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Title: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: pawel7777 on October 31, 2024, 12:04:29 AM
In a little bit more than 2 weeks from now, on 15th November, a highly controversial fight will take place between Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. It's dubbed by many to be a profanation of boxing, and it's hard to disagree.
Nevertheless, it's happening, so worth having a dedicated thread to discuss.

Most experts agree that it should be an easy win for Paul, that includes his former opponents, Ben Askren and Mike Perry:
https://talksport.com/boxing/2206286/jake-paul-ben-askren-mike-perry-mike-tyson-prediction/

But still, it's Mike Tyson, a former undisputed heavyweight champion, who despite his age (58) still knows how to throw a punch. Some training footage:


The odds for Mike are currently at x3.40, so could be a good bet. All he needs to do is to successfully explode early on before he gasses out. I wouldn't be putting any serious money on that though.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: bisdak40 on October 31, 2024, 12:45:50 AM
The degradation of boxing, indeed. To me, this is a farce in the history of the sport. I can’t believe this isn’t an exhibition match; they’ve sanctioned it as a regular fight. While the odds for Mike are somewhat appealing, I wouldn’t bet on him or this fight.

Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: LogitechMouse on October 31, 2024, 02:53:05 AM
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But still, it's Mike Tyson, a former undisputed heavyweight champion, who despite his age (58) still knows how to throw a punch. Some training footage:
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The odds for Mike are currently at x3.40, so could be a good bet. All he needs to do is to successfully explode early on before he gasses out. I wouldn't be putting any serious money on that though.
I don't know if the text that highlighted bold is an insult or a metaphor. :D Either way, Tyson is still a boxer whatever happens.

Like what others said here, I will also not put my money on Tyson on this one. I always believe that in a sport like boxing, age is a big factor because that speaks everything. From stamina, endurance, speed, power, everything. This isn't the case for some boxers of course, but with this huge age gap, we will see a difference from the traits that I said. Hyping Tyson through making a video with his sparring partner being knocked down? That will not change the narrative especially if you're into boxing for quite some time.

Whatever the case is, it's a win-win for the fans, and for the boxers. Fans will get entertained while boxers will be paid. :D
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Jating on November 01, 2024, 04:11:35 AM
The degradation of boxing, indeed. To me, this is a farce in the history of the sport. I can’t believe this isn’t an exhibition match; they’ve sanctioned it as a regular fight. While the odds for Mike are somewhat appealing, I wouldn’t bet on him or this fight.

Yeah, but if you look at it, this is for me should be considered as a exhibition fight, nothing more. So for pure boxing fans like the majority of us, maybe we're not going to watch or even bet on this fight as we all know that it really doesn't make sense to have Mike at 58, fighting a young and Youtuber.

But we can't blame Mike though, after all the offer is too big to be refused by him. As for Jake, we are already in 2024, and this kind of fights should be ending as well as we are no longer in the pandemic wherein people really trying to be creative during that time that's why exhibition fights become somewhat the norm.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Baofeng on November 02, 2024, 12:04:22 AM
The degradation of boxing, indeed. To me, this is a farce in the history of the sport. I can’t believe this isn’t an exhibition match; they’ve sanctioned it as a regular fight. While the odds for Mike are somewhat appealing, I wouldn’t bet on him or this fight.

It's all for the money that's why this fight is given a green light. And even if Tyson has ulcer or medical issues, they still proceed with the fight this November.

Same here, I'm not going to bet on this fight, and as a boxing fans, I even don't want to see Mike Tyson still fighting at his age. He should just be retiring and not involved in boxing.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Agbe on November 02, 2024, 03:36:57 PM
This match is going to be mind blowing as former undisputed heavy weight champion mike Tyson comes out of retirement to do what he knows how to do best although age is not on his side and many becoming afraid of him because of the youthful nature of his who is still in the fighting, this match is trekey as it can go any side because mike Tyson is not someone people should not write off because he still have it inside of him. But on a serious note what on earth is making mike Tyson to come out of retirement and start fighting again it's money or what exactly is the problem
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: electronicash on November 02, 2024, 06:50:24 PM
This match is going to be mind blowing as former undisputed heavy weight champion mike Tyson comes out of retirement to do what he knows how to do best although age is not on his side and many becoming afraid of him because of the youthful nature of his who is still in the fighting, this match is trekey as it can go any side because mike Tyson is not someone people should not write off because he still have it inside of him. But on a serious note what on earth is making mike Tyson to come out of retirement and start fighting again it's money or what exactly is the problem

rumor was that he is getting $20M. win or lose Mike will still be earning that much. who would refuse to such amount.  no 58 year old man will be able to earn that amount in just one fight at this kind of economy.

but this is bad for Mike because most of Jake's boxing match ends up like a serious fight where he will batter his opponent like its not an exhibition match. it would be fun to see Mike win though. just a bite on Jake's ear will still a good meme.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Rruchi man on November 02, 2024, 07:38:58 PM
In a little bit more than 2 weeks from now, on 15th November, a highly controversial fight will take place between Jake Paul and Mike Tyson. It's dubbed by many to be a profanation of boxing, and it's hard to disagree.
The fight should be over already; it has been talked about for way too long, and I am sure we are all tired of hearing about it. Tyson looks very ruthless and in form from the clips on social media, but in a real scene against another fighter who is not in his team like Jake Paul, he may decide to throw the towel in faster if he feels the slightest discomfort is because he is very aware that there is still something to gain from losing. Just like I did in the last Francis Ngannou fight, I will be watching this fight for fun, not betting on it.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Zed0X on November 02, 2024, 10:19:24 PM
I'll be happy to be proven wrong in this case but he's just too old to be fighting in a competitive match. Eight rounds and with knockouts allowed, I think that's too long for a guys his age. Now, if there was a different agreement between the two (formal or just a gentleman), then that will be a different story.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: pawel7777 on November 03, 2024, 12:10:18 AM
I'll be happy to be proven wrong in this case but he's just too old to be fighting in a competitive match. Eight rounds and with knockouts allowed, I think that's too long for a guys his age.

