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Title: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: AMEBO on December 11, 2024, 05:25:52 PM
Microsoft shareholders have voted down a proposal to explore adding Bitcoin to the company's balance sheet during its annual meeting.

The proposal, introduced by the National Center for Public Policy Research, suggested allocating 1% of Microsoft's $78 billion in cash and marketable securities to Bitcoin as a hedge against inflation.

However, the company's board had recommended rejecting the measure, citing concerns about Bitcoin's volatility and emphasizing Microsoft's preference for stable investments.

Despite a last-minute effort by MicroStrategy executive chairman Michael Saylor to support the proposal, the board maintained its position that Bitcoin's volatility made it unsuitable for Microsoft's investment strategy.

Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on December 11, 2024, 10:55:16 PM
The use of bitcoin is not what we should force on people, they will by themselves go after it at the desired time, just that it might have taken long and they must have missed out on some several opportunities from it, we already have many who have long time ago talked negative words concerning bitcoin and so we have it today that they are now one of it strongest investors.
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: TomPluz on December 12, 2024, 08:13:20 AM


This can be an expected outcome since I understand that Microsoft is just another traditional organization that thrives more on stability and with that kind of mindset the proposal for Bitcoin was rejected. My guess is that many of the shareholders of this company can be old already and they are afraid of what Bitcoin can be bringing to their business. Certainly, there is no question that Bitcoin is a very volatile asset but that volatility is actually giving it the most profitable asset for investing so far. Years from now, I am sure that these same Microsoft shareholders will be looking back to this day when they say NO to Bitcoin and would wish that there is really a time machine for them to rectify the mistake.
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: robelneo on December 12, 2024, 03:53:15 PM

Despite a last-minute effort by MicroStrategy executive chairman Michael Saylor to support the proposal, the board maintained its position that Bitcoin's volatility made it unsuitable for Microsoft's investment strategy.
Its their loss anyway; Bitcoin have proven its profitability and resiliency over the years, and even though the market is highly volatile, the profit is still guaranteed.
The Microsoft board of investors do not see the potential of Bitcoin; after all these years, so many companies made a lot from investing on Bitcoin, they lack insight and proper research, They are going to regret this when Bitcoin reach a series of ATH in the future.
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: 0t3p0t on December 12, 2024, 05:19:44 PM

Despite a last-minute effort by MicroStrategy executive chairman Michael Saylor to support the proposal, the board maintained its position that Bitcoin's volatility made it unsuitable for Microsoft's investment strategy.
Its their loss anyway; Bitcoin have proven its profitability and resiliency over the years, and even though the market is highly volatile, the profit is still guaranteed.
The Microsoft board of investors do not see the potential of Bitcoin; after all these years, so many companies made a lot from investing on Bitcoin, they lack insight and proper research, They are going to regret this when Bitcoin reach a series of ATH in the future.
The fear that Microsofts board of investors feel is like those people around us that think negative about Bitcoin or crypto in general though we can't blame them because it is their right to choose though for us I mean in our perspective as crypto enthusiasts it's their loss if Bitcoin will make 2× or more the time they refused to include it as one of their assets.
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: rdluffy on December 12, 2024, 07:50:13 PM
I came to think that the shareholders would vote in favor of Bitcoin because of two important current factors:

1 - The price of BTC is excellent, at 100k and with a lot of optimism and appreciation this year
2 - President Trump's new administration could be very favorable and help the price to stay the same or even appreciate even more

But it seems that very few shareholders voted in favor of Bitcoin, let's see if amazon will vote for buy BTC hehehe
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: yhiaali3 on December 12, 2024, 09:04:38 PM
I wish they would vote for buying Bitcoin, Microsoft's entry into the Bitcoin market will have a huge positive impact on the market and investors in the long run, but unfortunately.

It seems that most of Microsoft's board of directors are old people who don't like change and don't want to risk something unknown to them, as for me I can't blame them because Microsoft is a big and old company and doesn't need to risk a highly volatile asset as they say, unlike MicroStrategy which was a small software company compared to Microsoft.
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: Stompix on December 13, 2024, 03:31:38 AM
It seems that most of Microsoft's board of directors are old people who don't like change and don't want to risk something unknown to them, as for me I can't blame them because Microsoft is a big and old company and doesn't need to risk a highly volatile asset as they say, unlike MicroStrategy which was a small software company compared to Microsoft.

