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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: bitterguy28 on December 10, 2024, 08:37:45 AM
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john cassidy wrote an article through the new yorker detailing about the internet bubble and what he thinks makes a big speculative asset grow in value he named four: a new technology that gets investors pumped; an efficient method they can use to communicate; the active participation of the financial industry; and a supportive policy environment.
years before crypto only had the first two: new technology and efficient method of communication but did not have the last two which were support from financial industry and policy makers but now we are seeing a shift of how crypto is perceived by the government and authorities
this difference in support might be the reason to let crypto stand out among previous speculative projects and thus it is no longer just all hype and crypto might eventually be used and seen as an asset with a purpose
what do you think? do you think there are more factors that could make crypto more successful than it is now?
read the full article here (https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-financial-page/how-long-will-the-trump-crypto-boom-last)
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Not sure but the market itself, I mean there could be new investors that will come along the way, that will push some crypto to it's all time high. But we all know that majority of crypto are going to be on a bubble this 2025 and it could burst after that.
Meaning we will go on another bear market, and those factors might not satisfy the market again. What I'm saying that I do not think there could be a factor that can be used to gauge as the market is very dynamic.
bear market = lowest low, and there are investors now willing to pour their money.
bull run = everyone is on FOMO
Sooner or later this bubble will burst and even if we have a supportive government policy that Trump will have next year, no one can stop it from bursting and then bear market comes along.
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a new technology that gets investors pumped; an efficient method they can use to communicate; the active participation of the financial industry; and a supportive policy environment.
what do you think? do you think there are more factors that could make crypto more successful than it is now?
I think there's nothing more to add. Since the cryptocurrency have embodied the four factors that John Cassidy posted to get out of the bubble, although it took time fore the two other factors to get integrated, it will eventually happen, and now that it's incorporated, the market is doing great and will continue to be great, it can disrupted if the chain is hacked which is uyp to now impossible to do.
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I think he was talking about the dot com bubble that happened in the early 2000s and he is not talking about anything positive about it being a new investment or money without the need for a central authority.
The revolution of Bitcoin came from the fact that it is a new idea where you can transfer money easily, without the need for a third party and a limited overall supply, which are options that were not available before and thus solved a problem and gave an option that was not available.
Read more about that bubble ----> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_bubble)
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Yes, I think the four factors mentioned above are all critical elements why we are seeing the dramatic rise of the cryptocurrency industry especially this year. Combined with what happened in the last election which can put Trump (a very pro-crypto politician based on his plans and pronouncements) back to the White House, people and financial institutions are all seeing the value that this industry is bringing and so they are now into Bitcoin and its respective ETFs now operating in the market as approved by the government. Going to the level of small investors, I think that the most important for them is that potential to make a windfall of money like getting x100 or even x100 and that is why we are continually getting the barrage of new memecoins introduced into the marketplace.
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Even gold is an speculative asset. As long as price can rise up and go down the next minute, it's attractive to speculators because there is money to earn.
The market is already good and better regulations I think is coming with the help of Trumps new SEC Chair. The adoption is also happening but the mass is not going to catch up with the price. It's too high right now. A person today doesn't even have $1000 savings because of high commodity prices.
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At the moment, the most important factor for the success of cryptocurrencies could be global adoption, I mean official adoption by governments around the world or at least buying Bitcoin as a reserve as announced by the United States.
This factor could play a major role in the success and prosperity of cryptocurrencies, which is the decision taken by the US government and followed by several countries to buy Bitcoin as a strategic reserve, this is a very important step that will enhance confidence in Bitcoin and encourage large companies to invest.
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Just like yhiaali3 mentioned, one of the biggest factor of growth for crypto currencies is adoption and that is the reason it would be very difficult for crypto currencies like bitcoin and Ethereum to just lose value within a very short time span. Talking about echnologies I'll say back a decade ago when bitcoin was newly launched, the idea of a new technology called crypto was was quite a setback it had that made people scared about adopting it at first.
The thing is investors are more inclined to invest in assets that they are above average sure will profit them in the long run and that was why as bitcoin price gradually grew over the years, it's adoption rate increased exponentially too .
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Just like yhiaali3 mentioned, one of the biggest factor of growth for crypto currencies is adoption and that is the reason it would be very difficult for crypto currencies like bitcoin and Ethereum to just lose value within a very short time span. Talking about echnologies I'll say back a decade ago when bitcoin was newly launched, the idea of a new technology called crypto was was quite a setback it had that made people scared about adopting it at first.
The thing is investors are more inclined to invest in assets that they are above average sure will profit them in the long run and that was why as bitcoin price gradually grew over the years, it's adoption rate increased exponentially too .
that's why the regulation was needed. blackrock and few others will not come in if they are unsure of the regulations.
but if there is something more that crypto needs to be successful is the support of the government. governments should be fighting back the globalist who influences our officials/banks to launch CBDCs we already identified those people who wants CBDC and who benefits from it.
its just about revolting from them that will accelerate the adoption and success of Bitcoin.
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By success you mean more mass adoption/popularity and price increase, then I guess it's the more politicians in power coming out in the open to support crypto ;D It's most likely the main catalyst now. But seriously, for more business people to enter, I think clarity on policies and favorable tax benefits are the most important.
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Even gold is an speculative asset. As long as price can rise up and go down the next minute, it's attractive to speculators because there is money to earn.
The market is already good and better regulations I think is coming with the help of Trumps new SEC Chair. The adoption is also happening but the mass is not going to catch up with the price. It's too high right now. A person today doesn't even have $1000 savings because of high commodity prices.
Yes, you are correct, gold is a speculative assets too because there is always a demand/supply principle governing the buying and selling of these items over times.
