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Title: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: Bobcrypto on December 27, 2024, 04:12:40 AM
I have diligently taken some times to consider some reasons why we encountered many coin/tokens dumps, in my  opinion, one of the biggest reasons for coin/token dump is due to, ''WEAK HANDS''
Now, ''Weak Hands'', is term used to describe a Trader or an Investor that lack the confidence, resources, or the ability to hold their positions or stick to their trading plans. It also describes the behavior of inexperienced and emotional traders. Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: bayu7adi on December 27, 2024, 04:25:49 AM
I have diligently taken some times to consider some reasons why we encountered many coin/tokens dumps, in my  opinion, one of the biggest reasons for coin/token dump is due to, ''WEAK HANDS''
Now, ''Weak Hands'', is term used to describe a Trader or an Investor that lack the confidence, resources, or the ability to hold their positions or stick to their trading plans. It also describes the behavior of inexperienced and emotional traders. Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?
usually they are novice traders who do not have much experience, so their predictions are often wrong and they are doubtful of the analysis they do...

for those who already know the market movement pattern, it will be easier to control their emotions so that the decisions taken will not be hasty...

Usually, people will take the decision to sell when the market is experiencing a correction... it often happens, and the decision that seems hasty makes them do it, even though if they were a little more patient, they would have made a profit, considering that the market will bounce back.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: LogitechMouse on December 27, 2024, 07:13:40 AM
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Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?
Yes, they are.

Most of the investors are relying on the news and when they see a negative news on the internet, they often make decisions based on that decision alone hence, selling their holdings pushing the prices even further. We just saw it happened when the FED announcement during the 20th of December. I believe though that those who are selling their Bitcoins during a dump are the ones that are in profit and they're holding Bitcoin for a very long time already.

On the flip side, there are weak hands still and these are the newbies that are easily getting panicked. Whatever the case is, weak hands will stay especially in a volatile market like the crypto market.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: Hatchy on December 27, 2024, 07:50:22 AM
I have diligently taken some times to consider some reasons why we encountered many coin/tokens dumps, in my  opinion, one of the biggest reasons for coin/token dump is due to, ''WEAK HANDS''
Now, ''Weak Hands'', is term used to describe a Trader or an Investor that lack the confidence, resources, or the ability to hold their positions or stick to their trading plans. It also describes the behavior of inexperienced and emotional traders. Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?
Not totally correct but the ability to hold a trade is what makes you profitable on the long run and don't necessarily contribute to the market dumps.. dumps are cause by major investors removing their investments from the market. When such person sells off, the market experience huge dips and might have to sweep our alot of liquidity for it to regain a bullish momentum.. I don't trade much of crypto but from my experience trading forex, sometimes it's good to close a position at some points..

holding is good, but at some point when the market begins to consolidate or creates some patterns that signifies a lot of changes, it's best to take your profits as the market cannot be fully predictable.. I've been is such situations before when immediately I get the sign that the market is about to change its trend, I close and at that point the market immediately changes trend to the opposite sides... We just need to know when to and when not to close a trade...
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: jeraldskie11 on December 27, 2024, 08:26:12 AM
I don't totally agree with you. I believe that weak hands can cause the price to fall, but it's not the reason why the market dumps. There are big investors who are selling a large portion of the supply of a coin that will cause the price to fall, weak hands are just selling because they are afraid of losing more. They are not the main reason why the price fall but those big investors, weak hands money is just cents if we compare to those whales, and they can't dump the price by themselves.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: hugeblack on December 27, 2024, 01:20:57 PM
vRetail traders or weak hands do not make a change in the market but deepen this change so you find whales before they pump or dump the price they spread rumors, then they lower/increase the price by more than 10% and the panic of weak hands will cause a deep correction.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: milewilda on December 27, 2024, 02:05:00 PM
vRetail traders or weak hands do not make a change in the market but deepen this change so you find whales before they pump or dump the price they spread rumors, then they lower/increase the price by more than 10% and the panic of weak hands will cause a deep correction.
There's always those dumpers and not all dumpers are considered out to be newbies or those new investors out in the market on which even into those veterans or older ones will be doing such act specially if they've seen that the dip or correction is that way too deep on which they have seen that it is really that making a breakout into their position. Cutting off loses isnt really that a bad idea to make on which this is something that will be a common. When you do have that lacking of experience and understanding on how this market works then you do usually be ending up with having this kind of action but if you do have already that understanding then you do really know at least on what you should gonna do.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: Gurujebs on December 27, 2024, 03:38:26 PM
I have diligently taken some times to consider some reasons why we encountered many coin/tokens dumps, in my  opinion, one of the biggest reasons for coin/token dump is due to, ''WEAK HANDS''
Now, ''Weak Hands'', is term used to describe a Trader or an Investor that lack the confidence, resources, or the ability to hold their positions or stick to their trading plans. It also describes the behavior of inexperienced and emotional traders. Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?

