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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency Trading => Topic started by: Gposas on January 23, 2025, 09:07:38 AM
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The crypto market only expresses two lines of movement/trend; The Uptrend (Green Candles) and The Downtrend (Red candles).
The Basic knowledge in trading states that the uptrend (Green Candles) express the purchasing power of buyers motivating the upward movement of the market and on the other hand, the downtrend (Red candles) express the power of the sellers resulting to the downward movement of the market.
From my point of view of the Crypto market (though not professional yet, just an observation) the trend/movement of different assets based on a low time frame (15mins), I observe that the market exhibits more of downtrend (Red candles) compared to an uptrend (Green candles).
Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
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Look at the bigger picture.
I do think we are in the uptrend overall, and we just experience dips along the way.
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The market direction is determined by these two trends, yet the consolidation period is also part of the market. It is said that whatsoever that goes up must surely come down, and same here in the crypto market. Based all the entire data, Bitcoin was one's below $100, and when above it, it has been below $100k over the years, which was a mark that everyone has been expecting. Now we have broken that mark.
By your question, I will say that the market goes up, and then comes down to make room for new entries.
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The crypto market only expresses two lines of movement/trend; The Uptrend (Green Candles) and The Downtrend (Red candles).
The Basic knowledge in trading states that the uptrend (Green Candles) express the purchasing power of buyers motivating the upward movement of the market and on the other hand, the downtrend (Red candles) express the power of the sellers resulting to the downward movement of the market.
From my point of view of the Crypto market (though not professional yet, just an observation) the trend/movement of different assets based on a low time frame (15mins), I observe that the market exhibits more of downtrend (Red candles) compared to an uptrend (Green candles).
Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
- It's simple, op, trading can't be just one trend, there can only be two and that's what you mentioned, it can't be purely or always uptrend and vice versa. That means, in trading any trend, we can get profit.
Now to your question, there's no answer there, just my opinion, because that's why there's a so-called every 4 years cycle called bitcoin halving or bull run, after this bear market, right? and this has been happening for 15 years now op.
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The crypto market only expresses two lines of movement/trend; The Uptrend (Green Candles) and The Downtrend (Red candles).
The Basic knowledge in trading states that the uptrend (Green Candles) express the purchasing power of buyers motivating the upward movement of the market and on the other hand, the downtrend (Red candles) express the power of the sellers resulting to the downward movement of the market.
From my point of view of the Crypto market (though not professional yet, just an observation) the trend/movement of different assets based on a low time frame (15mins), I observe that the market exhibits more of downtrend (Red candles) compared to an uptrend (Green candles).
Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
I see the market spends most of its time in a sideways, trendless state rather than trending up or down. One green candle doesn't signify an uptrend, and one red candle doesn't mean the market is in a downtrend, since you're talking about the market trend within that candle, for example, within a week or within a day.
I haven't tried counting the number of each type of candle on the price chart, as it's not really important. The market can grow or decline regardless of the number of red and green candles. If you're really interested in Japanese candlestick analysis, you should pay attention to candlestick patterns rather than their quantity ^^
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The crypto market only expresses two lines of movement/trend; The Uptrend (Green Candles) and The Downtrend (Red candles).
Sideways (consolidation) is also a movement we see in the market sometimes as alreayd mentioned. It should not be ignored.
Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
The market trends in both directions to fill out and cancel any inbalance or inefficiency that is created. I don't think the market trends more in one direction.
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Do you mean currently or permanently?
Currently, on the contrary, I see that the rise in most coins is an upward trend, not a downward trend. You do not have to look at the narrow time frame, but you have to look at the chart as a whole, or over a certain period of time, for example, a month. Then you will see that most coins had an upward trend.
We are now in a bullish season, so I think that most of the charts are more bullish than bearish, but perhaps what you say is correct regarding the short time frame of 15 minutes.
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The crypto market only expresses two lines of movement/trend; The Uptrend (Green Candles) and The Downtrend (Red candles).
The Basic knowledge in trading states that the uptrend (Green Candles) express the purchasing power of buyers motivating the upward movement of the market and on the other hand, the downtrend (Red candles) express the power of the sellers resulting to the downward movement of the market.
From my point of view of the Crypto market (though not professional yet, just an observation) the trend/movement of different assets based on a low time frame (15mins), I observe that the market exhibits more of downtrend (Red candles) compared to an uptrend (Green candles).
Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
Crypto market has the volatility and that make it very difficult. Some times it goes on up Trend and sometimes it goes on downtrend. Now it's your point of view how you just saw the market like you took only 15mins low time frame and here may be you can thinking about that the market trends more downwards than upwards but if you just view it on the bigger time frame like the year or the month you will saw just we were in upward market. Because Bitcoin is limited it has only 21 million maximum supply, day by day the price of it will increase it is also the reality. So in my opinion we were in upward market all the time in case of bitcoin.
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The crypto market only expresses two lines of movement/trend; The Uptrend (Green Candles) and The Downtrend (Red candles).
The Basic knowledge in trading states that the uptrend (Green Candles) express the purchasing power of buyers motivating the upward movement of the market and on the other hand, the downtrend (Red candles) express the power of the sellers resulting to the downward movement of the market.
From my point of view of the Crypto market (though not professional yet, just an observation) the trend/movement of different assets based on a low time frame (15mins), I observe that the market exhibits more of downtrend (Red candles) compared to an uptrend (Green candles).
Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
It depends on the pair you have selected if the pair is contrinuously losing its value over time then we will certainly see more red candles than green in any timeframe chart. But if we take BTC then I think we will find more green candles than red candles in 15 minutes charts too because it always pumped over the long period.
You can be right too because market stays most of the time in bear and stays red therefore it is possible that number of red candles are more than green but why it matters, the long term targets matters most.
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Sideways (consolidation) is also a movement we see in the market sometimes as already mentioned. It should not be ignored.
I am not good actually at looking at and analyzing candles and sometimes it drives me crazy how come others can easily explain those figures clearly and I could not make something out of them. Just crazy or maybe I am just lazy to educate myself on matters of trading which I know can be a good area to explore most especially cryptocurrency trading. Now, aside from the up and down - green and the red - I also encountered that term sideways movement and can be the time when consolidation can happen.
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Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
No.
We're in a bull run and the market is on the bullish trend so it means that we're upwards. While some people might disagree about it to me but look at the longer effect of what the market shows. It's been uptrend since last year. And if someone is desiring to see the downwards, we're going to see it soon, maybe at the end of this year or maybe by 2026.
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The crypto market only expresses two lines of movement/trend; The Uptrend (Green Candles) and The Downtrend (Red candles).
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From my point of view of the Crypto market (though not professional yet, just an observation) the trend/movement of different assets based on a low time frame (15mins), I observe that the market exhibits more of downtrend (Red candles) compared to an uptrend (Green candles).
Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
To read every red and green candle, there must be a knowledge, unfortunately I don't understand and do not want to learn about reading candles, I only based on the price of Bitcoin for Altcoins because from the first time I knew Cryptocurrency Bitcoin red then the red and bitcoin green and bitcoin green then Altcoins are also green.
For now, as you say that this Altcoins tend to be green and cannot be conditioned for us to be a long hodl because I pay attention to down and red. I was actually doubtful with them saying that Bullrun in 2025 will happen.
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The crypto market only expresses two lines of movement/trend; The Uptrend (Green Candles) and The Downtrend (Red candles).
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From my point of view of the Crypto market (though not professional yet, just an observation) the trend/movement of different assets based on a low time frame (15mins), I observe that the market exhibits more of downtrend (Red candles) compared to an uptrend (Green candles).
Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
To read every red and green candle, there must be a knowledge, unfortunately I don't understand and do not want to learn about reading candles, I only based on the price of Bitcoin for Altcoins because from the first time I knew Cryptocurrency Bitcoin red then the red and bitcoin green and bitcoin green then Altcoins are also green.
For now, as you say that this Altcoins tend to be green and cannot be conditioned for us to be a long hodl because I pay attention to down and red. I was actually doubtful with them saying that Bullrun in 2025 will happen.
A lot of knowledge require to be able to study candles stick, when you have a lot of knowledge about candles sticks you have the probability of being able to predict the trend either bull run or bearish.
But seems you don’t need any knowledge about candle sticks that because you are an investor not a day to day trader. But traders study candle pattern a lot to make a better decision and trade with risk management. As an investor you don’t really need to study candle patterns though it optional so you have the right to choose which you want. But when you are a trader studying candles will help you to analyze the market and understand the market.
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From my point of view of the Crypto market (though not professional yet, just an observation) the trend/movement of different assets based on a low time frame (15mins), I observe that the market exhibits more of downtrend (Red candles) compared to an uptrend (Green candles).
