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Title: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: AlphaBeta on January 10, 2025, 04:13:43 PM
I'm not sure what people make of memecoins generally as an asset, I know that a lot of people have made a lot of profits from coins like DOGE, SHIBA and even PEPE.

Personally, I'm down for it especially when we have projects that are not limiting themselves to just hype.

Think of the the Shiba Inu ecosystem, evolving beyond memes, with $SHIB, $LEASH, and $BONE driving governance, staking, and utility, and even more recently, TREAT supporting key initiatives like Shibarium, SHIB metaverse and offering rewards, that's even besides the launch pool on Bitget and gempool on kucoin.

In the end, I just think it's a lot better if we have a few more that transcends just social media hype and celebrity endorsement.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: Mia Chloe on January 10, 2025, 09:05:16 PM
Meme coins are not investments as a result they should not be regarded as one or still they should not be viewed as assets too. Basically they are actually short term profit schemes and the fact is those that have a good understanding of the ecosystem and also good information from reliable sources are those that actually benefit the most from them .

you seldom find a real investment or asset that would hold up a good price for long going basically 10X it's initially value in just a couple of days or hours of launch. The problem is how easily liquidity comes in and how easily it's pulled out too.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: yhiaali3 on January 11, 2025, 05:36:16 AM
Yes, except for Shiba Inu, we don't have any memes that have a project, so we can't consider meme coins as an asset to hold for the long term.

They are basically coins that have no real value other than for speculation, some people buy them when there is hype around a meme coin and then quickly get rid of them when the hype dies down, so I doubt any investor would hold meme coins for the long term. Except maybe Doge, Pepe, and Shiba Inu.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: Crwth on January 11, 2025, 07:10:34 AM
If you mean reliable in the sense that you could profit from it, it's not. If you mean that as a community to be with and the people supporting it, it can be a good community. I see meme coins as something you could be a part of and find something that would be the same for your mentality, like supporting DOGE just because it's a meme coin, making it evident that no one is trying to profit from it at the start. The developers are just having fun. Right now, it's a different stage because some use it to get quick money.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: LogitechMouse on January 11, 2025, 12:18:52 PM
What do you mean when you say reliable?

Most of the meme coins are just for speculation (well, just like other coins too), and it isn't advisable to hold them for the long term unless you're ready to lose money just in case things go south. Most of the meme coins especially those below top 100 doesn't have any use case at all. It's good that SHIB is creating an ecosystem around it, and just to mention, FLOKI is also creating a game around it.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 12, 2025, 08:18:39 AM
I'm not sure what people make of memecoins generally as an asset, I know that a lot of people have made a lot of profits from coins like DOGE, SHIBA and even PEPE.

Personally, I'm down for it especially when we have projects that are not limiting themselves to just hype.
maybe in the future when memecoins have sorted themselves out and stopped becoming quick money grab schemes but right now i feel like people are still looking at memecoins with the purpose of getting money quick and nothing more so they do not hold memecoins for a long time 
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In the end, I just think it's a lot better if we have a few more that transcends just social media hype and celebrity endorsement.
i agree but also it is difficult to get rid of the very exact thing that created memecoins they exist because of social media and they continue to be relevant because of it as well
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on January 12, 2025, 05:53:46 PM
           -     Among the meme coins that we can say are in the top listing here in the crypto space, it can be said that many holders are buying them like Pepe, Shib, Doge, Floki, and others. And the majority of investors are probably only in it for the short term, I think.

And in the long term, I think they are focused on Doge, Shib, Pepe, and Floki, because these are the meme coins that can be said to be really going to be released when the massive rally or altcoin season comes.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: JoyMarsha on January 12, 2025, 09:55:58 PM
As a lot of people have made profits from memecoins, that's the same way many people have been experiencing loss of investment from memecoins, those who thought memecoins to be long term investment plans while it should be for short term.

