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Title: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: laijsica on December 06, 2024, 12:54:18 PM
The war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on for more than 1000 days and both sides are spending a lot of money on it and as a result, innocent people are losing their lives and fighters are being killed. In fact, war does not bring any benefit to humanity, yet the world is trying to find a solution through mutual war.
NATO is constantly providing financial and military assistance to Ukraine and Russia is demonstrating its strength with a single effort and is suffering a lot financially and militarily by waging a long-term war.

If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: Findingnemo on December 06, 2024, 05:43:43 PM
If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?
Then it will be the beginning of the apocalypse, and we are almost reaching that point when governments like US and other countries are forcing Russia to keep on going with this war for a very long time. I don't want to take any sides on this one but I just want them to end somehow for the better future of this world or we might not have anything left to fight for.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: 0t3p0t on December 06, 2024, 06:59:21 PM
Well despite the disappointment from Russias side I think they don't want nuclear winter either and no one can afford that maybe those are just intimidation tools. We all know superpowers most of them has nuclear bombs but I don't think for just a stupid emotional decision to launch that thing won't kill their own family, friends and relatives and if that is what they wanted then they are coward, greed and hypocrite.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: Rruchi man on December 06, 2024, 11:12:34 PM
If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?
Political discussions are usually delicate ones, and I am a part of those who are full advocates for peace. I don't want the situation to progress to a stage where nuclear warheads or any other dangerous weapons are used. The deaths will continue, of both adults and children. It is an entirely horrific experience for people in these regions—not something you would want to experience.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: Zed0X on December 07, 2024, 01:32:54 PM
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If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?
I remember our former President once said that it's goodbye if nuclear missiles will be launched. Unless some people can escape to their bunkers and hope that it's deep enough to protect them, then forget about everything as mankind could be over in an instant. It's going to have a domino effect once the first nuclear missile is out.

We'll see if Trump can do a better job at bringing 'peace' to that region.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: Agbe on December 07, 2024, 04:32:08 PM
The war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on for more than 1000 days and both sides are spending a lot of money on it and as a result, innocent people are losing their lives and fighters are being killed. In fact, war does not bring any benefit to humanity, yet the world is trying to find a solution through mutual war.
NATO is constantly providing financial and military assistance to Ukraine and Russia is demonstrating its strength with a single effort and is suffering a lot financially and militarily by waging a long-term war.

If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?
War is not a good thing for anyone to engage in as both parties involved loses and in this Russia and Ukraine war the both sides of been eager to continue fighting without any compromise but as the war continue there has been strong insinuation about Russia trying to use nuclear weapons in the ongoing war, but it's unfortunate that the world is actually going this way because after the Hiroshima experience at the world must have learned something from there because till today Japan has not not really recovered from the experience so both Russia and Ukraine should be careful with the way they go about this war because non of them can actually stand the devastating effect of nuclear weapons it will be devastating for any country that nuclear weapons will be released into . With the way things are going I can say Both if them have nuclear weapons at their possession ready to release it
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: 0t3p0t on December 07, 2024, 04:48:02 PM
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If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?
I remember our former President once said that it's goodbye if nuclear missiles will be launched. Unless some people can escape to their bunkers and hope that it's deep enough to protect them, then forget about everything as mankind could be over in an instant. It's going to have a domino effect once the first nuclear missile is out.

We'll see if Trump can do a better job at bringing 'peace' to that region.
I believe Trump can because tough leaders around the world trust him than anyone around. Trump is badass because he means what he says nothing more nothing less. He knew things better than anyone and he is literally for the people. He prefer peace rather than war that is what the enemies are afraid of him just don't get him mad.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: bitterguy28 on December 07, 2024, 05:16:38 PM
If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?
well first of all let’s hope not

but if ever the results will be both immediate and long lasting because if russia use nuclear weapons, it can and will destroy an entire city most likely many lives would be taken away and many would be injured i say that the effects would be long lasting because harmful particles will still be present long after the attack

this would be concerning for the entire world and would most likely trigger a ww3 as other countries would bring their walls up and start making actions i think global organizations both political and humanitarian will try to stop russia or get them responsible and hold them accountable

economically it will be very bad and global trades would most likely drop
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: EluguHcman on December 08, 2024, 11:33:02 AM
OP you have really made s tough thoughtful point here. As obvious as it is, Russia is not ready to give up with the war because they believe Ukraine is meant to surrender to them and NATO is there giving supports to the Ukraine which is giving Ukraine more provisions to standout for the war like it is benefiting its citizens but they are all wasting resources and cutting of innocent lives.

So let us think about this tough thought, what if Russians are running out of funds as no one giving them supports, don't we think it is possible of them launching the nuclear weapons to end it all? Because I don't see the Russian president as one surrendering soon.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: yhiaali3 on December 08, 2024, 04:25:48 PM
The Russian-Ukrainian war has been going on for a long time, the West and the United States are trying to exhaust Russia by prolonging the war for the longest period.

Russia knows this, but I do not think that Putin is stupid enough to give the decision to use nuclear weapons, because this will lead to the destruction of the world, including Russia, because the United States and the West will respond to the nuclear strike with another strike against Russia, and this could cause the destruction of the world.

