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Title: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: _act_ on January 05, 2025, 02:55:59 PM
In France, police rescued a 56 year old man doused in gasoline. The attacker broke into his home and tied him and his wife up. Took the man away and demanded for ransom fro m his son. If not because he shouted for help in the car he was, police would not have known and intervened. I guess the two captors demanded for crypto from his son.

In Pakistan, seven individuals including a Counter-Terrorism Department officer were arrested on 3rd of January for kidnapping a local crypto trader. The victim was Mohammed Arsalan who was kidnapped on 25th of December and he was forced to transfer 340,000 on his Binance account.

In Australia, a Saudi royal was lured into a kidnapping plot through a dating app. The Daily Mail reported that Catherine Colivas, a 24-year-old woman, lured the royal to her home, where three men, including her boyfriend, ambushed him. The victim was tied up and threatened with having his fingers cut off unless he transferred $40,000 in Bitcoin.

Toronto police are investigating the kidnapping of Dean Skurka, CEO of WonderFi, a Canadian crypto exchange. Skurka was abducted in downtown Toronto during rush hour on Nov. 6 and released after a $1 million ransom was electronically paid, according to CBC News.


https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-s-record-breaking-year-sees-spike-in-kidnappings-and-ransom-schemes
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: target on January 05, 2025, 04:27:57 PM

Criminals today are getting bolder. Not even wearing a mask when they commit their crimes.
Its not a good time to brag your crypto profit on social media. Someone out there could be just lurking to find out who they could victimised to earn a large sum because they know the person has money in an account.

And they know if you send a ransom money, it can't be taken back from them.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: hugeblack on January 05, 2025, 05:09:35 PM
Wouldn't it be easier to commit these crimes with cash? Unless these organizations are part of a huge money laundering network, it is difficult to convert these Bitcoins into cash without being caught and compared to cash crimes. Such crimes are still limited, but they alert us to the necessity of privacy and not disclosing what Bitcoins we own.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: bayu7adi on January 06, 2025, 04:10:35 AM
Wouldn't it be easier to commit these crimes with cash? Unless these organizations are part of a huge money laundering network, it is difficult to convert these Bitcoins into cash without being caught and compared to cash crimes. Such crimes are still limited, but they alert us to the necessity of privacy and not disclosing what Bitcoins we own.
Logically, cash is easier to rob, but the potential of Bitcoin is more interesting... a robber can rob a large amount of money without needing a backpack with Bitcoin... even digital transactions make it easier to get money...

Privacy is really something that must be protected, everyone has their own privacy... and strangely enough showing off wealth publicly just to want to be recognized by others, has more negative impacts than positive impacts... so stop showing your balance on social media... it's really useless, even if you write it just for motivation, but
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: yhiaali3 on January 06, 2025, 05:59:56 AM
I hope these increasing crimes of cryptocurrency theft force I hope they force governments to reconsider their fight against privacy, governments need to understand that maintaining privacy is very important for citizens.

These increasing incidents strongly indicate that maintaining privacy is not necessarily for illegal activities but rather that maintaining privacy is an integral part of the personal security of investors and their families at the same time.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: libert19 on January 06, 2025, 06:34:30 AM
Wouldn't it be easier to commit these crimes with cash? Unless these organizations are part of a huge money laundering network, it is difficult to convert these Bitcoins into cash without being caught and compared to cash crimes. Such crimes are still limited, but they alert us to the necessity of privacy and not disclosing what Bitcoins we own.

Crypto is more convenient than cash, don't it? Yes, it could be hard to convert to cash but for taking ransom it's as convenient as it gets — anonymity, quick transfer, no trace, no need to carry it in bag unlike cash.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: TomPluz on January 06, 2025, 10:24:52 AM

This news can be alarming for people whom the public knows got some crypto coins and tokens hidden somewhere...and this is one big reason why just like cryptocurrency we must put more value to privacy. Never ever let the whole world know that you are somehow involved with cryptocurrency most especially if you are living in a country where those kidnappings took place. As for me, these bad people are just be wasting their time as kidnapping me is not worth it. I could not even buy a new shirt last December so am so poor these days and in fact am accepting donations from anyone who made a lot of money in cryptocurrency last year. so pretend to be poor and never float your wealth around...and make sure you have some security in place around your house, just in case.