It was the shareholders, so almost everyone who holds Microsoft shares voted against it!
Only 0.55% of the people owning Microsft shares voted for the proposal, so it's a clear thing, the ones basically owning the company don't want it do do anything like this!

Their money, their decision, just like your keys your coins!
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: bitterguy28 on December 13, 2024, 06:14:49 AM
It was the shareholders, so almost everyone who holds Microsoft shares voted against it!
Only 0.55% of the people owning Microsft shares voted for the proposal, so it's a clear thing, the ones basically owning the company don't want it do do anything like this!

Their money, their decision, just like your keys your coins!
that is true we can’t be too upset that they decided not to add bitcoin to their balance sheet at the end of the day it’s their loss not yours keep buying more bitcoin and holding it you have your own “balance sheet” that you should just focus on

if they end up regretting it then that is on them let them regret it and let them get left behind by other companies
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: bhadz on December 13, 2024, 08:31:48 AM
That is okay, they need further knowledge and research before they add Bitcoin to their balance sheet. If companies like BlackRock, Microstrategy and the others were able to make it, for sure that they're also going to make it easy once they have whole understanding about it. But for now, that's an idea that they need to consider and it's a vote of confidence from their boards so it's not just someone's decision to reject it but as a whole. It won't be surprising also if they have a maneuver to alter this decision or if they start announcing that they will add Bitcoin to their balance sheet soon.
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: ZAINmalik75 on December 13, 2024, 04:29:42 PM
Microsoft shareholders have voted down a proposal to explore adding Bitcoin to the company's balance sheet during its annual meeting.

The proposal, introduced by the National Center for Public Policy Research, suggested allocating 1% of Microsoft's $78 billion in cash and marketable securities to Bitcoin as a hedge against inflation.

However, the company's board had recommended rejecting the measure, citing concerns about Bitcoin's volatility and emphasizing Microsoft's preference for stable investments.

Despite a last-minute effort by MicroStrategy executive chairman Michael Saylor to support the proposal, the board maintained its position that Bitcoin's volatility made it unsuitable for Microsoft's investment strategy.
They made a big mistake but it is for their own good if they invested in BTC at this price in the bear run Microsoft would be losing half of their shares but %1 of their total market cap is not that much and even in the bear cycle this won't affect their shares.

1% of 1 billion is 780 million which is a big amount but for such a big company this should not be a big amount because Microstrategy has been invested in billions day by day and making profit in billions. This rejection from the board after votes was not healthy for the market but it recovered and the lose will be theirs.
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: Faisal2202 on December 13, 2024, 10:09:56 PM
They made a big mistake but it is for their own good if they invested in BTC at this price in the bear run Microsoft would be losing half of their shares but %1 of their total market cap is not that much and even in the bear cycle this won't affect their shares.

1% of 1 billion is 780 million which is a big amount but for such a big company this should not be a big amount because Microstrategy has been invested in billions day by day and making profit in billions. This rejection from the board after votes was not healthy for the market but it recovered and the lose will be theirs.
They really made a big mistake by not accepting the proposal I don't know who are these shareholders are who were given the authority to vote against it but seems like an internal matter because what in the world they won't invest in BTC and investing only %1 according to you, is really a small amount, and MSTR is really investing in billion and here they are worried about their not even a billion investment haha.

They are really so careful, this reminds me of a funny video that I watched in which one girl ask another girl whether will you choose 5k or 1 BTC she said I am a safe type so I will choose 5k cash haha, although she was not given the cash also it was a question alone but this is really funny how they have such a safe mentality.
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: Stompix on December 14, 2024, 09:14:11 AM
That is okay, they need further knowledge and research before they add Bitcoin to their balance sheet. If companies like BlackRock, Microstrategy and the others were able to make it, for sure that they're also going to make it easy once they have whole understanding about it.

Man, I love how people are so eager to judge who si right and who is wrong and who knows about stuff just based on some news!

Here is a thing:
0.55% of the shares owners voted for a bitcoin reserve
Blackrock owns 7.35% of Microsoft shares!

Do you know what this means? That Backrock and Vanguard voted against the proposal, sleep on it!
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: KryptoBull on December 15, 2024, 02:14:40 PM
They really made a big mistake by not accepting the proposal I don't know who are these shareholders are who were given the authority to vote against it but seems like an internal matter because what in the world they won't invest in BTC and investing only %1 according to you, is really a small amount, and MSTR is really investing in billion and here they are worried about their not even a billion investment haha.

