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Title: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: Themepen on November 06, 2024, 12:52:15 PM
I was writing a post and I have written it properly but suddenly with a mistake my page refreshed. And all data gone.

I have good experience with Bitcointalk. When I click the preview button it got save in draft. So I can find it easily.

So question is... Is there any setting which I didn't on? Or is there no draft button?

If there is no draft button so I think it should be introduced because if I am facing this problem so I am sure many users are also facing.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: Charles-Tim on November 06, 2024, 01:03:01 PM
When my account was teleported on this forum, I noticed that there is no notification on this forum except one board or so. I posted about it but nothing was done.

I do not think admin will do anything about this.

I will advice you to use a browser that will not refresh by moving your finger on the screen down. Many mobile browsed are like that. You will be at the top part of the page and the page will refresh if you want to scroll more up but which is not possible because you are already at the up part but instead refresh the page for you. Not all mobile browser do that. Although, not that it is a perfect solution but it will reduce the chance such will happen.

If an advance software is used, even if you close the browser, what you posted last will automatically generate itself as if you did not close the browser at all.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: Mia Chloe on November 06, 2024, 03:12:08 PM
I was writing a post and I have written it properly but suddenly with a mistake my page refreshed. And all data gone.
I have good experience with Bitcointalk. When I click the preview button it got save in draft. So I can find it easily.
So question is... Is there any setting which I didn't on? Or is there no draft button?
If there is no draft button so I think it should be introduced because if I am facing this problem so I am sure many users are also facing.
Well unfortunately this forum doesn't have a button you can hit to save your posts to draft when you are writing. However in the past I used to have issues with me losing all what I typed just by mistakenly refreshing a page or performing the exit gesture when I'm surfing on mobile. To prevent this what I do most of the time is copy the text I've typed so far anytime I have a new paragraph. That way I can easily paste once again even if I close the tab unknowningly.

Also I suggest you get a nice note pad that auto saves as you type. This will be more effective when you are making a lengthy post, all you would have to do when done is copy and paste here to post once again.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: Mate2237 on November 06, 2024, 10:01:49 PM
This your post and this https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=325467.0 are same if I am not mistaken. This has happened to me many times and if I complain nothing or no action will be taking so it is better I became silent to follow up the trend. This are some of the things need to be done in the forum.

Frankly speaking it is very painful when you have typed good number of lines and suddenly it disappears. And everything you have type wipeout. Something needs to be done.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: NotATether on November 07, 2024, 02:06:33 PM
This forum uses the Simple Machines Forum software and so as a consequence, it does indeed have the draft feature, but it is disabled by the administrator of this forum.

The best thing to do is just save your drafts in a notepad file if you don't want them to be lost when you accidentally refresh a page. Fortunately most people are not composing long, elaborate posts on here too often.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: examplens on November 07, 2024, 03:56:05 PM
It happened to me only a few times that I accidentally closed the browser, but after restarting I got the page with the post and all the content again, even though I didn't save it. I guess it's up to the browser.
On the SMF script, the "preview" button should have a draft-saving function. At least that's how it is on Btt, there's no reason why it shouldn't be here as well (I didn't try it)
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: PX-Z on November 07, 2024, 07:18:43 PM
On the SMF script, the "preview" button should have a draft-saving function. At least that's how it is on Btt, there's no reason why it shouldn't be here as well (I didn't try it)
Newer versions of smf just like this forum have save draft MOD so either admin disabled it or not added yet on this forum. It will be much better if there is  something like that knowing there's no undo button on the text editor.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on November 07, 2024, 09:10:26 PM
I do not think admin will do anything about this.
I have seem an SMF mod to add draft feature. Admin can just install and activate it.

[Update]
Here (https://custom.simplemachines.org/index.php?mod=1264) it is.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: MrSpasybo on November 08, 2024, 07:15:22 PM
It happened to me only a few times that I accidentally closed the browser, but after restarting I got the page with the post and all the content again, even though I didn't save it. I guess it's up to the browser.
On the SMF script, the "preview" button should have a draft-saving function. At least that's how it is on Btt, there's no reason why it shouldn't be here as well (I didn't try it)
If the Draft feature is suggested, the admin could add it to make the forum more user-friendly, of course after the admin finishes more important tasks for AltcoinsTalks.

I usually have a habit of drafting content in a txt file at a faster speed and with a larger font size. Poor internet quality can be annoying when typing directly on the forum, and sometimes the content also disappears when the website is reloaded. This is easily solved with an offline tool - txt or docx, and then I can simply copy/paste my content onto the forum ^^
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: Faisal2202 on November 09, 2024, 05:38:46 PM
I was writing a post and I have written it properly but suddenly with a mistake my page refreshed. And all data gone.

