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Crypto Discussion Forum => Forum related => Topic started by: babo on January 20, 2025, 02:35:30 PM
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as you well know, it would be good to introduce some sort of filter to prevent new accounts from writing
in the previous thread
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=327327.0
I had quite casually said 100 karma, but speaking in the Italian thread with the miller, he pointed out to me that 100 karma is a very high limit that would make it difficult for many to vote
right, I have no idea how much to set this limit so we better decide together
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I had quite casually said 100 karma, but speaking in the Italian thread with the miller, he pointed out to me that 100 karma is a very high limit that would make it difficult for many to vote
right, I have no idea how much to set this limit so we better decide together
I think @PX-Z or @bitmover have accurate data about karma. Do a normal distribution plot of that data and target 60% or 80% of the total users. Or in simpler terms, I think 50 karma is enough.
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I believe that using karma scores for voting is not so useful, it is a community vote if we put the karma stakes it becomes a vote for only a part of the users and we lose the concept of a united community. Maybe 10 karma points are enough to keep out inactive users and avoid vote manipulation
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I have voted (50) since it is not a high amount and will allow more users to participate. Even so, and as hugeblack says, bitmover and PX-Z will have more information.
I believe that using karma scores for voting is not so useful, it is a community vote if we put the karma stakes it becomes a vote for only a part of the users and we lose the concept of a united community. Maybe 10 karma points are enough to keep out inactive users and avoid vote manipulation
Yes, you are right that it is a community vote, but floor limits must be set or we will see waves of new accounts voting to steer the vote in a specific direction, just as happened with the proposal to associate Karma to increase rank.
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I had quite casually said 100 karma, but speaking in the Italian thread with the miller, he pointed out to me that 100 karma is a very high limit that would make it difficult for many to vote
right, I have no idea how much to set this limit so we better decide together
I think @PX-Z or @bitmover have accurate data about karma. Do a normal distribution plot of that data and target 60% or 80% of the total users. Or in simpler terms, I think 50 karma is enough.
Based on my data there are
166 users with +100 karma
237 users with +50 karma
356 users with +20 karma
437 users with +10 karma
This data are available on karma logs with the help of sort function https://pxzone.online/altt/karma-log?sort=users_100_karma
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Yes, you are right that it is a community vote, but floor limits must be set or we will see waves of new accounts voting to steer the vote in a specific direction, just as happened with the proposal to associate Karma to increase rank.
This could be easily solved by just putting a minimum karma to vote. ..
I had quite casually said 100 karma, but speaking in the Italian thread with the miller, he pointed out to me that 100 karma is a very high limit that would make it difficult for many to vote
right, I have no idea how much to set this limit so we better decide together
I think @PX-Z or @bitmover have accurate data about karma. Do a normal distribution plot of that data and target 60% or 80% of the total users. Or in simpler terms, I think 50 karma is enough.
Based on my data there are
166 users with +100 karma
237 users with +50 karma
437 users with +10 karma.
This data are available on karma logs with the help of sort function https://pxzone.online/altt/karma-log?sort=users_100_karma
I dont have karma information. Looks like something between 20 and 50 karma is the way to go.
This is a small community, i don't think we need 400 votes..
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This could be easily solved by just putting a minimum karma to vote. ..
That is precisely what I said in my previous post, and that you have quoted in your post...
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This could be easily solved by just putting a minimum karma to vote. ..
That is precisely what I said in my previous post, and that you have quoted in your post...
10 Karma looks fair to me, it increases the potential members who can vote as well as mitigates the abusers but I would say we should have number of post restrictions that will do better. Let's say members needed at least 50 posts before the voting began so with this way we can ensure no one is going to abuse the poll by creating new account and beg or farm karma to accomplish whatever their plan is.
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I believe that using karma scores for voting is not so useful, it is a community vote if we put the karma stakes it becomes a vote for only a part of the users and we lose the concept of a united community. Maybe 10 karma points are enough to keep out inactive users and avoid vote manipulation
Yes, you are right that it is a community vote, but floor limits must be set or we will see waves of new accounts voting to steer the vote in a specific direction, just as happened with the proposal to associate Karma to increase rank.