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Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: bitbit97 on January 06, 2025, 10:43:29 AM
I dont think that increased privacy would help to fight with kidnapping and ransom. What stops a criminal to kidnap a random person that seems to be having a family or someone that has a friend. Family and a friend would do everything anyway to save kidnapped person. Rich or poor will be forced to find and pay anyway. For kidnapper it will be at the same, to kidnap a millionaires child or average class persons child and ask for a $1 million ransom. A life is a life and anyone would do everything to get that money and help their child.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: target on January 06, 2025, 01:44:20 PM
I dont think that increased privacy would help to fight with kidnapping and ransom. What stops a criminal to kidnap a random person that seems to be having a family or someone that has a friend. Family and a friend would do everything anyway to save kidnapped person. Rich or poor will be forced to find and pay anyway. For kidnapper it will be at the same, to kidnap a millionaires child or average class persons child and ask for a $1 million ransom. A life is a life and anyone would do everything to get that money and help their child.

OP is not talking about random kidnapping.
OP's lists are crypto holders who ar kidnapped and the kidnappers specifically asked them BTC for the ransom which means these kidnappers are targeting crypto holders. 

It would have been avoided if they were not known to own Bitcoin. They were just too carefree to just let everyone know they are crypto owners.

Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: hugeblack on January 06, 2025, 01:45:03 PM
Logically, cash is easier to rob, but the potential of Bitcoin is more interesting... a robber can rob a large amount of money without needing a backpack with Bitcoin... even digital transactions make it easier to get money...

Yes, such crimes can happen with cash, bitcoin, visa, gold or any form of money. So I think such articles are biased towards bitcoin, but again privacy is important and you should not show your balance to others.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 06, 2025, 02:46:10 PM
it is not surprising though not any less disappointing

crypto is becoming a profitable industry more and more as the day goes by and this is becoming obvious to a lot of people unfortunately a lot of people instead of seeking profit by working hard and working honestly think about illegal acts for a much quicker and bigger profit it is such an injustice to those who work diligently without harming anyone

but anyway people with ill intentions will always exist and in fact would continue to just increase more so we should not expect anymore for them to be better rather let us just protect ourselves and keep our information safe and away from prying hands and curious eyes
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: bitbit97 on January 06, 2025, 04:54:25 PM
I dont think that increased privacy would help to fight with kidnapping and ransom. What stops a criminal to kidnap a random person that seems to be having a family or someone that has a friend. Family and a friend would do everything anyway to save kidnapped person. Rich or poor will be forced to find and pay anyway. For kidnapper it will be at the same, to kidnap a millionaires child or average class persons child and ask for a $1 million ransom. A life is a life and anyone would do everything to get that money and help their child.

OP is not talking about random kidnapping.
OP's lists are crypto holders who ar kidnapped and the kidnappers specifically asked them BTC for the ransom which means these kidnappers are targeting crypto holders. 

It would have been avoided if they were not known to own Bitcoin. They were just too carefree to just let everyone know they are crypto owners.

If you flash your money in wrong place and in front of wrong people, it does not matter if you are a crypto holder or a person with $100 banknote, as chances of being robbed or getting troubles increase greatly. I am not saying that we should not stay cautious all the time now, but in the article its only several cases, even more cases can be found if we make a search. But compared to the number of none-crypto, that isnt much to do something extra for privacy measures. Take a look on what is happening West Africa: +100k cases only during last year. Dont get me wrong. I am not saying that now we should deanonymize ourselves, show documents or accounts and wallets we have everywhere. I am only saying that reckless people with money will always find troubles. And people dont have to be exactly rich to get into problems with money.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: Stompix on January 06, 2025, 08:01:01 PM
Wouldn't it be easier to commit these crimes with cash?

Nope!
First, with the cash you can't get it that easy, even from most ATMs I can't get more than 5000 Euros at maximum here, in some countries the limits are $1000.

Second with crypto, unless they find your wallet you can claim forever you have not received the money, If you shove a QR code in front of the victim, and he makes the transfer then how would the police prove it is your adress? As for laundering and changing it into cash that is pretty easy, all you need is a mule to take it from an ATM, there are plenty of poor people who do that job for $100-$200.

Crypto is easier for most kidnappers, bank will track you and freeze your account before you manage to take the sum out, cash is not available, crypto can be carried in a  text message.