I agree. Professional athletes retire early for good reason. You can't fool your age.
I think Mike is aware of that at least to some degree. He's prediction of the fight is that Jake will be running around the ring avoiding exchanges and trying to score points to win by decision while Mike will be getting tired as the fight goes into later rounds.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: 0t3p0t on November 03, 2024, 08:54:06 PM
Looks like more of a call of duty thing rather than just an exhibition match as we all know Mike has already retired juts like Manny Pacquiao who only fight exhibition matches I don't know if he really want something like that fight anymore but maybe they are doing it for the money.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: pawel7777 on November 03, 2024, 11:29:40 PM
Just to clear up some confusion - this fight is not an exhibition fight. It is sanctioned and will be reflected in the boxing records of both fighters.
It's going to be an official fight under non-standard rules:

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/jake-paul-vs-mike-tyson-fight-explained-why-the-two-stars-are-facing-off-and-what-the-rules-will-be/

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Is this a 'real fight' or an exhibition?
Unlike Tyson's exhibition bout with Roy Jones Jr. in 2020, this is an officially sanctioned fight that will go on the professional records of both men. The Texas Department of Licensing and Regulations approved the request to make the fight a licensed, professional bout in a move that many feel goes against good sense considering the 30-plus year age gap between the two men.

While Paul vs. Tyson will be a professional bout, it will not be contested under standard professional rules.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Baofeng on November 05, 2024, 12:55:23 PM
Just to clear up some confusion - this fight is not an exhibition fight. It is sanctioned and will be reflected in the boxing records of both fighters.
It's going to be an official fight under non-standard rules:

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/jake-paul-vs-mike-tyson-fight-explained-why-the-two-stars-are-facing-off-and-what-the-rules-will-be/

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Is this a 'real fight' or an exhibition?
Unlike Tyson's exhibition bout with Roy Jones Jr. in 2020, this is an officially sanctioned fight that will go on the professional records of both men. The Texas Department of Licensing and Regulations approved the request to make the fight a licensed, professional bout in a move that many feel goes against good sense considering the 30-plus year age gap between the two men.

While Paul vs. Tyson will be a professional bout, it will not be contested under standard professional rules.

Yeah, but still though, if you think about it, Mike a professional boxer fighting a Youtube sensation, this is just as close to a exhibition match. They just try to spin in and hype the fight.

Afterall, huge money is on the line already, so it's better to really put this as so called professional fight.

But for boxing fans, we know that it looks and smells like an exhibition fight like Conor vs Floyd and others.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: electronicash on November 05, 2024, 07:41:57 PM
Just to clear up some confusion - this fight is not an exhibition fight. It is sanctioned and will be reflected in the boxing records of both fighters.
It's going to be an official fight under non-standard rules:

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/jake-paul-vs-mike-tyson-fight-explained-why-the-two-stars-are-facing-off-and-what-the-rules-will-be/

Quote
Is this a 'real fight' or an exhibition?
Unlike Tyson's exhibition bout with Roy Jones Jr. in 2020, this is an officially sanctioned fight that will go on the professional records of both men. The Texas Department of Licensing and Regulations approved the request to make the fight a licensed, professional bout in a move that many feel goes against good sense considering the 30-plus year age gap between the two men.

While Paul vs. Tyson will be a professional bout, it will not be contested under standard professional rules.

Yeah, but still though, if you think about it, Mike a professional boxer fighting a Youtube sensation, this is just as close to a exhibition match. They just try to spin in and hype the fight.

Afterall, huge money is on the line already, so it's better to really put this as so called professional fight.

But for boxing fans, we know that it looks and smells like an exhibition fight like Conor vs Floyd and others.

that's about the size of it.  but if they say its sanctioned then it maybe it is.
the one thing to remind yourself is that Mike is a grandpa and its versus a 27 year old muscle man.  this is disregarding the weight classes and the age gap. if we can't call it a violation, i think we can consider it an abuse.  ;D

the video above where he knockdown an spar partner, that's good for the show. Mike however is breathing heavily.  Mike shouldn't try to make it a big exhibition, just laying down after a big swing will do. take the $20M and shake hands with Jake, that's it.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: pawel7777 on November 05, 2024, 11:33:05 PM
Yeah, but still though, if you think about it, Mike a professional boxer fighting a Youtube sensation, this is just as close to a exhibition match. They just try to spin in and hype the fight.

Afterall, huge money is on the line already, so it's better to really put this as so called professional fight.

But for boxing fans, we know that it looks and smells like an exhibition fight like Conor vs Floyd and others.

