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Title: stealing to gamble
Post by: bitterguy28 on December 07, 2024, 09:10:48 AM
a 21 year old stole around $170 USD (10 000 PHP) in a city in the Philippines and used it to gamble on an online casino he is now behind bars and he said that all the money has been spent gambling and some of it are distributed to his friends he blames hunger and poverty as a reason for why he stole money but i think he just really wanted to gamble because if he were truly hungry he would have used the money to buy food and other necessities instead did he think that he could double his money through gambling?

read here (https://www.brigadanews.ph/man-arrested-for-stealing-%E2%82%B110k-coins-from-to-fund-online-gambling/)
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: SmartGold01 on December 07, 2024, 10:23:21 AM
a 21 year old stole around $170 USD (10 000 PHP) in a city in the Philippines and used it to gamble on an online casino he is now behind bars and he said that all the money has been spent gambling and some of it are distributed to his friends he blames hunger and poverty as a reason for why he stole money but i think he just really wanted to gamble because if he were truly hungry he would have used the money to buy food and other necessities instead did he think that he could double his money through gambling?

read here (https://www.brigadanews.ph/man-arrested-for-stealing-%E2%82%B110k-coins-from-to-fund-online-gambling/)
You know nowadays people do intentional things and term it to something that would looks so pitiable to them without attaching much effects and offense to what they had done, realistically we shouldn't be that naïve over things of life and then channels it to something that would looks so pitiably in order to prevent or skip the consequences. True he may have stolen the money for the purpose of gambling and when he noticed that he has nothing much left with him he then used small amount left with him to go drinking and give to friends to cover up his gambling attitudes.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: Igebotz on December 07, 2024, 05:18:13 PM
When a child is not properly disciplined at home, he will act and behave in ways that do not conform to societal norms. To prevent such behaviours, parents must educate their children about gambling and its dangers.

For a child to steal and gamble indicates that the child has been gambling and has reached an addictive state. There is a need to sanction the individual and then restrict them from gambling. If he is pardoned, he is likely to continue stealing to gamble. 
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: Gurujebs on December 07, 2024, 05:24:23 PM
a 21 year old stole around $170 USD (10 000 PHP) in a city in the Philippines and used it to gamble on an online casino he is now behind bars and he said that all the money has been spent gambling and some of it are distributed to his friends he blames hunger and poverty as a reason for why he stole money but i think he just really wanted to gamble because if he were truly hungry he would have used the money to buy food and other necessities instead did he think that he could double his money through gambling?

read here (https://www.brigadanews.ph/man-arrested-for-stealing-%E2%82%B110k-coins-from-to-fund-online-gambling/)

This is not the case of a hunger, this is nothing but gambling addiction. There is no way you will be hungry and the next thing you want to think of is gambling, he would have spend the money buying enough food stuffs at home so that if eventually he is caught, he will present the food stuff in his home as evidence, he is definitely lying.

If a gambler is addicted, they don't mind selling their things, they don't mind selling their properties or even the ones of their close relatives and families, this is whu gambling addiction is very bad. I hope he learn his lesson after this.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: Agbe on December 07, 2024, 06:07:52 PM
a 21 year old stole around $170 USD (10 000 PHP) in a city in the Philippines and used it to gamble on an online casino he is now behind bars and he said that all the money has been spent gambling and some of it are distributed to his friends he blames hunger and poverty as a reason for why he stole money but i think he just really wanted to gamble because if he were truly hungry he would have used the money to buy food and other necessities instead did he think that he could double his money through gambling?

read here (https://www.brigadanews.ph/man-arrested-for-stealing-%E2%82%B110k-coins-from-to-fund-online-gambling/)
Stealing to gamble is something that should not even be contemplated by anyone who is mentally sound because stealing is actually against the laws of the state and against God and even humans so it should be discouraged among the young ones as it can lead to a societal problem if left unchecked by the society so the prison sentence given to the young Gambler is okay and in other as it serves as a lesson to others who is still having such thoughts
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: electronicash on December 07, 2024, 06:51:34 PM

and they are all coins worth 10k PHP (170USD) lol  must have been very heavy to carry. he would have been a hero if he toss them up to the air like robinhood would do it for the hungry street kids.

he looks skinny though. either he is into meth or really hungry but at the same time wants to double the money he stole by gambling. most probably he wants to impress his friends so he gave away some.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: salad daging on December 07, 2024, 06:53:32 PM
Instead of doubling his money, he was so addicted that he would steal money to gamble.

