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Title: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Mia Chloe on November 08, 2024, 01:15:58 PM
Majority of the time, bitcoin fees usually go up when FOMO is high in the market. for those that transact constantly with bitcoin you must have noticed that after every big push in bitcoin price before now would definitely cause the MEMPOOL to get congested and as a result fees would also skyrocket. The reason for the congestion is usually because of majority of scared investors rushing to move their coins over to different exchanges.

Surprisingly this recent pump in bitcoin's price seems to be holding up just good enough to even create new ATH prices at intervals. However fees don't seem to be pumping along price as usual. Fees still revolve around 2 sats/vbyte to around 8 sats/ vbytes. And the behaviour still seems normal with fees being lowest during US midnight to early morning periods and highest during intense afternoon working hours.

What's your opinion about the fees so far?
Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Charles-Tim on November 08, 2024, 01:34:24 PM
The reason for the congestion is usually because of majority of scared investors rushing to move their coins over to different

You mean to move coin from one exchange to another? I guess this is not what you meant because this is not what it should be.

Did you mean they are moving their coins from wallet to exchanges? No because moving coins from wallet to exchanges is common when people wants to sell.

But what fit more to it is that there is increase in on chain transactions.

Those blockchain spam like Ordinals are not yet so much in congesting the mempool is a good reason. But I am surprised that the congestion is not yet much but little.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Mia Chloe on November 08, 2024, 01:44:19 PM
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No you don't get my point. People moving coins to exchange was what I meant and not people moving coins across exchanges. Exchanges don't even work directly with the fee rate on the MEMPOOL especially centralised exchanges. They have their own fees they charge their users which is usually way higher than the regular bitcoin transactions.

Like you said , when sell pressure is high fees tend to go up. And that is because people are busy moving their coins to exchanges so they can swap to a stable coin like USDT or sell it off by swapping to fiat. My point is currently that seems not to be the case because fees are very normal. Infact according to coin market cap the greed level of the market is high too.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: examplens on November 08, 2024, 01:46:07 PM
What's your opinion about the fees so far?
Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?
Ordinals and RUNES spammers were responsible for the last fee pumping. Later it turned out that it was more or less a failure and they did not bring huge profits as expected.
I can't say I'm not happy about it.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: bitterguy28 on November 08, 2024, 02:02:25 PM
What's your opinion about the fees so far?
Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?
i have not thought much about transaction fees to be honest since i have no plans yet to sell my bitcoins or exchange them for stablecoins there is a chance that the price will still go up but i actually do not know up to how much i am quite confident that it will not really go down too much anymore so if i lose the chance to take advantage from this ath then i wouldnt mind as much as long as it doesnt reach too low

but if the fees are not as high even when the market is like this then maybe that is a good thing and maybe congestion is not as bad as it used to be before?
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Zed0X on November 08, 2024, 02:14:03 PM
I didn't notice significant congestion from the previous fluctuations too. I agree with the network spamming caused by Ordinals and Runes as the new culprit every time transaction fees surge. BTC price could be moving sideways but you'll still see 50 sats/vb as minimum because of those bep20s.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: rdluffy on November 08, 2024, 02:39:21 PM
It's good to see fees at 4 to 6 sats/vbyte at the moment of ATH
Nothing crazy is happening right now in network and this is good to everyone (except miners hehehe)

I made some txs to consolidate my wallets, and I paid 3 sats/vbyte

Another good reason is new people buying BTC and not having surprises like paying more than 10 USD to transfer BTC
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: legend45 on November 08, 2024, 06:36:04 PM
What's your opinion about the fees so far?
Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?
i have not thought much about transaction fees to be honest since i have no plans yet to sell my bitcoins or exchange them for stablecoins there is a chance that the price will still go up but i actually do not know up to how much i am quite confident that it will not really go down too much anymore so if i lose the chance to take advantage from this ath then i wouldnt mind as much as long as it doesnt reach too low

but if the fees are not as high even when the market is like this then maybe that is a good thing and maybe congestion is not as bad as it used to be before?
It seems that gas fees have started to rise because the price of bitcoin and crypto market traffic have started to increase, this is normal because gas fee transactions are always determined by traffic and coin prices at that time. That's based on my observations so far.
I haven't made any transactions yet and am only focused on holding my bitcoins until next year.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: 0t3p0t on November 08, 2024, 06:47:13 PM
What's your opinion about the fees so far?
Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?
Well yeah high possibility that all eyes right now is on the investors own target prices that is why they are holding like having an ironhand because they or we are all anticipating the next bullrun to come and I think no one wants to miss it so yeah fewer transactions of letting go their Bitcoins as we all know we want profit. The highest transaction fee I have ever used was 6sats/vB if I am not mistaken and that was a few days ago and now it's going back down to 3sats/vB.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: taufik123 on November 08, 2024, 07:00:42 PM
Transaction fees are indeed quite normal because there is no network congestion.
Network congestion is caused by several Bitcoin layer 2 networks such as Runes which also have many memecoins and NFTs.