We like to slap levels on people and many still treat Jake Paul like a random youtube celebrity and nothing more. The truth is, he has been training boxing for a good couple of years now under the supervision of professional coaches, so he's on the level of a mediocre professional boxer. This is precisely why he will be a big favourite.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: SamReomo on November 05, 2024, 11:39:00 PM
Mike Tyson is king of the boxing ring but we all know he's not young anymore and that's why this could be a tough fight for him. Jake Paul on the other hand is also a good boxer but he's more likely to win the match because he's young and more energetic than Mike Tyson. But, we'll have to see the match to know who's going to be the real winner of the match.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: bisdak40 on November 06, 2024, 01:06:30 AM
Mike Tyson is king of the boxing ring but we all know he's not young anymore and that's why this could be a tough fight for him. Jake Paul on the other hand is also a good boxer but he's more likely to win the match because he's young and more energetic than Mike Tyson. But, we'll have to see the match to know who's going to be the real winner of the match.

According to the bookies, Jake Paul is favored to win the match against Mike Tyson, likely due to the age difference. At 59 years old, Tyson is almost a senior citizen, which is considered quite old in boxing. Although he had an impressive record in his youth, that’s in the past, and his punching power is likely not what it once was.




Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: pawel7777 on November 09, 2024, 12:59:45 AM
According to the bookies, Jake Paul is favored to win the match against Mike Tyson, likely due to the age difference. At 59 years old, Tyson is almost a senior citizen, which is considered quite old in boxing. Although he had an impressive record in his youth, that’s in the past, and his punching power is likely not what it once was.

There's a reason people retire from professional sports. The age takes its toll. Mike will still have a lot of strength, but his stamina is probably gone. Plus, he won't be half as dynamic and explosive as he used to be. He could still surprise Paul with a quick and powerful combo, but that's only if he manages to get close enough.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: bisdak40 on November 15, 2024, 10:01:13 AM
Have you seen the video of the weigh-in where Mike Tyson slapped Jake Paul?

What could have been the reason of that slapping incident, it is intentional or just part of the plan to sell the fight?
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Kemarit on November 15, 2024, 10:57:50 AM
Have you seen the video of the weigh-in where Mike Tyson slapped Jake Paul?

What could have been the reason of that slapping incident, it is intentional or just part of the plan to sell the fight?

You mean this video?

(https://img.youtube.com/vi/scNgUkVxl2E/0.jpg) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scNgUkVxl2E)

Not sure what to make about it, could be just part of their plan to sell the fight. We all know that it's their final face-off so they will have to make a lot of fuzz on it.

So it's possible that it is scripted, you seen Jake's reaction and it seems that he is ok. Although Mike really looks in shape, but I do not think that it will be enough for him to win the fight.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: bitbit97 on November 15, 2024, 12:01:51 PM
Indeed this looks like a plan to make more sales. I havent noticed in last years, that Tyson showed any kind of aggression. I also havent heard that Jake and Mike had a conflicts or heavy trashtalk before. In fact I only see respect and childish jokes from Jake, that doubtfully deserve to be slapped for. Or, Tyson could have checked Jake or gave him a taste what it would be like to get punched by him. So it might be his last chance to cancel the fight.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: LogitechMouse on November 15, 2024, 12:10:06 PM
Indeed this looks like a plan to make more sales. I havent noticed in last years, that Tyson showed any kind of aggression. I also havent heard that Jake and Mike had a conflicts or heavy trashtalk before. In fact I only see respect and childish jokes from Jake, that doubtfully deserve to be slapped for. Or, Tyson could have checked Jake or gave him a taste what it would be like to get punched by him. So it might be his last chance to cancel the fight.
What do you expect? Remember the Mayweather-McGregor fight? It's also full of trashtalks and that's what fans want. 2 fighters trashtalking with each other is what fans wanted and that makes them excited to watch the fight as well.

This, and the slapping of Tyson to Jake Paul is just their tactics in order to make more sales. Nothing surprising TBH especially coming from a boxer like Tyson. There might be no trashtalks thrown on this one, but that slap is enough to ignite the building and to create hype as well. After this fight, both will just shake hands like nothing happened. Typical exhibition fight. At the end of the day, it's all about money and sales like you said and in order to make more sales, they need to hype it even more hence, the slapping happened. :D
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: robelneo on November 15, 2024, 04:32:39 PM


This, and the slapping of Tyson to Jake Paul is just their tactics in order to make more sales. Nothing surprising TBH especially coming from a boxer like Tyson. There might be no trashtalks thrown on this one, but that slap is enough to ignite the building and to create hype as well. After this fight, both will just shake hands like nothing happened. Typical exhibition fight. At the end of the day, it's all about money and sales like you said and in order to make more sales, they need to hype it even more hence, the slapping happened. :D

It changes the perception of people but like you said it is just meant to generate interests, its different when you are slapped in public during a face-off; it seldom happens, and sometimes it hinge to getting personal and rightly so, Paul already stated in the interview, this is going to be blockbuster and many will re subscribe to Netflix I just hope they will deliver, as this fight has long been awaited to happen.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: electronicash on November 15, 2024, 10:12:45 PM


This, and the slapping of Tyson to Jake Paul is just their tactics in order to make more sales. Nothing surprising TBH especially coming from a boxer like Tyson. There might be no trashtalks thrown on this one, but that slap is enough to ignite the building and to create hype as well. After this fight, both will just shake hands like nothing happened. Typical exhibition fight. At the end of the day, it's all about money and sales like you said and in order to make more sales, they need to hype it even more hence, the slapping happened. :D

