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Wider Crypto World => Gambling & Crypto Casinos => Gambling discussion => Topic started by: Penlex_Writer on January 17, 2025, 10:39:03 PM
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Due to findings bible did not condemn gamble or betting as sin but addiction to it is sin,while bible condemn the love of money,but as a gambler you have already love the money before involving,a gambler has an objective and that objective is to win to double your stake,due to my conclusion those playing it for fun are not sinners,while the addicted one's are sinners.
LET US PUT IDEAS TOGHETHER TO CLERIFY OURSELVES.
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The forum is not only made up of Christian members, and sin in different religions means different things.
I believe that if your religion permits you to gamble, then it may actually be that you're not sinning, but if your religion is against gambling, it is sin that you are indulging in.
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Due to findings bible did not condemn gamble or betting as sin but addiction to it is sin,while bible condemn the love of money,but as a gambler you have already love the money before involving,a gambler has an objective and that objective is to win to double your stake,due to my conclusion those playing it for fun are not sinners,while the addicted one's are sinners.
LET US PUT IDEAS TOGHETHER TO CLERIFY OURSELVES.
I think you should state relevant scriptures that justifies the morality of gambling and you should also know that what constitutes sin is subjective as what might appear as sinful to Christians might not to Adherents of Africa Traditional Religion (ATR)
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Gambling is a very broad term and we can't put all of it into one bag.
Example: participation in a charity raffle is also a form of gambling but it's not even close to risking all your family's money in the casino.
I'd say motivation and restraint are the key to assessing whether certain gambling activity is sinful or not.
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Gambling is a very broad term and we can't put all of it into one bag.
Example: participation in a charity raffle is also a form of gambling but it's not even close to risking all your family's money in the casino.
I'd say motivation and restraint are the key to assessing whether certain gambling activity is sinful or not.
Losing all your family’s money is not a sin, yes it’s wrong to have done that but that doesn’t mean you’ve sinned, maybe against your family, but not against God. So many religions condemn gambling, not necessarily because gambling is a sin but because it is very addictive and the spiritual leaders understands the impact and consequences of gambling addiction, thus the reason why they choose to teach against it, it’s not gambling itself that’s a sin but certain things gambling can make you do when you suddenly get addicted.
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The forum is not only made up of Christian members, and sin in different religions means different things.
I believe that if your religion permits you to gamble, then it may actually be that you're not sinning, but if your religion is against gambling, it is sin that you are indulging in.
yeah is true,if your religion is against it is a sin in making an attempt,it all depends on the religion you are into.
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Gambling is a very broad term and we can't put all of it into one bag.
Example: participation in a charity raffle is also a form of gambling but it's not even close to risking all your family's money in the casino.
I'd say motivation and restraint are the key to assessing whether certain gambling activity is sinful or not.
Gamble is very broad yes,while the charity raffle accords citizens the opportunity to join hands to power sustainable.
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Losing all your family’s money is not a sin, yes it’s wrong to have done that but that doesn’t mean you’ve sinned, maybe against your family, but not against God. So many religions condemn gambling, not necessarily because gambling is a sin but because it is very addictive and the spiritual leaders understands the impact and consequences of gambling addiction, thus the reason why they choose to teach against it, it’s not gambling itself that’s a sin but certain things gambling can make you do when you suddenly get addicted.
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If you're talking about Christianity than I disagree. Sins are not limited to the Ten Commandments and extend to many other areas.
Christians are called to be good stewards of their resources, using their money and time wisely. The example you brought clearly put desire for money over wellbeing of your family. Definitely a sin.
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Losing all your family’s money is not a sin, yes it’s wrong to have done that but that doesn’t mean you’ve sinned, maybe against your family, but not against God. So many religions condemn gambling, not necessarily because gambling is a sin but because it is very addictive and the spiritual leaders understands the impact and consequences of gambling addiction, thus the reason why they choose to teach against it, it’s not gambling itself that’s a sin but certain things gambling can make you do when you suddenly get addicted.
If you're talking about Christianity than I disagree. Sins are not limited to the Ten Commandments and extend to many other areas.
Christians are called to be good stewards of their resources, using their money and time wisely. The example you brought clearly put desire for money over wellbeing of your family. Definitely a sin.
[/quote]i agree with you in terms of loosing your family's money is not a sin,but if you categorize betting as a sin i still have a little doubts because that same bible tells us is not a sin unless addiction has taken place.
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If you're talking about Christianity than I disagree. Sins are not limited to the Ten Commandments and extend to many other areas.