 

Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: Faisal2202 on January 07, 2025, 06:51:08 PM
In Pakistan, seven individuals including a Counter-Terrorism Department officer were arrested on 3rd of January for kidnapping a local crypto trader. The victim was Mohammed Arsalan who was kidnapped on 25th of December and he was forced to transfer 340,000 on his Binance account.
Cases are increasing day by day, and why this is happening now is also understandable because the market is very bullish and maybe these criminals think all the investors are making a good amount of money right now. I remember I invested a few hundred dollars in BTC and told my cousin, and he shared it with everyone almost, and even in some gatherings, he said he would have made good profits as BTC had not crossed $100k. I did not understand what to say, as in gatherings all people are family, so it does not matter.

But the point is we must keep the circle tight even if we have invested a small amount of money, as considering the inflation in the country for some, that amount can be enough. For example, the case that occurred in Pakistan was really frightening, and the authorities took action against those criminals, and surprisingly, those criminals were no one but the authorities themselves. Well, if the word is true, then I hope the victim can get a refund too, but not 100%.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: Gurujebs on January 07, 2025, 09:46:04 PM
https://cointelegraph.com/news/crypto-s-record-breaking-year-sees-spike-in-kidnappings-and-ransom-schemes

If there is good privacy in the first place by anyone involved in crypto, I'm sure there wouldn't be the problems we see here in crypto in the fist place because how can you arrest something that doesn't exists, it is better to ways avoid anything that can makes the work recognize your foot print this is why everything you doesn't doesn't have to get to the internet.

If you don't tell the work about heat you have, they will only leave a life guess, doubt but if you are very lousy person, there are somethings that you might not know about but because you are a loud person, ever one will start suspect you.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: robelneo on January 07, 2025, 10:52:02 PM
These are reported crimes of kidnapping where payment is through cryptocurrency, but there's a possibility that it's very rampant now and it's not just reported.
This is not yet happening in our country, as there are no reports of such cases, but as the popularity of cryptocurrency is happening in every country where cryptocurrency is popular, this could happen. It's part of our knowledge of cryptocurrency that we also learn how to value our privacy and about showing off to people what we got.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: AlphaBeta on January 08, 2025, 03:26:47 AM
I'm still not sure why they'd want that amount of payments in crypto, but that's besides the point, it's sad to see all of these happening.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: target on January 10, 2025, 01:44:35 PM
I dont think that increased privacy would help to fight with kidnapping and ransom. What stops a criminal to kidnap a random person that seems to be having a family or someone that has a friend. Family and a friend would do everything anyway to save kidnapped person. Rich or poor will be forced to find and pay anyway. For kidnapper it will be at the same, to kidnap a millionaires child or average class persons child and ask for a $1 million ransom. A life is a life and anyone would do everything to get that money and help their child.

OP is not talking about random kidnapping.
OP's lists are crypto holders who ar kidnapped and the kidnappers specifically asked them BTC for the ransom which means these kidnappers are targeting crypto holders. 

It would have been avoided if they were not known to own Bitcoin. They were just too carefree to just let everyone know they are crypto owners.

If you flash your money in wrong place and in front of wrong people, it does not matter if you are a crypto holder or a person with $100 banknote, as chances of being robbed or getting troubles increase greatly. I am not saying that we should not stay cautious all the time now, but in the article its only several cases, even more cases can be found if we make a search. But compared to the number of none-crypto, that isnt much to do something extra for privacy measures. Take a look on what is happening West Africa: +100k cases only during last year. Dont get me wrong. I am not saying that now we should deanonymize ourselves, show documents or accounts and wallets we have everywhere. I am only saying that reckless people with money will always find troubles. And people dont have to be exactly rich to get into problems with money.

Sure. But it's easier to get a way with crypto. One criminal will think twice of pointing a gun at someone when they can only get small amount of cash unlike with crypto where they could send large sum without limit.

Kidnappers in crypto doesn't need to meet up for the cash. Less risky for them to do this crime because they could just confirm payment thru the explorer.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: arabspaceship123 on January 12, 2025, 12:28:22 AM
They'd want ransom in crypto because they'll mix it to make it anonymous. It's sad to see these bad things happening but it won't stop we'll read about them more.

I'm still not sure why they'd want that amount of payments in crypto, but that's besides the point, it's sad to see all of these happening.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: Baofeng on January 12, 2025, 01:42:35 AM
They'd want ransom in crypto because they'll mix it to make it anonymous. It's sad to see these bad things happening but it won't stop we'll read about them more.

I'm still not sure why they'd want that amount of payments in crypto, but that's besides the point, it's sad to see all of these happening.

The thing is that if you are in crypto, you better not tell the public or don't flaunt your crypto in you social media otherwise you will be the target of crypto criminals.