But it is not absolute on layer 2 networks, network congestion is also caused by a surge in transactions on the main bitcoin network, so that costs continue to increase and are getting higher.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Asiska02 on November 08, 2024, 08:00:01 PM
What's your opinion about the fees so far?
Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?

Definitely it is something related to that. The bitcoin market is experiencing a lot of demand at the moment and that means more people are ready to hold and people keep buying more and more. The election of the United States always have effect on the price of bitcoin and now that we have a president that is likened to bitcoin, people will gain more trust in this currency and will love to hold as they foresee a brighter future for it rather than rushing to sell them off. Too many transactions which usually cause congestion in the mempool and fees getting high are less for now.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on November 08, 2024, 08:04:27 PM
Majority of the time, bitcoin fees usually go up when FOMO is high in the market. for those that transact constantly with bitcoin you must have noticed that after every big push in bitcoin price before now would definitely cause the MEMPOOL to get congested and as a result fees would also skyrocket. The reason for the congestion is usually because of majority of scared investors rushing to move their coins over to different exchanges.

Surprisingly this recent pump in bitcoin's price seems to be holding up just good enough to even create new ATH prices at intervals. However fees don't seem to be pumping along price as usual. Fees still revolve around 2 sats/vbyte to around 8 sats/ vbytes. And the behaviour still seems normal with fees being lowest during US midnight to early morning periods and highest during intense afternoon working hours.

What's your opinion about the fees so far?
Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?

Though as for me, I don't think I've noticed the way the market price pump has a direct implications on the mempool size thereby affecting the cost for making transaction fees, though literally as you have mentioned, when the market is highly volatile on a bullish trend, some are selling as well as some traders buying and selling theirs also, which may triggers the little congestion of the mempool for a while, I think this should only be a rare and insignificant impact over the cost on transaction fee.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Findingnemo on November 08, 2024, 08:08:46 PM
The key point is not every time and recently ordinals spammers caused the fee on network to rise unexpected but after that phase the fee just holding up in the nominal range constantly with very small spikes here and there.

Also we hit New ATH, it's not an unexpected one especially after Trump wins so people predicted the outcome even earlier of the results day and moved coins to avoid unnecessary spendings on fee because they learnt the lesson from past.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Tribalchief on November 08, 2024, 08:22:38 PM
What's your opinion about the fees so far?
Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?

Should we say that they are scared?, well i don't think so. I guess everyone prefers to exercise some form of patience because bitcoin still has some new price discoveries to offer, and maybe most investors are probably waiting for a $100K price because that has been a major speculation for long.

The Trump's effect is still very much in action, and i believe no one would want to make any mistake towards the closing of the year.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: robelneo on November 09, 2024, 03:20:29 PM

Surprisingly this recent pump in bitcoin's price seems to be holding up just good enough to even create new ATH prices at intervals. However fees don't seem to be pumping along price as usual. Fees still revolve around 2 sats/vbyte to around 8 sats/ vbytes. And the behaviour still seems normal with fees being lowest during US midnight to early morning periods and highest during intense afternoon working hours.

What's your opinion about the fees so far?
Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?

I just made a transaction today and have been doing for the past two weeks and there have been no changes on the transaction fees; its still 2 to 5 sats I expected a pump when there's a price increase but it did not, I'm glad it did not, as I have many transactions to complete for a whole month.
I guess it has something to do with the prevailing market condition of HODLING because of Trump's winning the election, which promises something great in the price when he sits in the White House. This is only my assumption, but there could be other reasons.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Themepen on November 09, 2024, 04:10:03 PM
Usually Bitcoin fees go up when prices rise quickly. But recently prices went up and fees stayed steady between 2-8 sats/vbyte. This is unusual and has people wondering why. Maybe investors are hesitant to move their coins thinking prices will rise more. Or perhaps people are feeling calmer about market so there is less panic selling. New technologies like Lightning Network or better wallet management might also be helping. Fees still follow usual pattern lower at night and higher during busy afternoon hours. Everyone is curious about why fees are not rising like usual.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Faisal2202 on November 09, 2024, 05:18:01 PM
What's your opinion about the fees so far?
Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?
I have the same thoughts, and congestion on the BTC blockchain is not only caused by panic investors trying to move their funds to exchanges in the hope of selling their holdings, but the network is congested because people are selling and buying both. Pumps in the market always attract thousands of new investors and cause old investors to sell both.