Although just few memecoins
Like Dogecoin, pepecoin, and Bonk, Shiba Inu has managed to build strong communities and maintain a good marketing value over time. Many in the same vein are perceived as a scam as they disappear from the market, leaving many investors with a loss of investors
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: AMEBOIBADAN on January 14, 2025, 01:22:18 PM
I'm not sure what people make of memecoins generally as an asset, I know that a lot of people have made a lot of profits from coins like DOGE, SHIBA and even PEPE.

Personally, I'm down for it especially when we have projects that are not limiting themselves to just hype.

Think of the the Shiba Inu ecosystem, evolving beyond memes, with $SHIB, $LEASH, and $BONE driving governance, staking, and utility, and even more recently, TREAT supporting key initiatives like Shibarium, SHIB metaverse and offering rewards, that's even besides the launch pool on Bitget and gempool on kucoin.

In the end, I just think it's a lot better if we have a few more that transcends just social media hype and celebrity endorsement.




I couldn't agree more! The evolution of memecoins beyond just hype and celebrity endorsements is a game-changer. Projects like Shiba Inu, which have developed a robust ecosystem with real utility and governance, are setting a new standard. It's exciting to see innovation and substance driving the space, rather than just speculation and hype. Also thinking of participating in a launchpool and get to share $TREAT.
(https://i.ibb.co/VBgG5qS/1736854753257.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dKPvx52)


Let's hope more projects follow suit and bring real value to the table!
 (https://usefulwebtool.com/)
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 15, 2025, 04:45:05 AM
Although just few memecoins
Like Dogecoin, pepecoin, and Bonk, Shiba Inu has managed to build strong communities and maintain a good marketing value over time. Many in the same vein are perceived as a scam as they disappear from the market, leaving many investors with a loss of investors
this is why generally memecoins are not well accepted anymore a few memecoins out of hundreds possibly thousands of projects is not a good ratio and does not bode well for the entire community because the majority does not serve any purpose it makes it seem like nothing does and the chance of finding a good memecoin among many others is quite slim
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: TomPluz on January 16, 2025, 06:03:56 AM


As for me, memecoins seem like a gamble though there can be more chances of making money here than compared to the usual gambling options and that can be the reason why memecoins continue to make a mark in the cryptocurrency industry. Like gambling, there will be people that get the success they are looking for in terms of returns and there are those who unfortunately supported failed or stagnant projects. I hope there can be a study on what is percentage of success in memecoins compared to getting involved with other investment vehicles so we can found out the odds involved here. In 2025, memecoins will continue to dominate the chart with some projects that can be considered as breakaway while many other just died on the road to the meeting place.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: salad daging on January 16, 2025, 09:50:48 PM
That meme coin you mentioned has risen over 1000% and now you want to invest? It's a bit risky even though some meme coins have utility in development now.
I don't do memecoins anymore except for the last one in doge which had a 2x profit which was good enough.
But now it's not reliable anymore and will focus on something else.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: vegasus on January 16, 2025, 11:44:13 PM
How reliable?
If the problem is whether it is reliable or not, we can't seem to determine it with certainty. Because after all, usually the development of meme coins is really based on the community which is usually associated with FOMMO and hype. As long as the meme coins are still hype and many communities reach them, then the possibility of surviving is still good. but otherwise, it will easily burn out. oh yeah, for meme coins themselves, it can be one of the quick ways to make money from the hype of meme coins. but on the other hand, this is also one of the quick ways to spend money because it is so easy for meme coins to turn around and make us lose. so, it also depends on how prepared we are to use meme coins and how prepared we are before entering to meme coins.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: TomPluz on January 17, 2025, 02:42:07 PM

How reliable? If the problem is whether it is reliable or not, we can't seem to determine it with certainty. Because after all, usually the development of meme coins is really based on the community which is usually associated with FOMMO and hype.