We have heard a lot of this kidnappers lately, it's good that if they will keep their victims alive after they pay. But the worst is that they will unalive them and you can't trace the money because they are going to launder it or hide it from authorities.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: Bobcrypto on January 12, 2025, 10:36:10 AM
Wouldn't it be easier to commit these crimes with cash? Unless these organizations are part of a huge money laundering network, it is difficult to convert these Bitcoins into cash without being caught and compared to cash crimes. Such crimes are still limited, but they alert us to the necessity of privacy and not disclosing what Bitcoins we own.

Yes, those that are are found of making what they have, especially digital coins public will face many temptations. Likewise some people that goes to social networks as  crypto trading teachers or instructors may face similar risk of being kidnapped.
Now that these information of kidnapping is going frenzy, it is better to cease from some irrelevant habits of making financial declaration before unfamiliar Friends who may be pretending to love you where as they are those that may expose you. Lets be vigilant and watch out for people around us
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: arabspaceship123 on January 12, 2025, 06:00:08 PM
Stories about kidnappings worry ppl so it's right they shouldn't flaunt their crypto in public. If they're posting about crypto savings in social media they'll face problems. They've got keep some things private or else their inviting danger.

The thing is that if you are in crypto, you better not tell the public or don't flaunt your crypto in you social media otherwise you will be the target of crypto criminals.

We have heard a lot of this kidnappers lately, it's good that if they will keep their victims alive after they pay. But the worst is that they will unalive them and you can't trace the money because they are going to launder it or hide it from authorities.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: electronicash on January 12, 2025, 09:03:19 PM
Stories about kidnappings worry ppl so it's right they shouldn't flaunt their crypto in public. If they're posting about crypto savings in social media they'll face problems. They've got keep some things private or else their inviting danger.

The thing is that if you are in crypto, you better not tell the public or don't flaunt your crypto in you social media otherwise you will be the target of crypto criminals.

We have heard a lot of this kidnappers lately, it's good that if they will keep their victims alive after they pay. But the worst is that they will unalive them and you can't trace the money because they are going to launder it or hide it from authorities.

CEOs o crypto projects won't be able to stop themselves from posting though. its part of their job to tweet and show off what they do in the industry.

i think those people who also joins the bounty campaigns where they are to tweet and retweet on several social media accounts, so if they are using their real accounts, they are also in sort danger.  and if these kidnappers learns how small the coins they hold, they will just kill these guys since they can;t pay the demands the kidnappers are asking. too bad they show off they have tons of coins.


Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: Z-tight on January 12, 2025, 09:30:54 PM
$5 wrench attacks are happening more frequently these days, anything that will make people think you have BTC or crypto, i think it should be avoided. A lot of people have this feeling that anybody who is into crypto is rich, so if they have a chance to kidnap you and force you to send them crypto, they will do it.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: arabspaceship123 on January 13, 2025, 12:45:17 PM
CEO's don't have to stop posting it's their job they're expected to work but ordinary ppl using forums & social media better get used to limiting info about themselves. If they're holding coins for bounties they'll promote it but they'll be at risk of kidnappers but ppl using forums haven't been kidnapped.

CEOs o crypto projects won't be able to stop themselves from posting though. its part of their job to tweet and show off what they do in the industry.

i think those people who also joins the bounty campaigns where they are to tweet and retweet on several social media accounts, so if they are using their real accounts, they are also in sort danger.  and if these kidnappers learns how small the coins they hold, they will just kill these guys since they can;t pay the demands the kidnappers are asking. too bad they show off they have tons of coins.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: philipma1957 on January 14, 2025, 02:34:56 AM
Wouldn't it be easier to commit these crimes with cash? Unless these organizations are part of a huge money laundering network, it is difficult to convert these Bitcoins into cash without being caught and compared to cash crimes. Such crimes are still limited, but they alert us to the necessity of privacy and not disclosing what Bitcoins we own.
Logically, cash is easier to rob, but the potential of Bitcoin is more interesting... a robber can rob a large amount of money without needing a backpack with Bitcoin... even digital transactions make it easier to get money...