Although the fees are normal, nothing new, but yeah for small vendors or investors like me the fee is really annoying but what can be done now?
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: dkbit98 on November 09, 2024, 07:37:07 PM
I like the the fees right now and I think that there are less meme crap than usual, that is why we have this state of mempool.
It is better to consolidate coins now and be ready for the next big change of price, either up or down, because this low fees won't last for much longer.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Madmax789 on November 10, 2024, 08:10:49 PM
Bitcoin transaction fees have seen some volatility recently, with notable increases triggered by surges in network activity and specific events. For example, on November 9, 2024, average fees were around $1.76, up significantly from prior levels in early November, where they ranged from about $0.80 to $1.20. This spike is partly due to continued high interest in Bitcoin following its price rally toward $77,000.Moreover, a major contributing factor to fee volatility this year has been unusual events like Bitcoin's 840,000th block. During that event, competition for space in the block drove fees up significantly, creating a residual effect on wallet fee-setting algorithms. These algorithms now sometimes overestimate fees due to the heightened averages, resulting in sustained elevated fees as wallets engage in a bidding competition for priority processing.
If you’re aiming to avoid high fees, it’s helpful to avoid peak times, use wallets that allow customized fee settings, or consider batching transactions when possible.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: TomPluz on November 12, 2024, 04:43:01 AM

What's your opinion about the fees so far? Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?


Yesterday, I saw that Bitcoin is really going beyond the $85K level and I thought that transfer fees would skyrocket just like in the past...am so surprised that there seems to be no remarkable spike on this front. The fees are just fine for me and you. This seems odd but a big good news to all of us though am not yet transferring my small hoard of BTC to exchanges as I am looking forward that Bitcoin can still go over the $100K goal. now, that can be the biggest reason why holders are remaining to be silent and not getting the weak hands to let go of their BTC. They are looking to see more and more upward rise into January when Trump will officially start his MAGA reign. Hail to the KINGS - Bitcoin and Trump (just kidding!).


Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: libert19 on November 12, 2024, 05:49:35 AM
I found this surprising too. Yesterday, I made a transfer to sell some BTC, and paid about $2 high priority fee, transaction was confirmed under 5 minutes, and I was like— this is beautiful, stay like this.

This could possibly because pump has just started and people are not transferring just yet.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: taufik123 on November 15, 2024, 09:35:34 AM
I like the the fees right now and I think that there are less meme crap than usual, that is why we have this state of mempool.
It is better to consolidate coins now and be ready for the next big change of price, either up or down, because this low fees won't last for much longer.
These low fees are like discounts that will eventually rise again with very dense mempool activity with memecoins on Ordinal and rune protocols. But before the Bitcoin Layer 2 memecoin hype again, I started moving some assets to my personal wallet so that I wouldn't be stuck with the ever-higher fees.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Blaze on November 15, 2024, 09:48:19 AM
I found this surprising too. Yesterday, I made a transfer to sell some BTC, and paid about $2 high priority fee, transaction was confirmed under 5 minutes, and I was like— this is beautiful, stay like this.

This could possibly because pump has just started and people are not transferring just yet.
We have to remember, if every transaction that has ever occurred in bitcoin is recorded of course when you see low priced transaction and fast confirmation fees, you will was surprised. Do you also recall that several minutes past the halving, the cost of bitcoin transactions rose to more than 1000sat/vB? How come when in 2021 when Bitcoin went to ATH at $69k, transactions weren’t this cheap as they are now. That is, with the costs going down some exchanges should also alter the shipping fee provisions to remain balanced.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: ABCbits on November 15, 2024, 11:16:00 AM
What's your opinion about the fees so far?

While fee rate recommendation doesn't change much when we talk about sat/VB, it feels a bit more expensive due to higher Bitcoin price.

Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?

That may be possible. But let's not forget some investor put their coin on custodial wallet or used ETF to buy Bitcoin.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Azharul on November 15, 2024, 12:23:30 PM
We know that bitcoin is one of the best profitable crypto in cryptocurrency world. We also saw that's bitcoin price is increase day by day. If we follow in cryptocurrency market we can see that bitcoin price is $87k up in this time. I also believe that in this year bitcoin price will touch $100k. So i told that it will be best opportunity for all crypto users. We also saw that's bitcoin fees also be increase in this time, so i believe that it’s not be unexpected because bitcoin price is increase in this time. But i think that within a short time bitcoin fees will be decrease.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Paragon2 on November 15, 2024, 01:07:54 PM

(https://i.imgur.com/iDeMY8U.jpeg)

Although Mempool is showing 5sat/vB here but the price of Bitcoin is increasing due to high transaction fees. The current time is so stressful for transactions that bitcoin transactions have to be done with the highest fees in bitcoin transactions. Many investors have sold their Bitcoin holdings, but it is best not to sell Bitcoin during this typically bull market.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: dkbit98 on November 16, 2024, 07:34:44 PM
We are back at 3 sat/vB and Bitcoin is over $91k, I can't believe fees are so low.
I don't think this can last much longer and either way we go from here I think fees are going to increase a lot as we are entering last days of this year.
Better consolidate and move your coins on time.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: TryNinja on November 16, 2024, 07:39:05 PM
Although Mempool is showing 5sat/vB here but the price of Bitcoin is increasing due to high transaction fees. The current time is so stressful for transactions that bitcoin transactions have to be done with the highest fees in bitcoin transactions. Many investors have sold their Bitcoin holdings, but it is best not to sell Bitcoin during this typically bull market.
"but the price of Bitcoin is increasing due to high transaction fees" what does that mean? How does high fees mean price goes up?