We hope that the leaders will be rational and spare the world a devastating nuclear war and that peace and security will prevail in the whole world.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: Sim_card on December 08, 2024, 04:45:06 PM
Nuclear bomb is game over and it will affect the entire world. Only Russia and Ukraine are in this war and there are innocent people in different countries in which some of them are assisting in medical and food so using nuclear bomb means Russia is ready to be wiped out from the earth, because it will become a third world war.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: 0t3p0t on December 08, 2024, 06:33:53 PM
Nuclear bomb is game over and it will affect the entire world. Only Russia and Ukraine are in this war and there are innocent people in different countries in which some of them are assisting in medical and food so using nuclear bomb means Russia is ready to be wiped out from the earth, because it will become a third world war.
If they really are interested in war they might just use the conventional one nothing else that would be fair because nuclear would not just affect Ukraine or other specific enemy but also it will anger neighboring countries and that would result in nuclear winter which maybe all of us don't like. Earth will be destroyed just because of someones stupidity it is not acceptable that is why aliens won't pay a visit anymore. Jk! 😅
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: electronicash on December 08, 2024, 07:13:02 PM
If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?

i don't think they need a nuke. they are winning.

Nuclear bomb is game over and it will affect the entire world. Only Russia and Ukraine are in this war and there are innocent people in different countries in which some of them are assisting in medical and food so using nuclear bomb means Russia is ready to be wiped out from the earth, because it will become a third world war.
If they really are interested in war they might just use the conventional one nothing else that would be fair because nuclear would not just affect Ukraine or other specific enemy but also it will anger neighboring countries and that would result in nuclear winter which maybe all of us don't like. Earth will be destroyed just because of someones stupidity it is not acceptable that is why aliens won't pay a visit anymore. Jk! 😅

nope its not just Ukraine and Russia. they know US is part of it.  SEC Blinken of US even ask the Ukrainian government to lower the age of the soldiers to be conscripted. this only means the Ukrainian government follow what US says. if the SEC Blinken says fight til you turn to ashes, the Ukrainian government can't do nothing but says YES. no independence for this country.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: Stompix on December 08, 2024, 07:35:57 PM
i don't think they need a nuke. they are winning.

Yeah 3 days to Kiyv, definitely winning!

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Russian central bank seen hiking key rate to 23% on Dec. 20
Russia’s ruble is still worth less than a penny
Inflation expected to end 2024 at 9%

That's what a victory looks like, inflation 4 times that of Europe, Interest rates 6 times, and your currency collapsing 3x times versus others.
All for what? Keeping Ukraine out of Nato? Good, that stupid move made Finland and Norway join Nato!

They lost Armernia, they are losing the influence in Georgia, they got hunted like dogs in Syria, and they need to beg North Korea for ammo and soldiers, that's definitely winning1

Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: electronicash on December 09, 2024, 06:24:07 PM

ain't Syria like Afghanistan who the US lost?  those countries mean nothing to all these big countries. 20 years but done nothing.

but they can't get Russia. and aren't they in Kyiv?  I don't see US troop in Kyiv. they'd be wiped out if they're there. weasels aren't going there, they can only go to Syria. i don't see Ukraine getting any part of their land that Russia took. the people even want Russia to take them.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: Stompix on December 09, 2024, 07:10:47 PM
but they can't get Russia. and aren't they in Kyiv?  I don't see US troop in Kyiv. they'd be wiped out if they're there. weasels aren't going there, they can only go to Syria. i don't see Ukraine getting any part of their land that Russia took. the people even want Russia to take them.

Go and take some medicine!
So the Russians swiped out the US troops from Kyiv but somehow have never been able to reach the city, so they teleported there, killed all Americans then teleported back but because of an error, they ended up in their graveyard, lol!

But keep on winning like this, everyone enjoys it!
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: electronicash on December 09, 2024, 07:37:33 PM
but they can't get Russia. and aren't they in Kyiv?  I don't see US troop in Kyiv. they'd be wiped out if they're there. weasels aren't going there, they can only go to Syria. i don't see Ukraine getting any part of their land that Russia took. the people even want Russia to take them.

Go and take some medicine!
So the Russians swiped out the US troops from Kyiv but somehow have never been able to reach the city, so they teleported there, killed all Americans then teleported back but because of an error, they ended up in their graveyard, lol!

But keep on winning like this, everyone enjoys it!

I bet they never reach Kyiv lol US troops only good for Afghans. they have to keep up all these Alien invasion news. they're the ones eager to use the nukes after all they have done this horrible bombing before.

they have to hurry otherwise all these wars will be just a waste once Trump stops these all. i'm surprise they haven't tried China yet. they have surrounded Taiwan already to which US considered the most precious.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 09, 2024, 08:49:50 PM
If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?
Whatever that will amount to Israel's using of nuclear weapons against Ukraine I pray it shouldn't happen because it will result in catastrophic consequences for the world causing trade disruptions that will lead to a shortage of goods and services, market instability that will trigger a global economic meltdown, with the market experiencing extreme volatility and crashes.

