Altcoins Talks - Cryptocurrency Forum
Learning & News => For Beginners => Basic questions about this forum => Topic started by: Themepen on October 20, 2024, 12:06:54 PM
-
I was scrolling and looking in to the different boards and I found this. Look at this picture.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/10/20/8qzS8.jpeg)
Mostly when I post so I need almost 10 minutes gap in my first post to second post. I firstly search a topic and read the post and then I write the post and it takes time.
But in above case a member has made 4 posts in 6 minutes.
Is this possible?
Or it is any kind of spamming?
Or he/s is using AI?
I think a human can't do this. Is this?
-
The account is obviously post bursting, considering it as a spam is subjective, considering those posts as AI written without proof is just assuming.
As i checked the posts, it can't be written in barely 2 minutes. I guess the guy wrote those text ahead of time, but didn't post it yet until the guy got online again to make his posts.
But this are just my assumptions, as i do it too but the difference is the time interval as i won't do it especially for long posts as he did (2-3 sentences).
-
Previously he wrote 4 posts in 4 minutes:
Today at 03:47:20
Today at 03:48:35
Today at 03:45:26
Today at 03:43:20
There is no way a normal user would be able to do that, it takes way to much time to even open a topic, read the post to which you're replying to and then type all that stuff, so probably he has a list of topics, opens multiple tabs, copy pastes the already made answers and then posts.
As for now assembled in what at first might seem as a cumbersome, cliquish ecosystem such as it as user we can also do our part and keep supporting elements that make Bitcoin as a medium of exchange easier to integrate into the framework of our everyday life.
This screams translation malfunction!
-
A while ago there was a user on the forum (I haven't seen him in a while and I don't remember his username) who "saved" posts for several days and then post them to have more free time later, the funny thing is that he liked to post, because at that time there were no signature campaigns like there are now. I ran some of that user's posts through several AI detectors and the results were negative, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was something similar to what I said above.
-
A while ago there was a user on the forum (I haven't seen him in a while and I don't remember his username) who "saved" posts for several days and then post them to have more free time later, the funny thing is that he liked to post, because at that time there were no signature campaigns like there are now. I ran some of that user's posts through several AI detectors and the results were negative, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was something similar to what I said above.
Yes that can be the reason or even I think he can make some changes in the AI post which make that post totally human made.
By the way he always doing this one time or two times can be tolerated but continuously doing this is not a good thing I think so. Isn't it?
-
Yes that can be the reason or even I think he can make some changes in the AI post which make that post totally human made.
It is possible, some say that there are tools that somehow "humanize" AI-generated content, but even minor manual changes in such generated text can confuse AI detectors and show that the text was written by a human.
By the way he always doing this one time or two times can be tolerated but continuously doing this is not a good thing I think so. Isn't it?
I do not think that this is a natural way of using the forum, in any case, for me personally, it is not something that I consider positive. I always start from the assumption that we are not all the same and that we do not live in the same conditions, so if someone does not have access to a computer and the internet every day, I can understand that they write more posts in one day than others, especially if they participate in sig campaigns.
In any case, the members should be warned and given a chance to explain why they are doing it and the possibility to try to change it.
-
Technically, 25 seconds gap in between posts is there as restriction to avoid posts bursting of bots. So yeas it's possible to post with a minute or two difference but you can reports those who are practicing such kind of posting activities often can be reported here : Report Spammers (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=62493.0).
Also, you can use the Karma system to punish those users.
It can be created using AI tools and if you can prove that the user is using then the badge will be issued for the user.
-
~snip~
By the way he always doing this one time or two times can be tolerated but continuously doing this is not a good thing I think so. Isn't it?
Taking into account the rules in their global form it is not tolerated, that is why I will give the user a warning to change their behavior when posting, I hope it helps to get their attention. If that doesn't work I will take other measures.
-
It is possible if all the replies were prepared in advance and he posted them or made a slight modification to them, in this case reviewing their quality will determine whether will get [- Karma] or not. I remember one of the members was posting heavily to get an active badge
-
It is possible if all the replies were prepared in advance and he posted them or made a slight modification to them, in this case reviewing their quality will determine whether will get [- Karma] or not. I remember one of the members was posting heavily to get an active badge
In my point of view if already prepared so it will not take 6 minutes I think only 2 minutes are enough for 4 posts I think so. I think he is using another way to write means may be AI with little change.
By the way this is a good idea to give him/her a negative karma and this will be the punishment for him or her. If he/s still continue this so he/s should be banned permanently.
-
I was checking some of the posts from member 36B and I am sure he is using some kind of AI text generation for his posts.
Writing many posts in short amount of time is indicator of a spammer, and I would warn this member if I was a moderator.
If things don't improve after that, than next step could be a strike.
-
I was checking some of the posts from member 36B and I am sure he is using some kind of AI text generation for his posts.
Writing many posts in short amount of time is indicator of a spammer, and I would warn this member if I was a moderator.
If things don't improve after that, than next step could be a strike.
I don't doubt what you say, and possibly you are right since I suspect the same thing. But I think the user has realized (although today, for example, I haven't checked his posts and I don't know if he has new ones or not) that what he was doing wouldn't last too long. In any case and as I always say, the decision is up to the user, since the rules are there to be followed even if there is some flexibility.
