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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: examplens on October 23, 2024, 11:31:25 PM
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The UK has announced it is giving up sovereignty of a remote but strategically important cluster of islands in the Indian Ocean after more than half a century.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98ynejg4l5o
Why is this important?
A very popular .io TLD, especially in the tech and gaming sphere, many crypto projects are happy to use it. Now that domain Is a country code top-level domain (ccTLD) related to a nation. Well, the Chagos Islands – which Britain has called the British Indian Ocean Territory – have their own ISO country code: IO.
In particular, the International Standard for Organization (ISO) will remove the country code “IO” from its specification. The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA), which creates and delegates top-level domains, uses this specification to determine which top-level country domains should exist. Once IO is removed, the IANA will refuse to allow any new registrations with a .io domain.
It usually takes five years for a government domain to expire after a withdrawal decision, administrators can request an extension of up to five years, so a total of .io domains can remain for ten years.
sources:
https://every.to/p/the-disappearance-of-an-internet-domain
https://www.iana.org/help/cctld-retirement
So, what do you think, will this cause confusion with domains? Many large services use the .io domain, and some guess that there are over 1.8 million registered .io domains.
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So, what do you think, will this cause confusion with domains? Many large services use the .io domain, and some guess that there are over 1.8 million registered .io domains.
yes definitely this will cause confusion i mean people can still search and use existing websites with io domains in the grace period after the removal of the domain but these websites would need to find new alternatives to use which will definitely impact search engine rankings and their branding
not to mention there could be an increase of fake links spreading around since there is so much confusion about the official websites i do hope it becomes a smooth transition but i don’t think so
it will be chaotic for sure
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I believe if a project or website is big enough and gets affected by this they'll respond quickly with announcements or something similar. Even some random discord servers that I joined in the past do the same thing whenever they move to a new domain. While not everyone is necessarily on Discord, pretty sure most projects or platforms have social media accounts for things like this.
Not sure how long it will take so people don't associate .io with things other than the Chagos Islands websites though. CMIIW.
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Indian Ocean is owned by UK?
Doesn't make sense to me but ok.
So many projects in crypto using that .io extension. What can they do to prevent from disappearing? I'm sure everything is negotiable when it comes to making money. They can pay or simply fresh start and just find another suitable domain and extension.
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Indian Ocean is owned by UK? Doesn't make sense to me but ok. I'm sure everything is negotiable when it comes to making money. They can pay or simply fresh start and just find another suitable domain and extension.
Don't be surprised with that fact and it is all because Britain used to be called an empire where sun never set...it got still some places or small nations right now under its wings in far-flung locations. Now, am sure there can be solutions that will be presented with this problem and soon we can learn on what are those. otherwise those using .io should start to find an alternative which can suit them best. We have to remember that when there can be big money involved, good solutions would sprout naturally like mushrooms.
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10 years ago the internet was not in its current form and I believe that in 10 years everything will change, all the things that we consider wealth will have changed and therefore .io links will not receive the same attention after these years have passed.
Indian Ocean is owned by UK?
Doesn't make sense to me but ok.
There are about 14 more territories you will find more details about them ----> https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5fdca611e90e07452a1c44de/UKOTs_Information_Paper.pdf
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Indian Ocean is owned by UK?
Doesn't make sense to me but ok.
There are about 14 more territories you will find more details about them ----> https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5fdca611e90e07452a1c44de/UKOTs_Information_Paper.pdf
The heritage of the British Empire.. ;D
On the side note, I hope that this domain mess will be resolved eventually.
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On the side note, I hope that this domain mess will be resolved eventually.
I believe the confusion mess hasn't happened yet, and there is enough time for projects to move away from the io domain. There should be enough time for people to notice and see announcements from the websites they used to follow if the developer realizes their responsibility. Trying to keep the domain is probably not worth the cost since SEO will likely reflect this change sooner or later. CMIIW.