Even if he can double the money he will not return the stolen money.

I see many similar cases in my country where people have dared to steal just to gamble, because they don't have money while they want to play gambling, so they steal....

Then of course this will face legal problems, he will definitely be arrested and imprisoned.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: 0t3p0t on December 07, 2024, 07:10:09 PM
a 21 year old stole around $170 USD (10 000 PHP) in a city in the Philippines and used it to gamble on an online casino he is now behind bars and he said that all the money has been spent gambling and some of it are distributed to his friends he blames hunger and poverty as a reason for why he stole money but i think he just really wanted to gamble because if he were truly hungry he would have used the money to buy food and other necessities instead did he think that he could double his money through gambling?

read here (https://www.brigadanews.ph/man-arrested-for-stealing-%E2%82%B110k-coins-from-to-fund-online-gambling/)
Well could be that he want this get rich quick thing in gambling unfortunately for him it's not happening. His inner self wanted more out of that money to escape from hunger or even poverty but he has wrong mindset. And his effort of stealing that money is useless since he ends up in jail or he might be intentionally doing that so he's having good sleep, food and of course with security.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: Stompix on December 07, 2024, 07:51:44 PM
Tossing aside the gambling and the stealing stuff, things like this happen every day and hundreds of those happen with using drugs, I mean how do people that lose everything have money to gamble anyhow, but rather than talking about that, what is this:

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from a “piso net” internet café.

Are internet cafes still a thing? Why?
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: target on December 07, 2024, 08:25:21 PM
Tossing aside the gambling and the stealing stuff, things like this happen every day and hundreds of those happen with using drugs, I mean how do people that lose everything have money to gamble anyhow, but rather than talking about that, what is this:

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from a “piso net” internet café.

Are internet cafes still a thing? Why?

Its like vending machine. A person can use his phone to access WiFi for few minutes with a peso. This is a common business in the Philippines because not everybody has internet connection at home.

He broke the machine now kids are not able to use internet for their school assignment. This robber just ruined the only access of the kids nearby.

I doubt he return the money if he doubled the money, he's going to buy more drugs.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: Rruchi man on December 07, 2024, 08:58:33 PM
a 21 year old stole around $170 USD (10 000 PHP) in a city in the Philippines and used it to gamble on an online casino he is now behind bars and he said that all the money has been spent gambling and some of it are distributed to his friends he blames hunger and poverty as a reason for why he stole money but i think he just really wanted to gamble because if he were truly hungry he would have used the money to buy food and other necessities instead did he think that he could double his money through gambling?
Whatever the motive is for stealing, stealing is bad and should never be justified. To know if it was actually just hunger that prompted this 21-year-old to steal to gamble, it can be traced from his gambling history. If he has a gambling history with very recent consecutive losses, then we can say this is a case of someone who is addicted to gambling and has allowed it to push him to steal. If he has no gambling history, and maybe this was his first time, then you can say his intentions were purely to try to double the money.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: Sim_card on December 07, 2024, 08:59:53 PM
Addiction is something very bad and is beyond the victim power to control. He was never hungry but prefer to steal to fuel up his addiction. Parents have a major role to play on making sure that there kids are brought up in a God fearing way with good morals. He has being stealing at home to gamble and this is not the first time. It's better you don't think of gambling when you don't have spare funds on you.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: robelneo on December 07, 2024, 09:15:26 PM
a 21 year old stole around $170 USD (10 000 PHP) in a city in the Philippines and used it to gamble on an online casino he is now behind bars and he said that all the money has been spent gambling and some of it are distributed to his friends he blames hunger and poverty as a reason for why he stole money but i think he just really wanted to gamble because if he were truly hungry he would have used the money to buy food and other necessities instead did he think that he could double his money through gambling?
You are right on this; if its really hunger, the first thing you will do is buy food and not gamble with the money; its just an alibi for him to hide his addiction, but it doesn't make sense with that alibi. Those addicted to gambling are like this; they will tell you lies and out of this world alibis just to justify their bad deeds; they even blame people except themselves and their addiction.
When a person gives you this kind of alibi, you know that he is gambling too much and you cannot reason to him and he needs an immediate rehabilitation.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: Rubel007 on December 07, 2024, 09:58:33 PM
The person who stole the money here may have planned to double his money through gambling and give it back to his friend, but there is no certain way to double the money from gambling. He lost his money in gambling and now he can lie to prove himself innocent. Assuming without knowing the real facts will not always be correct. However, such incidents are not new. There are many examples of a person who won a huge amount of money by betting with the money of a friend or another person and later got the money back.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 07, 2024, 09:59:33 PM
a 21 year old stole around $170 USD (10 000 PHP) in a city in the Philippines and used it to gamble on an online casino he is now behind bars and he said that all the money has been spent gambling and some of it are distributed to his friends he blames hunger and poverty as a reason for why he stole money but i think he just really wanted to gamble because if he were truly hungry he would have used the money to buy food and other necessities instead did he think that he could double his money through gambling?