It changes the perception of people but like you said it is just meant to generate interests, its different when you are slapped in public during a face-off; it seldom happens, and sometimes it hinge to getting personal and rightly so, Paul already stated in the interview, this is going to be blockbuster and many will re subscribe to Netflix I just hope they will deliver, as this fight has long been awaited to happen.


i wonder if Jake will pay Mike this time after that slap  ;D or Jake is going to double the pay instead because the hype increases to making this fight like its the most legit profit?

looking at the size of Jake, i doubt Mike would win this fight. he best savor that slap because i think Jake will take this fight very seriously and will KO Mike. the size is just a carrying a massive force. even if Mike can cover his head from a wild hook, it will still smash the old man.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Rruchi man on November 15, 2024, 10:21:32 PM
Mike Tyson is king of the boxing ring but we all know he's not young anymore and that's why this could be a tough fight for him. Jake Paul on the other hand is also a good boxer but he's more likely to win the match because he's young and more energetic than Mike Tyson. But, we'll have to see the match to know who's going to be the real winner of the match.
There has been a lot of tension in the interview, with Tyson still as aggressive as ever. The only thing that is going to hold him back and limit his performance is age, because mentality-wise, I still think he has it in him, better than Jake Paul, whose only leverage is his age. I am still not going to gamble on this fight; I will be watching for entertainment and expecting Tyson to discipline that kid.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Zed0X on November 15, 2024, 10:58:49 PM
I voted on an ongoing youtube poll and picked Tyson to win just for fun. I was surprised to see that 91% also thought he'll emerge victorious ;D Maybe they also thought the same as me. Let's be real though, the slap to Jake during the face off is probably Tyson's best shot in this boxing circus. I guess this is one of those cases where everyone will be happy to be proven wrong and that he'll actually KO his younger opponent.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: pawel7777 on November 15, 2024, 11:40:22 PM
I'm not sure if that slap was staged or not but Tyson looked pretty fast with it and Paul couldn't even react.
People are saying that both of them are on steroids and I wouldn't be surprised by that at all. Mike Tyson admitted in the past of being on TRT. I don't think they will be subject to testing, although I might be wrong as the fight is officially sanctioned.

Paul looked visibly bigger than Tyson, but, as per their official weights, Mike was very slightly heavier, weighing 228.4 compared to Jake's 227. Anyhow, Jake's the heaviest he's ever been, so probably his speed and cardio will suffer a bit.

I believe bookies give Tyson slightly less chance than a few days ago, but still more than they did initially.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Rruchi man on November 16, 2024, 09:40:07 AM
Paul looked visibly bigger than Tyson, but, as per their official weights, Mike was very slightly heavier, weighing 228.4 compared to Jake's 227. Anyhow, Jake's the heaviest he's ever been, so probably his speed and cardio will suffer a bit.
I expected Tyson to discipline Jake Paul, and you expected Paul's weights to be a problem to him. Well, the update is that it didn't go as expected for either of us because Paul won the fight, and the good news is that we can finally close this topic because Mike even in his loss right now, has still benefited. Mike Tyson is no longer in his prime and we understand that, Mike Tyson the age of Jake Paul would have destroyed Paul.

Big respect to Iron Mike for showing us that at that age we are still capable of a lot.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: bisdak40 on November 16, 2024, 12:08:14 PM
I expected Tyson to discipline Jake Paul, and you expected Paul's weights to be a problem to him. Well, the update is that it didn't go as expected for either of us because Paul won the fight, and the good news is that we can finally close this topic because Mike even in his loss right now, has still benefited. Mike Tyson is no longer in his prime and we understand that, Mike Tyson the age of Jake Paul would have destroyed Paul.

Big respect to Iron Mike for showing us that at that age we are still capable of a lot.

If Mike Tyson were the same age as Jake Paul, this fight wouldn’t have been possible due to the disparity in speed and power. I didn’t expect Mike Tyson to go the distance, but he did. I admire his endurance and stamina for finishing the fight with pride.

Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: LogitechMouse on November 16, 2024, 12:53:53 PM
Paul looked visibly bigger than Tyson, but, as per their official weights, Mike was very slightly heavier, weighing 228.4 compared to Jake's 227. Anyhow, Jake's the heaviest he's ever been, so probably his speed and cardio will suffer a bit.
I expected Tyson to discipline Jake Paul, and you expected Paul's weights to be a problem to him. Well, the update is that it didn't go as expected for either of us because Paul won the fight, and the good news is that we can finally close this topic because Mike even in his loss right now, has still benefited. Mike Tyson is no longer in his prime and we understand that, Mike Tyson the age of Jake Paul would have destroyed Paul.

Big respect to Iron Mike for showing us that at that age we are still capable of a lot.
Looks like you underestimated one thing in this fight. AGE GAP.

Tyson might be one of the most unstoppable fighters in his prime, but he isn't on his prime anymore. In any sports, we know that AGE is a big factor, and this is no exception. Age in every sport is a big factor; hence, I already know that Tyson will be schooled on this fight. Like you said, I would also go with Tyson if both of them are on the same age because at that time, both Tyson and Paul are on its prime.