Selling off the market isn't just about weak hands, they contribute to market fall but generally, all traders that are short term traders contribute as well. Some traders hold short positions of their trades and their profit is determine by the current situation of the market, if the market changes and they know it will affect th their positions, they quickly sell and this makes market to dump.

With this, are you going to blame them for protecting their trade? Absolutely no because everyone in crypto market is after the same money, so it's nothing personal but common interest of money among the traders.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: target on December 27, 2024, 04:36:56 PM

If they sell their coins due to I fear that market is draining, it's reasonable enough to sell. We could say they got weak hands but if the price was enough for them to profit and before they lose the profit, they take the opportunity to sell.

They are part of the community who does benefit of the price pump. Because they think holding means losing the ones they already won by doubting whether the bull market is over.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: robelneo on December 27, 2024, 06:07:00 PM
Now, ''Weak Hands'', is term used to describe a Trader or an Investor that lack the confidence, resources, or the ability to hold their positions or stick to their trading plans. It also describes the behavior of inexperienced and emotional traders. Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?

The main reason for this is the market condition that they cannot keep up analysing and trusting, so if there is a little movement of losing their investment, they will eventually sell; they are not comfortable with their investment and they cannot afford to lose.
They want quick profit, and they don't believe that market will eventually recover. I have so many friends like this; it is very easy for them to sell if they see their investment dipping.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: Sim_card on December 27, 2024, 06:47:16 PM
I have diligently taken some times to consider some reasons why we encountered many coin/tokens dumps, in my  opinion, one of the biggest reasons for coin/token dump is due to, ''WEAK HANDS''
Now, ''Weak Hands'', is term used to describe a Trader or an Investor that lack the confidence, resources, or the ability to hold their positions or stick to their trading plans. It also describes the behavior of inexperienced and emotional traders. Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?
I think the recent dump was because FED rate cut and some investors taking profit to celebrate the holiday and not because of weak hands. Traders cannot influence the price of bitcoin but big Whales. However, every market period is a blessing to investors because now that the market is bleeding, you can buy more Bitcoin at a cheaper rate.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: Asiska02 on December 27, 2024, 10:24:55 PM
Now, ''Weak Hands'', is term used to describe a Trader or an Investor that lack the confidence, resources, or the ability to hold their positions or stick to their trading plans. It also describes the behavior of inexperienced and emotional traders. Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?

They also contribute to token dumps and that’s because their emotional knowledge is not satisfactorily and they need to work on that before they jump into trading or investing. The market dump of many coins happened more as a result of investors not having trust in the project and their fear of losing all of their investments persuades them to take action and liquidate their holdings in such projects thereby dumping the value of the token more. Other factors are there that plays vital role to token dump but this is also another factor that can highly be considered too.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: Crypto Library on December 27, 2024, 10:57:12 PM
I have diligently taken some times to consider some reasons why we encountered many coin/tokens dumps, in my  opinion, one of the biggest reasons for coin/token dump is due to, ''WEAK HANDS''
Now, ''Weak Hands'', is term used to describe a Trader or an Investor that lack the confidence, resources, or the ability to hold their positions or stick to their trading plans. It also describes the behavior of inexperienced and emotional traders. Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?
Weak hand what ever we say it , newbie trader, emotional trader or anything else they where also the part of trading market. When a emotional trader make mistakes on the opposite side other professional trader make profit and this is how running this market.
And here yes there also a big reason for dump that those weak that they were influenced by FUD and in that large scale it makes the market dump.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: PX-Z on December 27, 2024, 11:18:48 PM
They are weak minds and heart instead of weak hands, these are those who easily getting lured, change of minds, emote for a little or huge movement of the market which mostly have newbie moves are usually cause of FUDs, and FOMO. It can't be helped though since its a free market and anyone can trade instead of just few others who are known as broker in stock markets.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: vegasus on December 27, 2024, 11:34:21 PM
This makes sense and is usually the case, especially if:
- weak hands
- Poor emotional management and control
- Easily panic
- Easily affected by FOMO
- No basic knowledge of crypto