Christians are called to be good stewards of their resources, using their money and time wisely. The example you brought clearly put desire for money over wellbeing of your family. Definitely a sin.
Well, I didn’t border my statement on a particular religion, but then again, let’s assume we are talking about Christianity, you’re not completely wrong, but then again, what if the intentions behind the actions weren’t exactly how you’re thinking it. Lets assume the person in question is in custody of his family’s money which they intended to use for something in the future, and since they didn’t have any use for it at the moment, decided to wager it in order to make more profit until whenever the money was needed and then things didn’t go as planned.
Even in the bible, if you remember vividly, the parable of the talents, where a master entrusted some money/talent to his servants and went on a journey, the servants also used the money to trade, either in business or whatever, I don’t know, but they made some extra bucks for their master and he was pleased with the servants, what if this was the same very intention the person has and spiral out of control, would you say he has sinned?
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I don't think it's sin per se but the notion has always been that it's good to stay away from it. In Hinduism, there is scriptural book called 'Mahabharta' where king basically lost everything by gambling, it's not directly told as a sin but the learning has always been there.
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It would certainly be wrong to call gambling a sin. It may be that after a person becomes addicted to gambling, he engages in some activities to manage his money which are not right and which will be considered as sin religiously. But if someone is able to control himself even after losing money in gambling, then we cannot call gambling a sin.
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playing it for fun are not sinners,while the addicted one's are sinners.
LET US PUT IDEAS TOGHETHER TO CLERIFY OURSELVES.
If you're already harming yourself, your finances, and everything around you and resort to doing bad things just to get money to sustain your addiction, then yes, you are a sinner, but if you gamble for fun and you limit what you spend and your time, you put gambling in the right perspective and you are good and it will not make you a sinner. Addiction to gambling can cause you to harm everything around you, and you will end up stealing, and that's a big sin.
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Due to findings bible did not condemn gamble or betting as sin but addiction to it is sin,while bible condemn the love of money,but as a gambler you have already love the money before involving,a gambler has an objective and that objective is to win to double your stake,due to my conclusion those playing it for fun are not sinners,while the addicted one's are sinners.
LET US PUT IDEAS TOGHETHER TO CLERIFY OURSELVES.
I haven't looked deeply into the Bible on gambling, is it actually a sin or something else. But I believe that nothing is good in excess. And that which is harmful to us must carry a negative message in our religions, which can be a sin. So until I verify, I want to believe this and I think most cultures in the world would say the same thing, and if there is something different, I respect all cultures and religions. And the next thing is our personal freedom.
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I think gambling is a sin if we talk of it as a whole regardless of what religion you are in the only thing is that humans don't call it a sin because they are involve on it maybe you need to get advice from your religious leaders about this issue because every religion has it's own do's and don'ts.
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Due to findings bible did not condemn gamble or betting as sin but addiction to it is sin,while bible condemn the love of money,but as a gambler you have already love the money before involving,a gambler has an objective and that objective is to win to double your stake,due to my conclusion those playing it for fun are not sinners,while the addicted one's are sinners.
LET US PUT IDEAS TOGHETHER TO CLERIFY OURSELVES.
I don't see this as something detrimental or bad to people who anticipated in gambling and even if Bible doesn't condemned it that doesn't mean other religious may not condemned it as well. Like I know gambling has been in existence since the origin of man and gambling is not something bad to my knowledge but the process of gambling and getting addicted is where we can say is a bad habit, anyone who can gamble within his means is term to be a response gambler.
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I think we are in the era wherein everyone is free to do whatever we wanted, despite what the Church is going to day.
Even Pope Francis approves Catholic blessings for same-sex couples, but not for marriage. So it means that they religions are adopting to the new world environment and their rules are not etch in stone.
With that, gamblers shouldn't feel guilty or what when they play. Just go where you will he happy, in my opinion.
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We usually define sin depending on our religious stand and affiliation so this all can be different from one person to another. Now, according to the general principles of the Judeau-Christian belief, something that can be destructive to you, your family and the society can be considered as a sin so in this sense with gambling to be addictive then it can be classified as a sin. However, we know that the subject of sin is not a matter of yes and no there are other factors at play in here. At the end, individuals has to decide for themselves how they do view gambling and it is all up to each of us to act accordingly.
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Due to findings bible did not condemn gamble or betting as sin but addiction to it is sin,while bible condemn the love of money,but as a gambler you have already love the money before involving,a gambler has an objective and that objective is to win to double your stake,due to my conclusion those playing it for fun are not sinners,while the addicted one's are sinners.