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In particular, the International Standard for Organization (ISO) will remove the country code “IO” from its specification. The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA), which creates and delegates top-level domains, uses this specification to determine which top-level country domains should exist. Once IO is removed, the IANA will refuse to allow any new registrations with a .io domain.
It usually takes five years for a government domain to expire after a withdrawal decision, administrators can request an extension of up to five years, so a total of .io domains can remain for ten years.
So, what do you think, will this cause confusion with domains? Many large services use the .io domain, and some guess that there are over 1.8 million registered .io domains.
If it is really going to be removed, there is no other way but migration to a brand new domain... and that might be done by domain owners before their .io domains are completely inaccessible... such as redirects or official information might help their traffic stay on the correct and latest domains... at least it is better than having to close their services because they can no longer use their .io domains in the future...
Preparations could probably be made 2 or 3 months in advance, such as including a new link on their homepage, or simply redirecting to the new domain while announcing the change...
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On the side note, I hope that this domain mess will be resolved eventually.
I believe the confusion mess hasn't happened yet, and there is enough time for projects to move away from the io domain. There should be enough time for people to notice and see announcements from the websites they used to follow if the developer realizes their responsibility. Trying to keep the domain is probably not worth the cost since SEO will likely reflect this change sooner or later. CMIIW.
It might happen in the future, so for sure who have been using the *.io domain, for sure they will be affected because they will have to move and migrate everything.
But I guess preparation is the key here for big and small companies, but with the advancement of technology? It could be very seamless migration and it might take as little as a week to move and test everything is working as it was used to be.
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But I guess preparation is the key here for big and small companies, but with the advancement of technology? It could be very seamless migration and it might take as little as a week to move and test everything is working as it was used to be.
From my understanding buying new domain names and registering a new one with a migration if required shouldn't be that difficult to begin with. I guess it will take a while to update the name resolution service if 1 million domains are moved at the same time. I guess it depends on the hosting provider that the developer chooses. But yeah, as long as they are competent it shouldn't take that long to migrate the domain. Granted one website that I regularly used has been migrating for months now because their back-end guys are terrible at their job. CMIIW.
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Preparations could probably be made 2 or 3 months in advance, such as including a new link on their homepage, or simply redirecting to the new domain while announcing the change...
The real problem is getting a popular TLD with the name of your company attached to it, The.io domain become popular because some companies chosen domain is not yet available so they settled for an alternative one, which is.io, and some tech companies associate their company with.io now because it is synonymous with input/output.
One thing that I see on this is abuse. Those who are into domain appraisal and domain flipping are going to buy domain name on other extension earlier in order to invite these companies to bid for the name of their domain on other extension.
Domain owners should hurry to acquire the name of the company on another extension before these domain flippers beat them.
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On the side note, I hope that this domain mess will be resolved eventually.
I believe the confusion mess hasn't happened yet, and there is enough time for projects to move away from the io domain. There should be enough time for people to notice and see announcements from the websites they used to follow if the developer realizes their responsibility. Trying to keep the domain is probably not worth the cost since SEO will likely reflect this change sooner or later. CMIIW.
It might happen in the future, so for sure who have been using the *.io domain, for sure they will be affected because they will have to move and migrate everything.
But I guess preparation is the key here for big and small companies, but with the advancement of technology? It could be very seamless migration and it might take as little as a week to move and test everything is working as it was used to be.
I hope for it to be this way.
Sometimes, dire situations unpack lots of stuff that wasn't prepared in case of urgencies ;D
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Indian Ocean is owned by UK?
Doesn't make sense to me but ok.
There are about 14 more territories you will find more details about them ----> https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5fdca611e90e07452a1c44de/UKOTs_Information_Paper.pdf
The heritage of the British Empire.. ;D
On the side note, I hope that this domain mess will be resolved eventually.
And we thought they already plunged, they are still up trying to dominate some other countries while they are also subdued by a bigger empire. Big fish eaten by bigger fish.
Well they still hold on to the dot com bubble when a person as rich as Elon can buy a one letter domain x.com.
Hope those companies using .io can afford a premium domain.