Anyways, kinda crazy how a "low fee" of 6 sat/byte already implies a cost of $0.75 at minimum (usually more since I always got many inputs from campaign payments). Still cheap considering how powerful BTC is and how it requires thousands of nodes and a shit ton of money in energy and eletronics.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: JISAN on November 16, 2024, 07:42:04 PM
What's your opinion about the fees so far?
Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?
i have not thought much about transaction fees to be honest since i have no plans yet to sell my bitcoins or exchange them for stablecoins there is a chance that the price will still go up but i actually do not know up to how much i am quite confident that it will not really go down too much anymore so if i lose the chance to take advantage from this ath then i wouldnt mind as much as long as it doesnt reach too low

but if the fees are not as high even when the market is like this then maybe that is a good thing and maybe congestion is not as bad as it used to be before?
It seems that gas fees have started to rise because the price of bitcoin and crypto market traffic have started to increase, this is normal because gas fee transactions are always determined by traffic and coin prices at that time. That's based on my observations so far.
I haven't made any transactions yet and am only focused on holding my bitcoins until next year.
The Bitcoin network is designed in such a way that the transaction with the highest sat/vB will be prioritized first and when there are excess transactions, everyone wants to complete their transaction faster and that's why they transact with more sat/vB.  are willing to do and that is why the transaction fee of Bitcoin normally increases a lot.  When the price of Bitcoin goes up or down a lot, the volume of transactions on the Bitcoin network increases and that's why the transaction volume is high.  But you will notice that when the price of Bitcoin is stable, its transaction fees are very low
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Crypto Library on November 16, 2024, 08:20:16 PM
"but the price of Bitcoin is increasing due to high transaction fees" what does that mean? How does high fees mean price goes up?

Anyways, kinda crazy how a "low fee" of 6 sat/byte already implies a cost of $0.75 at minimum (usually more since I always got many inputs from campaign payments). Still cheap considering how powerful BTC is and how it requires thousands of nodes and a shit ton of money in energy and eletronics.
My question is what is the reason why mempool is currently so free?
Whereas in January, the price of Bitcoin was less than half, but the size became about 564Mvb due to the large number of transactions. Where the transaction fee went up to 400-500sat/vbyte.
And currently, I don't really understand why the transaction is so low why the mempool is not congested. So what are the reasons for the increase in transactions? Does it have a specific time or market situation?

(https://i.postimg.cc/jSzSs5cd/screenshot.png)
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Mia Chloe on November 16, 2024, 09:29:39 PM
My question is what is the reason why mempool is currently so free?
Whereas in January, the price of Bitcoin was less than half, but the size became about 564Mvb due to the large number of transactions. Where the transaction fee went up to 400-500sat/vbyte.
And currently, I don't really understand why the transaction is so low why the mempool is not congested. So what are the reasons for the increase in transactions? Does it have a specific time or market situation?

(https://i.postimg.cc/jSzSs5cd/screenshot.png)
The rate of congestion in the MEMPOOL determine how much fees would look like at that point in time. Take for example when bitcoin pumped to 89k and didn't seem to cross the 90k mark, many people were kind of certain that the pump was over which did not turn out to be true. However as a result of that, fees went up a little as people were rushing to move their funds to exchanges to sell off.

Now I'll say every one is a little bit scared of selling of at this point since it seems more like bitcoin doesn't seem to be stopping the pump anytime soon. At 100k fees will likely still go up .
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: TryNinja on November 16, 2024, 11:22:22 PM
My question is what is the reason why mempool is currently so free?
Whereas in January, the price of Bitcoin was less than half, but the size became about 564Mvb due to the large number of transactions. Where the transaction fee went up to 400-500sat/vbyte.
And currently, I don't really understand why the transaction is so low why the mempool is not congested. So what are the reasons for the increase in transactions? Does it have a specific time or market situation?
Well, the easy answer is that there are fewer transactions happening, so you don't have to fight over for space on the blocks. Not sure why exactly this is the case vs other periods, though. LN hasn't gotten actually easier, so not sure if one could say this is one of the reasons.

Maybe people are just trading and buying up BTC off-chain, so price goes up but that doesn't mean there will be more txs on the chain.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: rdluffy on November 17, 2024, 10:13:05 PM
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Well, the easy answer is that there are fewer transactions happening, so you don't have to fight over for space on the blocks. Not sure why exactly this is the case vs other periods, though. LN hasn't gotten actually easier, so not sure if one could say this is one of the reasons.

Maybe people are just trading and buying up BTC off-chain, so price goes up but that doesn't mean there will be more txs on the chain.

In my opinion, there's more institutional money right now

So we can assume that there are fewer transactions, but with greater value
Fewer people transacting, and more companies or entities with a lot of money

The fact that there's nothing running on the network also helps hehehe
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: dwyane36 on November 18, 2024, 03:36:07 AM
My question is what is the reason why mempool is currently so free?
Whereas in January, the price of Bitcoin was less than half, but the size became about 564Mvb due to the large number of transactions. Where the transaction fee went up to 400-500sat/vbyte.
And currently, I don't really understand why the transaction is so low why the mempool is not congested. So what are the reasons for the increase in transactions? Does it have a specific time or market situation?