I don't know what happened when the karma system was introduced, I wasn't registered on the forum yet, but I trust what you say. However, I am convinced that 100 karma is excessive and would keep too many users out of the vote
50 karma can be there but in my opinion there are also many, many users who have been registered for years on the forum may not have this requirement and it would only bring discontent
20-30 karma could be ideal, it would keep out new fake accounts and only a small part of users
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This could be easily solved by just putting a minimum karma to vote. ..
That is precisely what I said in my previous post, and that you have quoted in your post...
10 Karma looks fair to me, it increases the potential members who can vote as well as mitigates the abusers but I would say we should have number of post restrictions that will do better. Let's say members needed at least 50 posts before the voting began so with this way we can ensure no one is going to abuse the poll by creating new account and beg or farm karma to accomplish whatever their plan is.
I think the vote pool should be changed to 10, 20, 30 and 50 karma options ;)
More than 50 karma is excessive to vote...
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I dont have karma information. Looks like something between 20 and 50 karma is the way to go.
This is a small community, i don't think we need 400 votes..
For more information, I checked my data again and it has
356 users with +20 karma
I've edited my post above too..
I guess, 356 number of users is fine for voting.
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I think the vote pool should be changed to 10, 20, 30 and 50 karma options ;)
More than 50 karma is excessive to vote...
The amounts that appear in the pool can be changed and each user can vote for what seems most appropriate, which is what I did.
With the information provided by PX-Z we can have a clearer idea of what quantities to use.
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Based on my data there are
166 users with +100 karma
237 users with +50 karma
356 users with +20 karma
437 users with +10 karma
This data are available on karma logs with the help of sort function https://pxzone.online/altt/karma-log?sort=users_100_karma (https://pxzone.online/altt/karma-log?sort=users_100_karma)
number of voters is usually less than 20-30% of the total number of votes, so we will have a maximum number of approximate 80 in the case of 50 karma or 120 in the case of 20/30. So based on this data ~30 is good.
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in the end we just have to decide on a barrier to prevent people who perhaps don't participate too much in terms of quality in the forum from voting
that's all
establishing a quota must therefore have this impact, I honestly like 50 as a barrier as a number
therefore, this survey will last one week.
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in the end we just have to decide on a barrier to prevent people who perhaps don't participate too much in terms of quality in the forum from voting
that's all
establishing a quota must therefore have this impact, I honestly like 50 as a barrier as a number
therefore, this survey will last one week.
Nice initiative babo. The thing is if you are to actually set up something like this while still trying to kick out cheating as much you should consider members that can be elected as active members only and in addition to that you can chip in a few rules like number of posts required and probably karma required too. But I think the Karma limit shouldn't be huge since there are many members here who are quality posters but don't have that much of a huge ton of karma on their profiles.
I actually voted 100 8) because I think the bigger the rewards the more effort people may want to put in . I may be wrong though.
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Nice initiative babo. The thing is if you are to actually set up something like this while still trying to kick out cheating as much you should consider members that can be elected as active members only and in addition to that you can chip in a few rules like number of posts required and probably karma required too. But I think the Karma limit shouldn't be huge since there are many members here who are quality posters but don't have that much of a huge ton of karma on their profiles.
I actually voted 100 8) because I think the bigger the rewards the more effort people may want to put in . I may be wrong though.
thanks for the compliments
my goal is to do beautiful and fun things for the community with the help of the big boys, like icopress and rose
obviously that's my aim so I don't feel like deciding for the community, i prefer to do polls to understand how to proceed
regarding your vote, every vote is legitimate, so i actually really hope that we will choose something good for everyone.
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I am certainly in favour of higher karma as a condition, but now I see that there is not a very large number of users with over 50 karma points.
Over time, if similar contests relied on karma points, I believe that it would force many to try to make better-quality posts.