read here (https://www.brigadanews.ph/man-arrested-for-stealing-%E2%82%B110k-coins-from-to-fund-online-gambling/)
Many individuals are so guilty of this kind of attitude of thinking of doubling their money through gambling, leaving the exact reason behind why they did what they did to have the money at hand.

Give the young 21 years old boy huge money to cater for himself so that he won't steal people's money again, you will still find him gambling over again because he's been addicted to gambling, thinking that he can make quick money from gambling
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: |MINER| on December 07, 2024, 10:20:51 PM
a 21 year old stole around $170 USD (10 000 PHP) in a city in the Philippines and used it to gamble on an online casino he is now behind bars and he said that all the money has been spent gambling and some of it are distributed to his friends he blames hunger and poverty as a reason for why he stole money but i think he just really wanted to gamble because if he were truly hungry he would have used the money to buy food and other necessities instead did he think that he could double his money through gambling?
And from this incident, it is quite easy to understand that the person who stole $170 and said that he was hungry and poor as a reason for stealing is lying to just skipping the situation.
It is a very common case that a compulsive gambler later gets involved in crime because he cannot afford to gamble. I mean, I stole $170 just to feed my gambling addiction. If there were any other reason, he would have done those activities first or given more priority to that than gambling.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: bitterguy28 on December 08, 2024, 06:35:19 AM
and they are all coins worth 10k PHP (170USD) lol  must have been very heavy to carry. he would have been a hero if he toss them up to the air like robinhood would do it for the hungry street kids.
that is how you know how determined he probably was to steal and get money most likely he did not count the coins and just took them away and when counted he realized it had amounted to 170 usd but like you said it would have been heavy to carry he was lucky that no one caught him right in the act because carrying that amount of coins can't be subtle
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he looks skinny though. either he is into meth or really hungry but at the same time wants to double the money he stole by gambling. most probably he wants to impress his friends so he gave away some.
it could be both i mean poor people who can't afford to eat turn into drug addicts because drugs trick their brains into not feeling hungry so a lot of kids in my country can be seen inhaling addicting substance instead of buying food because maybe the drugs is a lot more sustainable/long lasting or cheaper than a proper meal
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: $crypto$ on December 08, 2024, 01:28:53 PM
Whatever the reason stealing is a bad thing, I don't want to tolerate it, because when they dare to steal then there is something wrong with them. They say they are hungry or for others, wrong is still wrong.

