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Title: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Findingnemo on January 25, 2025, 03:46:33 PM
I saw some news reports mentioning Trump passed an order to cut any funding to the countries which were aided previously including Ukraine are now officially cut by Trump and it is passed for 90 days trial and after that the list of countries will be reviewed. So what's the play behind this? Obviously he is trying to show that their citizen will be prioritized now but isn't a sign that US is losing their dominance in the world ground and it seems the perfect move to make China as the super power to replace US in the long term.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: target on January 25, 2025, 04:20:06 PM

The US government has the better judge of what they should be doing. If prioritising their own people means losing dominance, I think the government acts their best interest to improve the lives of their people than other country.

China isn't using military to show their dominance but most of it is by showing economic power. However US has it's own continent to manage.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: 0t3p0t on January 25, 2025, 08:02:07 PM
China isn't using military to show their dominance but most of it is by showing economic power. However US has it's own continent to manage.
I don't think Asians will agree to you on this because most of the communists neighbors complain about using it's military dominance and aggressiveness in the region. This red giant is known for bullying it's neighbors and maybe you are familiar with their debt trap as well.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 25, 2025, 09:27:53 PM
I saw some news reports mentioning Trump passed an order to cut any funding to the countries which were aided previously including Ukraine are now officially cut by Trump and it is passed for 90 days trial and after that the list of countries will be reviewed. So what's the play behind this? Obviously he is trying to show that their citizen will be prioritized now but isn't a sign that US is losing their dominance in the world ground and it seems the perfect move to make China as the super power to replace US in the long term.

This may just be the beginning of his new administration implementations, we cant expect him not to make some changes over his own tenure, i think there is more behind this in trying to stabilize and fix economy loopholes serving as challenges to them, and one of the ways to achieve this is by cutting down budgets and drawing out his own plan on some other areas he plans to touch alongside.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Rruchi man on January 25, 2025, 11:10:20 PM
I saw some news reports mentioning Trump passed an order to cut any funding to the countries which were aided previously including Ukraine are now officially cut by Trump and it is passed for 90 days trial and after that the list of countries will be reviewed. So what's the play behind this? Obviously he is trying to show that their citizen will be prioritized now but isn't a sign that US is losing their dominance in the world ground and it seems the perfect move to make China as the super power to replace US in the long term.
It is a new administration and one with the different mindset towards governance, so changes are expected, especially drastic changes that will not be acceptable to everyone. There are some people who believed that the funding that the United States provided all this countries in crisis was giving opportunity for corrupt officials within the government to Launder money, maybe it is something the new administration is trying to checkmate.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 27, 2025, 07:03:15 AM
So what's the play behind this? Obviously he is trying to show that their citizen will be prioritized now but isn't a sign that US is losing their dominance in the world ground
losing their dominance? i do not think so since they are the ones who were funding these countries if these countries struggle without the us then it will just show how powerful usa is
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and it seems the perfect move to make China as the super power to replace US in the long term.
we will see about that because china is not as powerful nowadays either and i doubt they could take on the us today
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: target on January 27, 2025, 05:27:21 PM
China isn't using military to show their dominance but most of it is by showing economic power. However US has it's own continent to manage.
I don't think Asians will agree to you on this because most of the communists neighbors complain about using it's military dominance and aggressiveness in the region. This red giant is known for bullying it's neighbors and maybe you are familiar with their debt trap as well.

They are not bombing a crowd yet and they have not yet destroyed a city.
But it's been true that whoever is economically rich dictates the law of the world. As of now US and China still fighting for their dominance though but their friends are already shooting each other.

Trump cutting aid to countries they support means those countries will have political instability for their funds will not be coming. The leftist politicians will soon be considering to be neutral and the far right might will be rethinking as well.

Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Findingnemo on January 27, 2025, 05:33:15 PM
This red giant is known for bullying it's neighbors and maybe you are familiar with their debt trap as well.
They are following this strategy for very long time to capture the government indirectly and take their ports and important locations for future trades so they are enlarging their world trades y forcing their government which is a sign of dominance.

we will see about that because china is not as powerful nowadays either and i doubt they could take on the us today

They are leading the exporting and manufacturing which itself a sign of dominance in the world and if US exits these economically weak countries then China will be following the same debt trap strategy which makes them to agree whatever their policies they come up with in the future.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: philipma1957 on January 27, 2025, 08:15:46 PM
Hey I am 68 today and I have watched USA get involved with shit all my life. I could give two f 's about being the worlds cop.