LET US PUT IDEAS TOGHETHER TO CLERIFY OURSELVES.
We as a person has a different view with regards to gambling and if we based our views on the bible and other holy books then for sure gambling is a sin may it for fun or you are addicted to it but my point is that no one really knows if what we are doing here on Earth is a sin or not as we have not meet our creator yet.
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We as a person has a different view with regards to gambling and if we based our views on the bible and other holy books then for sure gambling is a sin may it for fun or you are addicted to it but my point is that no one really knows if what we are doing here on Earth is a sin or not as we have not meet our creator yet.
Those who stick to religion and what they can proclaim is difficult to change their mind, or it is almost impossible and even more so when they are fanatics that is something that does not work, however now things can be seen in a Different way , some have already Discovered that some things were changed by the leaders of the Church and to their convenience, the truth has not been told yet, there are many things that have not been Uncovered and that makes many are looking for the truth, so saying that the game is bad is a belief that for me personally is Absurd.
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Gambling is not a sin any day as gamble has been existing right from the days of the Bible infact the cloth of Jesus too was used in gambling in the Bible when the soldiers throw dice to decides who wins the cloth of Jesus when he was about to be hanged in the cross
What we should be discussing about is is the abuse that most people who engage in gambling gets involved in due to lack of self control and subjecting once feeling and passion in check because when gambling becomes an addiction it becomes a big problem to the person which will be very difficult for the person because gambling addiction can lead to someone not been able to saving of money which can possibly lead to financial crisis especially going into been a deptor
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Gambling is not a sin any day as gamble has been existing right from the days of the Bible infact the cloth of Jesus too was used in gambling in the Bible when the soldiers throw dice to decides who wins the cloth of Jesus when he was about to be hanged in the cross
What we should be discussing about is is the abuse that most people who engage in gambling gets involved in due to lack of self control and subjecting once feeling and passion in check because when gambling becomes an addiction it becomes a big problem to the person which will be very difficult for the person because gambling addiction can lead to someone not been able to saving of money which can possibly lead to financial crisis especially going into been a deptor
Well for me gambling will not become a sin as long as it does not create a problem to you and your spiritual belief but even though gambling was mentioned on holy scriptures it is still not a proof that it is legal in the eyes of god. It's just like taking risk on something so if we really want or need it then it's up to us.
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In the Muslim scriptures from what I read on the internet, gambling is categorized as a sin because it contains elements of cheating... logically, we all certainly hate and condemn all cheating done by bookies to get money from gamblers... that makes sense and may be another reference, why gambling can be categorized as a sin, one of which is to avoid other cheating.
Until now in football matches or other sports, we often see that players or athletes are threatened by gambling mafia and are forced to give in for the victory of other teams or athletes, this fixing score often occurs and reduces sportsmanship in the world of sports because of the motive of cheating by gambling mafia.
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We as a person has a different view with regards to gambling and if we based our views on the bible and other holy books then for sure gambling is a sin may it for fun or you are addicted to it but my point is that no one really knows if what we are doing here on Earth is a sin or not as we have not meet our creator yet.
Those who stick to religion and what they can proclaim is difficult to change their mind, or it is almost impossible and even more so when they are fanatics that is something that does not work, however now things can be seen in a Different way , some have already Discovered that some things were changed by the leaders of the Church and to their convenience, the truth has not been told yet, there are many things that have not been Uncovered and that makes many are looking for the truth, so saying that the game is bad is a belief that for me personally is Absurd.
One of the things people do for fun is gambling. Although not everyone gambles, if this issue is covered by religion, then there is nothing to say. As far as I know, religion has told people to avoid things that harm the common man, but I think if someone enjoyed gambling without making it an issue of financial gain and if gamblers did not have any negative impact, then religion would not have given much priority to these issues. In any case, it is better for those whose religion prohibits gambling to stay away from gambling.
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Gambling is not a sin any day as gamble has been existing right from the days of the Bible infact the cloth of Jesus too was used in gambling in the Bible when the soldiers throw dice to decides who wins the cloth of Jesus when he was about to be hanged in the cross
What we should be discussing about is is the abuse that most people who engage in gambling gets involved in due to lack of self control and subjecting once feeling and passion in check because when gambling becomes an addiction it becomes a big problem to the person which will be very difficult for the person because gambling addiction can lead to someone not been able to saving of money which can possibly lead to financial crisis especially going into been a deptor
Well for me gambling will not become a sin as long as it does not create a problem to you and your spiritual belief but even though gambling was mentioned on holy scriptures it is still not a proof that it is legal in the eyes of god. It's just like taking risk on something so if we really want or need it then it's up to us.