They are really so careful, this reminds me of a funny video that I watched in which one girl ask another girl whether will you choose 5k or 1 BTC she said I am a safe type so I will choose 5k cash haha, although she was not given the cash also it was a question alone but this is really funny how they have such a safe mentality.
I am not surprised that almost all shareholders rejected BTC, with only 0.55% of shareholders agreeing. Clearly, they are not yet ready to accept the risks from the crypto market, and profits from the traditional market are still enough to satisfy them.

This even makes me happier that many large companies in the US market do not want to accept BTC. It means we are still in the early stages of the market and I still have the opportunity to book profits in 2025 and then buy back more BTC in the next crypto winter. I guess that large companies like Microsoft will join the market in the coming season.
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: defy on December 15, 2024, 06:21:02 PM

Despite a last-minute effort by MicroStrategy executive chairman Michael Saylor to support the proposal, the board maintained its position that Bitcoin's volatility made it unsuitable for Microsoft's investment strategy.
Its their loss anyway; Bitcoin have proven its profitability and resiliency over the years, and even though the market is highly volatile, the profit is still guaranteed.
The Microsoft board of investors do not see the potential of Bitcoin; after all these years, so many companies made a lot from investing on Bitcoin, they lack insight and proper research, They are going to regret this when Bitcoin reach a series of ATH in the future.
The fear that Microsofts board of investors feel is like those people around us that think negative about Bitcoin or crypto in general though we can't blame them because it is their right to choose though for us I mean in our perspective as crypto enthusiasts it's their loss if Bitcoin will make 2× or more the time they refused to include it as one of their assets.

Ah yes it is their right but it was always going to be a tough ask for them to adopt.

It was a bit of a slap i n the face for Michael to be only be allowed 3 minutes to present.

Anyway as Michael says "They will get Bitcoin at the price they deserve!"

They might be holding out to see exactly what happens in 2025, particularly with Trump
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: MRY on December 16, 2024, 08:03:31 AM
I am not surprised that almost all shareholders rejected BTC, with only 0.55% of shareholders agreeing. Clearly, they are not yet ready to accept the risks from the crypto market, and profits from the traditional market are still enough to satisfy them.

This even makes me happier that many large companies in the US market do not want to accept BTC. It means we are still in the early stages of the market and I still have the opportunity to book profits in 2025 and then buy back more BTC in the next crypto winter. I guess that large companies like Microsoft will join the market in the coming season.
This reaction of most shareholders to BTC simply means that this market is still nascent and that it is actually a great thing for those of us who engage in the market now.

The current disinterest of some of the big companies cannot last so long without them participating but, maybe they are just waiting for the best time. In the meantime what is good about it is that we are able to consolidate, regroup and plan for the next move. Once the big companies decide to take it up, I believe that adoption will trigger even higher benefits can be expected for those of us who adopted it early enough.
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: Asiska02 on December 16, 2024, 07:07:56 PM
Microsoft shareholders have voted down a proposal to explore adding Bitcoin to the company's balance sheet during its annual meeting.

The proposal, introduced by the National Center for Public Policy Research, suggested allocating 1% of Microsoft's $78 billion in cash and marketable securities to Bitcoin as a hedge against inflation.

However, the company's board had recommended rejecting the measure, citing concerns about Bitcoin's volatility and emphasizing Microsoft's preference for stable investments.

Despite a last-minute effort by MicroStrategy executive chairman Michael Saylor to support the proposal, the board maintained its position that Bitcoin's volatility made it unsuitable for Microsoft's investment strategy.

I totally agree with the decision of the board too. Bitcoin is very volatile even though it can be an edge against inflation. Bitcoin is such that it can’t be forced on anyone, let them understand what it entails, the advantage and disadvantages of having one as an asset kept for the future. If they’re able to understand this and are still okay to invest in it, they can then go on with their investment. Microsoft have seen how the investment of Microstrategy grew after investing in bitcoin and also the investment of El-Salvador in bitcoin, they’re all in big profits.