I have good experience with Bitcointalk. When I click the preview button it got save in draft. So I can find it easily.

So question is... Is there any setting which I didn't on? Or is there no draft button?

If there is no draft button so I think it should be introduced because if I am facing this problem so I am sure many users are also facing.
There is no draft button here and even after we preview our posts, they don't go into the draft section because AFAIK there is no such thing here. I also saw the same problem many times,, mostly when I am on my smartphone and making a post and suddenly I hit back button, which most of the time bring me content back as I redo it and on Desktop Chrome I also use the redo button but this doesn't work all the time.

And when I mistakenly refresh the page I really hate it, especially on a smartphone. I hope they integrate the draft system soon as that's the most needed thing right now.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: DYING_S0UL on November 12, 2024, 06:59:24 PM
This forum uses the Simple Machines Forum software and so as a consequence, it does indeed have the draft feature, but it is disabled by the administrator of this forum.

The best thing to do is just save your drafts in a notepad file if you don't want them to be lost when you accidentally refresh a page. Fortunately most people are not composing long, elaborate posts on here too often.

If it's available, then why haven't they added this feature yet? Doesn't make sense.

I have accidentally closed the tab a couple of times, and rewriting everything from scratch can be a hassle. Yes, the short ones are fine, but the long ones are really a pain. I have posted a couple of translations here since I'm a translator, and I had to modify the post. And every time a accident happened, I felt the pain! I'm not sure whether the back button works like it does on BTT or the browser cache do the trick! I guess, i'll have to test it.

p.s: I'm using an online notepad to make the drafts and then posting it here.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: bayu7adi on November 14, 2024, 03:35:52 AM
This forum uses the Simple Machines Forum software and so as a consequence, it does indeed have the draft feature, but it is disabled by the administrator of this forum.

The best thing to do is just save your drafts in a notepad file if you don't want them to be lost when you accidentally refresh a page. Fortunately most people are not composing long, elaborate posts on here too often.
So far I also use notepad to type and post on this forum, even if my internet is having problems or my computer suddenly dies, it will not be a big obstacle, because with notepad++ it will be saved automatically and can be opened again even if we don't press Ctrl + S.

I have been implementing this habit since I had quite a problem when typing a long post, but suddenly the internet went down... that made me have to rewrite the post... this really drains my energy and time if the post I wrote is quite long.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: joniboini on November 15, 2024, 04:53:47 AM
because with notepad++ it will be saved automatically and can be opened again even if we don't press Ctrl + S.
That's a good alternative, although I don't think NotePad++ is designed for this purpose to begin with. But yeah, autosave can be a lifesaver if you're writing a long post. I had a blackout yesterday and I've yet to post my comments, which makes me lazy to rewrite it and just move one.

I'm not sure whether the back button works like it does on BTT or the browser cache do the trick! I guess, i'll have to test it.
I'm using a Mac with Chrome browser and so far refreshing a page whenever an error happens seems to show our unpublished post. I won't rely on this for long/translation posts though.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: DYING_S0UL on November 15, 2024, 06:02:36 AM
because with notepad++ it will be saved automatically and can be opened again even if we don't press Ctrl + S.
That's a good alternative, although I don't think NotePad++ is designed for this purpose to begin with. But yeah, autosave can be a lifesaver if you're writing a long post. I had a blackout yesterday and I've yet to post my comments, which makes me lazy to rewrite it and just move one.

NotePad++ have an autosave feature? I don't use it regularly, so I didn't notice. IDK  :(

For me, I use an online based Notepad to save my work. It's easy and reliable. Even with a sudden blackout, nothing gets lost as long as I don't delete my browser cache! It doesn't have a time limit either. It doesn't matter if I open the site after a week or a month, as long as the browser cache is intact, I am able to get back to where I previously left off!


Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: bayu7adi on November 22, 2024, 03:14:28 AM
NotePad++ have an autosave feature? I don't use it regularly, so I didn't notice. IDK  :(

For me, I use an online based Notepad to save my work. It's easy and reliable. Even with a sudden blackout, nothing gets lost as long as I don't delete my browser cache! It doesn't have a time limit either. It doesn't matter if I open the site after a week or a month, as long as the browser cache is intact, I am able to get back to where I previously left off!

  • https://onlinenotepad.org/
  • https://www.rapidtables.com/tools/notepad.html
No matter what tool you choose, as long as you are comfortable with its auto-save feature, it will prevent your posts from being deleted when there is a problem with your PC or you make a wrong click...