Adoptions is surely going to improve besides the coming of Donald Trump, the new US president elect. However, the price of bitcoin may be high now but an average person can also can afford to buy a fraction of it to Hold for the future. It is better to get a fraction than nothing.
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Yes, you are correct, gold is a speculative assets too because there is always a demand/supply principle governing the buying and selling of these items over times.
Adoptions is surely going to improve besides the coming of Donald Trump, the new US president elect. However, the price of bitcoin may be high now but an average person can also can afford to buy a fraction of it to Hold for the future. It is better to get a fraction than nothing.
Prices of assets such as gold and bitcoin vary with supply and demand, it only means that up and down prices are expected. For bitcoin for instance, despite the relative high price we can still stake a portion of it. However, what helps to continue is knowing that such a small step still gives a shot at feeling the result in the future. Should the new leaders embrace the growth of cryptos, this asset could be the best choice to invest in based on the growing acceptance of cryptos around the globe. The greatest thing is to avoid bad investment and do it within our capability to ensure that we do not put ourselves under pressure and unrest when some eventualities happen in the market. What we do today is putting moves towards the corner that we want to have in the future.
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Market cap value of Bitcoin is around 2 Trillion which is not a joke and almost same as the big companies in the world so governments can't take it as nothing anymore and I feel that made its way in the year 2017 itself when it grown to 5 figures when everyone thought it's going to be the end when it's almost crashed to 2K that point.
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john cassidy wrote an article through the new yorker detailing about the internet bubble and what he thinks makes a big speculative asset grow in value he named four: a new technology that gets investors pumped; an efficient method they can use to communicate; the active participation of the financial industry; and a supportive policy environment.
years before crypto only had the first two: new technology and efficient method of communication but did not have the last two which were support from financial industry and policy makers but now we are seeing a shift of how crypto is perceived by the government and authorities
this difference in support might be the reason to let crypto stand out among previous speculative projects and thus it is no longer just all hype and crypto might eventually be used and seen as an asset with a purpose
what do you think? do you think there are more factors that could make crypto more successful than it is now?
read the full article here (https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-financial-page/how-long-will-the-trump-crypto-boom-last)
Crypto will be more successful than it is now because Trump had promised it. The promises he made in favor of crypto will streamline its adoption and seeing USA other countries will also change their policies with crypto and make it crypto-friendly like Iran's Minister is speaking positively about crypto.
Although not a big market but still adoption is adoption, we have to admit. Overall, in the presidency of Trump, all narrative will pump too and as a whole I think maybe in this year BTC will surely cross the 2 trillion market cap. It can hit $150k.
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There is a big difference between the dot-com bubble and describing Bitcoin as a bubble. Despite reaching $100,000, there are not many articles describing Bitcoin as a bubble because of how it works and the nature of its growth. In the past, Bitcoin was viewed as a speculative asset with no use in the black market, but the current use cases and limited supply make $100,000 a normal price.
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this difference in support might be the reason to let crypto stand out among previous speculative projects and thus it is no longer just all hype and crypto might eventually be used and seen as an asset with a purpose
I don't think politics will change how a new project is developed. Maybe they can lessen the number of scams, but I doubt they will make 80% of new projects have legitimate use cases. Not to mention even before that many projects do offer unique ideas, although execution always fails for various reasons, not necessarily because the government doesn't support them. The team's eagerness to develop their ideas, their ability to navigate the market, etc are also important. I think the market and developer need to change if we want to see more projects with legitimate use cases, the easiest way would be to ignore purely speculative assets but I doubt that can happen at all. CMIIW.
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john cassidy wrote an article through the new yorker detailing about the internet bubble and what he thinks makes a big speculative asset grow in value he named four: a new technology that gets investors pumped; an efficient method they can use to communicate; the active participation of the financial industry; and a supportive policy environment.
years before crypto only had the first two: new technology and efficient method of communication but did not have the last two which were support from financial industry and policy makers but now we are seeing a shift of how crypto is perceived by the government and authorities
this difference in support might be the reason to let crypto stand out among previous speculative projects and thus it is no longer just all hype and crypto might eventually be used and seen as an asset with a purpose
what do you think? do you think there are more factors that could make crypto more successful than it is now?
read the full article here (https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-financial-page/how-long-will-the-trump-crypto-boom-last)
Yes, I think that there are many reasons will be successful in this factor. We can see that you also create four reason for this situation. So I am also agree with your prefer comment. Because we could understand in this time, bitcoin or cryptocurrency market is already achieve best position in this time. But if we follow in crypto currency market before few months ago, we can see that bitcoin price is staying under $60k in crypto currency market. So I believe that it will be true for cryptocurrency market in this position.
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Not sure but the market itself, I mean there could be new investors that will come along the way, that will push some crypto to it's all time high. But we all know that majority of crypto are going to be on a bubble this 2025 and it could burst after that.
Meaning we will go on another bear market, and those factors might not satisfy the market again. What I'm saying that I do not think there could be a factor that can be used to gauge as the market is very dynamic.
bear market = lowest low, and there are investors now willing to pour their money.
bull run = everyone is on FOMO
Sooner or later this bubble will burst and even if we have a supportive government policy that Trump will have next year, no one can stop it from bursting and then bear market comes along.
Though your state is not clear about bubble and Burst, but if meant that crypto is a bubble ready to burst, it is a statement that has no bearing on the crypto economy because many people who were critical bout bitcoin speak like this in the past, but they are now ashamed.
As a matter of facts, Bitcoin/altcoins markets is not a bubble/bust schemes, but the market respond to several factors that increases price over times, like demands/supply. Again, a bear market is not a Burst market, but it is part of the market trends outcomes at certain times