The reasons for the spikes in activity and fees on the Bitcoin network were due to various spam transactions. For example, in January, BRC-20 tokens were popular, and at the peak of activity, the number of such transactions reached 75% of the total number of transactions in the Bitcoin network during that period. After that, the activity spikes in April, May, and June were due to runes transactions, and the number of such transactions at the peak was 81%, 64%, and 61%, respectively.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: bayu7adi on November 18, 2024, 07:20:14 AM
After checking the latest fee on the mempool website for bitcoin transactions, it is still at 10sat/vB... then my logic got this

Bitcoin transactions are not so dense because maybe ordinal is sluggish, there is no fee fight because buying and selling transactions are more dominant on CEX which will probably only happen internally... maybe you think that many people will start transacting their bitcoins to sell them on the exchange, but in reality the spam on the ordinal network is more terrible than this bullish moment regarding the existing fee changes.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: ABCbits on November 18, 2024, 12:12:16 PM
My question is what is the reason why mempool is currently so free?
Whereas in January, the price of Bitcoin was less than half, but the size became about 564Mvb due to the large number of transactions. Where the transaction fee went up to 400-500sat/vbyte.
And currently, I don't really understand why the transaction is so low why the mempool is not congested. So what are the reasons for the increase in transactions? Does it have a specific time or market situation?

As reminder, this January is also when Ordinal starts gaining it's popularity.

--snip--
Maybe people are just trading and buying up BTC off-chain, so price goes up but that doesn't mean there will be more txs on the chain.

I agree. Some newer investor/buyer use ETF rather than buying on exchange and withdraw to their wallet.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Mate2237 on November 19, 2024, 04:02:06 PM
 Yes if when I started the journey, the mempool was free but when it came to the bear market in 2022, the mempool space was congested and the fee was very high. And when the price of bitcoin reached $20k and above then the transaction fee became low again until when the bull run started in the month of match and April 2024 then the transaction fee was something else at of that time but it is really a surprising to me as well when the fee is low now that it is the All Time High. And this is how it should be and if it is possible, it should still reduce more.

We are still expecting to hit $100k before the end of the year or the first quarter next year is the $100k expectation.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Bobcrypto on November 19, 2024, 05:50:36 PM
Bitcoin transactions fees since last the one month is great, it is amazing at this current bull run for a low fees experiences. I hope that this trends may continue in the new year to encourage more buyers,
The current low fees is my first experience seeing a bullish market on a fascinating low transactions fees, it surely boost new investors, traders, holders  to add more BTC to their wallet.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: satpol_PP on November 19, 2024, 09:11:30 PM
Bitcoin transactions fees since last the one month is great, it is amazing at this current bull run for a low fees experiences. I hope that this trends may continue in the new year to encourage more buyers,
The current low fees is my first experience seeing a bullish market on a fascinating low transactions fees, it surely boost new investors, traders, holders  to add more BTC to their wallet.
If the cost remains low even though the market is moving up and this will last until next year of course it will be very good for us crypto lovers. because with a low gas fee we can make transactions without feeling burdened by the gas fee like before. but will this last long?
Because usually when traffic is high, the gas fee will increase. but we don't need to worry there are many network options that we can choose from.
Currently we can choose Solana, BSC, TON, TRX and others. so the more network options make it easier for users to choose the network they want with lower gas fees.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: dkbit98 on November 19, 2024, 11:13:23 PM
Well, the easy answer is that there are fewer transactions happening, so you don't have to fight over for space on the blocks. Not sure why exactly this is the case vs other periods, though. LN hasn't gotten actually easier, so not sure if one could say this is one of the reasons.
I think most people are not moving their coins and they are waiting to see how high price can go.
All this companies and rich individuals investing and buying bitcoin are not buying coins with onchain transactions, instead they are using third party custodians.
I noticed the trend for more people to use Monero for transactions and Bitcoin only for holding.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Kemarit on November 19, 2024, 11:26:48 PM
Bitcoin transactions fees since last the one month is great, it is amazing at this current bull run for a low fees experiences. I hope that this trends may continue in the new year to encourage more buyers,
The current low fees is my first experience seeing a bullish market on a fascinating low transactions fees, it surely boost new investors, traders, holders  to add more BTC to their wallet.

The fees is also very inconsistent, right now it's big, 20 sat/vB. So you really have to time the market and see where the fees are. The price of Bitcoin is still at $92,000, so just imagine if we hit that 6 digits that we want.

