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reported that a 14 years old boy has killed himself because of an ai technology where it creates a character and actively interacts with you this ai character took form as daenerys from game of thrones if you guys know this series you will know that daenerys died at the end
they say the character would chat with the boy and engage in romantic and sexual interactions which eventually made the boy fall for the character and wanting to be with her which is why probably he thought killing himself would mean they would be together what is worse is that the character and the boy had talked about him committing suicide and the character never prevented or discouraged it
whose fault do you think this should lie on? the parents, the kid, or the ai company?
read more here: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/technology/characterai-lawsuit-teen-suicide.html
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reported that a 14 years old boy has killed himself because of an ai technology where it creates a character and actively interacts with you this ai character took form as daenerys from game of thrones if you guys know this series you will know that daenerys died at the end
they say the character would chat with the boy and engage in romantic and sexual interactions which eventually made the boy fall for the character and wanting to be with her which is why probably he thought killing himself would mean they would be together what is worse is that the character and the boy had talked about him committing suicide and the character never prevented or discouraged it
whose fault do you think this should lie on? the parents, the kid, or the ai company?
read more here: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/technology/characterai-lawsuit-teen-suicide.html
Is this even for real? I've only heard about such things happening in movies but I'm actually shocked to see that someone actually fell in love with a chat both. What I actually don't understand is how he got convinced that the chat bot was real... I don't know much to say but ai to didn't kill this young man. He might have lost it somewhere. I wonder what he was thinking to have taught the chat with the ai was real.
Yes we know that the AI tech would be dangerous in some way to humanity but then they will actually help man in so many ways. We just have to know our limits while using them.
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The story was sad to read, and I don't blame AI, it's just a tool to use. Mental illness was cause of kid's death imo.
By the way, if someone want to read the article without account, you can use: https://archive.ph/
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The story was sad to read, and I don't blame AI, it's just a tool to use. Mental illness was cause of kid's death imo.
By the way, if someone want to read the article without account, you can use: https://archive.ph/
Parents should be blamed on this as they failed to know the childs mental health because it is under their watch so they are liable on this I think. There will always be parental guidance to their children and I think they need to observe the kids behaviors and stuff so that incident won't happen again.
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the parents wouldn't think the kid would do something like this since he has Asperger. its sort of an autism spectrum but kids with aspergers are smart academically but may have social skills that's why he git into talking with this AI that fills his needs.
i would really think its not the parents fault, they know their kid won't do something stupid until this Dany comes into his life. the AI seem programmed to agree with him every time.
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What sought of an AI technology is that that allows the user to have an interactive session with sensitive things like encouraging someone to kill, harm or commit suicide. I think the AI company should also be at fault for this. But firstly, I will blame the parents for not knowing what their kid is engaging in, their mental health and safety should be prioritize by the parents. I don’t blame the child at all as he may be naive and just wanting something to mingle and interact with but unfortunately it lead to his early death. I thought AI was suppose to have been designed to not encourage such, I’m so disappointed and dissatisfied with the company that invented this.
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This is going to be an interesting case. If the plaintiff wins, we'll see more regulations that restricts the content of AI like having a different data set of under 18 and 18 above. The problem is that this could also spill over to censorship or it could be controlled by some group similar to fact checkers on facebook.
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Is this even for real? I've only heard about such things happening in movies but I'm actually shocked to see that someone actually fell in love with a chat both. What I actually don't understand is how he got convinced that the chat bot was real...
i mean he was very young and not everyone has been taught media literacy and technology awareness
so it is really possible for him to “fall in love” with a character maybe he was also going through something in his real life maybe he wasn’t fitting in with his peers maybe he wasn’t doing well at school and maybe he couldn’t talk to his parents and this ai was the only thing for him so it would make sense why he got so attached
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The story was sad to read, and I don't blame AI, it's just a tool to use. Mental illness was cause of kid's death imo.
By the way, if someone want to read the article without account, you can use: https://archive.ph/
Parents should be blamed on this as they failed to know the childs mental health because it is under their watch so they are liable on this I think. There will always be parental guidance to their children and I think they need to observe the kids behaviors and stuff so that incident won't happen again.