In the end, karma points aren't that hard to earn. For example, Freemind launched a campaign of additional rewards with karma for everyone who secures their forum accounts staking Bitcoin address.
Earn Karma by securing your account (https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=326454.0)
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Karma is not the important thing here. Rank limitation is better than karma limitation. Minimum 10 karma is enough but with this minimum Rank Full member can be made then spamming will be less.
And for users who have teleported here from Btt, it is better not to put karma limitation. So I think the most important limitation might be Rank limitation and it should be minimum Full Member
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Karma is not the important thing here. Rank limitation is better than karma limitation. Minimum 10 karma is enough but with this minimum Rank Full member can be made then spamming will be less.
And for users who have teleported here from Btt, it is better not to put karma limitation. So I think the most important limitation might be Rank limitation and it should be minimum Full Member
This is certainly a good idea. I agree.
This is solve any discussion easily, and Full member is certainly a good rank limit. If the person is not even a full member yet, how can he know the members of the forum and give good votes?
+karma for you!
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Karma is not the important thing here. Rank limitation is better than karma limitation. Minimum 10 karma is enough but with this minimum Rank Full member can be made then spamming will be less.
And for users who have teleported here from Btt, it is better not to put karma limitation. So I think the most important limitation might be Rank limitation and it should be minimum Full Member
This is certainly a good idea. I agree.
This is solve any discussion easily, and Full member is certainly a good rank limit. If the person is not even a full member yet, how can he know the members of the forum and give good votes?
+karma for you!
users can become full member with just 1 post via teleportation but users registered and active here might not reached the full member rank yet which is why limiting users with minimum number of post is better idea than rank then only it will be fair for the users who are active here supposed to be participating in any community related events.
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Karma is not the important thing here. Rank limitation is better than karma limitation. Minimum 10 karma is enough but with this minimum Rank Full member can be made then spamming will be less.
And for users who have teleported here from Btt, it is better not to put karma limitation. So I think the most important limitation might be Rank limitation and it should be minimum Full Member
this is a really excellent idea, if you want then we convert everything said instead of karma we convert it by rank
so all full members can vote, if you like it I'll close the poll and consider this thing official
I like it and honestly I hadn't thought about it, well done JISAN!
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Karma is not the important thing here. Rank limitation is better than karma limitation. Minimum 10 karma is enough but with this minimum Rank Full member can be made then spamming will be less.
And for users who have teleported here from Btt, it is better not to put karma limitation. So I think the most important limitation might be Rank limitation and it should be minimum Full Member
this is a really excellent idea, if you want then we convert everything said instead of karma we convert it by rank
so all full members can vote, if you like it I'll close the poll and consider this thing official
I like it and honestly I hadn't thought about it, well done JISAN!
It certainly makes sense.
What is the minimum time it takes to reach full member rank on this forum?
It would also be illogical if a newbie or an account registered two months ago could know who deserved the title of forum hero during the whole year, for example.
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It certainly makes sense.
What is the minimum time it takes to reach full member rank on this forum?
It would also be illogical if a newbie or an account registered two months ago could know who deserved the title of forum hero during the whole year, for example.
Of course this is also true, if a recently teleported user comes here and doesn't know anyone, how can he vote?
I would say to then leave the entry limit with a soft karma, even 50 karma is enough to understand if the person was appreciated or simply absent.
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Hi everyone
Allow me to make a small Bump since today is the last day of voting
In fact, tomorrow the poll expires and from that they took inspiration to really start the contest
Obviously I ask thanks to everyone especially a
- icopres
- Rose
- and the two sponsors who participate in the contest, thank you very much!
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in my opinion what was chosen was excellent, applause for this initiative certainly involves everyone
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votation is closed
we decide togheter
the person who wants to move, whatever his rank, must have at least 50 karma to demonstrate that he actively participates and knows at least someone in this forum
I'm closing the thread
thank you all for taking part in the vote and giving your opinion, always very useful!