15 minutes is a very narrow time frame, it is even very difficult to predict or determine what momentum is happening in this time frame... even though you see more price drops than increases, actually for the short term it is reasonable, considering that after reaching the peak of cryptocurrency prices, it is the right time to welcome the bearish moment.... it could be that the bullish period has ended this month, and we will see the graph continue to decline for the next two years...
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The crypto market only expresses two lines of movement/trend; The Uptrend (Green Candles) and The Downtrend (Red candles).
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From my point of view of the Crypto market (though not professional yet, just an observation) the trend/movement of different assets based on a low time frame (15mins), I observe that the market exhibits more of downtrend (Red candles) compared to an uptrend (Green candles).
Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
To read every red and green candle, there must be a knowledge, unfortunately I don't understand and do not want to learn about reading candles, I only based on the price of Bitcoin for Altcoins because from the first time I knew Cryptocurrency Bitcoin red then the red and bitcoin green and bitcoin green then Altcoins are also green.
For now, as you say that this Altcoins tend to be green and cannot be conditioned for us to be a long hodl because I pay attention to down and red. I was actually doubtful with them saying that Bullrun in 2025 will happen.
A lot of knowledge require to be able to study candles stick, when you have a lot of knowledge about candles sticks you have the probability of being able to predict the trend either bull run or bearish.
But seems you don’t need any knowledge about candle sticks that because you are an investor not a day to day trader. But traders study candle pattern a lot to make a better decision and trade with risk management. As an investor you don’t really need to study candle patterns though it optional so you have the right to choose which you want. But when you are a trader studying candles will help you to analyze the market and understand the market.
-Investor = no need for candlestick
-Trader = need for candlestick
The conclusion of your reply post is very useful for me, I also think I understand why long-term investors are relaxed because they don't need profit every day but the profit is for the long term.
Unfortunately, I am not an investor because sometimes when I try to trade with altcoins like BNB, when there is a profit of 10 dollars I immediately withdraw it to my local bank. I also think that if the investor has a large capital and maybe the initial capital is at least 10,000 dollars.
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The crypto market only expresses two lines of movement/trend; The Uptrend (Green Candles) and The Downtrend (Red candles).
The Basic knowledge in trading states that the uptrend (Green Candles) express the purchasing power of buyers motivating the upward movement of the market and on the other hand, the downtrend (Red candles) express the power of the sellers resulting to the downward movement of the market.
From my point of view of the Crypto market (though not professional yet, just an observation) the trend/movement of different assets based on a low time frame (15mins), I observe that the market exhibits more of downtrend (Red candles) compared to an uptrend (Green candles).
Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
Crypto market has the volatility and that make it very difficult. Some times it goes on up Trend and sometimes it goes on downtrend. Now it's your point of view how you just saw the market like you took only 15mins low time frame and here may be you can thinking about that the market trends more downwards than upwards but if you just view it on the bigger time frame like the year or the month you will saw just we were in upward market. Because Bitcoin is limited it has only 21 million maximum supply, day by day the price of it will increase it is also the reality. So in my opinion we were in upward market all the time in case of bitcoin.
The low time frame(LTF) is basically used by day, and swing traders who will always take advantage of a slight price uptrends movements to close their positions or Take profit, while the the High time Frames(HTF) for example, one week, one month, are commonly used by analyst's to forecast the market uptrends and downtrends prices movements for a long periods.
Nevertheless, the market has been experiencing a side ways movements for over six months and i think that market price cannot go up continuously, people will always take profit at intervals, and this will make price to experience a downtrends movements at certain periods.
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Nevertheless, the market has been experiencing a side ways movements for over six months and i think that market price cannot go up continuously, people will always take profit at intervals, and this will make price to experience a downtrends movements at certain periods.
In fact, if the market always moved in an uptrend, there would be no value in trading. And in reality, it is never possible for the market to move only in an uptrend because traders trade to book profits and for this, if they buy a coin, they have to sell it and the impact it has on the market when they sell it leads the market to a downtrend. So there will be up and down both trend in market we have to decided where we should do our trade by our skills.
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Yes, a down/uptrends trends market is necessary on the crypto market because traders/investors must book profit, and this is the demand and supply principles playing out on a regular intervals. There are traders/investors that must sell, that is, a supply entrance into the market , while there are traders/investors that will buy these supply that is entering at certain price rates overtimes.