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Don't be surprised with that fact and it is all because Britain used to be called an empire where sun never set...it got still some places or small nations right now under its wings in far-flung locations. Now, am sure there can be solutions that will be presented with this problem and soon we can learn on what are those. otherwise those using .io should start to find an alternative which can suit them best. We have to remember that when there can be big money involved, good solutions would sprout naturally like mushrooms.
If this becomes the international standard, we will be forced to abandon the .io TLD soon. I don't own any .io websites, so I don't see any problem, but I think some others will start looking for opportunities from this change.
A crypto project using a .io domain will need to buy a new domain, and they have a few options like .com, .net, .info. A domain speculator will try to own them and sell them at a very high price in the future. For example, Gate.io will soon have to be replaced, and someone will try to register Gate.com, Gate.net, Gate.info to sell them back to Gate at hundreds of times the price.
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There are numerous site domains ending with .io it will create a problem for everyone but this won't be a big problem in my opinion because the providers can simply move the location to another country or they can provide a grace period to the owners of these sites to book another domain and exchange it with the previous one.
Anyway even if they solve the problem by any means and allow owners to change the TLD then the customers will face a lot of problems too they can't be sure which site is real and which is fake. With time and with proper announcements these confusions can be managed.
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There are numerous site domains ending with .io it will create a problem for everyone but this won't be a big problem in my opinion because the providers can simply move the location to another country or they can provide a grace period to the owners of these sites to book another domain and exchange it with the previous one.
It's not about providers and their location.
btw. for example, what do you suggest for CEX.io? Which domain to move to?
They will probably have to do a complete rebranding.
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I think this change will cause a lot of problems and will create some chaos and scammers may take advantage of this to spread phishing sites especially for large exchanges and services that have the .io domain.
For example, there are exchanges Cex.io, Gate.io If a scammer creates sites similar to these exchanges and claims that the domain has been changed and users have to log in, he will steal their data to access their real accounts in these exchanges and may be able to hack them.
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I think this change will cause a lot of problems and will create some chaos and scammers may take advantage of this to spread phishing sites especially for large exchanges and services that have the .io domain.
For example, there are exchanges Cex.io, Gate.io If a scammer creates sites similar to these exchanges and claims that the domain has been changed and users have to log in, he will steal their data to access their real accounts in these exchanges and may be able to hack them.
Well, Any Change can lead to many problems, including those that can be abused or used by irresponsible participants. These include impersonation of large exchanges by con artists accompanied by the use of.io domains where relevant. For instance, those exchanges mentioned above which have not yet got .com domain, in which the fake site tells users their domain has been changed and mentioned to log in. If users are fooled into it and they key in their login details, the criminals are able to gain access to their real accounts on the exchange, which opens them up to data theft or account hacking.
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One thing that I see on this is abuse. Those who are into domain appraisal and domain flipping are going to buy domain name on other extension earlier in order to invite these companies to bid for the name of their domain on other extension.
Domain owners should hurry to acquire the name of the company on another extension before these domain flippers beat them.
Those domain flippers have limited opportunity to make profit though. Big company could sue them using reason such as trademark infringement or cybersquatting if they ask for ridiculous high price. Although smaller company is forced to either pay high price from domain flippers or buying less attractive domain at normal price.
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Indian Ocean is owned by UK?
Doesn't make sense to me but ok.
So many projects in crypto using that .io extension. What can they do to prevent from disappearing? I'm sure everything is negotiable when it comes to making money. They can pay or simply fresh start and just find another suitable domain and extension.
Lol.
Well firstly,the indian ocean being owned by the uk isnt really situated at india itself,i guess thats just a name given.
Also,i'm aware that alot of projects in crypto uses i.o extension although i'm not really sure if .io might dissapear.
You said something about a form of negotiation using money in order to prevent it from dissapearing..well,are you aware that it is partly owned by the government indirectly,not fully a private entity? I'm not sure the government particularly the uk government would want to accept any form of financial aid in order yo bycott all this implementations.
I guess this is something to think about.