Kudos to both fighters. Paul for not going all-in when needed and Tyson for stepping up on the ring again despite being old. It's a win-win situation still since both of them will go home with millions of dollars. :D
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: pawel7777 on November 16, 2024, 01:15:40 PM
Apparently everyone agrees that the fight was a disappointment.
As expected, Tyson's gas tank got empty after two rounds, and many say Paul went easy on Mike in later rounds and wasn't really seeking for a KO.
Both got their paychecks and nobody got hurt, Paul's antifans still hate him (perhaps even more) and still want to see him getting destroyed by someone who actually can fight, which is how Paul's business model works.
Whether the flight was scripted or not, I don't know. I don't think it matters that much. It had not much to do with the sport anyway.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Baofeng on November 16, 2024, 01:18:56 PM
Apparently everyone agrees that the fight was a disappointment.
As expected, Tyson's gas tank got empty after two rounds, and many say Paul went easy on Mike in later rounds and wasn't really seeking for a KO.
Both got their paychecks and nobody got hurt, Paul's antifans still hate him (perhaps even more) and still want to see him getting destroyed by someone who actually can fight, which is how Paul's business model works.
Whether the flight was scripted or not, I don't know. I don't think it matters that much. It had not much to do with the sport anyway.

Yeah, it's really a disappointment and we all know that Jake Paul is going to win in this fight. The anticipation though, but after the first couple of rounds, it's over as Tyson was tired, emptied gas tank.

Canelo vs Jake Paul should be next hehehe, it's because we wanted Jake Paul to be destroyed and knock out cold.

But for sure Canelo wanted more money I wouldn't be surprised if he ask like a $100 million pay check here.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Zed0X on November 16, 2024, 02:25:56 PM
So yeah, that slap in the face off was the hardest hit landed by Tyson ;D The best feedback that I've read so far was that the real winners were the people who didn't watch the fight and enjoyed their sleep. There were also other funny ones like they still want a refund even if they didn't pay for PPV or gate ;D
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: bitbit97 on November 16, 2024, 02:59:40 PM
I'm not sure if that slap was staged or not but Tyson looked pretty fast with it and Paul couldn't even react.
People are saying that both of them are on steroids and I wouldn't be surprised by that at all. Mike Tyson admitted in the past of being on TRT. I don't think they will be subject to testing, although I might be wrong as the fight is officially sanctioned.

Paul looked visibly bigger than Tyson, but, as per their official weights, Mike was very slightly heavier, weighing 228.4 compared to Jake's 227. Anyhow, Jake's the heaviest he's ever been, so probably his speed and cardio will suffer a bit.

I believe bookies give Tyson slightly less chance than a few days ago, but still more than they did initially.

That slap wasnt staged. Many pay attention only on the slap, but by looking on other videos of that slap and different angles, it turned out that Jake has stepped on Mike’s toe. That is why Mike slapped him and make that weird pointing after.

As to the fight, it what totally what they were able to give at that moment. Mike, due to his age, was not able to be active during whole fight, and his stamina was enough for 2-3 rounds only. Jake did what everyone expected, ducked damage, avoided most of the attacks in the start of the fight, and waited for Mike to get exhausted. Imho people had high and wrong expectation from that fight. They expected to see peak career form Mike and a talented younger opponent. Got retired boxer vs cautious amateur fight.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: target on November 16, 2024, 03:26:48 PM
Apparently everyone agrees that the fight was a disappointment.
As expected, Tyson's gas tank got empty after two rounds, and many say Paul went easy on Mike in later rounds and wasn't really seeking for a KO.
Both got their paychecks and nobody got hurt, Paul's antifans still hate him (perhaps even more) and still want to see him getting destroyed by someone who actually can fight, which is how Paul's business model works.
Whether the flight was scripted or not, I don't know. I don't think it matters that much. It had not much to do with the sport anyway.

Yeah, it's really a disappointment and we all know that Jake Paul is going to win in this fight. The anticipation though, but after the first couple of rounds, it's over as Tyson was tired, emptied gas tank.

Canelo vs Jake Paul should be next hehehe, it's because we wanted Jake Paul to be destroyed and knock out cold.

But for sure Canelo wanted more money I wouldn't be surprised if he ask like a $100 million pay check here.

They were right about this fight being exhibition only. Not really pro fight. The slap was just marketing like they said. They know Mike won't last even up to 3 rounds, even in his prime year's he  doesn't have the tank.

Canelo wouldn't be good for Jake. Jake sets up his fights to his advantage and I don't think Canelo can be bought to have an exhibition. Obviously Canelo will win.

Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: 0t3p0t on November 16, 2024, 09:13:52 PM
So yeah, that slap in the face off was the hardest hit landed by Tyson ;D The best feedback that I've read so far was that the real winners were the people who didn't watch the fight and enjoyed their sleep. There were also other funny ones like they still want a refund even if they didn't pay for PPV or gate ;D
I didn't watch the fight so maybe I am the real winner here haha but I am curious what had happened so maybe I had to spend time watching replays as soon as I have time. As a fan of combat sports I personally cannot sleep well if I missed a match but because of my tight schedule it's acceptable. 😅
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Crwth on November 16, 2024, 09:18:19 PM
It is good that it is part of Netflix. I could watch it, but it was not entertaining because I felt like restraints were happening, and I just saw it as a Money-grab thing. I do hope that he will be fighting someone who is within his level and age.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: robelneo on November 16, 2024, 10:03:14 PM
It is good that it is part of Netflix. I could watch it, but it was not entertaining because I felt like restraints were happening, and I just saw it as a Money-grab thing. I do hope that he will be fighting someone who is within his level and age.