-
I was scrolling and looking in to the different boards and I found this. Look at this picture.
(https://talkimg.com/images/2024/10/20/8qzS8.jpeg)
Mostly when I post so I need almost 10 minutes gap in my first post to second post. I firstly search a topic and read the post and then I write the post and it takes time.
But in above case a member has made 4 posts in 6 minutes.
Is this possible?
Or it is any kind of spamming?
Or he/s is using AI?
I think a human can't do this. Is this?
Making post like this could actually be termed spamming, one does not have to use the AI bot to make post before it can have a close range intervals like this, but i believe that for someone to search for a topic or thread to post, read through and digest, it requires a little more time than just a 2 minutes intervals, this is not being fast on typing keyboards, but doing the needful in making a quality post.
-
Is this possible?
Or it is any kind of spamming?
Or he/s is using AI?
I think a human can't do this. Is this?
He's definitely posting a bust. You don't have to be a robot to post this fast. If you only do small posts, you can complete the post in a two minute gap. However, no informative post can be made. Just keep spamming.
Another method to post quickly is to select a topic in advance and write a post in a note somewhere. In that case, it is possible to do this quickly only by copying and pasting the posts from there.
Or you can also quickly create a post via voice to text. But doubt how informative post you can post at such speed here. Because reading a topic or reading someone's post to quote someone, then there must be a gap of at least 5 minutes to reply to him. But the timing of his post seems like he had already made the post and took notes. and he copied and pasted them after 2 minutes
-
That's post bursting but not all that quick posters are spamming. It depends on the user if they're replying to appropriate threads and replies. But in that case, it seems that he's generating AI posts then obviously, that's spamming. That's possible but the admin and the mods can take action if those posts are reported.
-
The account is obviously post bursting, considering it as a spam is subjective, considering those posts as AI written without proof is just assuming.
As i checked the posts, it can't be written in barely 2 minutes. I guess the guy wrote those text ahead of time, but didn't post it yet until the guy got online again to make his posts.
But this are just my assumptions, as i do it too but the difference is the time interval as i won't do it especially for long posts as he did (2-3 sentences).
Plus 1 for you. And add it to what you have said, if someone is good in gambling then it is possible for him to Post like that because the lines are just few and he knows what he is written so it is not AI text. But is it is post bursting. And since he is using his head if we call his attention here and tell him to give the time frame to avoid post bursting then he will do it. And since the user name is not display here, most of us don't know the particular user the Op is referring to.
It is also known as spamming.
-
I don’t see anything wrong in that though. The user must have written and saved those post earlier before the time he posted them on the forum. It will even be more believing if the posts he’s replying to were not recently posted at the time he was making reply to those posts. It will only mean that he has saved them earlier and just posting them now. If they are quality posts and no AI detected whatsoever in the posts, it’s fine to me and should not be a cause of alarm.
-
Yes it's actually possible, however you have to consider a couple of things. Firstly it depends on the kind of topics he made replies on that is if they were direct and summarised questions or it was a load of explanations that are laid out. The more direct the answer and question is the faster you can read through the whole text and get a fitting answer to the post or question.
Like I always say , some people actually stick to explaining while others just summarise their whole explanation to something short and direct. What actually Matters the most is the quality of the post.
-
There is nothing new again on this planet earth because by the time you would have been checking for errors from people, then you begin to discover that you're just yet to began, but as for this case, its not too perfect for one to make a post on close intervals, i cant expect someone in a signature campaign to be behaving on this manner and same way if we want our content to be genuine, we may have to give a rethink on some instance just for its perfection, no matter how fast.
-
That's post bursting but not all that quick posters are spamming. It depends on the user if they're replying to appropriate threads and replies. But in that case, it seems that he's generating AI posts then obviously, that's spamming. That's possible but the admin and the mods can take action if those posts are reported.
kind of don’t get the purpose of this is it to quickly increase the posts count?
i mean how many posts in a day are you aiming for if you have to do this and i don’t even think this actually results in positive karmas and/or productive discussions so there’s really nothing that post bursting is contributing to the forum i do hope that this is discouraged and there would be a way to prohibit this
-
I don't want to judge someone based on their posting gap. But I want to see their post quality. If there is no cheating like auto-translating, copy-pasting, or AI-generated content, then it is okay. I see there is an argument that probably the guy wrote those posts before and now he is just posting them. But what could be the reason for posting them later and not when they wrote it?
The possible reason could be, That they are in some signature campaign and reached today's posting quota limit, for example, they should not write more than six, or seven posts a day because it will be considered post bursting. They may save the texts to post them later. But if they are not in any signature campaign, then why are they posting like this? Interesting.
-
The account is obviously post bursting, considering it as a spam is subjective, considering those posts as AI written without proof is just assuming.
Agree. We need a proof when we assume it as AI post. If we claim it as a spam, it can be quite subjective. If it is a light topic, we may spend below 5 minutes to make a post. But to make a post in 2 minute, it seems almost impossible to do (except we only make one-liner post).