The use of nuclear weapons could escalate to larger wars because countries that are not in support of the use of nuclear weapons would use the opportunity to retaliate by making use of their nuclear weapons against the country they are not in support with
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: rachael9385 on December 10, 2024, 07:41:16 AM
From my own research I made concerning the NATO they are intergovernmental organizations made up of 32 countries with 30 European countries and 2 North America countries and they are members that protect each other against any forms of threat, then I went further to research the list of these 32 countries but neither found the Russians nor the Ukrainians in the list so why did I go this far in research cause I wanted to know why NATO would be supplying support with countries fighting war and they are European countries and as a result of it suffering financially and militarily in cause of their support. So why can't they just make a decision to call these two countries and settle their dispute at once or are they encouraging the war?
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: DrBeer on December 12, 2024, 09:43:22 AM
The war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on for more than 1000 days and both sides are spending a lot of money on it and as a result, innocent people are losing their lives and fighters are being killed. In fact, war does not bring any benefit to humanity, yet the world is trying to find a solution through mutual war.
NATO is constantly providing financial and military assistance to Ukraine and Russia is demonstrating its strength with a single effort and is suffering a lot financially and militarily by waging a long-term war.

If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?


As a direct participant of the events (I am a citizen of Ukraine) I will slightly correct your introduction:
This is not a war between Ukraine and Russia, it is a terrorist attack by Russia on Ukraine. It did not start in 2022, but in 2014 after the invasion of Ukraine by the terrorist country. In 2022 Putin seeing impunity and lack of response from the west decided to “end Ukraine for good”. But. Ukraine became an “aspen stake” for Rashism.
Putin, realizing that he is losing the conventional war in Ukraine, realizing that there is no “great Russia”, no “second army of the world”, no “weapons that have no analogues”, decided to threaten a non-nuclear country with nuclear weapons! But we know the behavior of this “gopnik from St. Petersburg back alley”. He has drawn “red lines” 100500 times, which then turned from “red lines” into a brown bad smelling trail of Putin crawling away :)
Yes, he knows how to scare, but he is not an idiot and understands perfectly well that by starting a nuclear war, he will be destroyed and all his castles, yachts and other assets stolen from Russia will turn to dust.... And like all dictators, Putin is cowardly and wants to live. He and his tame dogs like Medvedev promise to “launch a nuclear strike on the EU and the USA”, i.e. on their children, wives, mistresses, who have long lived in the EU and the USA and not in the collapsing Russia ! :)

The only real threat I see is the transfer of nuclear technology to such countries as North Korea and Iran, which most likely has already happened, when Putin humiliatingly begged them for missiles and “Shaheds” for the “second army of the world”.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: electronicash on December 12, 2024, 05:45:58 PM
The war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on for more than 1000 days and both sides are spending a lot of money on it and as a result, innocent people are losing their lives and fighters are being killed. In fact, war does not bring any benefit to humanity, yet the world is trying to find a solution through mutual war.
NATO is constantly providing financial and military assistance to Ukraine and Russia is demonstrating its strength with a single effort and is suffering a lot financially and militarily by waging a long-term war.

If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?


As a direct participant of the events (I am a citizen of Ukraine) I will slightly correct your introduction:
This is not a war between Ukraine and Russia, it is a terrorist attack by Russia on Ukraine. It did not start in 2022, but in 2014 after the invasion of Ukraine by the terrorist country. In 2022 Putin seeing impunity and lack of response from the west decided to “end Ukraine for good”. But. Ukraine became an “aspen stake” for Rashism.
Putin, realizing that he is losing the conventional war in Ukraine, realizing that there is no “great Russia”, no “second army of the world”, no “weapons that have no analogues”, decided to threaten a non-nuclear country with nuclear weapons! But we know the behavior of this “gopnik from St. Petersburg back alley”. He has drawn “red lines” 100500 times, which then turned from “red lines” into a brown bad smelling trail of Putin crawling away :)
Yes, he knows how to scare, but he is not an idiot and understands perfectly well that by starting a nuclear war, he will be destroyed and all his castles, yachts and other assets stolen from Russia will turn to dust.... And like all dictators, Putin is cowardly and wants to live. He and his tame dogs like Medvedev promise to “launch a nuclear strike on the EU and the USA”, i.e. on their children, wives, mistresses, who have long lived in the EU and the USA and not in the collapsing Russia ! :)

The only real threat I see is the transfer of nuclear technology to such countries as North Korea and Iran, which most likely has already happened, when Putin humiliatingly begged them for missiles and “Shaheds” for the “second army of the world”.

you keep pushing your own truth when its all lies. before the war started the world knows Ukraine is not  democracy and they have been terrorizing Luhansk and Donbas region where people were asking Russia to protect them.

Russia warned them and they didn't stop but instead invite NATO.  they think because they have 800+ military bases around the globe, they are untouchable. it turns out they can only hurt small countries like Afghanistan.

now they think like Karen who thinks its their position to tell the world who can use nuclear power and who should not.



Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: DrBeer on December 14, 2024, 12:43:38 PM
The war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on for more than 1000 days and both sides are spending a lot of money on it and as a result, innocent people are losing their lives and fighters are being killed. In fact, war does not bring any benefit to humanity, yet the world is trying to find a solution through mutual war.
NATO is constantly providing financial and military assistance to Ukraine and Russia is demonstrating its strength with a single effort and is suffering a lot financially and militarily by waging a long-term war.

If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?