This is also what I am worried about actually where someone can do anything to fulfill what they want not what they need. They will not see wrong or not, because there is a very strong urge.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: bisdak40 on December 08, 2024, 03:57:45 PM
If he really needed food he would have used the money for that but he chose to gamble it away so he probably has a gambling problem. Gambling addictions mess with people’s minds, making them think they’ll win big and fix everything, but it just makes things worse.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: electronicash on December 08, 2024, 06:28:51 PM
Whatever the reason stealing is a bad thing, I don't want to tolerate it, because when they dare to steal then there is something wrong with them. They say they are hungry or for others, wrong is still wrong.

This is also what I am worried about actually where someone can do anything to fulfill what they want not what they need. They will not see wrong or not, because there is a very strong urge.

well i can understand hunger. if a person is just taught how to catch fish then he would try catching fish and cook it for himself.  the new generation of today however aren't taught this way. not all of course but many of them that lived in the city are even unaware that chickens are raised in a poultry house.

but obviously he isn't just literally hungry for food. vices as well. he needs to be detained to learn.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: 0t3p0t on December 08, 2024, 09:36:45 PM
If he really needed food he would have used the money for that but he chose to gamble it away so he probably has a gambling problem. Gambling addictions mess with people’s minds, making them think they’ll win big and fix everything, but it just makes things worse.
Well yeah, I can see that situation here in my place where they entrust their future with the luck in gambling that is the reason why they end up stealing other peoples property and stuff. This addiction is going too far as long as they are not getting what they wanted.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: Findingnemo on December 10, 2024, 06:47:59 PM
Stealing is wrong no matter how noble the reason is such as for buying food, and spend it on Gambling is much worse crime. People do stupid things and end up ruining their life completely so I wish anyone read such news will take it as a warning call and not to commit such no matter what situation we are in.

Addiction is something needs to be treated in right way but unfortunately not everyone aware of that or simply lack the financial help to do it.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: Zed0X on December 10, 2024, 09:57:23 PM
LOL scatter again. I've watched some content creators making funny videos about how people are selling stolen items or selling their own body parts to have money to play that game. I find it entertaining but I know there's truth to it. This is probably a result of too much freedom to gamble or access these games.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: pieppiep on December 10, 2024, 10:59:31 PM
a 21 year old stole around $170 USD (10 000 PHP) in a city in the Philippines and used it to gamble on an online casino he is now behind bars and he said that all the money has been spent gambling and some of it are distributed to his friends he blames hunger and poverty as a reason for why he stole money but i think he just really wanted to gamble because if he were truly hungry he would have used the money to buy food and other necessities instead did he think that he could double his money through gambling?

read here (https://www.brigadanews.ph/man-arrested-for-stealing-%E2%82%B110k-coins-from-to-fund-online-gambling/)
Stealing is the product of the pressure of life, but we also need to see that every action is followed by consequences that must be met. So in this case one needs to be able to draw from that incident and come up with a better solution next time around. Dealing with life challenges is never fun, however there are far worse ways of living than choosing a lifestyle that is destructive to yourself and others. Taking causes additional stress, and the worst can be said that it is made to bet for no sure shot of a win.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: milewilda on December 11, 2024, 12:58:54 AM
a 21 year old stole around $170 USD (10 000 PHP) in a city in the Philippines and used it to gamble on an online casino he is now behind bars and he said that all the money has been spent gambling and some of it are distributed to his friends he blames hunger and poverty as a reason for why he stole money but i think he just really wanted to gamble because if he were truly hungry he would have used the money to buy food and other necessities instead did he think that he could double his money through gambling?

read here (https://www.brigadanews.ph/man-arrested-for-stealing-%E2%82%B110k-coins-from-to-fund-online-gambling/)
On the moment that you do gamble out whether its your own money or being stolen then this does still shows that a person does really want to multiple his/her money and this one ends up on having those kind of reasoning that he stole money because of poverty and hunger on which this is really just that a lame excuse. If they were really that tending to find up ways for them to be able to eat then stealing isnt only the solution. This do really just simply shows that these people are really just that lazy on trying out to find up some jobs out there. If you do really just that simply persevere to find one then you could actually do it, it is really just that people are being too lazy and want simple things to be done rather than on hardwork.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: LogitechMouse on December 11, 2024, 07:17:20 AM
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he would have used the money to buy food and other necessities instead did he think that he could double his money through gambling?

read here (https://www.brigadanews.ph/man-arrested-for-stealing-%E2%82%B110k-coins-from-to-fund-online-gambling/)
He blames hunger and poverty that's why he chose to steal and picked the easy way to make more money and that is through gambling? What a good kid he is. :D If you know what I mean.