If you look at the world and its Setup:

 and I was the leader of the USA I would take over Greenland (with a money deal)

Kick out all illegal immigrants in the USA

and reclaim the Panama canal.

All of the above are more important than play cop in Asia and Africa or South American.


I would also tell Putin put pressure on Denmark
I would tell Ukraine to cut a deal with Russia.


From the selfish viewpoint those moves would help the USA.

Trump is pretty much trying to them all.


I would also abandon Nato.
Tell Canada behave now and cut a deal with them.


If the USa stopped playing cop and set out to protect itself It should own

Greenland Canada
Mexico and Central America. just look at the maps of the world.

My guess is this is being said behind a lot of closed doors as to the direction Trump wants to go.


Oh one more thing he want to melt the ice if he owns Greenland it would be a certain thing he would do.

Now all of the above is simply conjecture. As to what he can really do who knows.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: 0t3p0t on January 27, 2025, 09:28:12 PM
They are not bombing a crowd yet and they have not yet destroyed a city.
But it's been true that whoever is economically rich dictates the law of the world. As of now US and China still fighting for their dominance though but their friends are already shooting each other.
If you are familiar with the massacre of muslims in Xinjiang, the killing of an Indian soldier in Galwan valley, the massacre of Vietnamese soldiers in the Spratly Islands and I think a Philippine Coastguard personnel's finger was amputated due to the harrasment of the communists vessel in the WPS including ramming of fisherman's vessels damaging them. For us Asians the communist chekwa is using it's superiority to project it's strength in the region through aggressive and provocative actions, I know time will come for them to pay. This communist neighbor is delusional.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Zed0X on January 27, 2025, 10:37:02 PM
I think he's more focus on strategic economic ties after Biden printed a lot of money and spent them outside. They are fighting many (proxy) wars around the world while also spending US citizens tax money. Cutting up funding is probably one of the key moves in strengthening their own economy. After Ukraine, maybe cut Israel as well.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: philipma1957 on January 28, 2025, 01:58:25 AM
I think he's more focus on strategic economic ties after Biden printed a lot of money and spent them outside. They are fighting many (proxy) wars around the world while also spending US citizens tax money. Cutting up funding is probably one of the key moves in strengthening their own economy. After Ukraine, maybe cut Israel as well.

My guess is they dump the Ukraine but not Israel.

WE will know in under 2 years.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: target on January 28, 2025, 06:23:29 PM
They are not bombing a crowd yet and they have not yet destroyed a city.
But it's been true that whoever is economically rich dictates the law of the world. As of now US and China still fighting for their dominance though but their friends are already shooting each other.
If you are familiar with the massacre of muslims in Xinjiang, the killing of an Indian soldier in Galwan valley, the massacre of Vietnamese soldiers in the Spratly Islands and I think a Philippine Coastguard personnel's finger was amputated due to the harrasment of the communists vessel in the WPS including ramming of fisherman's vessels damaging them. For us Asians the communist chekwa is using it's superiority to project it's strength in the region through aggressive and provocative actions, I know time will come for them to pay. This communist neighbor is delusional.

Those are nothing compare to what other countries are doing. Remember that they are rich, in fact they can bomb their neighbors and can get away with it because US may not interfere now that Trump is no up to make war.

I'm Filipino I know what happens in SCS. The Chinese reacts whatever is necessary and so are the Philippine Navy.
Whoever is the richest has the power to rule the world and for now, its China that disrupts the world with its innovation, military force and wealth. Of course we know how are those before them.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Agbe on January 28, 2025, 07:51:40 PM
I don't think so because I don't personally see what trump is doing as bad because there's no way that a country will spend huge amounts of money to other countries and organizations that they don't get any thing in return and with the current economic situation in the world right now it's better that America withdraw their funding from their countries and use that money in investing into the life's of Americans because the Americans economy is currently struggling after the covid and is still trying to come back into it feet so any money that America has should be channelled into the American economy so that the economy will be helpful to the citizens of America and America withdrawing of the funding that they have been doin to other countries will not put china to be in the right place to become world power in the future
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Zed0X on January 29, 2025, 02:53:47 PM
I think he's more focus on strategic economic ties after Biden printed a lot of money and spent them outside. They are fighting many (proxy) wars around the world while also spending US citizens tax money. Cutting up funding is probably one of the key moves in strengthening their own economy. After Ukraine, maybe cut Israel as well.
My guess is they dump the Ukraine but not Israel.