I can still watch it even if its not on Netflix, as I have free streaming links, but yeah the fight is not something that you can close to competitive, not even entertaining. I enjoy watching the Seranno and Taylor fights and Barrios match, but we still have to give respect to Tyson, this is one proof that we can't never beat father time, Mike is good in the first three rounds and after time father time caught up with him.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Zed0X on November 17, 2024, 03:53:24 AM
It is good that it is part of Netflix. I could watch it, but it was not entertaining because I felt like restraints were happening, and I just saw it as a Money-grab thing. I do hope that he will be fighting someone who is within his level and age.
Nah, he'll continue to pick washed up boxers and fighters from other organizations because he needs to look good. He's actually decent himself but it's bad for business if someone knocks him out for real. I thought his fight with Tommy Fury would encourage him to face more challenging opponents but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: bitterguy28 on November 17, 2024, 09:46:21 AM
I can still watch it even if its not on Netflix, as I have free streaming links, but yeah the fight is not something that you can close to competitive, not even entertaining. I enjoy watching the Seranno and Taylor fights and Barrios match, but we still have to give respect to Tyson, this is one proof that we can't never beat father time, Mike is good in the first three rounds and after time father time caught up with him.
i really did think mike tyson would be able to beat him especially after he slapped him before the match but i guess the amount of people who bet on tyson is proof of how much of a legend he is that even though he is a lot older than jake paul people still thought he could beat the new guy
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: libert19 on November 17, 2024, 10:31:56 AM
I can still watch it even if its not on Netflix, as I have free streaming links, but yeah the fight is not something that you can close to competitive, not even entertaining. I enjoy watching the Seranno and Taylor fights and Barrios match, but we still have to give respect to Tyson, this is one proof that we can't never beat father time, Mike is good in the first three rounds and after time father time caught up with him.
i really did think mike tyson would be able to beat him especially after he slapped him before the match but i guess the amount of people who bet on tyson is proof of how much of a legend he is that even though he is a lot older than jake paul people still thought he could beat the new guy

That slap was probably just to hype the match, I mean they had too something like this to get eyeballs, otherwise it just feels bland. Regarding people thinking Mike could beat Jake, people do go by person's reputation of past — I know because I do same.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: bitbit97 on November 17, 2024, 11:02:55 AM
I can still watch it even if its not on Netflix, as I have free streaming links, but yeah the fight is not something that you can close to competitive, not even entertaining. I enjoy watching the Seranno and Taylor fights and Barrios match, but we still have to give respect to Tyson, this is one proof that we can't never beat father time, Mike is good in the first three rounds and after time father time caught up with him.
i really did think mike tyson would be able to beat him especially after he slapped him before the match but i guess the amount of people who bet on tyson is proof of how much of a legend he is that even though he is a lot older than jake paul people still thought he could beat the new guy

That slap was probably just to hype the match, I mean they had too something like this to get eyeballs, otherwise it just feels bland. Regarding people thinking Mike could beat Jake, people do go by person's reputation of past — I know because I do same.

Dont know if that was really a hype thing and Mike overreacted on purpose, but here is the explanation of his action Jake stepped on Mikes toes.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_SK1qyW1Okk.  (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_SK1qyW1Okk.)

Regarding the fight - miracle did not happen. Old finds it very hard to beat young. If Mike was a little bit more younger, or was following training routine all the time (except training for RJJ exhibition fight, and this fight, it was probably his only intense training for last 10 years).
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: libert19 on November 17, 2024, 11:41:55 AM
I can still watch it even if its not on Netflix, as I have free streaming links, but yeah the fight is not something that you can close to competitive, not even entertaining. I enjoy watching the Seranno and Taylor fights and Barrios match, but we still have to give respect to Tyson, this is one proof that we can't never beat father time, Mike is good in the first three rounds and after time father time caught up with him.
i really did think mike tyson would be able to beat him especially after he slapped him before the match but i guess the amount of people who bet on tyson is proof of how much of a legend he is that even though he is a lot older than jake paul people still thought he could beat the new guy

That slap was probably just to hype the match, I mean they had too something like this to get eyeballs, otherwise it just feels bland. Regarding people thinking Mike could beat Jake, people do go by person's reputation of past — I know because I do same.

Dont know if that was really a hype thing and Mike overreacted on purpose, but here is the explanation of his action Jake stepped on Mikes toes.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_SK1qyW1Okk.  (https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_SK1qyW1Okk.)

Thanks for this, now it looks more like an involuntary response for stepping on toe, even Mike's face says so. In comments though, someone is mentioning Jake did that on purpose, I am not buying that.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Mate2237 on November 17, 2024, 04:57:28 PM
There some things I learned from this fight. After the fight, Jake Paul bow down for Mike Tyson showing his respect to him. That was a recognizing Mike Tyson seniority. And also Mike Tyson was happy after when Jake Paul has won the fight. As for him, he was happy that he fought to reach the eight (8) rounds and he was hoppy to fought with the young boy for the last time because according to him he would been a dead man in the month of June 2024 for his sickness.

The high tension anticipated boxing fight has come and gone but it is still active for discussion.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Crwth on November 17, 2024, 05:53:55 PM
I can still watch it even if its not on Netflix, as I have free streaming links, but yeah the fight is not something that you can close to competitive, not even entertaining. I enjoy watching the Seranno and Taylor fights and Barrios match, but we still have to give respect to Tyson, this is one proof that we can't never beat father time, Mike is good in the first three rounds and after time father time caught up with him.
Good for you to find free streaming links. There might be reposts from their Netflix account or something. I agree that it's not that much entertaining and the part where Mike is good at the earlier times, he is just really tired with the last rounds. It's good he didn't get injured.