I think the biggest problem with memecoins from the standpoint of small and new investors is that we usually hear and even celebrate those that make it while forgetting to even mention the so many, many other projects that just left or those who don't make it to the success stage. And yes, there are so many of them out there...in one estimate more than 90% of new memecoins will eventually fade and that means those who supported them lost money. In the past, I got somehow (though not really seriously) involved with HYIP (high yield investment program) and now I am seeing some big similarities between the two.


Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: hugeblack on January 17, 2025, 02:59:29 PM
memecoins as a package have had successes but each one has been seasonal and the long term trend is a continuous decline so even DOGE, SHIBA and even PEPE are not all bullish long term investment models so you will need to be lucky to make consistent profits.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: sampoerna on January 17, 2025, 11:28:16 PM
Before seeing how reliable meme coins are, I will first be aware of how capable my ability is to analyze meme coins and take advantage of opportunities to profit from meme coins. Honestly, so far, I personally still can't determine the most appropriate way that I can do to optimally get profits from meme coins.

However, for some other people, they seem to be very familiar with the meme coins process and get a lot of profits, even many times over easily from meme coins. Because of their ability to analyze, because of their experience, and the various things they have gone through in meme coins. While for me or people who are not familiar with meme coins, I am sure they will always think that this will not be reliable and will be more complicated and higher risk.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 18, 2025, 04:17:55 AM
Honestly, so far, I personally still can't determine the most appropriate way that I can do to optimally get profits from meme coins.
there is honestly no perfect way to determine the perfect memecoin to profit off of from i do think that a lot of it has to do with luck and timing so that is something you should focus on: your timing it’s very crucial when it comes to making profits from memecoins
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However, for some other people, they seem to be very familiar with the meme coins process and get a lot of profits, even many times over easily from meme coins.
they are the ones who are just well knowledgeable about all memecoins out there on social media platforms on telegram and etc they are updated which is why they can see which ones seem to have the best potential
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: MUGNIA on January 18, 2025, 02:22:29 PM
Meme coins are not investments as a result they should not be regarded as one or still they should not be viewed as assets too. Basically they are actually short term profit schemes and the fact is those that have a good understanding of the ecosystem and also good information from reliable sources are those that actually benefit the most from them .

you seldom find a real investment or asset that would hold up a good price for long going basically 10X it's initially value in just a couple of days or hours of launch. The problem is how easily liquidity comes in and how easily it's pulled out too.

I agree meme coins are not coins to invest in except doge in my opinion where doge coins are the oldest meme coins and were once an alternative coin for withdrawals between exchanges where doge sending fees used to be the cheapest compared to others
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: Report on January 19, 2025, 11:15:10 AM
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Think of the the Shiba Inu ecosystem, evolving beyond memes, with $SHIB, $LEASH, and $BONE driving governance, staking, and utility, and even more recently, TREAT supporting key initiatives like Shibarium, SHIB metaverse and offering rewards, that's even besides the launch pool on Bitget and gempool on kucoin.
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I would choose SHIBA as a reliable Meme coin because SHIBA has a lot of ecosystems that you mentioned. Among the famous SHIBA ecosystems are $SHIB, $LEASH, and $BONE and all three ecosystems are very vital for SHIBA's independence in the future.
DOGE can survive like this because it is the first Meme coin and Pepe may soon be extinct because Pepe is a Meme coin that has absolutely no utility, even though Pepe's market cap is very large but I'm not sure if Pepe can survive the high market for long.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on January 19, 2025, 02:41:10 PM
        -      I just noticed that since 2023 til now the meme coins has been so popular, and many millions of crypto communities have been discouraged due to meme coins that are read and known to have suddenly been trending in the crypto market.

And this lately the Trump Coin suddenly came to an end if I was not mistaken which would congrats to those who had earned a lot of it, and for sure there would be some more.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: Stompix on January 19, 2025, 03:50:04 PM
-∞, that's how much thy are.