As a direct participant of the events (I am a citizen of Ukraine) I will slightly correct your introduction:
This is not a war between Ukraine and Russia, it is a terrorist attack by Russia on Ukraine. It did not start in 2022, but in 2014 after the invasion of Ukraine by the terrorist country. In 2022 Putin seeing impunity and lack of response from the west decided to “end Ukraine for good”. But. Ukraine became an “aspen stake” for Rashism.
Putin, realizing that he is losing the conventional war in Ukraine, realizing that there is no “great Russia”, no “second army of the world”, no “weapons that have no analogues”, decided to threaten a non-nuclear country with nuclear weapons! But we know the behavior of this “gopnik from St. Petersburg back alley”. He has drawn “red lines” 100500 times, which then turned from “red lines” into a brown bad smelling trail of Putin crawling away :)
Yes, he knows how to scare, but he is not an idiot and understands perfectly well that by starting a nuclear war, he will be destroyed and all his castles, yachts and other assets stolen from Russia will turn to dust.... And like all dictators, Putin is cowardly and wants to live. He and his tame dogs like Medvedev promise to “launch a nuclear strike on the EU and the USA”, i.e. on their children, wives, mistresses, who have long lived in the EU and the USA and not in the collapsing Russia ! :)

The only real threat I see is the transfer of nuclear technology to such countries as North Korea and Iran, which most likely has already happened, when Putin humiliatingly begged them for missiles and “Shaheds” for the “second army of the world”.

you keep pushing your own truth when its all lies. before the war started the world knows Ukraine is not  democracy and they have been terrorizing Luhansk and Donbas region where people were asking Russia to protect them.

Russia warned them and they didn't stop but instead invite NATO.  they think because they have 800+ military bases around the globe, they are untouchable. it turns out they can only hurt small countries like Afghanistan.

now they think like Karen who thinks its their position to tell the world who can use nuclear power and who should not.

It's always very interesting to read the opinions of people who form thoughts from far away, and based on propaganda :)
How about you tell the history of Ukraine, for example from 2010 to 2014 ? And specify when “terrorized” Lugansk and Donetsk region, only necessarily in chronology and with facts ? Ok ? :)
I will be very much waiting for your “history” - I love non-scientific fiction, as well as to correct people's consciousness, spoiled by cheap propaganda. And so - waiting for your story, if it will not be - just admit that you are a victim of cheap propaganda, and end the dialog ! :)
And please, we are honest, open people - share what country you are a citizen of?  For example, I am a citizen of Ukraine, I have nothing to hide or be ashamed of, and you ? :)

PS And it will be very interesting to hear your opinion about:

- Putin's statements in early 2000 about Russia's desire to join NATO (very easy to find videos and documents on this topic)
- NATO base in Ulyanovsk, please explain to everyone ? Ulyanovsk is a city in Russia :)

This is the beginning - I have many more interesting and good questions for you :)
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: bisdak40 on December 14, 2024, 03:50:54 PM
If Russia uses nuclear weapons, the destruction would be massive, with many lives lost and areas made unlivable. It could cause global panic, economic collapse, and possibly more wars. The environment would also suffer greatly. I hope this never happens, as it would harm everyone with no real winners.

Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: _act_ on December 14, 2024, 06:46:01 PM
Nuclear weapon don't just unleashed their actions like that, people developed them and make them work against each other, this is used when two countries are in war and are using power tussle to compete against each other, its what can affect and wipe out a whole country if unleashed, they are very devastating, we should not support the use of nuclear weapon for any reason on human except for defense purpose against any unavoidable invasion.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: electronicash on December 14, 2024, 09:59:22 PM
The war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on for more than 1000 days and both sides are spending a lot of money on it and as a result, innocent people are losing their lives and fighters are being killed. In fact, war does not bring any benefit to humanity, yet the world is trying to find a solution through mutual war.
NATO is constantly providing financial and military assistance to Ukraine and Russia is demonstrating its strength with a single effort and is suffering a lot financially and militarily by waging a long-term war.

If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?


As a direct participant of the events (I am a citizen of Ukraine) I will slightly correct your introduction:
This is not a war between Ukraine and Russia, it is a terrorist attack by Russia on Ukraine. It did not start in 2022, but in 2014 after the invasion of Ukraine by the terrorist country. In 2022 Putin seeing impunity and lack of response from the west decided to “end Ukraine for good”. But. Ukraine became an “aspen stake” for Rashism.
Putin, realizing that he is losing the conventional war in Ukraine, realizing that there is no “great Russia”, no “second army of the world”, no “weapons that have no analogues”, decided to threaten a non-nuclear country with nuclear weapons! But we know the behavior of this “gopnik from St. Petersburg back alley”. He has drawn “red lines” 100500 times, which then turned from “red lines” into a brown bad smelling trail of Putin crawling away :)
Yes, he knows how to scare, but he is not an idiot and understands perfectly well that by starting a nuclear war, he will be destroyed and all his castles, yachts and other assets stolen from Russia will turn to dust.... And like all dictators, Putin is cowardly and wants to live. He and his tame dogs like Medvedev promise to “launch a nuclear strike on the EU and the USA”, i.e. on their children, wives, mistresses, who have long lived in the EU and the USA and not in the collapsing Russia ! :)

The only real threat I see is the transfer of nuclear technology to such countries as North Korea and Iran, which most likely has already happened, when Putin humiliatingly begged them for missiles and “Shaheds” for the “second army of the world”.

you keep pushing your own truth when its all lies. before the war started the world knows Ukraine is not  democracy and they have been terrorizing Luhansk and Donbas region where people were asking Russia to protect them.

Russia warned them and they didn't stop but instead invite NATO.  they think because they have 800+ military bases around the globe, they are untouchable. it turns out they can only hurt small countries like Afghanistan.

now they think like Karen who thinks its their position to tell the world who can use nuclear power and who should not.