Those two are enough proof of why they should invest in bitcoin just using some percentage of their total assets into bitcoin, I don’t think it’ll really affect them even though bitcoin has its own volatility. With time, they will understand. It’s better they analyze it more and come to a conclusion about it soon so that they don’t regret it later or be in a state of had I know.
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: rdluffy on December 17, 2024, 04:23:08 PM
I totally agree with the decision of the board too. Bitcoin is very volatile even though it can be an edge against inflation. Bitcoin is such that it can’t be forced on anyone, let them understand what it entails, the advantage and disadvantages of having one as an asset kept for the future. If they’re able to understand this and are still okay to invest in it, they can then go on with their investment. Microsoft have seen how the investment of Microstrategy grew after investing in bitcoin and also the investment of El-Salvador in bitcoin, they’re all in big profits.

Those two are enough proof of why they should invest in bitcoin just using some percentage of their total assets into bitcoin, I don’t think it’ll really affect them even though bitcoin has its own volatility. With time, they will understand. It’s better they analyze it more and come to a conclusion about it soon so that they don’t regret it later or be in a state of had I know.

In my opinion, if I were a shareholder in the company, or someone with decision-making power, I would recommend buying BTC (but of course I'm not so impartial in this one)
It could be a small percentage, very small indeed, something like 1%
The trend is very favorable for Bitcoin, especially politically, so why not?
MS is a tech company, why not have the tech money?
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: Hisbullah on December 17, 2024, 09:29:08 PM
I totally agree with the decision of the board too. Bitcoin is very volatile even though it can be an edge against inflation. Bitcoin is such that it can’t be forced on anyone, let them understand what it entails, the advantage and disadvantages of having one as an asset kept for the future. If they’re able to understand this and are still okay to invest in it, they can then go on with their investment. Microsoft have seen how the investment of Microstrategy grew after investing in bitcoin and also the investment of El-Salvador in bitcoin, they’re all in big profits.

Those two are enough proof of why they should invest in bitcoin just using some percentage of their total assets into bitcoin, I don’t think it’ll really affect them even though bitcoin has its own volatility. With time, they will understand. It’s better they analyze it more and come to a conclusion about it soon so that they don’t regret it later or be in a state of had I know.

In my opinion, if I were a shareholder in the company, or someone with decision-making power, I would recommend buying BTC (but of course I'm not so impartial in this one)
It could be a small percentage, very small indeed, something like 1%
The trend is very favorable for Bitcoin, especially politically, so why not?
MS is a tech company, why not have the tech money?
If we have big money, especially large companies, the use of buying Bitcoin to get a profit next year because the Bullish Season will occur next year and currently there is still an opportunity to get a profit, if you want to buy.
MS is a large company, but all of the policies they must do an analysis before making a decision
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: Azharul on December 18, 2024, 03:42:49 AM
Microsoft shareholders have voted down a proposal to explore adding Bitcoin to the company's balance sheet during its annual meeting.

The proposal, introduced by the National Center for Public Policy Research, suggested allocating 1% of Microsoft's $78 billion in cash and marketable securities to Bitcoin as a hedge against inflation.

However, the company's board had recommended rejecting the measure, citing concerns about Bitcoin's volatility and emphasizing Microsoft's preference for stable investments.

Despite a last-minute effort by MicroStrategy executive chairman Michael Saylor to support the proposal, the board maintained its position that Bitcoin's volatility made it unsuitable for Microsoft's investment strategy.
Michael Saylor is also a best popular person in crypto currency would. But we could saw that he could be reject proposal to Microsoft shareholders into added Bitcoin to balance sheet. I think that it will not be a best decision for him. I think that it will be a great decision for him. Because we could saw that bitcoin price is increase gradually in cryptocurrency market. We could saw that Donald trump also best support from bitcoins. So I think that added balance sheet in this crypto would be a best decision.
Title: Re: Microsoft shareholders reject proposal to add Bitcoin to balance sheet
Post by: bayu7adi on December 18, 2024, 04:04:53 AM
Old people with old-fashioned thinking can't be far from something safe... they already have money, so they just try to maintain it, there is no intention to take more risks because besides the potential to get richer, it also has the potential to get poorer, even though it's only 1% of their own assets... subjectively they may already feel financially free and just want to face old age comfortably without thinking about anything else.

We can't completely blame that, because maybe when I reach that level, I will also take the same steps too... the psychology when at a high level is different from the psychology when at the current level... so I consider it a natural thing.