So you can never know if we will still have lows fees once we hit $100,000 or it will go up coincide with the recent spike in the price. And I do not think that investors are selling at this point, for us, it's better to just continue to HODL and see how big this bull run will be.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: bayu7adi on November 20, 2024, 01:58:13 AM
Bitcoin transactions fees since last the one month is great, it is amazing at this current bull run for a low fees experiences. I hope that this trends may continue in the new year to encourage more buyers,
The current low fees is my first experience seeing a bullish market on a fascinating low transactions fees, it surely boost new investors, traders, holders  to add more BTC to their wallet.
unfortunately, it also drives a lot of selling transactions too... when there was a dust attack from the ordinal network, I never transferred my BTC to an exchange to sell... if that happened to you until today, I definitely wouldn't sell it either when the bitcoin price was $80k and $85k... the profit I got was probably 5%-10% more than yesterday...

the point is I'm still grateful because I'm still in a lucky condition... cheap transaction fees, of course a good signal for p2p transactions to be more alive, and overall it's not bad for me if I see it being adopted more widely.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: SamReomo on November 20, 2024, 02:33:42 AM
What's your opinion about the fees so far?
As far as I understand, the investors are willing to hold their investment for a least a year and that's the reason why the fees aren't going high. However, as we all know that new transactions are taking place each day and that's the reason why fees have gone high a little bit.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: TomPluz on November 20, 2024, 05:02:05 AM


Majority of the people who got some Bitcoin are not moving their assets to any exchange and that contributes a lot why there seems to be no major congestion even when BTC price is already in the $90K zone. now, this might change a lot when Bitcoin can be able to reach the $100K level as there might be a big number of people that may convert their BTC to cash or other digital assets. But then let's see...because there is also a big possibility that holders may look at $150K as their future threshold for moving their BTC. As we are heading the end of 2024 and looking excited of what can be in 2025 with the new Trump administration coming in to govern USA, there is that strong reason for the cryptocurrency to be bullish.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on November 20, 2024, 10:13:37 AM
As far as I understand, the investors are willing to hold their investment for a least a year and that's the reason why the fees aren't going high. However, as we all know that new transactions are taking place each day and that's the reason why fees have gone high a little bit.
I have not seen those ordinals are messing around the chain so far. As soon as they will start messing around, we will see huge congestion. I have not followed the progress too so not sure what's going with these ordinals.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: bitbit97 on November 20, 2024, 10:22:30 AM
The fees is also very inconsistent, right now it's big, 20 sat/vB. So you really have to time the market and see where the fees are. The price of Bitcoin is still at $92,000, so just imagine if we hit that 6 digits that we want.

So you can never know if we will still have lows fees once we hit $100,000 or it will go up coincide with the recent spike in the price. And I do not think that investors are selling at this point, for us, it's better to just continue to HODL and see how big this bull run will be.

I would say that fees are still low or affordable. It is still possible to make a quick small transaction and it ruin nobody. I think in late spring or summer we had weeks when it cost +100sat/vb to make a transaction and it wasnt even an instant one. By the look on current situation with fees, I dont even know what to say. It will be logical, that with such rapid price growth, more people would wish to buy, sell or move their crypto. It will be logical, when there is demand, transaction prices to go up. But they still are low. During busiest part of the day, 10-20sat/vb is maximum what we get. Yesterday at late evening, I have made a transaction with 5sat/vb and it was confirmed in less than an hour.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: robelneo on November 21, 2024, 09:22:23 PM
During busiest part of the day, 10-20sat/vb is maximum what we get. Yesterday at late evening, I have made a transaction with 5sat/vb and it was confirmed in less than an hour.

As I'm writing this post, the low priority is 7 and the high priority is 9, still good; that means there is no high buying or selling pressure, but I expect these transaction fees to increase this coming holiday season, and this is something we should all watch out for. I remember this was the time that I waited for a week for the price to go down, but it did not happen and I ended up spending $20 for a $100 transaction, which left me no choice but to proceed.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Primo1760 on November 21, 2024, 09:48:51 PM
Majority of the time, bitcoin fees usually go up when FOMO is high in the market. for those that transact constantly with bitcoin you must have noticed that after every big push in bitcoin price before now would definitely cause the MEMPOOL to get congested and as a result fees would also skyrocket. The reason for the congestion is usually because of majority of scared investors rushing to move their coins over to different exchanges.

Surprisingly this recent pump in bitcoin's price seems to be holding up just good enough to even create new ATH prices at intervals. However fees don't seem to be pumping along price as usual. Fees still revolve around 2 sats/vbyte to around 8 sats/ vbytes. And the behaviour still seems normal with fees being lowest during US midnight to early morning periods and highest during intense afternoon working hours.

What's your opinion about the fees so far?
Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?
Yes we noticed that Mempool is very low at the moment. Bitcoin Price Increases People Are Not Losing Much Patience With Selling Bitcoin Now People Believe Bitcoin May Not Go Down After Hitting $100,000 Max Because Bitcoin's Momentum Has Attracted People More To Invest And Not To Sell Bitcoin. We ourselves are holding bitcoins but not thinking of selling also we have already deposited bitcoins from our bitcoin wallets to exchanges many may have bitcoins from their wallets to exchanges or those working on signature campaigns may also be using exchange wallets directly due to which bitcoins from their wallets  They are able to sell directly from exchange to exchange without having to take. All the users of bitcoin forum play a big role in crowding the transactions here.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Ujok on November 21, 2024, 09:50:29 PM
During busiest part of the day, 10-20sat/vb is maximum what we get. Yesterday at late evening, I have made a transaction with 5sat/vb and it was confirmed in less than an hour.