Meme coins are by definition the opposite of reliable, they are born out of trends and hype, when that goes down so goes the coin.
The only way for them to survive is to actually become useful, like doge did, cheap coin that are easy to transfer and accepted everywhere, but once that happens, they are technically no longer meme coins.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: sampoerna on January 21, 2025, 11:15:59 PM
Honestly, so far, I personally still can't determine the most appropriate way that I can do to optimally get profits from meme coins.
there is honestly no perfect way to determine the perfect memecoin to profit off of from i do think that a lot of it has to do with luck and timing so that is something you should focus on: your timing it’s very crucial when it comes to making profits from memecoins
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However, for some other people, they seem to be very familiar with the meme coins process and get a lot of profits, even many times over easily from meme coins.
they are the ones who are just well knowledgeable about all memecoins out there on social media platforms on telegram and etc they are updated which is why they can see which ones seem to have the best potential
Of course, there are no perfect ways, that's why I'm looking for the most appropriate way, and of course, "appropriate" here may also be different for each person. And because emme coins are high risks with uncertainty, there is indeed no perfect way to always get profits, there will definitely be a risk of losing or only a little profit.

Well. meme coins do look promising when we see those who harvest profits in large amounts, because of their abilities, their habits, the results of their analysis and efforts, and maybe also their luck to optimize the chance, so they managed to get big profits from meme coins.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: Bobcrypto on January 23, 2025, 08:33:38 AM
-∞, that's how much thy are.

Meme coins are by definition the opposite of reliable, they are born out of trends and hype, when that goes down so goes the coin.
The only way for them to survive is to actually become useful, like doge did, cheap coin that are easy to transfer and accepted everywhere, but once that happens, they are technically no longer meme coins.

Memecoins are designed as a joke coin, funs and excitement. However, in recent times memecoins has suddenly become investors and traders choice, and there are hype and heavy promotions by individuals through speculations.
I think that many meme coins  has made some success with good marketcap, and daily trading volumes. meme like Dogecoin, Shibainu, Pepe are doing great, probability more meme like the new Trump meme may compete with the old meme coins in near future.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: debra on January 23, 2025, 11:45:35 PM
I agree meme coins are not coins to invest in except doge in my opinion where doge coins are the oldest meme coins and were once an alternative coin for withdrawals between exchanges where doge sending fees used to be the cheapest compared to others
Doge is a pioneer of meme coins, before the hype, Doge already had many communities, and this coin is also often used for transactions and also prizes for various programs. However, since Doge hype, there have been many meme coins, almost every day there is a new meme coin. and the process is the same, hype first, then drop. that's why if there are still those who believe in investing in meme coins for the long term, this is a very high risk taker, and maybe lack of experience. because meme coins are really only for the short term, you have to really quickly take the profit, it will be difficult if the price drops.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: bayu7adi on January 24, 2025, 07:43:10 AM
I agree meme coins are not coins to invest in except doge in my opinion where doge coins are the oldest meme coins and were once an alternative coin for withdrawals between exchanges where doge sending fees used to be the cheapest compared to others
Although it is not a planned use case by the DOGE #DevelopmentTeam , it is also one of its benefits... we can see now that DOGE is the number one memecoin and the hype about memecoins always brings DOGE in a positive direction...

DOGE has a strong identity, so its existence can be compared to other topcoins... as long as DOGE still exists, then memecoins will remain reliable
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on January 24, 2025, 03:38:00 PM
I agree meme coins are not coins to invest in except doge in my opinion where doge coins are the oldest meme coins and were once an alternative coin for withdrawals between exchanges where doge sending fees used to be the cheapest compared to others
Although it is not a planned use case by the DOGE #DevelopmentTeam , it is also one of its benefits... we can see now that DOGE is the number one memecoin and the hype about memecoins always brings DOGE in a positive direction...

DOGE has a strong identity, so its existence can be compared to other topcoins... as long as DOGE still exists, then memecoins will remain reliable
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         -      Dogecoin is one of the pioneering meme coins in the crypto space and that is one of the biggest advantages and benefits of Doge compared to other meme coins. Because when it comes to communities, there are really a lot of communities for Doge, that's what I found according to my research.