This is from the article.
Earlier this year, after he started getting in trouble at school, his parents arranged for him to see a therapist. He went to five sessions and was given a new diagnosis of anxiety and disruptive mood dysregulation disorder.
...so parents were aware of their child's mental health. But, to be honest, if I was child's parent I still wouldn't expect such an outcome.
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This is very sad incident and we need to be careful and thoughtful when trying to understand what happened. While AI character interactions with boy might have played role we can not just blame one thing. We need to look at whole situation and think about many factors. For example were parents watching what their child was doing online? Did AI company make sure their technology was safe for kids? Did boy have help for any mental health issues? And how did social media and societal pressures affect his choices?
To prevent similar tragedies we need to talk openly about online safety and make sure AI technologies are safe and responsible and provide mental health support and encourage critical thinking and healthy online habits.
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Artificial intelligence is not a bad this it's one of the best things that has happened to humanity since the beginning of the earth, off course we can not say that there's no disadvantage on artificial intelligence but if we look critically into the benefits of what we as human stand to gain then we will really appreciate it. What we should be discussing is how we can regulate the use of artificial intelligence in the work places, home and the environment as their are some concerns about artificial intelligence being turned into weapons which is even a product of how evil the mindset of some humans are. In the case you cited in your writeup the parents of the child should be Heald responsible as the have failed in their duty as parents by exposing their under age child that is not fully developed mentally to differentiate between good and even. We should stop blaming the A.I for what happened as it's was program to work that way.
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What sought of an AI technology is that that allows the user to have an interactive session with sensitive things like encouraging someone to kill, harm or commit suicide. I think the AI company should also be at fault for this. But firstly, I will blame the parents for not knowing what their kid is engaging in, their mental health and safety should be prioritize by the parents. I don’t blame the child at all as he may be naive and just wanting something to mingle and interact with but unfortunately it lead to his early death. I thought AI was suppose to have been designed to not encourage such, I’m so disappointed and dissatisfied with the company that invented this.
I put major blame on the company for adding such features of sexuality to their chatbot, because that was what was used to manipulate the young boy feelings that made him feel it was real. Parents can sometimes monitor their children but it is not everything that they can detect, because they also have their own life and work to attend to. Children can easily be manipulated.
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Is this even for real? I've only heard about such things happening in movies but I'm actually shocked to see that someone actually fell in love with a chat both. What I actually don't understand is how he got convinced that the chat bot was real...
i mean he was very young and not everyone has been taught media literacy and technology awareness
so it is really possible for him to “fall in love” with a character maybe he was also going through something in his real life maybe he wasn’t fitting in with his peers maybe he wasn’t doing well at school and maybe he couldn’t talk to his parents and this ai was the only thing for him so it would make sense why he got so attached
It obviously would be as a result of peer pressure. This is why it is very important for parents to try as much as possible to be there for their kids. Sending them to school, you aren't aware of the things they com across everyday. Most times some kids are neglected in class amongst their peers for some reasons they best know as children. I won't blame the young man though for his Inability to differentiate an Ai from a real human. He probably found comfort taking with it and as a result fell for it..
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Wow it's a nice story. And I won't say the parents are at fault nor say the companies that produces such things. These days we call it technology or computer generation and with that parents are at sometimes feeling so reluctant when their under aged children are using phones. I had a friend she told me that in their family once a child is up to two years they would get that child a phone as a baby to watch these children animation #cartoon, but it is very wrong even though we are in the computer generation children should have age limit and even have a limited time of being with their phones.
Talking about this chatbot, I also had a chatbot on my Snapchat account these things are very smart in interaction and can make a chat so lively but they would have to notify you that every chat you get from the AL is not real, so it can only take a mature mind to understand things better, I believe that guy lost it because he was still too young to deal with lovely emotions.
And one thing we ought to understand is this when a person is too committed to something giving too much attention even if it's a tree there is a spirit that later possesses that thing. Most of us are aware of a movie titled Chucky it's an example of what I'm talking about. Did God create trees and put a spirit in it for men to worship? No, but when you get too used to something a spirit possesses it but you as a physical person won't know that everything has changed but you still dance to their tunes.