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It's not about providers and their location.
btw. for example, what do you suggest for CEX.io? Which domain to move to?
They will probably have to do a complete rebranding.
Its not necessary for them to do a rebranding of themselves and to be honest I don't know much about domains but I learned first then replied. CEX is having an airdrop from a long time which is on its seasons 2 right now and the results of the campaigns are yet to given and the reward too.
Why you mainly asked about this exchange there are many sites with the same TLD why only this.
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Its not necessary for them to do a rebranding of themselves and to be honest I don't know much about domains but I learned first then replied. CEX is having an airdrop from a long time which is on its seasons 2 right now and the results of the campaigns are yet to given and the reward too.
Why you mainly asked about this exchange there are many sites with the same TLD why only this.
You should research before making such comments.
cex.io is just one example
btw, cex.io is one of the oldest exchanges, visit https://cex.io
It's a company under this name.
There is no airdrop or any other shitcoin promo method
Yes, they will have a problem protecting their brand name, since the .io extension is an essential part of their brand name... Unlike microsoft.io for which .io is not a decisive factor
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You should research before making such comments.
cex.io is just one example
btw, cex.io is one of the oldest exchanges, visit https://cex.io
It's a company under this name.
There is no airdrop or any other shitcoin promo method
Yes, they will have a problem protecting their brand name, since the .io extension is an essential part of their brand name... Unlike microsoft.io for which .io is not a decisive factor
I know what cex.io is and that its a centralized exchange although don't know much about its history but they do have a airdrop ongoing from long time on telegram as bot. They are now at season two and the airdrop is confirmed by them as well you can check in their telegram or on their any social media. As far as I know CEX.IO don't have a native token right?
.io TLDs matter because the big difference between .io and .com and any other tld is .io are expensive am I right.
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I can already imagine emails flying out to millions of pawned addresses containing phishing links. The email would appear like those users need to update something and they need to click something and put confidential information.
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I can already imagine emails flying out to millions of pawned addresses containing phishing links. The email would appear like those users need to update something and they need to click something and put confidential information.
Scammers and hackers are fully aware of the migration that's going to happen on cryptocurrency-related projects that are on .io not only exchanges that include casinos. investment platform.
These platforms should make these aware to their users this early to avoid confusion and to educate them why they are migrating, or they will get the blame for these hacks. Not all users are aware of the situation.
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I am just now hearing about this.
A crypto project using a .io domain will need to buy a new domain, and they have a few options like .com, .net, .info. A domain speculator will try to own them and sell them at a very high price in the future. For example, Gate.io will soon have to be replaced, and someone will try to register Gate.com, Gate.net, Gate.info to sell them back to Gate at hundreds of times the price.
Not really. See this paragraph for why:
The case for .io domains staying:
There’s also a possibility that Mauritius will maintain the domain. Many countries recognize the economic value of ccTLDs. For example, the domain .ai (Anguilla) generates significant revenue due to its association with artificial intelligence. In 2023, .ai domain registrations generated approximately $32 million USD – more than 20 percent of the government's total revenue for the year.
Similarly, Mauritius may choose to retain .io due to its popularity and financial value in the tech world.
A small nation will almost certainly choose to retain the fees associated with .io domain registrations because that tends to make up a lot of their GDP.
I don't think the IANA will just cancel them out like that, given the severity of the situation. It would be like declaring IPv4 addresses as obsolete It would be very expensive for sites to move to a new domain once their registration period is up.
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A small nation will almost certainly choose to retain the fees associated with .io domain registrations because that tends to make up a lot of their GDP.
I don't think the IANA will just cancel them out like that, given the severity of the situation. It would be like declaring IPv4 addresses as obsolete It would be very expensive for sites to move to a new domain once their registration period is up.
Logically, it will be like that because, for a small country, it is extra income without excessive investments. A similar case is with Montenegro and their national .me domain. They were just lucky that their national domain had some meaning in English.
Otherwise, as was said earlier in this topic, it could cause certain problems with online services that are recognizable only with the .io domain.