For me, the most important thing is an application that is light and does not require a lot of resources, so that it does not interfere with the performance of the main application that I am focusing on. Thank you for giving me a new perspective on online notepad, maybe it can be my solution when my notepad++ crashes or has other problems.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: joniboini on November 22, 2024, 04:44:13 AM
Thank you for giving me a new perspective on online notepad, maybe it can be my solution when my notepad++ crashes or has other problems.
I never experienced any major hard crashes using Notepad++, so I believe the reason you migrated is probably due to convenience. As long as it works out for you I don't think that's an issue. Though if the forum has a draft feature then we don't have to worry about this anymore.

I talked to my local moderator recently and it seems like he also has issues with the lack of a draft feature. It would be great to have, even if it's limited considering how convenience it is for members who like to make new threads or long post.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: Crypto Library on November 30, 2024, 11:20:05 PM
I never experienced any major hard crashes using Notepad++, so I believe the reason you migrated is probably due to convenience. As long as it works out for you I don't think that's an issue. Though if the forum has a draft feature then we don't have to worry about this anymore.

I talked to my local moderator recently and it seems like he also has issues with the lack of a draft feature. It would be great to have, even if it's limited considering how convenience it is for members who like to make new threads or long post.
I think I've seen more than three topics created about this, including one I created myself, and if there are more topics open for this discussion, I may not have noticed them.
And I've seen most of the topics get positive replies from other members, meaning suggestions for implementing the drafting system.
However, it is more important to seek the attention of the admin than our local moderator on this because I have not yet seen any statement from the admin on this matter or it has not come before my eyes.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: libert19 on January 15, 2025, 08:19:14 AM
I will advice you to use a browser that will not refresh by moving your finger on the screen down. Many mobile browsed are like that. You will be at the top part of the page and the page will refresh if you want to scroll more up but which is not possible because you are already at the up part but instead refresh the page for you. Not all mobile browser do that. Although, not that it is a perfect solution but it will reduce the chance such will happen.

It's just setting, "swipe down to refresh", if your browser does this, go to settings and disable it.

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If an advance software is used, even if you close the browser, what you posted last will automatically generate itself as if you did not close the browser at all.

That's kind of hit or miss. Sometimes my browser shows data as if nothing happened, and sometimes it wipes everything up.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: Stuart on January 21, 2025, 04:41:12 PM
I have faced this same situation on several times, and most times, I just believe I should have copied it on my clipboard, to avoid this situation happening again. If this can be fixed or added to the forum code, it will be very helpful.

It is a very nice thing that the moderators and members of this forum do all they can to make sure things work perfectly fine, and I'm sure that this will be fixed when the moderators looks into this situation.
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: DYING_S0UL on January 21, 2025, 06:11:18 PM
I never experienced any major hard crashes using Notepad++, so I believe the reason you migrated is probably due to convenience. As long as it works out for you I don't think that's an issue. Though if the forum has a draft feature then we don't have to worry about this anymore.

I talked to my local moderator recently and it seems like he also has issues with the lack of a draft feature. It would be great to have, even if it's limited considering how convenience it is for members who like to make new threads or long post.
I think I've seen more than three topics created about this, including one I created myself, and if there are more topics open for this discussion, I may not have noticed them.
And I've seen most of the topics get positive replies from other members, meaning suggestions for implementing the drafting system.
However, it is more important to seek the attention of the admin than our local moderator on this because I have not yet seen any statement from the admin on this matter or it has not come before my eyes.

IMO, he sees everything and takes a moment to implement new changes. But if you think he missed this important feature request, then why not just post it in the chatbox? That would be the most logical action to draw his direct attention.  :D

To be honest, adding new features can be tricky, and without testing properly, it can lead to disaster. So, it's better to go at a slower pace. By the way, does the SMF have the option for a draft feature? How come we have this in BTT, which uses an ancient SMF version, whereas ALT uses a newer version and still doesn't have it? Doesn't make sense.  :-\
Title: Re: Is There Any Draft System?
Post by: joniboini on February 01, 2025, 05:57:38 AM
IMO, he sees everything and takes a moment to implement new changes. But if you think he missed this important feature request, then why not just post it in the chatbox? That would be the most logical action to draw his direct attention.  :D
I'm sure admin is aware of this. If there isn't any update then it's likely not a priority feature to add to the forum.

To be honest, adding new features can be tricky, and without testing properly, it can lead to disaster. So, it's better to go at a slower pace. By the way, does the SMF have the option for a draft feature? How come we have this in BTT, which uses an ancient SMF version, whereas ALT uses a newer version and still doesn't have it? Doesn't make sense.  :-\
Thorough testing is definitely important, and there's a high chance the developer has a testing environment to add new features. Yeah, SMF has a draft option by default iirc. I'm sure Bitcointalk is heavily modified so it doesn't really make sense to compare it to this forum. If there is enough time and manpower to do the same I'm sure admin will do the same. We already have features that are unique to this forum like the news bar under the chatbox. CMIIW.