So parents try to watch your children day by day activities. Thanks.
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What sought of an AI technology is that that allows the user to have an interactive session with sensitive things like encouraging someone to kill, harm or commit suicide. I think the AI company should also be at fault for this. But firstly, I will blame the parents for not knowing what their kid is engaging in, their mental health and safety should be prioritize by the parents. I don’t blame the child at all as he may be naive and just wanting something to mingle and interact with but unfortunately it lead to his early death. I thought AI was suppose to have been designed to not encourage such, I’m so disappointed and dissatisfied with the company that invented this.
I put major blame on the company for adding such features of sexuality to their chatbot, because that was what was used to manipulate the young boy feelings that made him feel it was real. Parents can sometimes monitor their children but it is not everything that they can detect, because they also have their own life and work to attend to. Children can easily be manipulated.
That is why it is very necessary for parent to always put the priority of their children first before theirs. Maybe if they had personal moments with the children and talk things out with them, by making the children tell them their feelings also, they may have by one way or the other say something related to that. I don’t know, but this has just made me hate AI the more and it makes me want to be more sceptical when I’m trying to use one in the future if need be. This young boys life could have been saved and living a happy life if only the AI company never existed. It can be reversed, but I hope the company does what is needed in this course because they should still be blamed a lot for this.
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whose fault do you think this should lie on? the parents, the kid, or the ai company?
A 14-year-old boy should still be under the guidance of the parents; that is, as a parent or guardian, you should be aware of whatever your ward is involved in. I blame the parents for their negligence. As a parent or guardian, you should be aware of all the online activity of your child and try to keep up with them and technology so that you could give them proper advice when they consult you.
AI technology can be dangerous to a child.
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whose fault do you think this should lie on? the parents, the kid, or the ai company?
A 14-year-old boy should still be under the guidance of the parents; that is, as a parent or guardian, you should be aware of whatever your ward is involved in. I blame the parents for their negligence. As a parent or guardian, you should be aware of all the online activity of your child and try to keep up with them and technology so that you could give them proper advice when they consult you.
AI technology can be dangerous to a child.
the AI i think is friendly which the parents may likely just be confident that AI will not do harm to the kid. its just that this AI agrees all the time to the boy and cheers up the boy everything the boy wants to do something for himself.
but it just prove AI doesn't have emotions. and over time the boy really thinks Dany is his girl. who i would rather blame is the AI for always agreeing to what the boy is suggesting.
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Even if AI is very advanced and is used today, there are still underlying risks, like what happened to the 14-year-old boy. Some character AIs let people chat with a favorite character, and the AI acts like it’s that character. This can make it hard to tell what’s real and what’s not, which can be dangerous because they might feel like the character understands them in a way no one else does, leading to emotional attachment. Over time, they might start to rely on the AI as if it’s a real person. To the parents you should monitor what are the things your child are up to it might cause them harm.
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I believe that kid is somewhat problematic in terms of his upbringing because if he relies on AI to have some kind of connection with someone, then the one closest to them should be the one providing that connection. It is not the fault of AI, in my opinion, but it could be improved upon to prevent this type of thing.
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This is going to be an interesting case. If the plaintiff wins, we'll see more regulations that restricts the content of AI like having a different data set of under 18 and 18 above. The problem is that this could also spill over to censorship or it could be controlled by some group similar to fact checkers on facebook.
If you live in a right to die place the ai company is not guilty.
If you don't live in a right die place then the ai company is guilty.
Many websites restrict me because I live in New Jersey USA so the tech to detect where you live makes screening doable.
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whose fault do you think this should lie on? the parents, the kid, or the ai company?
read more here: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/23/technology/characterai-lawsuit-teen-suicide.html
I saw this on a famous Facebook page called "Project Nightfall", and this isn't the first time that somebody committed suicide because of AI... or at least AI triggered the person.
In this case, the kid is suffering from anxiety and depression and he even forgets to do the things he loved to do before he communicated with an AI. TBH, it's hard to pin point which is to blame because this must not suppose to happen in the first place. We can say that the parents are partly to blame here because they didn't took care of their child especially when he's suffering from depression. We can also say that his environment and the people around him can be blamed.