Nah, he'll continue to pick washed up boxers and fighters from other organizations because he needs to look good. He's actually decent himself but it's bad for business if someone knocks him out for real. I thought his fight with Tommy Fury would encourage him to face more challenging opponents but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Well, maybe there's just an understanding between the two fighters and how it should be. Maybe we get to see a more entertaining one soon
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Baofeng on November 18, 2024, 12:37:16 AM
According to the post of Netflix,

(https://i.ibb.co/rdj9S0T/Screenshot-2024-11-18-073455.png) (https://imgbb.com/)

https://x.com/netflix/status/1857906492235723244

60 millions household has watch it, including myself, so that is already a record. And yeah, it buffers, and I thought that I will not able to watch the fight. It's good thing that Netflix has mitigation risk and so the experience is seamless.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: bisdak40 on November 18, 2024, 03:08:25 AM
According to the post of Netflix,
~snip~
60 millions household has watch it, including myself, so that is already a record. And yeah, it buffers, and I thought that I will not able to watch the fight. It's good thing that Netflix has mitigation risk and so the experience is seamless.

Same here. Although I’m not a fan of the fight, I still watched it on Netflix, hoping that Mike Tyson and Jake Paul would be safe. The rules of 2-minute rounds and wearing 14-ounce gloves help ensure the fighters’ safety.

Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: target on November 18, 2024, 04:36:53 PM

There was a post also claiming Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul fight earns more than the Jon Jones Vs Stipe Moicic fight. People all over knew Trump will be on Jones vs Moicic fight but it's a flop. Mike really proved to be one of the most legendary fighter that every one wants to see.

I didn't watch since I have no Netflix account. But I was tempted to avail because of their fight. YouTube never failed it's users though.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: robelneo on November 18, 2024, 09:55:55 PM

There was a post also claiming Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul fight earns more than the Jon Jones Vs Stipe Moicic fight. People all over knew Trump will be on Jones vs Moicic fight but it's a flop. Mike really proved to be one of the most legendary fighter that every one wants to see.

I didn't watch since I have no Netflix account. But I was tempted to avail because of their fight. YouTube never failed it's users though.

Its a huge success. Imagine: Netflix claimed there were glitches when they were doing the telecast, but they managed to generate 60 million households, beating any UFC main events. Considering that UFC is a thirty-year-old company, the ending is not something that we expect, but we are still glad that Tyson was not hurt; he deserves to live long and get the praise of many generations to come.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: bitbit97 on November 18, 2024, 10:20:46 PM
Same here. Although I’m not a fan of the fight, I still watched it on Netflix, hoping that Mike Tyson and Jake Paul would be safe. The rules of 2-minute rounds and wearing 14-ounce gloves help ensure the fighters’ safety.

I cant say that those gloves makes a huge difference in fighters safety. The difference is in punch resistance, but when such heavyhitters punch, it does not matter if they wear 10, 12 or 14oz gloves. Because it even hurts when they block the punch. But, 2-minute rounds indeed made a huge difference. Shorter round means more action, as it will be stupid to sit in defense all the time. To win the round, a boxer must show in 2 minutes, what others show during 3. More action, more risk. I am also not a huge fan of boxing, but I have googled fight results on purpose and even watched highlight.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: pawel7777 on November 19, 2024, 11:00:06 PM
I've added a poll to check what's the dominating opinion on whether or not the fight was staged.

I honestly cannot tell. On one hand, I wouldn't be much surprised if it was, given the shady business model of Paul's boxing enterprise and the rumours relating to his previous fights regarding strange clauses and NDAs. On the other hand, Paul was a favourite anyway and perfectly capable of winning against a nearly 60 year old Mike. He knew that all he had to do was to avoid brawls and that time was on his side as Mike didn't have much in his gas tank.

Anyhow, it's over now and hopefully we can focus more on real boxing fights.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Baofeng on November 20, 2024, 12:00:04 AM
I've added a poll to check what's the dominating opinion on whether or not the fight was staged.

I honestly cannot tell. On one hand, I wouldn't be much surprised if it was, given the shady business model of Paul's boxing enterprise and the rumours relating to his previous fights regarding strange clauses and NDAs. On the other hand, Paul was a favourite anyway and perfectly capable of winning against a nearly 60 year old Mike. He knew that all he had to do was to avoid brawls and that time was on his side as Mike didn't have much in his gas tank.

Anyhow, it's over now and hopefully we can focus more on real boxing fights.

I voted no, I do not think that it was stage at the beginning, if it is then the outcome should be at least a draw if they want to preserved Mike's legacy. And I was trying to look at the instructions of their corner, and I will say that Mike's corner seems to be genuine in giving Mike instructions on how to win the fight. It's that he can't really pull the trigger and he has gas out after 2 rounds. But they keep on egging him and motivate him to win the fight despite what it seems a very impossible task.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: bisdak40 on November 20, 2024, 03:04:57 AM
I've added a poll to check what's the dominating opinion on whether or not the fight was staged.