I also collect it honestly speaking, but the majority of what I do with dca are Bonk, Pepe and shib, then there are also some other meme coins like Not, Dogs, Floki, and Aidoge and let's include Babydoge first.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: MUGNIA on January 24, 2025, 04:10:40 PM
I agree meme coins are not coins to invest in except doge in my opinion where doge coins are the oldest meme coins and were once an alternative coin for withdrawals between exchanges where doge sending fees used to be the cheapest compared to others
Although it is not a planned use case by the DOGE #DevelopmentTeam , it is also one of its benefits... we can see now that DOGE is the number one memecoin and the hype about memecoins always brings DOGE in a positive direction...

DOGE has a strong identity, so its existence can be compared to other topcoins... as long as DOGE still exists, then memecoins will remain reliable
This strong community is what makes Doge survive until now, Doge's existence is comparable to top coins, no matter what rank, I don't hesitate to save my Doge until it reaches $1
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: electronicash on January 24, 2025, 04:20:50 PM

we may not look at these memecoins as investment but theie value actually grow higher as time goes like that doge. Shib also go up over time. 

If you are questioning about Trump coin, there isn't something on it but its supported by preside t though. how else can it have value but the words of the highest official.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: Stompix on January 24, 2025, 04:38:15 PM
I think that many meme coins  has made some success with good marketcap, and daily trading volumes. meme like Dogecoin, Shibainu, Pepe are doing great, probability more meme like the new Trump meme may compete with the old meme coins in near future.

Don't compare doge with the others.
Doge has its own chain, it's minable, it didn't have an ICO, it was free to mine right from the start, there was no presale, it's cheap easy to transact it doesn't get affected by the traffic on the other chain, it's accepted almost everywhere, essentially Doge is just Bitcoin with a few changes.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: Rruchi man on January 24, 2025, 11:59:22 PM
I'm not sure what people make of memecoins generally as an asset, I know that a lot of people have made a lot of profits from coins like DOGE, SHIBA and even PEPE.
Regardless of the profit that has been made from mem coins, we still have to be careful with them because they are not as reliable as bitcoins and may not be the best option for recomendation to a newbie who is looking for what to invest in.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: Rubel007 on January 26, 2025, 06:19:12 PM
Most of the cryptocurrency investors invest in some memecoin. And there are many reasons for making such investments. Especially by investing in memecoins, an investor can get a large amount of money in a short time, which is not possible in any other investment so quickly. But at present, it is unlikely that investing in meme coins will get good returns as before. Because we have seen for a long time that there is no pumping event in meme coins. Neither Pepe nor Shib coins could give investors good profit. However, when such coins were new, many investors got good returns. According to the current conditions, it must be said that these coins will never make an investor successful in the long run.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: albon on January 29, 2025, 05:48:29 PM
Invested in meme coin may seem like a way to get something from social media but before you move forward, make sure you know the risks. A meme coin which is boom on social media also can also explode on social media and so well check out well. When the hype of a meme is finished, the rapid trading volume may decrease rapidly which will hold you with the investment bag of proverbs. You also want to make sure that your decision to buy a meme stock is not powered by FOMO, so it is a kind of emotional shopping that you can make decisions that you will regret.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: Bobcrypto on January 30, 2025, 10:34:18 AM
Yes, except for Shiba Inu, we don't have any memes that have a project, so we can't consider meme coins as an asset to hold for the long term.

They are basically coins that have no real value other than for speculation, some people buy them when there is hype around a meme coin and then quickly get rid of them when the hype dies down, so I doubt any investor would hold meme coins for the long term. Except maybe Doge, Pepe, and Shiba Inu.