Anyway, it's almost the same as our neighbor here if I must share. He's also stealing not money but belongings from his parent's house (he has a different house), selling those and using it to gamble offline. As for the kiddo, it's good that he's already behind bars, but that would be temporary (months maybe) since that's considered as theft only. I just don't know why he's blaming hunger and poverty when he can just use that money that he stole to buy some food.

It's just unfortunate how these kids are finding ways to earn money to the point that they're going to steal other people's money. Can't blame though especially if they didn't finish their studies.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: $crypto$ on December 11, 2024, 03:31:15 PM
Whatever the reason stealing is a bad thing, I don't want to tolerate it, because when they dare to steal then there is something wrong with them. They say they are hungry or for others, wrong is still wrong.

This is also what I am worried about actually where someone can do anything to fulfill what they want not what they need. They will not see wrong or not, because there is a very strong urge.

well i can understand hunger. if a person is just taught how to catch fish then he would try catching fish and cook it for himself.  the new generation of today however aren't taught this way. not all of course but many of them that lived in the city are even unaware that chickens are raised in a poultry house.

but obviously he isn't just literally hungry for food. vices as well. he needs to be detained to learn.
Well that's the problem, I see the current generation only wants to fulfill their desires without trying to fulfill their own needs. Well, let's say they are hungry, but hunger doesn't come suddenly, right? I mean they can still try to find something before hunger strikes.

Well the problem is when they are full they don't think about something they can eat when hunger comes, even though they are aware that hunger will definitely return.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: Igebotz on December 11, 2024, 03:50:35 PM
Stealing is the product of the pressure of life, but we also need to see that every action is followed by consequences that must be met. So in this case one needs to be able to draw from that incident and come up with a better solution next time around. Dealing with life challenges is never fun, however there are far worse ways of living than choosing a lifestyle that is destructive to yourself and others. Taking causes additional stress, and the worst can be said that it is made to bet for no sure shot of a win.

I believe that some people have faced life's challenges without resorting to stealing. Any person who steals does so not because he is under pressure, but because he has an innate desire to steal. Some people are unable to steal because they are aware of the negative consequences of stealing.

Now, a person who is not known for stealing may develop a gambling addiction and begin stealing. This is because he has lost the self-consciousness that keeps him from stealing. Gambling addiction is a disorder in which a person has lost control of their thoughts and emotions.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: Rubel007 on December 11, 2024, 10:50:46 PM
If he really needed food he would have used the money for that but he chose to gamble it away so he probably has a gambling problem. Gambling addictions mess with people’s minds, making them think they’ll win big and fix everything, but it just makes things worse.
This behavior certainly proves very well that he did not gamble for food but rather he was greedy in gambling. He thought that if he won the bet with that money, he would be able to continue his gambling regularly and on the other hand, he would be able to pay his money and after paying the money, he could use rest of that money to buy food but when he did not win then all his plans became worthless. He should have understood earlier that gambling is not a platform for definite winning. Here not only winning but also losing can happen.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: bitterguy28 on December 12, 2024, 05:31:23 PM
This behavior certainly proves very well that he did not gamble for food but rather he was greedy in gambling. He thought that if he won the bet with that money, he would be able to continue his gambling regularly and on the other hand, he would be able to pay his money and after paying the money, he could use rest of that money to buy food but when he did not win then all his plans became worthless.
example of gamblers putting everything on the line in hopes of doubling their profits which time and time again has been proven to fail

but even if he had won and has doubled his money it doesn’t take away the fact that he still stole some money from someone else and that is a crime if he had just borrowed from someone else it would have been a completely different story altogether
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: pieppiep on December 12, 2024, 06:05:06 PM
Stealing is the product of the pressure of life, but we also need to see that every action is followed by consequences that must be met. So in this case one needs to be able to draw from that incident and come up with a better solution next time around. Dealing with life challenges is never fun, however there are far worse ways of living than choosing a lifestyle that is destructive to yourself and others. Taking causes additional stress, and the worst can be said that it is made to bet for no sure shot of a win.