Whatever the case is, AI is only the trigger point here and yes it can be dangerous, or beneficial depending on how we will use it. In this case, it has been used in a negative way hence, the worst thing happened.
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Whatever the case is, AI is only the trigger point here and yes it can be dangerous, or beneficial depending on how we will use it. In this case, it has been used in a negative way hence, the worst thing happened.
probably the most diplomatic and civil take here
i do not like to cage in ai in one box only i do not believe that it simply good or bad because there are nuances here that out of the ai control in this case with how we use it
ai can actually be really beneficial but i think its uses right now should not be of the utmost importance why are people focusing on making ai characters when we should think of more practical features ai can do for us humans to make our lives better one thing i can think of is alexa or siri these are ai that are helpful and actually has some purpose
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Interactive AI's are not really made for kids and this if fault of the kid and the parents who failed in the supervision of the kid. To be honest these are inevitable there will be always some people do extreme things that common man will never think of doing but obviously the backstory of the kid might tell us the reason why he had connection with ai instead of actual human. And this also due to the evolution of social media which lead people to isolate themselves from human interactions. Government has to take measures about teaching things in the school and in general via all the possible ways.
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The story was sad to read, and I don't blame AI, it's just a tool to use. Mental illness was cause of kid's death imo.
Agree, we can't blame AI. It is just a technology made by human, it should be a mistake made human itself. Yes, the mentality of the person probably becomes the source of the problem. In this era, I see too many problems on people's mentality. I think it is because of the lack of learning related to morality. The parents are also too busy, they have no enough time for the kids. So the kids spend most of their times with smartphone. This is the beginning of the mental problems.
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The story was sad to read, and I don't blame AI, it's just a tool to use. Mental illness was cause of kid's death imo.
Agree, we can't blame AI. It is just a technology made by human, it should be a mistake made human itself. Yes, the mentality of the person probably becomes the source of the problem. In this era, I see too many problems on people's mentality. I think it is because of the lack of learning related to morality. The parents are also too busy, they have no enough time for the kids. So the kids spend most of their times with smartphone. This is the beginning of the mental problems.
This is just a beginning if not taken seriously by guardians. They should spend some time talking with their kids so that they will know if something really needs their immediate attention because incidents like this need to be assessed as quick as possible because it already claims lives of innocent children.
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This is just a beginning if not taken seriously by guardians. They should spend some time talking with their kids so that they will know if something really needs their immediate attention because incidents like this need to be assessed as quick as possible because it already claims lives of innocent children.
It is now become an imaginary thing for one. How does the parents not allow the kids to have friends or colleague they can mingle with. All this was because of the idleness of the child which the parent supposed to have curtailed for a very long time now. If the parents can be so non-vigilant and allow the kid to be having an interactive session with an AI, they they’ve failed and not qualified to be called a parent. These are one of the vital things every parent should know about their child, there mental health is not active and strong as yours, so when they’re faced with things like this, it’ll pose a very big threat to them and they may fall into the wrong hands or wrong decision making.
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AI can fake a disaster causing you to flee for you life when you don't have to.
Worse yet once you fled two or three times you could take your time making sure of the next warning and the disaster could be real.
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AI can fake a disaster causing you to flee for you life when you don't have to.
Worse yet once you fled two or three times you could take your time making sure of the next warning and the disaster could be real.
Yeah I agree AI can also feed false information and that is very annoying as it was not really that accurate since it only gather information on the internet whether it was new or old informations. I personally had experience on this via research and yeah proven not accurate which really needs double checking before deciding to use it.
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AI can fake a disaster causing you to flee for you life when you don't have to.
Worse yet once you fled two or three times you could take your time making sure of the next warning and the disaster could be real.
Yeah I agree AI can also feed false information and that is very annoying as it was not really that accurate since it only gather information on the internet whether it was new or old informations. I personally had experience on this via research and yeah proven not accurate which really needs double checking before deciding to use it.