It's always very interesting to read the opinions of people who form thoughts from far away, and based on propaganda :)
How about you tell the history of Ukraine, for example from 2010 to 2014 ? And specify when “terrorized” Lugansk and Donetsk region, only necessarily in chronology and with facts ? Ok ? :)
I will be very much waiting for your “history” - I love non-scientific fiction, as well as to correct people's consciousness, spoiled by cheap propaganda. And so - waiting for your story, if it will not be - just admit that you are a victim of cheap propaganda, and end the dialog ! :)
And please, we are honest, open people - share what country you are a citizen of?  For example, I am a citizen of Ukraine, I have nothing to hide or be ashamed of, and you ? :)

PS And it will be very interesting to hear your opinion about:

- Putin's statements in early 2000 about Russia's desire to join NATO (very easy to find videos and documents on this topic)
- NATO base in Ulyanovsk, please explain to everyone ? Ulyanovsk is a city in Russia :)

This is the beginning - I have many more interesting and good questions for you :)

ya ya we heard of that story before. crying their heart out and then showing how they bomb the Russians on youtube. and showing the world how they are winning and reporting to the world the other country is at fault. why don't you look at your president and see who has the conviction to do whats right?  the guys can't even decide which underwear to use unless Biden says so.

the lack of experience always makes a kid in trouble. the history will always say, this comedian is just lucky their media painted him as if the hero but for the people who understand it under the hood he is just a comedian thrown in the arena.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: DrBeer on December 14, 2024, 10:15:20 PM
The war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on for more than 1000 days and both sides are spending a lot of money on it and as a result, innocent people are losing their lives and fighters are being killed. In fact, war does not bring any benefit to humanity, yet the world is trying to find a solution through mutual war.
NATO is constantly providing financial and military assistance to Ukraine and Russia is demonstrating its strength with a single effort and is suffering a lot financially and militarily by waging a long-term war.

If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?


As a direct participant of the events (I am a citizen of Ukraine) I will slightly correct your introduction:
This is not a war between Ukraine and Russia, it is a terrorist attack by Russia on Ukraine. It did not start in 2022, but in 2014 after the invasion of Ukraine by the terrorist country. In 2022 Putin seeing impunity and lack of response from the west decided to “end Ukraine for good”. But. Ukraine became an “aspen stake” for Rashism.
Putin, realizing that he is losing the conventional war in Ukraine, realizing that there is no “great Russia”, no “second army of the world”, no “weapons that have no analogues”, decided to threaten a non-nuclear country with nuclear weapons! But we know the behavior of this “gopnik from St. Petersburg back alley”. He has drawn “red lines” 100500 times, which then turned from “red lines” into a brown bad smelling trail of Putin crawling away :)
Yes, he knows how to scare, but he is not an idiot and understands perfectly well that by starting a nuclear war, he will be destroyed and all his castles, yachts and other assets stolen from Russia will turn to dust.... And like all dictators, Putin is cowardly and wants to live. He and his tame dogs like Medvedev promise to “launch a nuclear strike on the EU and the USA”, i.e. on their children, wives, mistresses, who have long lived in the EU and the USA and not in the collapsing Russia ! :)

The only real threat I see is the transfer of nuclear technology to such countries as North Korea and Iran, which most likely has already happened, when Putin humiliatingly begged them for missiles and “Shaheds” for the “second army of the world”.

you keep pushing your own truth when its all lies. before the war started the world knows Ukraine is not  democracy and they have been terrorizing Luhansk and Donbas region where people were asking Russia to protect them.

Russia warned them and they didn't stop but instead invite NATO.  they think because they have 800+ military bases around the globe, they are untouchable. it turns out they can only hurt small countries like Afghanistan.

now they think like Karen who thinks its their position to tell the world who can use nuclear power and who should not.

It's always very interesting to read the opinions of people who form thoughts from far away, and based on propaganda :)
How about you tell the history of Ukraine, for example from 2010 to 2014 ? And specify when “terrorized” Lugansk and Donetsk region, only necessarily in chronology and with facts ? Ok ? :)
I will be very much waiting for your “history” - I love non-scientific fiction, as well as to correct people's consciousness, spoiled by cheap propaganda. And so - waiting for your story, if it will not be - just admit that you are a victim of cheap propaganda, and end the dialog ! :)
And please, we are honest, open people - share what country you are a citizen of?  For example, I am a citizen of Ukraine, I have nothing to hide or be ashamed of, and you ? :)

PS And it will be very interesting to hear your opinion about:

- Putin's statements in early 2000 about Russia's desire to join NATO (very easy to find videos and documents on this topic)
- NATO base in Ulyanovsk, please explain to everyone ? Ulyanovsk is a city in Russia :)

This is the beginning - I have many more interesting and good questions for you :)

ya ya we heard of that story before. crying their heart out and then showing how they bomb the Russians on youtube. and showing the world how they are winning and reporting to the world the other country is at fault. why don't you look at your president and see who has the conviction to do whats right?  the guys can't even decide which underwear to use unless Biden says so.

the lack of experience always makes a kid in trouble. the history will always say, this comedian is just lucky their media painted him as if the hero but for the people who understand it under the hood he is just a comedian thrown in the arena.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

When a person has nothing to say reasonably, and lacks the courage and honesty to admit that he was wrong - a person starts talking nonsense. You proved it 1000% :)
Frankly speaking - you didn't surprise me, your pathetic attempt to avoid answering was 100% predictable :)
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: electronicash on December 14, 2024, 11:13:59 PM

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

When a person has nothing to say reasonably, and lacks the courage and honesty to admit that he was wrong - a person starts talking nonsense. You proved it 1000% :)
Frankly speaking - you didn't surprise me, your pathetic attempt to avoid answering was 100% predictable :)

Zelensky does not even understand what he is talking about yet he is telling the world its Russia that terrorizing them?  the joker didn't understand how NATO made him a fool of their propaganda.

why you ask me those question when you can find it on youtube, Jeffrey Sachs is an American economist and public policy analyst himself do it publicly. don't act like people wouldn't know how to search.