Yes, generally speaking, memecoins may not have been consider as an assets class but I think some people in recent times have taken meme coins as a typical assets going by the amount of funds going into meme coins investments this days.
There are even news that meme coins projects are filling for ETF registrations, and if approve, I think that meme may turn the biggest investments opportunities even surpassing many utilities token investment returns in near future.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: yhiaali3 on January 30, 2025, 11:56:06 AM
There are even news that meme coins projects are filling for ETF registrations, and if approve, I think that meme may turn the biggest investments opportunities even surpassing many utilities token investment returns in near future.
Yes I heard that, at first I thought it was just a joke but then it turned out that this is very serious and there is a Doge and Trump candidate for ETF approval.

Although it is far from logical but since Doge (Elon Musk's favorite coin) and Trump meme are special to the US President then there is no need to be surprised and there is no need for logic even, we are now in the crazy time of Trump and Elon Musk!!!  :-\
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: PX-Z on January 30, 2025, 12:28:25 PM
Reliable? Do you mean how they are reliable as income or/and investment? No, they don't, it's risky to invest to any memecoin, especially the new ones, but I might consider for the old ones.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: JISAN on January 30, 2025, 06:14:55 PM
memecoin is not reliable but it is very profitable. Many people can make millions of dollars in profits with very little investment. But they must be a good coin investment. There is a lot of hype about memecoin in the market due to which many scammers take advantage of it and launch fake coins in the market. So if you invest in them there is a possibility of losing the entire fund instead of making a profit. So definitely invest in memecoin with caution. Then it is possible to make good profit from here
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 30, 2025, 07:40:51 PM
I'm not sure what people make of memecoins generally as an asset, I know that a lot of people have made a lot of profits from coins like DOGE, SHIBA and even PEPE.

If every coins could have been the same way as these ones have performed, then people will have no reason of being in doubt over the use of crypto memes, because they is this certainty for them to rise and make their investors earn some reasonable amount of profits, but things doesn't work like this in some cases, you will only discover that people are investing and yet making loses upon the risk they might have taken, except for few memecoins that have been consistent in well doing being profitable.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: vegasus on January 30, 2025, 11:14:55 PM
memecoin is not reliable but it is very profitable. Many people can make millions of dollars in profits with very little investment. But they must be a good coin investment. There is a lot of hype about memecoin in the market due to which many scammers take advantage of it and launch fake coins in the market. So if you invest in them there is a possibility of losing the entire fund instead of making a profit. So definitely invest in memecoin with caution. Then it is possible to make good profit from here
And the profits are in accordance with the risks, yes, high risks, high gains. It's just that, how clever and smart we are in assessing meme coins so that they can generate or bring high profits, because not everyone is able to do it well and wisely. It's just that, indeed in some cases, this really happens and can get results that are very much in accordance with expectations. So, keep trying and do analysis from various angles
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: bettercrypto on January 31, 2025, 09:48:53 AM
Maybe we can only say that a meme coin is reliable if it gives us profit, it's very simple to understand, right? That's all. Even if we say that meme coins have potential but don't give you earnings, how can it be reliable? You get it?

That means even if they are shitcoins, if they give you profit, you can consider them reliable, then look for other meme coins that have more potential
than the meme coins you chose.
Title: Re: How reliable are memecoins?
Post by: Gposas on January 31, 2025, 10:28:57 PM
Yes, except for Shiba Inu, we don't have any memes that have a project, so we can't consider meme coins as an asset to hold for the long term.

They are basically coins that have no real value other than for speculation, some people buy them when there is hype around a meme coin and then quickly get rid of them when the hype dies down, so I doubt any investor would hold meme coins for the long term. Except maybe Doge, Pepe, and Shiba Inu.

Your right mate, memecoins is linked with hypes and news which results in a little duration pump in price and traders gather profits and quickly sell off and take their gains.. causing it's high volatility.
Though we view the memecoin as just a fun coin, you still need to know that these memecoins has larger volumes compared to other coins with utility...
These coins even buy the interest of investors more... So, no matter what, there are still those who has a long term investment on these assets.

To me, I see them as good assets to trade on rather than placing investments.