Voted for "don't know" as i don't think it was staged, it's just Jake Paul was not throwing too many punches that could hurt Mike Tyson when the latter was out of gas. Maybe out of respect to Mike Tyson, Jake doesn't want to hurt him which is also good because Mike Tyson could be easily hurt if Jake had the intention.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Kemarit on November 22, 2024, 02:12:53 PM
I've added a poll to check what's the dominating opinion on whether or not the fight was staged.

Voted for "don't know" as i don't think it was staged, it's just Jake Paul was not throwing too many punches that could hurt Mike Tyson when the latter was out of gas. Maybe out of respect to Mike Tyson, Jake doesn't want to hurt him which is also good because Mike Tyson could be easily hurt if Jake had the intention.

I also observed that, and I was under the impression that he really doesn't want to hurt Mike or even win by a knockout and so he did pullback and held some because it could have been in the contract that there are going to be no knockout or knockdown.

Nevertheless, we are not entertained, because of that, but in the end, we can fault everyone for really hype in this fight and then no action at all. So now that this is over, there are a lot of speculations on which one Jake Paul will be fighting next.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: electronicash on November 25, 2024, 07:03:31 PM
I've added a poll to check what's the dominating opinion on whether or not the fight was staged.

Voted for "don't know" as i don't think it was staged, it's just Jake Paul was not throwing too many punches that could hurt Mike Tyson when the latter was out of gas. Maybe out of respect to Mike Tyson, Jake doesn't want to hurt him which is also good because Mike Tyson could be easily hurt if Jake had the intention.

I also observed that, and I was under the impression that he really doesn't want to hurt Mike or even win by a knockout and so he did pullback and held some because it could have been in the contract that there are going to be no knockout or knockdown.

Nevertheless, we are not entertained, because of that, but in the end, we can fault everyone for really hype in this fight and then no action at all. So now that this is over, there are a lot of speculations on which one Jake Paul will be fighting next.

rumors are coming which they are sued already for rigging the fight. i don't know if its true but a lot of pro boxers noticed what Mike did in the ring. pulling back when he could potentially blow Jake once and for all to punish the joker. bettors put their money on Mike but disappointed to see how he ended up like not even trying.

they hyped it too much that they sanctioned it to be a pro. but they know its just for Jake benefit. its Netflix that is being blamed which there is also  rumors they'd be sued for this hype.

Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: bisdak40 on November 26, 2024, 01:26:59 AM
rumors are coming which they are sued already for rigging the fight. i don't know if its true but a lot of pro boxers noticed what Mike did in the ring. pulling back when he could potentially blow Jake once and for all to punish the joker. bettors put their money on Mike but disappointed to see how he ended up like not even trying.

they hyped it too much that they sanctioned it to be a pro. but they know its just for Jake benefit. its Netflix that is being blamed which there is also  rumors they'd be sued for this hype.

IMO, Mike Tyson gave his best in the first two rounds and never have hurt the younger Jake Paul and that's it for Iron Mike, i mean he is only good for two rounds considering his age. Fortunately for him that Jake Paul was somewhat hesitant to throw punches that could hurt Mike. If there is someone that needs to be sued, that is Jake Paul, just my thought.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: pawel7777 on December 03, 2024, 09:25:11 PM
Apparently there are some rumours about Saudis offering Mike $700m for a rematch:
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/12/03/674efe75ca474115218b459d.html

It sounds like it was more of a casual comment by Turki Alalshikh than any official offer, and he also mentioned that it would be contingent on Tyson KOing Paul within 3 minutes:
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"[Alalshikh] stating, 'Jake Paul is a joke. I am giving Mike Tyson $700 million if he agrees to fight Jake Paul this time in a real fight and wins by KO in a maximum of 3 minutes.'"

So yeah, I don't expect we will actually see a rematch, and that's probably for the best.
Title: Re: [Boxing profanation] Jake Paul Vs Mike Tyson - 15th November
Post by: Kemarit on December 08, 2024, 05:22:39 AM
Apparently there are some rumours about Saudis offering Mike $700m for a rematch:
https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/12/03/674efe75ca474115218b459d.html

It sounds like it was more of a casual comment by Turki Alalshikh than any official offer, and he also mentioned that it would be contingent on Tyson KOing Paul within 3 minutes:
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"[Alalshikh] stating, 'Jake Paul is a joke. I am giving Mike Tyson $700 million if he agrees to fight Jake Paul this time in a real fight and wins by KO in a maximum of 3 minutes.'"

So yeah, I don't expect we will actually see a rematch, and that's probably for the best.

And with that, comes a lawsuit,

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/12/08/prGjH.png)

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Mike Tyson, 58, made his professional boxing comeback last month when he had a bout against YouTuber-turned-boxer Jake Paul at AT&T Stadium in Texas. However, despite raking in millions (around $20m (£15.6m), the boxing legend now faces circumstances where he could lose a percentage of his earnings.

This is because Tyson is being sued in a London court for nearly $1.6 million (£1.25m) for allegedly breaking a deal to promote a gambling company after agreeing to fight Paul.

"Medier, a Cyprus-registered company that promotes online casino and betting company Rabona, is suing the former heavyweight champion and his company Tyrannic for allegedly reneging on the deal, which was agreed in January," reported Reuters.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/sports/boxing/mike-tyson-sued-for-1-600-000-over-jake-paul-fight-boxing-legend-responds/ar-AA1vrFHA

It's not big of money as compare to what he get fighting Jake Paul. But still a million is a million. So who knows, maybe Tyson will try to make the rematch as the amount being offered to him is huge.