Ukraine is losing their land. when some Ukrainians are already trying to scam on bitcointalk asking for investment, its a sign. the people are desperate already. 

Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: DrBeer on December 20, 2024, 04:13:24 PM

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

When a person has nothing to say reasonably, and lacks the courage and honesty to admit that he was wrong - a person starts talking nonsense. You proved it 1000% :)
Frankly speaking - you didn't surprise me, your pathetic attempt to avoid answering was 100% predictable :)

Zelensky does not even understand what he is talking about yet he is telling the world its Russia that terrorizing them?  the joker didn't understand how NATO made him a fool of their propaganda.

why you ask me those question when you can find it on youtube, Jeffrey Sachs is an American economist and public policy analyst himself do it publicly. don't act like people wouldn't know how to search.


Ukraine is losing their land. when some Ukrainians are already trying to scam on bitcointalk asking for investment, its a sign. the people are desperate already.


If I like delusions and other “brain thinners” - I would listen to Putin at once, about Pechenegs, Rurikovich, that Poland forced Germany to attack it in 1939 and other hot nonsense. I.e. I would do the same as you, without using my brain and reality :)
I especially like it when one person's words are retold by another, and the third person believes it, thinking that this nonsense was really said by the first person :)))).
It reminds me of an anecdote that reminds you in this case: 
- Are you all crazy with your Caruso?! I've heard your Caruso - he lisped, he has no voice, he can't hit the notes ...
- Have you been to a Caruso concert??
- No, Rabinovich told me over the phone.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: electronicash on December 21, 2024, 06:51:34 PM

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

When a person has nothing to say reasonably, and lacks the courage and honesty to admit that he was wrong - a person starts talking nonsense. You proved it 1000% :)
Frankly speaking - you didn't surprise me, your pathetic attempt to avoid answering was 100% predictable :)

Zelensky does not even understand what he is talking about yet he is telling the world its Russia that terrorizing them?  the joker didn't understand how NATO made him a fool of their propaganda.

why you ask me those question when you can find it on youtube, Jeffrey Sachs is an American economist and public policy analyst himself do it publicly. don't act like people wouldn't know how to search.


Ukraine is losing their land. when some Ukrainians are already trying to scam on bitcointalk asking for investment, its a sign. the people are desperate already.


If I like delusions and other “brain thinners” - I would listen to Putin at once, about Pechenegs, Rurikovich, that Poland forced Germany to attack it in 1939 and other hot nonsense. I.e. I would do the same as you, without using my brain and reality :)
I especially like it when one person's words are retold by another, and the third person believes it, thinking that this nonsense was really said by the first person :)))).
It reminds me of an anecdote that reminds you in this case: 
- Are you all crazy with your Caruso?! I've heard your Caruso - he lisped, he has no voice, he can't hit the notes ...
- Have you been to a Caruso concert??
- No, Rabinovich told me over the phone.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

and yet you bother not to include the link of the video when quoting? its like trying to bury the info like Rinos would do. there i fix the youtube link again.

no one will bother to know those names you mentioned. they are talking about the facts and you know its true. despite how destroyed the Ukraine country because of the comedian president, you still believe US government is Ukraine's friend. you got the Stockholm syndrome.

just like Germany despite how ruin their economy, they still have no balls to fight back US while Biden bombed their Nordstream.  so now they are force to buy gas from US.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: DrBeer on December 27, 2024, 11:04:14 PM

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

When a person has nothing to say reasonably, and lacks the courage and honesty to admit that he was wrong - a person starts talking nonsense. You proved it 1000% :)
Frankly speaking - you didn't surprise me, your pathetic attempt to avoid answering was 100% predictable :)

Zelensky does not even understand what he is talking about yet he is telling the world its Russia that terrorizing them?  the joker didn't understand how NATO made him a fool of their propaganda.

why you ask me those question when you can find it on youtube, Jeffrey Sachs is an American economist and public policy analyst himself do it publicly. don't act like people wouldn't know how to search.

Ukraine is losing their land. when some Ukrainians are already trying to scam on bitcointalk asking for investment, its a sign. the people are desperate already.


If I like delusions and other “brain thinners” - I would listen to Putin at once, about Pechenegs, Rurikovich, that Poland forced Germany to attack it in 1939 and other hot nonsense. I.e. I would do the same as you, without using my brain and reality :)
I especially like it when one person's words are retold by another, and the third person believes it, thinking that this nonsense was really said by the first person :)))).
It reminds me of an anecdote that reminds you in this case: 
- Are you all crazy with your Caruso?! I've heard your Caruso - he lisped, he has no voice, he can't hit the notes ...
- Have you been to a Caruso concert??
- No, Rabinovich told me over the phone.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

and yet you bother not to include the link of the video when quoting? its like trying to bury the info like Rinos would do. there i fix the youtube link again.

no one will bother to know those names you mentioned. they are talking about the facts and you know its true. despite how destroyed the Ukraine country because of the comedian president, you still believe US government is Ukraine's friend. you got the Stockholm syndrome.

just like Germany despite how ruin their economy, they still have no balls to fight back US while Biden bombed their Nordstream.  so now they are force to buy gas from US.