If AI was launched back in the days where there are just few political conflicts, I think the AIs can give a real information to the public but today, it s seems to favour sides which is always the government.
But this kid dying due to AI encouragement is because the AI is programmed to also agree to the kid. A little tweaking means fixing how the AI will work especially to kids that has disorders.
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This is just a beginning if not taken seriously by guardians. They should spend some time talking with their kids so that they will know if something really needs their immediate attention because incidents like this need to be assessed as quick as possible because it already claims lives of innocent children.
It is now become an imaginary thing for one. How does the parents not allow the kids to have friends or colleague they can mingle with.
It's mentioned in article it was kid who started isolating himself.
All this was because of the idleness of the child which the parent supposed to have curtailed for a very long time now. If the parents can be so non-vigilant and allow the kid to be having an interactive session with an AI, they they’ve failed and not qualified to be called a parent. These are one of the vital things every parent should know about their child, there mental health is not active and strong as yours, so when they’re faced with things like this, it’ll pose a very big threat to them and they may fall into the wrong hands or wrong decision making.
I don't think it's right to make big deal out of kid using ai, suicide death was result of kid already being suicidal, ai bot only helped him open-up about his innermost feelings than being the cause of suicide.
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AI can fake a disaster causing you to flee for you life when you don't have to.
Worse yet once you fled two or three times you could take your time making sure of the next warning and the disaster could be real.
Yeah I agree AI can also feed false information and that is very annoying as it was not really that accurate since it only gather information on the internet whether it was new or old informations. I personally had experience on this via research and yeah proven not accurate which really needs double checking before deciding to use it.
Yeah searches had already begun to suck as google and other searches would use algorithms to guide you to bullshit results.
Many searches are complete bullshit.
And now ai summarizes the bullshit and makes it worse.
we will need to go back to shit like real film 🎥 and not digital film as real film is hard to fake.
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whose fault do you think this should lie on? the parents, the kid, or the ai company?
Well that character. Ai is really something else.. I decided to try the AI recently and the experience I got from it makes !e wonder what the developers had in mind before creating something like that.. though there are other use case of the ai but it's major use priority is designed to make it look sexually attractive. I don't really know how to describe it but it's just unbelievable.. for a child of 14, I can say its not his fault though as he might not be aware of what he has gotten himself into. Thank company should actually state to the public the really reason behind the creation of that ai..
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whose fault do you think this should lie on? the parents, the kid, or the ai company?
Well that character. Ai is really something else.. I decided to try the AI recently and the experience I got from it makes !e wonder what the developers had in mind before creating something like that.. though there are other use case of the ai but it's major use priority is designed to make it look sexually attractive. I don't really know how to describe it but it's just unbelievable.. for a child of 14, I can say its not his fault though as he might not be aware of what he has gotten himself into. Thank company should actually state to the public the really reason behind the creation of that ai..
A lot of people develop on the characters even though they are AI It’s wild how these AI characters go deep because the answers of the AI are almost like they have personalities of their own. I hope they make action to prevent this kind of situation again.
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I know that the parents will be regretting for being insecure, what kind of parents won't know what is going on in is child's life and the boy is just 14 years he need his parents guidance but I also blame the child for not sharing his mental health problems with his parents and seek for their opinions before taking any action, Ai is not at fault because it was designed to help and communicate with people in an informatic way, it doesn't have feelings or emotions and to be honest it has been helpful to a lots of users. I know that it also have disadvantages but we are humans and we have sence and we are also active in thinking and have the ability to make our own choices but Ai is a tool and it is control by several interconnected components.
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This is just a beginning if not taken seriously by guardians. They should spend some time talking with their kids so that they will know if something really needs their immediate attention because incidents like this need to be assessed as quick as possible because it already claims lives of innocent children.
Of course, it is the beginning. There will be more problems in the future if we have no way to deal with AI. I'm sure it won't be easy because we must prepare the mentality of our children. But it is a must, every parents must know how to deal with the AI problem. They need to spare time to control their children activity related to the use of AI. So, if there is something wrong with their attitude or habit, it should be corrected as soon as possible. I also expect that there will be no the same case happening in the future.