As I'm writing this post, the low priority is 7 and the high priority is 9, still good; that means there is no high buying or selling pressure, but I expect these transaction fees to increase this coming holiday season, and this is something we should all watch out for. I remember this was the time that I waited for a week for the price to go down, but it did not happen and I ended up spending $20 for a $100 transaction, which left me no choice but to proceed.
since bitcoin hit the price of $80k and above, transaction costs have increased by 10% unlike usual when the price of bitcoin was still below $80k the transaction cost was only 1% this made many people complain about the increase in transaction costs.. why did the transaction cost increase? because the transaction density so that the transaction was increased then the process would be fast, if the transaction cost remains as usual, the transaction process is likely to be slow. maybe that's what I know in this case and that's also part of people saying like that too.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: doc on November 21, 2024, 10:49:43 PM
During busiest part of the day, 10-20sat/vb is maximum what we get. Yesterday at late evening, I have made a transaction with 5sat/vb and it was confirmed in less than an hour.

As I'm writing this post, the low priority is 7 and the high priority is 9, still good; that means there is no high buying or selling pressure, but I expect these transaction fees to increase this coming holiday season, and this is something we should all watch out for. I remember this was the time that I waited for a week for the price to go down, but it did not happen and I ended up spending $20 for a $100 transaction, which left me no choice but to proceed.
since bitcoin hit the price of $80k and above, transaction costs have increased by 10% unlike usual when the price of bitcoin was still below $80k the transaction cost was only 1% this made many people complain about the increase in transaction costs.. why did the transaction cost increase? because the transaction density so that the transaction was increased then the process would be fast, if the transaction cost remains as usual, the transaction process is likely to be slow. maybe that's what I know in this case and that's also part of people saying like that too.

traffic and price always affect gas fee, the higher the price and traffic will make the gas fee expensive. And currently the transaction volume is very high and we also know that the price of bitcoin is very expensive at this time because it has touched $ 98K, so it is natural that the gas fee is very high.
There are many network options that we can use, we should be able to choose a cheaper network
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: bitmover on November 21, 2024, 11:23:05 PM
Transaction fees are fine...

It costs now less than 1.50 USD to transfer money anywhere in the world, permitionless, without request permission to anyone. Arriving in 10 minutes.

Bitcoin is amazing. Fees are just fine!!

(https://bitcoindata.science/api/bitcoinfees.php?&currency=USD&hex=000000) (https://bitcoindata.science/bitcointalk-api.html#bitcoin-fees)
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Stompix on November 22, 2024, 06:59:38 PM
Could it be investors are scared of moving coins since price may continue to pump?

Real-life usage is down the drain, that's all!

Look around at all the topics, do you spend your coins? do you regret spending your coins? spend fiat not coins! and so on and on and on!
Simply put, fewer and fewer are actually using it as a method of payment, half of the space is clogged by runes and other inscriptions and most of the rest is just excuses batching their payments and receiving coins, the rule of the thumb is now that you don't spend stuff that can x2 overnight!   ;)

Transaction fees are fine...
It costs now less than 1.50 USD to transfer money anywhere in the world, permitionless, without request permission to anyone. Arriving in 10 minutes.

Yup, because nobody is doing it!
The moment you would have 0.1% of the population actually using it it would cost you x10 more, don't forget that in order to actually use the money you send you need another tx and you need yourself another tx to buy them, so that's like one-third of the capacity.

Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: MRY on November 23, 2024, 06:03:23 PM
traffic and price always affect gas fee, the higher the price and traffic will make the gas fee expensive. And currently the transaction volume is very high and we also know that the price of bitcoin is very expensive at this time because it has touched $98K, so it is natural that the gas fee is very high.
There are many network options that we can use, we should be able to choose a cheaper network
High gas costs are a result of higher transaction activity, particularly when Bitcoin demand soars as observations in the mempool show. The current sharp rise in exchange rates has had no effect on the price of expensive gas.

We can lower the cost by using alternative networks that provide speed and low costs. So that transaction activities can still go on smoothly without incurring huge expense, innovations such as layer-2 or some other more efficient blockchain may be the practical solution.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: enwi on November 25, 2024, 08:00:04 PM
traffic and price always affect gas fee, the higher the price and traffic will make the gas fee expensive. And currently the transaction volume is very high and we also know that the price of bitcoin is very expensive at this time because it has touched $98K, so it is natural that the gas fee is very high.
There are many network options that we can use, we should be able to choose a cheaper network
High gas costs are a result of higher transaction activity, particularly when Bitcoin demand soars as observations in the mempool show. The current sharp rise in exchange rates has had no effect on the price of expensive gas.