Privacy is really something that must be protected, everyone has their own privacy... and strangely enough showing off wealth publicly just to want to be recognized by others, has more negative impacts than positive impacts... so stop showing your balance on social media... it's really useless, even if you write it just for motivation, but

If you steal  BTC and you  wait a while you may think you can mix it a lot and not get caught.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: Z-tight on January 14, 2025, 10:16:04 AM
CEO's don't have to stop posting it's their job they're expected to work but ordinary ppl using forums & social media better get used to limiting info about themselves. If they're holding coins for bounties they'll promote it but they'll be at risk of kidnappers but ppl using forums haven't been kidnapped.
I also believe that most ceo's will be able to pay for security, especially the big ones, they would also have security advisers and stuffs like that. However, 'ordinary' people may not be afforded that luxury, so it is better to start by keeping shut about what you have, privacy is very important and can save you from losses.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: Rruchi man on January 14, 2025, 10:41:44 AM
CEO's don't have to stop posting it's their job they're expected to work but ordinary ppl using forums & social media better get used to limiting info about themselves.
When limiting information about yourself, it should not just be to people online because the people online are individuals offline as well, so you also have to be careful with offline individuals and what you tell them concerning yourself because by exposing or divulging too much information about yourself, you may be just putting yourself at risk. If your friends and family who you have told too much information about yourself do not directly attack you, it is not impossible for them to orchestrate and plan with other people from outside to do the evil on their behalf.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: LogitechMouse on January 15, 2025, 07:58:21 AM
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Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
I guess these isn't only applicable on people that are involved into crypto, but to all people in general.
Even you're not into crypto, you can still be a victim of kidnap and ransom.

I'm saying this because in general, we really need to be private. Unless you're a CEO, or an owner or a huge business, there's no need to brag your money or profits because that will just make you a victim of these kidnappers. Nowadays, these people can just abduct you in broad daylight despite having CCTVs everywhere. It's like they aren't afraid at all.

Let's keep ourselves as lowkey as possible, so we can live the best life that we want. Away from these f*cking kidnappers.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: electronicash on January 15, 2025, 07:26:05 PM
CEO's don't have to stop posting it's their job they're expected to work but ordinary ppl using forums & social media better get used to limiting info about themselves. If they're holding coins for bounties they'll promote it but they'll be at risk of kidnappers but ppl using forums haven't been kidnapped.
I also believe that most ceo's will be able to pay for security, especially the big ones, they would also have security advisers and stuffs like that. However, 'ordinary' people may not be afforded that luxury, so it is better to start by keeping shut about what you have, privacy is very important and can save you from losses.

they are just going to execute the ordinary ppl, the kidnappers already wasted and risked their lies in kidnapping them and no money to get while they already saw their faces.

there is more reason for us regular people in crypto to just keep our profile low because we can't afford to pay a million USD for our lives. the problem is that regular people are not aware,  they are not conscious that someone with bad intention is actually lurking on the social media network planing to kidnap for ransom.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: Baofeng on January 17, 2025, 12:20:23 PM
CEO's don't have to stop posting it's their job they're expected to work but ordinary ppl using forums & social media better get used to limiting info about themselves. If they're holding coins for bounties they'll promote it but they'll be at risk of kidnappers but ppl using forums haven't been kidnapped.
I also believe that most ceo's will be able to pay for security, especially the big ones, they would also have security advisers and stuffs like that. However, 'ordinary' people may not be afforded that luxury, so it is better to start by keeping shut about what you have, privacy is very important and can save you from losses.

It's more on us, I do remember that during like in 2018, everyone says that we should promote crypto. But now, it's the opposite, if we are into crypto, then we should be quiet and not talk about it in public.

For CEO's I remember one story though, that he was followed at home and was force to spill out the private keys of the holdings of his company and some other crypto as well. So not all of them hire bodyguards to protect them in and outside of their office.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: arabspaceship123 on January 25, 2025, 12:50:27 AM
If CEO's are followed home they can't do anything except hire personal security. When ordinary ppl invest they shouldn't boast about their cryptos because risks of kidnapping are real. It's getting dangerous for investors to talk about their cryptos.

It's more on us, I do remember that during like in 2018, everyone says that we should promote crypto. But now, it's the opposite, if we are into crypto, then we should be quiet and not talk about it in public.

For CEO's I remember one story though, that he was followed at home and was force to spill out the private keys of the holdings of his company and some other crypto as well. So not all of them hire bodyguards to protect them in and outside of their office.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: electronicash on January 25, 2025, 08:46:48 PM

rumor just yesterday was that a co founder of Ledger David Balland was kidnapped as well. his door was kicked and he was dragged out and kept for days demanding his coins. it happened in France.

he was only released because of police intervention. crypto users are going to be the target sooner.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: Z-tight on January 25, 2025, 09:36:33 PM
rumor just yesterday was that a co founder of Ledger David Balland was kidnapped as well. his door was kicked and he was dragged out and kept for days demanding his coins. it happened in France.
It is not a rumor, it actually happened, David Balland and his wife were kidnapped and taken to different locations, Balland is a co-founder of Ledger. The kidnappers then contacted another co-founder and requested $10m in usdt, which they got, but before getting it, they had already cut off one of Balland's finger.