We as humans are too rigid in our analysis of some things that gives us fun like gambling what we should be more concerned about is abuse which will lead someone into addiction which has a whole lot of disadvantages that are attached to it if not I don't see anything wrong in some one engaging in gambling because it's morally and legally right as far as you have attained the age that is stipulated in the law so there is nothing wrong with someone gambling because religion it's is hindrance to the success and development of any reasonable society
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One of the things people do for fun is gambling. Although not everyone gambles, if this issue is covered by religion, then there is nothing to say. As far as I know, religion has told people to avoid things that harm the common man, but I think if someone enjoyed gambling without making it an issue of financial gain and if gamblers did not have any negative impact, then religion would not have given much priority to these issues. In any case, it is better for those whose religion prohibits gambling to stay away from gambling.
Well, personally, when it comes to matters of religion and/or politics things get delicate, sometimes with the slightest comment, your words are misinterpreted, one can find or gain enemies and unintentionally, so in that case this must be dealt with very tactfully , however I say something, for religions that are very radical that say that the game is all, it depends on the person if they want to abide by it or not, personally if they tell me not to play because it's bad, whoever it is, I won't listen, maybe because I have another spiritual level, but when they are merely led to religion the opposite happens.
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I think gambling is a sin if we talk of it as a whole regardless of what religion you are in the only thing is that humans don't call it a sin because they are involve on it maybe you need to get advice from your religious leaders about this issue because every religion has it's own do's and don'ts.
I think it will make a whole lot of sense if you are able to give reasons why you think gambling is considered a sin across all religions. You might be making a blunder because I doubt if you have encountered or studied the philosophy behind religious on earth
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One of the things people do for fun is gambling. Although not everyone gambles, if this issue is covered by religion, then there is nothing to say. As far as I know, religion has told people to avoid things that harm the common man, but I think if someone enjoyed gambling without making it an issue of financial gain and if gamblers did not have any negative impact, then religion would not have given much priority to these issues. In any case, it is better for those whose religion prohibits gambling to stay away from gambling.
Well, personally, when it comes to matters of religion and/or politics things get delicate, sometimes with the slightest comment, your words are misinterpreted, one can find or gain enemies and unintentionally, so in that case this must be dealt with very tactfully , however I say something, for religions that are very radical that say that the game is all, it depends on the person if they want to abide by it or not, personally if they tell me not to play because it's bad, whoever it is, I won't listen, maybe because I have another spiritual level, but when they are merely led to religion the opposite happens.
You are right, about the reason why religion and betting are difficult to interpret. If a small change in meaning is made here, it can create big problems. One person can misunderstand another. Moreover, since I do not know much about religion, it is not very logical to comment on it. However, if gambling is not allowed in religion, then many people gamble, it is their personal matter and they will be responsible for it. Now what they do has become completely their own matter. I have said before that if gambling is prohibited in someone's religion, then it is appropriate for them not to gamble.
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You are right, about the reason why religion and betting are difficult to interpret. If a small change in meaning is made here, it can create big problems. One person can misunderstand another. Moreover, since I do not know much about religion, it is not very logical to comment on it. However, if gambling is not allowed in religion, then many people gamble, it is their personal matter and they will be responsible for it. Now what they do has become completely their own matter. I have said before that if gambling is prohibited in someone's religion, then it is appropriate for them not to gamble.
Well, personally, I am very open-minded about religion. I have been Catholic since I was little, but I am one of those who go to Mass every Sunday. No, I am lazy, I can't, I am not one to be in these things, but that does not mean that I am not with God the Heavenly Father. On the Contrary , my Spiritual level does not need those things, because I know that I can do Good things Without needing to go to church or for people to see me. No, the important thing is what one does and that we know when things are done well or badly.
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I'll answer your question without any relation to religion as much as possible.
Is gamble a sin? No, but it can be a trigger for you to commit sins. It's like when scammers are using Bitcoin as a tool, gambling is just a tool for those gamblers to commit sins. Gambling itself for me isn't a sin, and I might be a Catholic, but I didn't read something out there telling that gambling itself is a sin although for some religions, they see gambling as a sin hence, they are moving away from gambling as much as possible.
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Well, personally, I am very open-minded about religion. I have been Catholic since I was little, but I am one of those who go to Mass every Sunday. No, I am lazy, I can't, I am not one to be in these things, but that does not mean that I am not with God the Heavenly Father. On the Contrary , my Spiritual level does not need those things, because I know that I can do Good things Without needing to go to church or for people to see me. No, the important thing is what one does and that we know when things are done well or badly.