if this exists, yes this will be a super combo of things that will probably fail more easily. and this may often happen to most beginners who don't want to learn from the beginning and just want to get rich quick.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: bhadz on December 27, 2024, 11:47:31 PM
The whales are the ones that contributes more of the market dumps than the weak hands. Because they can do anything such as making some bad news to make it scarier and force everyone to sell based on their emotions. They want every investor to be emotional for them to receive and buy the cheap sold coins that they have. So instead of the weak hands, I'd say that it is the whalea that moves the market and has a bigger contribution to each market that we are invested in.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: Bobcrypto on December 28, 2024, 05:51:19 AM
I don't totally agree with you. I believe that weak hands can cause the price to fall, but it's not the reason why the market dumps. There are big investors who are selling a large portion of the supply of a coin that will cause the price to fall, weak hands are just selling because they are afraid of losing more. They are not the main reason why the price fall but those big investors, weak hands money is just cents if we compare to those whales, and they can't dump the price by themselves.

Yeah, i understood your points, a heavy supply into the market by some whales could actually be one of the biggest reasons for heavy dump, but weak hands, who many be many in numbers can aid an extended heavy market dumps over times.
Like I said, I think that ''Weak Hands'', who are in their numbers, may aid a continuos selling pressure, or could aggravate an extended market dumps in my opinion.
Honestly, market dump is a big challenge because dumps are unexpected situation, and unpredictable, unlike normal market downtrends movements, analyst are able to predict to some extent. Market dumps may be the biggest traders drawbacks on maximizing profits.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: TomPluz on December 28, 2024, 11:34:11 AM


I think these traders who are exhibiting the WEAK HANDS syndrome should be barred from trading in 2025 so that Bitcoin can then easily reach the $200K target and even more. But am just kidding since we don't have the power to that besides we are always looking for inclusivity - even including those who seem do not really get it. Anyway, these people are part of the market dynamics adding more excitement and yes even gloom to the current situation. I am hoping that weak hands traders should see the light in 2025 and they would not do their usual stuffs next year.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: bitterguy28 on December 28, 2024, 01:10:08 PM
It also describes the behavior of inexperienced and emotional traders. Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?
while i think traders or investors with weak hands certainly exist and contribute to why coins drop even for a bit i do not think it is all there is obviously at some point people will always start taking profit which is why a coin has the tendency to drop and not continue its uprise trend for some they could interpret this as something else and start taking profit for the sake of being safe

in short i think there are way too much factors as to why a market dumps when it comes to traders or investors perception of the market and can't always be blamed on just one reason
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: Nheer on December 28, 2024, 01:53:21 PM


I think these traders who are exhibiting the WEAK HANDS syndrome should be barred from trading in 2025 so that Bitcoin can then easily reach the $200K target and even more. But am just kidding since we don't have the power to that besides we are always looking for inclusivity - even including those who seem do not really get it. Anyway, these people are part of the market dynamics adding more excitement and yes even gloom to the current situation. I am hoping that weak hands traders should see the light in 2025 and they would not do their usual stuffs next year.
lol thank my goodness you were kidding, trying to barred the weak hands in the crypto market is going to be tough and rude. I will say almost little percent of traders or investors have a strong belief and confidence about certain stocks and only few sticks to their trading strategy. Just a little dump many will lose confidence and they will surely sold out, a lot of traders don’t want to risk it all and end up having nothing at the end.
 
 Traders need to stick to their trading strategies and be confidence about what they want, I guess traders really get to understand the fundamentals moves of the market and have a strong understanding and belief against it and stop getting some project dump. Weak hands really get the market dump but sometimes we still need them with their little confidence to just move the market green.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: jeraldskie11 on December 28, 2024, 03:14:39 PM
I don't totally agree with you. I believe that weak hands can cause the price to fall, but it's not the reason why the market dumps. There are big investors who are selling a large portion of the supply of a coin that will cause the price to fall, weak hands are just selling because they are afraid of losing more. They are not the main reason why the price fall but those big investors, weak hands money is just cents if we compare to those whales, and they can't dump the price by themselves.