Good thing is that Balland and his wife were rescued and the stolen funds in usdt were frozen and recovered by tether issuers. So the kidnappees got nothing and they have been arrested.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: Gurujebs on January 25, 2025, 09:56:07 PM

rumor just yesterday was that a co founder of Ledger David Balland was kidnapped as well. his door was kicked and he was dragged out and kept for days demanding his coins. it happened in France.

he was only released because of police intervention. crypto users are going to be the target sooner.

This is why nothing beat privacy. It's because he is known and popular for creating secured way to Bitcoin but those kidnappers are also not okay in their brain. If ledger co-founder was arrested, was there intentions is to collect all the seed phrase they have or they have other intensioms because the co-founder has nothing as seed phrase of the wallet they have made unless there's something more to this.

Its better to ways protect your privacy, if you hold larger amount of money in crypto, it's better you stay low, it's better that way so this kind of attempt doesn't have to repeat itself all the time. It's better they don't know that you have then they know because the world is full of bad people.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: Baofeng on January 25, 2025, 11:43:51 PM
rumor just yesterday was that a co founder of Ledger David Balland was kidnapped as well. his door was kicked and he was dragged out and kept for days demanding his coins. it happened in France.
It is not a rumor, it actually happened, David Balland and his wife were kidnapped and taken to different locations, Balland is a co-founder of Ledger. The kidnappers then contacted another co-founder and requested $10m in usdt, which they got, but before getting it, they had already cut off one of Balland's finger.

Good thing is that Balland and his wife were rescued and the stolen funds in usdt were frozen and recovered by tether issuers. So the kidnappees got nothing and they have been arrested.

Yes, it's not a rumor afterall, although in the beginning, I doubt the news because there's no reliable news except a personality in France. But now, it's confirmed, the kidnappers ask for a ransom and they paid but that money is frozen right now.

Hopefully, the kidnappers are going to be accepted.

And this is big lesson for us that criminals are really in the world that we live in, not just online hacks or scammers, not we are being threaten physically.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: arabspaceship123 on January 26, 2025, 12:10:03 AM
This isn't right the kidnappers tortured him they mutilated his hand before police rescued them. Balland & his wife went through hell. Less famous crypto ppl can't rely on police finding them if they get kidnapped.


rumor just yesterday was that a co founder of Ledger David Balland was kidnapped as well. his door was kicked and he was dragged out and kept for days demanding his coins. it happened in France.

he was only released because of police intervention. crypto users are going to be the target sooner.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: joniboini on January 26, 2025, 08:53:25 AM
Less famous crypto ppl can't rely on police finding them if they get kidnapped.
I believe it's better for them to not rely on the police in the first place. If you're not famous and don't work in crypto publicly, it is easier to stay anonymous when dealing with crypto. I doubt these kidnappers would target random strangers unless they're certain they have a good amount of money in their wallet, to begin with. I'm not sure how it is in other countries, but in my country, most people don't trust the police to do their job properly unless they're dealing with a high-profile case. Even then, lack of transparency and dubious trial results make us skeptical that the government can help us when it matters the most.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: bitbit97 on January 26, 2025, 10:54:17 AM
The more cryptocurrency prices rise, the more people get easy money out of nothing and just for holding, the more kidnapping and ransom cases there will be. It is not even about privacy, it is about how people get more and more money easily. And with the help of blockchain transparency, it is obvious that there will be always those who envy others and in their heads ideas of taking away fund with unfairly would appear.
Title: Re: Increasing kidnapping and ransom. Privacy is important.
Post by: arabspaceship123 on January 26, 2025, 10:24:11 PM
If small investors can't afford to buy private security so if they can't rely on the police who's going to protect them?

I believe it's better for them to not rely on the police in the first place. If you're not famous and don't work in crypto publicly, it is easier to stay anonymous when dealing with crypto. I doubt these kidnappers would target random strangers unless they're certain they have a good amount of money in their wallet, to begin with. I'm not sure how it is in other countries, but in my country, most people don't trust the police to do their job properly unless they're dealing with a high-profile case. Even then, lack of transparency and dubious trial results make us skeptical that the government can help us when it matters the most.