As i checked the posts, it can't be written in barely 2 minutes. I guess the guy wrote those text ahead of time, but didn't post it yet until the guy got online again to make his posts.
Yes, it is impossible to make a long post in 2 minutes. It is quite logic that he has made the post before but he didn't post it directly. However, it is always not recommended to keep the posts and suddenly posts them later. Why don't we post it immediately after we finish it, right?
-
This is not the first time such case has been reported. The guy is not a robot but he did a pre type post. Probably he wrote the Post and they are many so he typed them and post them one after the other. If is an AI posts then the contents must have the same writing with the posts here. But it is not.
-
I was scrolling and looking in to the different boards and I found this. Look at this picture.
Mostly when I post so I need almost 10 minutes gap in my first post to second post. I firstly search a topic and read the post and then I write the post and it takes time.
But in above case a member has made 4 posts in 6 minutes.
Is this possible?
Or it is any kind of spamming?
Or he/s is using AI?
I think a human can't do this. Is this?
I can do this and I am sure you believe me as a human right! haha. Making 4 posts in 6 minutes is not impossible although it might come to tag as spamming as why would be someone making 4 posts in 6 minutes but the only way to do that is I write 4 posts and did not posted them and open the tabs and after writing 4 posts I hit post button for all of them.
If I am not wrong there is a timer of one minute between two posts so in one minute you can make only one post and in another minute another post so to publish 4 posts I have need 4 minutes. I am not sure about the timer but AFAIK it's set at 1 minute.
-
This life remains under probability as long as we do not have any fact for the establishment of a truth in doing something, some can be as fast and talented in making typing, this is what we don't have to argue about, while some can make use of tools in making their posts and this will be done more faster than when using our hands, but if we can establish the fact on either of the two, then we are free to make report on such where necessary.
-
---
But in above case a member has made 4 posts in 6 minutes.
Is this possible?
Or it is any kind of spamming?
Or he/s is using AI?
I think a human can't do this. Is this?
There's a possibility that he made his post continuously, but he just clicked the "POST" button with a short interval.
Is this possible? As we saw it, it is possible. Is it spamming? It depends on the content of the post since spam is subjective. Is he using AI? Possible and we have many users here that can check on it. ;). The most plausible theory that I think happens is that he already put the contents of the post in advance and then just clicked the Post button on a short interval.
Like you OP, I also have a 10-15 and sometimes 20-minute interval on my posts. I would consider this burst-posting though, but I doubt if there's any consequences on post-bursting here. Is there?
-
It is possible, some say that there are tools that somehow "humanize" AI-generated content, but even minor manual changes in such generated text can confuse AI detectors and show that the text was written by a human.
Yep, some people can also use AI to change it to look like human-made with certain commands, or usually the tools that are often used are rewriters or article spinners.. as far as I know, the language of sentences produced by AI is still stiff and too perfect, especially for newbies...
While humans have unique thoughts that make posts imperfect, even though imperfection is more appreciated than automation from AI...
In any case, the members should be warned and given a chance to explain why they are doing it and the possibility to try to change it.
This is the fairest... because we really don't know what the real conditions are, so the opportunity to put forward arguments for users who are detected to be abusing, is a fair thing... I like this statement...
-
This is possible for some reasons, cause it takes time for someone to read through a post, and then start typing his response for it to be constructive and reasonable for fellow users to read.
I do this in other forums where I open multiple threads and type in my response, copy it down in a saved document for the right time I wish to make the post. I use this methods mostly when I have a very occupied day's activity outside the internet, so as to meet up my daily task in the forum.
Though, one thing I do, is at the point of posting, I still read through, so as to do some corrections, either remove or reconstruct some sentences, which takes a little more time for the entire post to be made.
-
This is possible for some reasons, cause it takes time for someone to read through a post, and then start typing his response for it to be constructive and reasonable for fellow users to read.
I do this in other forums where I open multiple threads and type in my response, copy it down in a saved document for the right time I wish to make the post. I use this methods mostly when I have a very occupied day's activity outside the internet, so as to meet up my daily task in the forum.
Though, one thing I do, is at the point of posting, I still read through, so as to do some corrections, either remove or reconstruct some sentences, which takes a little more time for the entire post to be made.
A while ago there was a user on the forum (I haven't seen him in a while and I don't remember his username) who "saved" posts for several days and then post them to have more free time later, the funny thing is that he liked to post, because at that time there were no signature campaigns like there are now. I ran some of that user's posts through several AI detectors and the results were negative, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was something similar to what I said above.
This user (I still don't remember his username) did the same thing as you. That is not a problem nor does it violate any forum rules.
User 36B's problem is not the number of posts, it is the time (very little) that passes between one post and another, that is post bursting (we could also call it spam) and it goes against the rules of the forum and also against the rules of signature campaigns.
If 36B's posts had a normal time frame and the posts were also normal, he wouldn't have had any problems.
-
People have their different ways of proving right even when they know that they are wrong, what is not worth doing is better not to be considered at all, we cant be posting the way we want when there is a required way or pattern expected from us to use while making our posts, we cant also be too smart on doing things, thinking others are not seeing us to have known them all to be wrong.