Yeah, i understood your points, a heavy supply into the market by some whales could actually be one of the biggest reasons for heavy dump, but weak hands, who many be many in numbers can aid an extended heavy market dumps over times.
Like I said, I think that ''Weak Hands'', who are in their numbers, may aid a continuos selling pressure, or could aggravate an extended market dumps in my opinion.
Honestly, market dump is a big challenge because dumps are unexpected situation, and unpredictable, unlike normal market downtrends movements, analyst are able to predict to some extent. Market dumps may be the biggest traders drawbacks on maximizing profits.
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say but the main reason of dumps are the whales who sold their assets. Usually whales don't sell a small amount as retail traders do. So we expect a big dump every time they sold their assets. Retail traders selling their assets because they are afraid of losing more which could lead to extended dumps. Market dumps sometimes caused by manipulation and big negative news about Bitcoin or cryptocurrency.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: Findingnemo on December 28, 2024, 03:36:23 PM
I have diligently taken some times to consider some reasons why we encountered many coin/tokens dumps, in my  opinion, one of the biggest reasons for coin/token dump is due to, ''WEAK HANDS''
Now, ''Weak Hands'', is term used to describe a Trader or an Investor that lack the confidence, resources, or the ability to hold their positions or stick to their trading plans. It also describes the behavior of inexperienced and emotional traders. Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?
Weak hands adds more fuel to the crash but they are not the reason in the first place, whales actually dumps the token soon after some growth which brings the red path followed by the weak hands who has no idea what to do, but just go ahead and sell them for loss which is the typical behaviour of weak hands or atleast in my opinion.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on December 28, 2024, 05:02:10 PM
I have diligently taken some times to consider some reasons why we encountered many coin/tokens dumps, in my  opinion, one of the biggest reasons for coin/token dump is due to, ''WEAK HANDS''
Now, ''Weak Hands'', is term used to describe a Trader or an Investor that lack the confidence, resources, or the ability to hold their positions or stick to their trading plans. It also describes the behavior of inexperienced and emotional traders. Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?
usually they are novice traders who do not have much experience, so their predictions are often wrong and they are doubtful of the analysis they do...

for those who already know the market movement pattern, it will be easier to control their emotions so that the decisions taken will not be hasty...

Usually, people will take the decision to sell when the market is experiencing a correction... it often happens, and the decision that seems hasty makes them do it, even though if they were a little more patient, they would have made a profit, considering that the market will bounce back.

     -       Even those who have been in the crypto trading field for a long time still make mistakes, I know some people here who I read in their posts, they still experience that their analysis is always opposite to the actual happening in the market movement of the coins they are trading with.

So if those who have been in the field for a long time still encounter this, just think about it, especially the novices you are talking about, mate, right?
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: Faisal2202 on December 28, 2024, 07:48:51 PM
I have diligently taken some times to consider some reasons why we encountered many coin/tokens dumps, in my  opinion, one of the biggest reasons for coin/token dump is due to, ''WEAK HANDS''
Now, ''Weak Hands'', is term used to describe a Trader or an Investor that lack the confidence, resources, or the ability to hold their positions or stick to their trading plans. It also describes the behavior of inexperienced and emotional traders. Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?
Market dump should never be blame on weak hands or whales or in other words strong hands because this is one hand and all the fingers are not equal so everyone trade according to their will and knowledge but only the smart ones can make profit although I agree with you that due to the acts of weak hands market can dump for example the upcoming event in which at 30 December USDT will be delisted from all the EU crypto exchanges.

If all these weak hands take this news rightfully the market might not dump otherwise things can really get wrong here. I don't think they contribute that much for the dump because the dump done by these weak hands are healthy because such dumps we all know are temporary and in such dumps we must fill our hands.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: MrSpasybo on December 28, 2024, 08:03:33 PM
I have diligently taken some times to consider some reasons why we encountered many coin/tokens dumps, in my  opinion, one of the biggest reasons for coin/token dump is due to, ''WEAK HANDS''
Now, ''Weak Hands'', is term used to describe a Trader or an Investor that lack the confidence, resources, or the ability to hold their positions or stick to their trading plans. It also describes the behavior of inexperienced and emotional traders. Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?
I don't believe weak hands are the primary cause of major market corrections. Sometimes investors with weak hands actually make greater profits than those with diamond hands.