Catholic religion (or any Christian denomination to my knowledge) doesn't work like that. People like to think of themselves as good and feel entitled to salvation because they didn't kill/rape anyone, but that's not enough. You have to put God first and suppress your ego, which is hard because it goes against our primal, animal instincts. You can't mold the religion to fit your lifestyle and cater to your laziness and desires. You should conform to God's will, not the other way around.
If you cannot muster a minimum self-discipline to even visit the Church as the Catholic doctrine tells us to, is this putting God first?
That selfish, lazy approach to life in general is the main reason Western civilisation is falling apart.
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Catholic religion (or any Christian denomination to my knowledge) doesn't work like that. People like to think of themselves as good and feel entitled to salvation because they didn't kill/rape anyone, but that's not enough. You have to put God first and suppress your ego, which is hard because it goes against our primal, animal instincts. You can't mold the religion to fit your lifestyle and cater to your laziness and desires. You should conform to God's will, not the other way around.
If you cannot muster a minimum self-discipline to even visit the Church as the Catholic doctrine tells us to, is this putting God first?
That selfish, lazy approach to life in general is the main reason Western civilisation is falling apart.
Yes and precisely for me those things are delicate, because there will always be many who are faithful to dogma and do not get out, then in the name of God they commit atrocities , for me the Vatican is the main temple where the lowest things in the world are handled and they do not say that, but I know that it is so, the fathers, popes, cardinals are the biggest and worst sinners there are, some are not, I know that there are some who do have the vocation , but we are all clear that in the casino are the darkest secrets of humanity, for that reason I do not believe in any religion and yes, I always Respect the People who follow the religion and its rules, but I do not share, that is why with the game it does not apply to me.
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It would certainly be wrong to call gambling a sin. It may be that after a person becomes addicted to gambling, he engages in some activities to manage his money which are not right and which will be considered as sin religiously. But if someone is able to control himself even after losing money in gambling, then we cannot call gambling a sin.
yes i totally agree with your contribution gambling is not a sin,even the book of christainity classified it not to be a sin unless it has gone beyound mesaures which means addiction.
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It would certainly be wrong to call gambling a sin. It may be that after a person becomes addicted to gambling, he engages in some activities to manage his money which are not right and which will be considered as sin religiously. But if someone is able to control himself even after losing money in gambling, then we cannot call gambling a sin.
yes i totally agree with your contribution gambling is not a sin,even the book of christainity classified it not to be a sin unless it has gone beyound mesaures which means addiction.
The subject of gambling is a matter of morality so there are people who sees gambling as something that is not morally acceptable based on the fact that it involves money being staked and also money being expected from it so to them it's like you eating from what do do not benefits from so they see it as something that is not morally not acceptable these class of people belong to the religious seck while there is also those free thinkers who see gambling as just an activity so they take part in it from the point of view of relaxing and having fun gambling is one thing that can actually keep one busy especially when you don't have anything doing so wether gambling is a sin or not depends on the individual involved because as humans we have different way at which we view things
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The bible as far as I know condemned gambling. There was a user in BTT who actually mentioned about it I can't remember the verse but the story was that there are group of guys trying to put all their money in a pot and play their fate on it. Which at the end on the verse, the author of the book advice don't befriend these kind of guys.
But sure its not a sin, after all its just one book who condemns it.
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The bible as far as I know condemned gambling. There was a user in BTT who actually mentioned about it I can't remember the verse but the story was that there are group of guys trying to put all their money in a pot and play their fate on it. Which at the end on the verse, the author of the book advice don't befriend these kind of guys.
But sure its not a sin, after all its just one book who condemns it.
The subject of gambling is a function of morality and should not be confused with spiritual meaning because life will not be fun and enjoyable if we only base our life's with religious beliefs systems I can't say that gambling is a sin because every one has what he believes man as a free thinker is always looking for one way or the other to enhance his society so any one who sees gambling morally fit to engage in should not be criticize because he or she has the right to do anything that is morally acceptable to them self
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In religious practices, gambling is prohibited and considered a sin in many religions, but in many religions it is not prohibited but rather considered a sin. In our religion of Islam, gambling is prohibited and mentioned as a heinous sin, and we who believe in the Muslim religion always try to abstain from gambling. However, in many religions, it is not considered anything other than a form of pure pleasure. However, there is no obligation on anyone to accept it in their own religion as they see fit.