I believe that some people have faced life's challenges without resorting to stealing. Any person who steals does so not because he is under pressure, but because he has an innate desire to steal. Some people are unable to steal because they are aware of the negative consequences of stealing.

Now, a person who is not known for stealing may develop a gambling addiction and begin stealing. This is because he has lost the self-consciousness that keeps him from stealing. Gambling addiction is a disorder in which a person has lost control of their thoughts and emotions.
Right, Life has a way of putting us through scenarios that we have to challenge are principles and values. In this case one is able to construct self awareness by practising habits that redirect oneself from a wrong behaviour. When we all get confused it is good to stand for one another and foster change for the better. Whenever a person is tangled in a specific undesirable pattern, it becomes more than possible to change gradually, for instance, talking with a friend or engaging in constructive work. Together you will improve as people and part from what makes you feel regretful.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: Igebotz on December 12, 2024, 07:03:46 PM
example of gamblers putting everything on the line in hopes of doubling their profits which time and time again has been proven to fail

but even if he had won and has doubled his money it doesn’t take away the fact that he still stole some money from someone else and that is a crime if he had just borrowed from someone else it would have been a completely different story altogether

It would have been a different story, but still a bad one. There is no reason why any gambler should steal or borrow to gamble. It indicates a high level of addiction. Imagine gambling with your money and not winning so is it when you steal or borrow that you will win?

The response to the above question is no because as far as gambling is concern nothing is so sure. If it was so sure then so many bookies must have gone bankrupt. Therefore, a gambler should learn to resist the urge to gamble when he had no amount he can afford to lose.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: Didia Sofunichi on December 29, 2024, 11:11:56 AM
This is clear stealing. There's no justification for stealing. This is yet another reason why gambling should be discouraged. People must be made to understand that gambling sites and platforms are designed to wreck you and make you remain poor.

People should also learn to gamble with what they can afford and not with stolen or borrowed funds
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: bitbit97 on December 29, 2024, 02:12:45 PM
This is clear stealing. There's no justification for stealing. This is yet another reason why gambling should be discouraged. People must be made to understand that gambling sites and platforms are designed to wreck you and make you remain poor.

People should also learn to gamble with what they can afford and not with stolen or borrowed funds

Try to think more wide. The guy, mentioned in first post, could have stolen money for other thing, for any other entertainment activity or goods that he wanted to buy immediately. This story has nothing to do with gambling, as it is more about parenting and giving proper education. If one guy or thousand guys stole money for gambling, that does not mean that millions who gamble will eventually also steal money. Instead of thinking that «gambling is created to make people poor», people should learn how to manage their money.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: Stompix on December 29, 2024, 02:30:58 PM
This is clear stealing. There's no justification for stealing. This is yet another reason why gambling should be discouraged. People must be made to understand that gambling sites and platforms are designed to wreck you and make you remain poor.

We should also discourage travelling since it cost you money and people might steal to afford, we should also ban movies, concerts, cars etc, you don't need them and spending money on them might turn you poor or make you steal to afford one.
Fix the problems in society first and do everything there then start banning things.
Title: Re: stealing to gamble
Post by: PX-Z on December 29, 2024, 02:38:40 PM
... he blames hunger and poverty as a reason for why he stole money but i think he just really wanted to gamble because if he were truly hungry he would have used the money to buy food and other necessities instead did he think that he could double his money through gambling?
Right? Reasoning out from a gambling addict. Much worst if he losses all of those stolen money. Regardless of how poor a person is, there are still lots of moral ways to earn money, stealing is out of the picture regardless where a person lives.