In fact, there must be ups and downs constantly, it is a normal market movements, which involves buying and selling of assets everyday.
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Yes, a down/uptrends trends market is necessary on the crypto market because traders/investors must book profit, and this is the demand and supply principles playing out on a regular intervals. There are traders/investors that must sell, that is, a supply entrance into the market , while there are traders/investors that will buy these supply that is entering at certain price rates overtimes.
In fact, there must be ups and downs constantly, it is a normal market movements, which involves buying and selling of assets everyday.
Of course, because most of the coins in the market are not stable coins, so the crypto can be used for optimal trading in various ways. Now for the market up and down that often occurs, how come the conditions are like that. And whether we can take advantage of it or not, it will return to each individual strategy. Because it does require various considerations to optimize market up and down in trading in order to get the most optimal profits.
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From my point of view of the Crypto market (though not professional yet, just an observation) the trend/movement of different assets based on a low time frame (15mins), I observe that the market exhibits more of downtrend (Red candles) compared to an uptrend (Green candles).
Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
It can't be possible, probably it's like that on the time you checked but I am sure the results will be different when you check on the different date or month.
Usually the price goes upwards in the long run which means the price has to rise more than it's falling which proves my point that it's moving up more than the down on average of all time.
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Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
Actually, it's quite difficult to say whether this market is uptrend or downtrend. Because every time I answer this question, to be honest I need to see the market, at least check on CMC or market exchanges. Yes, because the market is currently so predictable in its development. It could be that in a few hours, the market becomes uptrend and then downtrend quickly. This up and down condition during this recent time often happens. Because there are still some FUDs and also sometimes good news influences each other in a close time. So, what is important for us is not to be too influenced by the current market conditions if our target is for long-term holding.
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From my point of view of the Crypto market (though not professional yet, just an observation) the trend/movement of different assets based on a low time frame (15mins), I observe that the market exhibits more of downtrend (Red candles) compared to an uptrend (Green candles).
Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
It can't be possible, probably it's like that on the time you checked but I am sure the results will be different when you check on the different date or month.
Usually the price goes upwards in the long run which means the price has to rise more than it's falling which proves my point that it's moving up more than the down on average of all time.
Yep. A broader perspective is needed - otherwise, we may be inclined to see the market on a smaller scale of things, whereas the broader trend would be the exact opposite.
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Actually, it's quite difficult to say whether this market is uptrend or downtrend. Because every time I answer this question, to be honest I need to see the market, at least check on CMC or market exchanges. Yes, because the market is currently so predictable in its development. It could be that in a few hours, the market becomes uptrend and then downtrend quickly. This up and down condition during this recent time often happens. Because there are still some FUDs and also sometimes good news influences each other in a close time. So, what is important for us is not to be too influenced by the current market conditions if our target is for long-term holding.
Trends continue to change quite quickly and make the market unstable.
indeed many FUDs and News appear almost simultaneously and that affects how market trends occur.
Some time ago Bitcoin was already on the verge of going up and exceeding the price of $100k again, but then bad news came about the Bybit hack which became the biggest hack of all time, this made the market even more unstable until now.
For long-term investment you should indeed look at the market trend for the long term and don't get affected by this short-term trend, But take advantage of this downtrend to further increase your investment assets, it will be better and more profitable.
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For long-term investment you should indeed look at the market trend for the long term and don't get affected by this short-term trend, But take advantage of this downtrend to further increase your investment assets, it will be better and more profitable.
Well when I analyze the market, I don't see a downward trend, I only see setbacks that are natural in every market, then when there is a change in temporality it is obvious that the volatility is greater and it can be said that for each temporality for me the Analysis Changes , it is much more Violent, not to mention when scalping, it is much easier to follow Certain routines, forms, a Trading very given to chartism, but that is what I have Seen , even if strategies and tools are Applied , that is what I have seen.
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Nevertheless, the market has been experiencing a side ways movements for over six months and i think that market price cannot go up continuously, people will always take profit at intervals, and this will make price to experience a downtrends movements at certain periods.
In fact, if the market always moved in an uptrend, there would be no value in trading. And in reality, it is never possible for the market to move only in an uptrend because traders trade to book profits and for this, if they buy a coin, they have to sell it and the impact it has on the market when they sell it leads the market to a downtrend. So there will be up and down both trend in market we have to decided where we should do our trade by our skills.