I take it - for you the truth is what you like and what contradicts the facts you don't like ! ?
Ukraine since 2014 (when Zelensky was still on the show), is being destroyed by a terrorist country, that's a fact and that's the truth. Just as it is true that the supporters of rashism have changed the “reasons” 100500 times already.  trying to justify the terrorist war unleashed by them. These were idiotic fairy tales starting from “protection of the Russian-speaking population”, then there were “biolaboratories” and “mosquitoes biting only Russian-speakers”, so they came up with the fairy tale about “Ukraine joining NATO” and other nonsense :))
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: DragonF on December 31, 2024, 08:51:08 PM
The war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on for more than 1000 days and both sides are spending a lot of money on it and as a result, innocent people are losing their lives and fighters are being killed. In fact, war does not bring any benefit to humanity, yet the world is trying to find a solution through mutual war.
NATO is constantly providing financial and military assistance to Ukraine and Russia is demonstrating its strength with a single effort and is suffering a lot financially and militarily by waging a long-term war.

If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?

World peace is seriously threatened by the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, and I continue to be shocked that the UN is doing nothing to halt it. The war's occurrence demonstrates the UN's incapacity to follow through on its promise of global peace. The United Nations Security Council was supposed to take early action, but regrettably, nothing has been done.

This disregard demonstrates the high degree of politics that exist within the UN as well as the organization's lack of a standing army. Because some member states may not want to allow their military to participate in the peacekeeping effort when wars are raging in certain countries, the United Nations' ability to control wars has been undermined by its reliance on its members' armed forces. 
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: philipma1957 on January 01, 2025, 05:33:36 AM
The war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on for more than 1000 days and both sides are spending a lot of money on it and as a result, innocent people are losing their lives and fighters are being killed. In fact, war does not bring any benefit to humanity, yet the world is trying to find a solution through mutual war.
NATO is constantly providing financial and military assistance to Ukraine and Russia is demonstrating its strength with a single effort and is suffering a lot financially and militarily by waging a long-term war.

If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?

The world would likely end.

Also if Russia nukes the Ukraine it is far more likely to 85% of the radiation float back to them.  As the winds mostly blow across the Ukraine towards Russia.

I also kind of think putin would prefer to be alive since he is supposedly m an atheist.

Russia is better off nuking Canada and saying Trump did it.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: JoyMarsha on January 01, 2025, 11:21:46 PM
If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?
It would trigger those countries that are in support of Ukraine to retaliate immediately against Russia using their own nuclear weapons.

The case of using nuclear in a war is prohibited for any country to use. That's why the world powers keep kicking against it when other countries are planning to manufacture theirs because they know what it can lead to when countries that don't value the lives of citizens get hold of it. It can be dangerous
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: DrBeer on January 03, 2025, 04:30:20 PM
The war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on for more than 1000 days and both sides are spending a lot of money on it and as a result, innocent people are losing their lives and fighters are being killed. In fact, war does not bring any benefit to humanity, yet the world is trying to find a solution through mutual war.
NATO is constantly providing financial and military assistance to Ukraine and Russia is demonstrating its strength with a single effort and is suffering a lot financially and militarily by waging a long-term war.

If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?

World peace is seriously threatened by the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, and I continue to be shocked that the UN is doing nothing to halt it. The war's occurrence demonstrates the UN's incapacity to follow through on its promise of global peace. The United Nations Security Council was supposed to take early action, but regrettably, nothing has been done.

This disregard demonstrates the high degree of politics that exist within the UN as well as the organization's lack of a standing army. Because some member states may not want to allow their military to participate in the peacekeeping effort when wars are raging in certain countries, the United Nations' ability to control wars has been undermined by its reliance on its members' armed forces.

1. There is no conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Russia, treacherously, in violation of all its obligations, attacked Ukraine, occupying a part of it. If a criminal with a knife attacks you and starts stabbing you, will you also say in court - “oh, what an attack, just a little quarrel”?
2. The problem of the situation is that the world is not ready for a situation when a nuclear country violates all its commitments, breaks all the laws it has signed, and spits in the face of the world, claiming that it can do whatever it wants because it has weapons. Just so you know, at the beginning of 2022, no one thought Ukraine would last more than a couple weeks - there was no military or financial aid, nothing but regular “regrets” and “concerns” in the media. Terrorist troops of Russia entered Kiev, and were 7 km away from my house in Kiev, and the streets of Kiev were already fighting, destroying armored columns. And after 2 months the world saw that Russia is just a huge embittered criminal who attacked a “schoolboy”, but got hit in the face and had to flee..... And now everyone is thinking - what to do with a huge terrorist ? And seeing the powerlessness of the world, other terrorist or totalitarian regimes have become active and are actively helping the country of the terrorist. And the world is still afraid to admit that the Kremlin terrorism is a cancerous tumor of the world, which has not been dealt with before and decided that it will not start destroying everything around. Yes, when the cancer has metastasized, it is even more difficult to treat. But if we don't start treating it now, it will kill everything around us, all those who love negotiations, and those who love to “solve it peacefully” and “make concessions to Russia”, etc. If the world does not stop the new brown plague, making maximum efforts and assistance to Ukraine, tomorrow the brown plague will come and destroy your cities and take your lives....
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: defy on January 03, 2025, 06:13:40 PM
The war between Russia and Ukraine has been going on for more than 1000 days and both sides are spending a lot of money on it and as a result, innocent people are losing their lives and fighters are being killed. In fact, war does not bring any benefit to humanity, yet the world is trying to find a solution through mutual war.
NATO is constantly providing financial and military assistance to Ukraine and Russia is demonstrating its strength with a single effort and is suffering a lot financially and militarily by waging a long-term war.