I think the crypto market is still being manipulated by whales: as soon as whales take profits or stop supporting the token price with their abundant capital, the token price usually drops rapidly. Selling from the community is just a consequence, causing the token price to fall even further, just as planned by the whales. Whales trigger fear and investors act.

I used to blame weak hands, but now I think they are both accomplices and victims in the whales' market manipulation scheme. However, I also have no plans to save anyone, I just hope that I can find opportunities from market fluctuations and not become part of the losing crowd.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: Azharul on December 30, 2024, 09:51:52 AM
I don't totally agree with you. I believe that weak hands can cause the price to fall, but it's not the reason why the market dumps. There are big investors who are selling a large portion of the supply of a coin that will cause the price to fall, weak hands are just selling because they are afraid of losing more. They are not the main reason why the price fall but those big investors, weak hands money is just cents if we compare to those whales, and they can't dump the price by themselves.
I think that you could explain absolutely a prefer comment in your comment. So I am also agree with your prefer comment. We also know that weak hand can decrease market price in cryptocurrency market. But I believe that weak hand can pump and dump in crypto currency price in cryptocurrency market. So I think that if we want to trying conscious this situation, then crypto currency market must be increase gradually. So we should be understand in this system for best profit from cryptocurrency market.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 30, 2024, 10:11:23 PM
What I think is that it is a mix, they may be weak hands that are Always there in the market, but so many weak hands do not Manage or control the market, many of us Believe that there are many, but in reality I do not think they move even 5% of the market, for me there are other Reasons, perhaps a healthy correction, investors or those who made the effort to get btc to $100k , this time they are selling and recovering what they did , it is normal, but I see it as a normal market setback.

There is no need to Worry too much , it can continue to fall , but the important thing is that for these first months of 2025 it can take the price of btc to a very large one , I expect it at least at $120k.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: Chilwell on January 03, 2025, 09:36:26 AM
People with weak resolve are often controlled by their emotions, lacking the courage to confront difficulties and challenges. Fear of loss can lead to impulsive decisions, which may result in buying or selling at unfavorable prices, ultimately contributing to market volatility.
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: MUGNIA on January 03, 2025, 02:54:38 PM
weak hands, usually owned by novice traders or investors who are inexperienced in choosing coins to invest in, and most likely traders who buy when the price is high and they do not use cold money in their wallets so they do not want to lose much and then let go of what they have, we should not be able to blame them 100% the price of the coin will continue to fall because they also want to make a profit not a loss
Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: Stompix on January 03, 2025, 03:19:28 PM
Weak hands is the definition of cope from the ones holding their tokens and watching the red ones going down and down day after day.
Did the ones that sold ADA at 2$ weak hands? Are the ones that sold Eos at $20 each hands or smart ones?

These airs of superiority are just stupid, damn how I wish I would have sold back in 2021, I could have bought back in and triple my stash in 6 months!


Title: Re: Weak Hands, a reason for market dumps
Post by: gunhell16 on January 03, 2025, 04:21:46 PM
I have diligently taken some times to consider some reasons why we encountered many coin/tokens dumps, in my  opinion, one of the biggest reasons for coin/token dump is due to, ''WEAK HANDS''
Now, ''Weak Hands'', is term used to describe a Trader or an Investor that lack the confidence, resources, or the ability to hold their positions or stick to their trading plans. It also describes the behavior of inexperienced and emotional traders. Do you think they contribute more often than other reasons for coin/tokens dumps?

I think those are your assumptions dude, you may also be saying that according to your experience and things you know or have studied in trading. Then again, once you enter trading, it is not possible that you will not do it by putting money in, that is why we are called traders.

So does that mean you are also one of the weak hands? or did you just say this to traders who did not include yourself? Because from my knowledge, all traders who invest in trading are really contributing, whether they dump or pump. Then I just want to ask you, op, if it is okay with you, what do you want to emphasize on this topic that you did?