- If the market only goes in one direction, it cannot be called trading, that's why it is called trading because there is buy and sell, this is what has been customary and has also become a tradition in the trading industry for a long time in fact and most communities here know this.
So if you buy that means there are other traders who made a profit or sold at a loss, that could be the scenario. And if you sell in trading, that just means that there are also some who made a profit and some who lost.
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Trends continue to change quite quickly and make the market unstable.
indeed many FUDs and News appear almost simultaneously and that affects how market trends occur.
Some time ago Bitcoin was already on the verge of going up and exceeding the price of $100k again, but then bad news came about the Bybit hack which became the biggest hack of all time, this made the market even more unstable until now.
For long-term investment you should indeed look at the market trend for the long term and don't get affected by this short-term trend, But take advantage of this downtrend to further increase your investment assets, it will be better and more profitable.
Many bad news came make bitcoin easily get downtrend moment again after having opportunity recovery back above $100k, since Bybit hack cases over 400k ETH make bitcoin difficult raise to higher price and downtrend for cryptocurrency market most easily than recovery. I think take longer time for recovering and bitcoin or altcoin back again to higher price, firstly most important for Ethereum raise up again to higher price and its most important for altcoin back to new ATH price depend how bitcoin will on the raise up way or down.
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If the market only goes in one direction, it cannot be called trading, that's why it is called trading because there is buy and sell, this is what has been customary and has also become a tradition in the trading industry for a long time in fact and most communities here know this.
So if you buy that means there are other traders who made a profit or sold at a loss, that could be the scenario. And if you sell in trading, that just means that there are also some who made a profit and some who lost.
That what I actually said in my post and what I want to mean.
Even all kinds of trading have more or less volatility market like if we just say about the real life goods market then there you will also see some volatile situation and if there is no volatility there will also not seen profit that much any more specially when we talk about the good profit in crypto trading then the more high market has own volatility the more you will have the profit if you have the proper skills and fund. But here also should remind the loss amount will be high on the others side.
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The crypto market only expresses two lines of movement/trend; The Uptrend (Green Candles) and The Downtrend (Red candles).
The Basic knowledge in trading states that the uptrend (Green Candles) express the purchasing power of buyers motivating the upward movement of the market and on the other hand, the downtrend (Red candles) express the power of the sellers resulting to the downward movement of the market.
From my point of view of the Crypto market (though not professional yet, just an observation) the trend/movement of different assets based on a low time frame (15mins), I observe that the market exhibits more of downtrend (Red candles) compared to an uptrend (Green candles).
Do you think the market trends more downwards than upwards??
You are right people are mostly invovled in future trading and they either want to make quick money or want to lose it all in short they want to make analyze and educated gambling on crypto via future trading although that's two different things.
If they will not stop shorting the price of a token then the chance for a market to go down might be lower because if most of the public would want a coin to go down then it will go down, and who is making more profit once a coin go down, short traders, so once they will be less, the market would pump more if I am not wrong about this logic as I can be because it is just a simple observation.
As we all know there are other numerous factors to this.
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Yes, a down/uptrends trends market is necessary on the crypto market because traders/investors must book profit, and this is the demand and supply principles playing out on a regular intervals. There are traders/investors that must sell, that is, a supply entrance into the market , while there are traders/investors that will buy these supply that is entering at certain price rates overtimes.
In fact, there must be ups and downs constantly, it is a normal market movements, which involves buying and selling of assets everyday.
Crypto is a volatile asset and the market will always move up and down because that's what is keeping investors and traders active in the market. I believe that most of us are already use to the price movement and it's a norm. Only newbies with little knowledge might panic and sell or get discouraged from investing.
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Yes, a down/uptrends trends market is necessary on the crypto market because traders/investors must book profit, and this is the demand and supply principles playing out on a regular intervals. There are traders/investors that must sell, that is, a supply entrance into the market , while there are traders/investors that will buy these supply that is entering at certain price rates overtimes.
In fact, there must be ups and downs constantly, it is a normal market movements, which involves buying and selling of assets everyday.
Crypto is a volatile asset and the market will always move up and down because that's what is keeping investors and traders active in the market. I believe that most of us are already use to the price movement and it's a norm. Only newbies with little knowledge might panic and sell or get discouraged from investing.
For those who have been investing in crypto for a long time, understand the volatile crypto market. Traders take advantage of the volatility of the crypto market to make a profit. And this is the added value of crypto.
But for those who are not traders, they can become holders and don't need to care about the volatile market.