If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?

World peace is seriously threatened by the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, and I continue to be shocked that the UN is doing nothing to halt it. The war's occurrence demonstrates the UN's incapacity to follow through on its promise of global peace. The United Nations Security Council was supposed to take early action, but regrettably, nothing has been done.

This disregard demonstrates the high degree of politics that exist within the UN as well as the organization's lack of a standing army. Because some member states may not want to allow their military to participate in the peacekeeping effort when wars are raging in certain countries, the United Nations' ability to control wars has been undermined by its reliance on its members' armed forces.

I wonder though if the UN are afraid to get heave handed with Russia in case they start using Nuclear Bombs?

AminI afraid of Nuclear war? yes but I dont think about it because its out of my control.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: Penlex_Writer on January 13, 2025, 11:05:17 PM
If Russia, which is facing financial and military losses due to waging a long-term war, gets annoyed and uses nuclear weapons, what effect could it have on the world ?
Then it will be the beginning of the apocalypse, and we are almost reaching that point when governments like US and other countries are forcing Russia to keep on going with this war for a very long time. I don't want to take any sides on this one but I just want them to end somehow for the better future of this world or we might not have anything left to fight for.
no one is praying to experince such,the war has resulted in life losses,destruction of agricultural,huge damage to production capacity and so on,war is not something someone should witness.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: Mr_kappa on January 16, 2025, 05:06:45 PM
War means destruction, and in today's world, war is not just a regional problem, it can spread from a few neighboring countries to several continents. War causes many deaths, increases in the prices of goods, food shortages, and energy shortages are always present, so not only nuclear war, but any war is not desirable for humanity.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: DrBeer on January 31, 2025, 10:53:23 PM
War means destruction, and in today's world, war is not just a regional problem, it can spread from a few neighboring countries to several continents. War causes many deaths, increases in the prices of goods, food shortages, and energy shortages are always present, so not only nuclear war, but any war is not desirable for humanity.

Unfortunately, for some countries, or rather their rulers, war is the only way to distract the population from the real problems that the ruler or regime has created, and to keep their miserable power !
There are also rulers and regimes that just want to cut and destroy what they can not realize themselves, or for the realization of their painful complexes. Unfortunately, we are now witnessing such examples.... The key problem is that the modern world is very relaxed, mired in corruption, and cannot respond quickly and powerfully to such criminal regimes....
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: JoyMarsha on February 23, 2025, 10:21:48 PM
no one is praying to experince such,the war has resulted in life losses,destruction of agricultural,huge damage to production capacity and so on,war is not something someone should witness.
Our parents, who have witnessed war in the past, will tell you that war is not what the human race should witness. The damage and life loss it causes to humanity is what takes years before the memory can go off for people to recover from it.

However, the war between Russia and Ukraine, any time it stops, the memory will keep living on with the people of both countries. They will tell the war stories to their unborn on how the war started, what caused it, and the bad impact it had on the country. The memory of that will be passed on from generation to generation. Not forget how the war is being fought.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on February 24, 2025, 10:45:54 PM
Since there were no regulations that is being made in restricting for the production of nuclear weapons by any country, those that have developed on doing this successfully knew the implications of what creating a nuclear weapon, also, how powerful a country is and how they could stand independently on their own could go a long way in having the resources needed in creating a nuclear weapon.
Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: bisdak40 on February 25, 2025, 02:24:50 PM
Since there were no regulations that is being made in restricting for the production of nuclear weapons by any country, those that have developed on doing this successfully knew the implications of what creating a nuclear weapon, also, how powerful a country is and how they could stand independently on their own could go a long way in having the resources needed in creating a nuclear weapon.
Yeah, countries that build nuclear weapons know the risks, but they still do it because it gives them power. There aren’t really strict rules stopping them, and having these weapons makes them feel stronger and more independent. It’s all about control and showing they can stand on their own.

Title: Re: Fear of nuclear war
Post by: target on February 25, 2025, 07:57:03 PM
Since there were no regulations that is being made in restricting for the production of nuclear weapons by any country, those that have developed on doing this successfully knew the implications of what creating a nuclear weapon, also, how powerful a country is and how they could stand independently on their own could go a long way in having the resources needed in creating a nuclear weapon.
Yeah, countries that build nuclear weapons know the risks, but they still do it because it gives them power. There aren’t really strict rules stopping them, and having these weapons makes them feel stronger and more independent. It’s all about control and showing they can stand on their own.

Of course there is a strict rules otherwise US wouldn't be trying to stop Iran from establishing themselves as a nuclear power. Iran being a nuclear power means, they are going to try to be a leader in the middle east.

One more super power in this world means lots of chance they could turn this world in to a mess or one could just blow a neighboring country if they see fit.