk. So there are investors are focus on the safety on their funds, and there investors focus on profit. If they want the low risk, invest in low volatility coins such as Bitcoin, but if they want a high reward focus on high volatility coin, example of that is memecoin or any new coin with such a low marketcap.
People do only make out some all in investment on the moment that they've been seeing that Bitcoins price is mooning and not on the time that it is really that on reds or consolidation period on which you would really be making up those questions on mind on why the heck they are really that trying out to chase up those green candles if they could be able to do when it is really that on deep reds to make out that kind of maximizing in terms of potential profits or making up some money but of course each one of us would really be having that different decisions when it comes to this.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: jeraldskie11 on November 06, 2024, 10:19:07 AM
Maybe Bitcoin will not reach 300k in this cycle but it is very possible to happen in the right time. Yes, Bitcoin volatility will lessen gradually but it doesn't mean that it's impossible to hit 300k in the future. Only the marketcap and circulating can dictate the price, not the volatility. Investors are likely to invest less volatile coin because they are focus on the risk not on the profit, and that's why Bitcoin is the most invested in crypto world.
I think it is difficult to reach $300k. Sure, it is not impossible to happen in the future. I don't really know that Bitcoin volatility is decreasing, I think there is nothing wrong with Bitcoin volatility. Bitcoin has increased quite well, although its ATH is only around $73,750 but it looks quite well. It should increase above its current ATH, we just need to wait for the time of the next big pump. Next year will be the right time for the peak of bullrun season. We can assume the real ATH of Bitcoin in this cycle will be in the next year. People predict it will be $100k at least.
Yeah, there's nothing wrong with the volatility of Bitcoin, what I am trying to say is that when there is less volatility in Bitcoin, many people invest in it. Less volatility is equal to less risk and the higher the volatility the higher the risk. So there are investors are focus on the safety on their funds, and there investors focus on profit. If they want the low risk, invest in low volatility coins such as Bitcoin, but if they want a high reward focus on high volatility coin, example of that is memecoin or any new coin with such a low marketcap.
People do only make out some all in investment on the moment that they've been seeing that Bitcoins price is mooning and not on the time that it is really that on reds or consolidation period on which you would really be making up those questions on mind on why the heck they are really that trying out to chase up those green candles if they could be able to do when it is really that on deep reds to make out that kind of maximizing in terms of potential profits or making up some money but of course each one of us would really be having that different decisions when it comes to this.
We can't really control them. Even though it's not advisable to invest when the price are nearly on the peak, it's still their decision. Some of them really know what to do, but when time comes it's really hard for them make a decision. That's why there are many new investors influenced so much by their emotions that results into loses. Even me, I'm also a victim of that once upon a time, so I always consider asking myself if it's only because of emotion before I invest into something.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: Gurujebs on November 06, 2024, 01:10:20 PM
If you have the right knowledge, already have a criteria for choosing a right memecoin to invest then you can go. Having criteria is very important in investing in a very volatile coin such as memecoins because anytime your investment can be worth nothing. That's why you must equipped with it because in return, you will get more than 10x of your capital in small period of time if your criteria is good.

If there is a right meme coin, I'm not sure there is going to be crazy meme coins running out from pump.fun exchange. Everyone is now creating their meme coins for profits, just personak gain and nothing more. I will not advice him to do that, investing in meme coins is like throwing money away and hoping it to come back you you in many fold.

If you have enough money, instead of using it to buy any coin, buy Bitcoin and have rest of mind. Before there is going to be a bull run, Bitcoin will first make a move before any other coins will move and Bitcoin volatility is safer compare to some altcoins in the market .
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: JoyMarsha on November 12, 2024, 10:00:25 PM
If the US election hadn't happened yet, I would have thought the dude to be all wrong about his prediction of Bitcoin hitting $300k. However, since the US election has happened, I have seen the effect of it in just a few days of Trump in office. I think the dude is right in what he says about the wealth distribution of people becoming millionaires. I see that happening way more than it did in 2021 when crypto had many people becoming millionaires.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: SamReomo on November 12, 2024, 11:14:28 PM
Only time will tell, however, I do see the BTC rally going with a bigger force as time goes on, and in one moment, the rally is going to explode, bringing the price high above as we imagine it would do.
Well, surely time is the real answer whatsoever but if we even see the value of Bitcoin this week then it's sure sign that it could easily touch $100k and cross it without much trouble. I'm already making my mind to sell my holdings when Bitcoin crosses $130k this bull run or I might sell some of my holdings when it reaches $105k.
Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: UNIVERSE on November 13, 2024, 11:56:29 PM
I support Bitcoin up to $170K in this bull market, as Bitcoin price starts to rise from the current time.  Then it will increase the price of Bitcoin until 2025, as we can see the bull run of 2021.  This is exactly what will happen in this 2024 bull run.
It is a quite high price for Bitcoin. I'm not sure if Bitcoin can cross $150k. Although 2025 is probably the time for the peak of Bitcoin price, we have no chance to know the maximum price of Bitcoin. The price can keep increasing but it also may stop if there is bad news in the future.

I think the current bullrun is a bit different with the previous bullrun in 2020-2021. So, I think we can't expect the same pattern. I assume we may see a different pattern on Bitcoin price growth.

Title: Re: Bitcoin will hit $300k🔥
Post by: libert19 on November 14, 2024, 08:00:33 AM
Nah, $300K looks steep, if he predicts half of it, I would agree with him. Same with ETH, 20K too much, somewhere around 7k, sure.

It's not of big deal to predict prices, if you have been market for long enough, you intuitively get vague idea where prices will go.