We can lower the cost by using alternative networks that provide speed and low costs. So that transaction activities can still go on smoothly without incurring huge expense, innovations such as layer-2 or some other more efficient blockchain may be the practical solution.
When demand is high, gas fees have been too high of barrier for Bitcoin users. To still have transactions run smoothly without the burden of too much fees while looking for other alternatives using other altcoins or other blockchains than within the existing networks that have high speeds and also low fees. While the fee of an average Bitcoin transaction is $1.97 today, compared with $3.10 that it was yesterday. The decrease here is on par with the decrease in transaction activity on the network, but the mempool continues to log a bunch of transactions queued. Fees rise when the mempool is full, as users fight among themselves to be included in the next block, but there's still some leeway compared to previous peaks.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: dkbit98 on December 06, 2024, 12:50:00 PM
Bitcoin is around $100k but fees are still holding fine and mempool is not that full, and I am a bit surprised with this.
Mempool.space is showing average fees of 8 sat/vB ot around $1.10 with current bitcoin price, that is acceptable for everyone.

When demand is high, gas fees have been too high of barrier for Bitcoin users.previous peaks.
There are NO gas fees in Bitcoin, that is only for ethereum and similar forks.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: rdluffy on December 06, 2024, 01:18:30 PM
Bitcoin is around $100k but fees are still holding fine and mempool is not that full, and I am a bit surprised with this.
Mempool.space is showing average fees of 8 sat/vB ot around $1.10 with current bitcoin price, that is acceptable for everyone.

Yesterday I made 2 txs
1 paying 4 sat/vb and another one paying 6 sat/vb

I remember a few years ago when it was quite difficult to make a transaction like this when BTC was on the rise or highly volatile
These low and stable fees are also good to show those who are just starting to invest in BTC, without the madness of paying more than 10 dollars for a transaction.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: dkbit98 on December 09, 2024, 08:12:29 PM
Yesterday I made 2 txs
1 paying 4 sat/vb and another one paying 6 sat/vb
Yeah, fees are around 5 sat/vb now, and things are going smooth in mempool.

I remember a few years ago when it was quite difficult to make a transaction like this when BTC was on the rise or highly volatile
We had a bunch of attacks and different things happening on bitcoin back than, but this could happen again in future.
I would still suggest everyone to be ready for any changes, and better consolidate coins while you can.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: _act_ on December 09, 2024, 09:56:01 PM
Majority of the time, bitcoin fees usually go up when FOMO is high in the market. for those that transact constantly with bitcoin you must have noticed that after every big push in bitcoin price before now would definitely cause the MEMPOOL to get congested and as a result fees would also skyrocket. The reason for the congestion is usually because of majority of scared investors rushing to move their coins over to different exchanges.

You're right, in some cases, the event of the news activities cause the mempool to get congested because people begin to sell or buy as the market is uncertain to them by the even of the breaking news, some news could be positive while some could be negative and such could have the same influence, but it could also happens that the market do not pump and we are having the mempool busy thereby causing the increase in transaction fee.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: Bobcrypto on December 09, 2024, 10:14:57 PM
Bitcoin transactions fees last week was very high, but it suddenly went low this week, I was charged around $1.2 to transfer $43 worth of Bitcoin from my wallet to exchanges. I think that as many people had observed, high transactions traffic, congestions could be some of the reason for higher fees charge at certain times.
However, Bitcoin fees is still pocket friendly, despite the current bull run.
Title: Re: Bitcoin fees since the recent pump.
Post by: MRY on December 10, 2024, 10:37:39 PM
You're right, in some cases, the event of the news activities cause the mempool to get congested because people begin to sell or buy as the market is uncertain to them by the even of the breaking news, some news could be positive while some could be negative and such could have the same influence, but it could also happens that the market do not pump and we are having the mempool busy thereby causing the increase in transaction fee.
It was found that future movements can be a little volatile and when there is a huge pull from news events. In like circumstance, we can either choose to remain cool or else chart out our strategy well on how to handle the situation better. If the transaction fee rises to an undesirable level while carrying out the transaction, then we are still able to switch to another network, or more preferably wait until the transaction fees come down. Whether these movements are stocks, bonds, commodities or any other form of investment, every given choice we make should be an opportunity to learn how better to prepare for the next change in the marketplace.

Bitcoin transactions fees last week was very high, but it suddenly went low this week, I was charged around $1.2 to transfer $43 worth of Bitcoin from my wallet to exchanges. I think that as many people had observed, high transactions traffic, congestions could be some of the reason for higher fees charge at certain times.
However, Bitcoin fees is still pocket friendly, despite the current bull run.
As we can observe Bitcoin transaction fees may fluctuate but these fees are convenient to many users since the rate and speed of transferring assets is easily achieved. While it is indeed important to address, on-going fluctuation in any market dictates that these fees rise and fall with market dynamism. It also proves the fact that network can work as per the existed load to cope with that much load. By using this technology further, we contribute to the better environment that is beneficial for all the participants. Up to the present, the ability to pay a low fee is still one of the advantages of Bitcoin as a currency.