WE will know in under 2 years.
It could be difficult to drop Israel completely but at least Trump could warn Netanyahu about the civilian casualties. ICC already issued a warrant for war crimes but US politicians are unlikely to honor that when Netanyahu visits the White House.

As for Zelenski, yeah, I think he'll be dropped as well. The billions of funding are probably ending up somewhere not beneficial to their fight against Russia.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: 0t3p0t on January 29, 2025, 07:31:21 PM
Those are nothing compare to what other countries are doing. Remember that they are rich, in fact they can bomb their neighbors and can get away with it because US may not interfere now that Trump is no up to make war.

I'm Filipino I know what happens in SCS. The Chinese reacts whatever is necessary and so are the Philippine Navy.
Whoever is the richest has the power to rule the world and for now, its China that disrupts the world with its innovation, military force and wealth. Of course we know how are those before them.
Well, yeah exactly what the reality is in today's world. Super power nations all has their words being the law even though they are doing wrong which is the sad part here.

Oh haha we are on the same country then. Well, that giant wasn't even on their territory so yeah they are just using force and power to bully those who really are protecting their own legitimate sovereignity which was recognized by the international law so yeah they better off from our territory.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: JoyMarsha on February 10, 2025, 11:17:48 PM
American economy and their lives are what Trump is prioritizing over funding countries that offer nothing to Americans. How can Americans be funding other countries in the healthcare sector? The governments of those countries spend and take away millions of dollars for themselves and family members to enjoy the best of life in America while the people in their countries can't boast of such.

It's time for other countries that depend on America's funding to develop their healthcare than depend on America because they can't be there for them always. Let them think of themselves first rather than catering to others while their government can provide for them. That's Trump's thoughts on cutting the American funding of other nations
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Agbe on February 11, 2025, 03:34:01 PM
American economy and their lives are what Trump is prioritizing over funding countries that offer nothing to Americans. How can Americans be funding other countries in the healthcare sector? The governments of those countries spend and take away millions of dollars for themselves and family members to enjoy the best of life in America while the people in their countries can't boast of such.

It's time for other countries that depend on America's funding to develop their healthcare than depend on America because they can't be there for them always. Let them think of themselves first rather than catering to others while their government can provide for them. That's Trump's thoughts on cutting the American funding of other nations
I agree with you because with the way the world is going now especially now that countries are struggling with their economy which America too has been struggling with their economy it's time that every nation of the world take responsibility for their citizens by way of investing into the health care system of their country you don't expect another country that you don't give anything to be funding your health care by way of donations and sending vaccines to others nations of the world while America too has been struggling so am in total support over the proposed plan by the trump administration because it is in order trump came use the money in funding these foreign bodies into the American economy or even the American health care system too so more Americans can benefit from the trump administration nobody should blame trump over this move because it's in order because with the way the world is going it's every countries to yourself
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: electronicash on February 11, 2025, 06:05:33 PM
American economy and their lives are what Trump is prioritizing over funding countries that offer nothing to Americans. How can Americans be funding other countries in the healthcare sector? The governments of those countries spend and take away millions of dollars for themselves and family members to enjoy the best of life in America while the people in their countries can't boast of such.

It's time for other countries that depend on America's funding to develop their healthcare than depend on America because they can't be there for them always. Let them think of themselves first rather than catering to others while their government can provide for them. That's Trump's thoughts on cutting the American funding of other nations
I agree with you because with the way the world is going now especially now that countries are struggling with their economy which America too has been struggling with their economy it's time that every nation of the world take responsibility for their citizens by way of investing into the health care system of their country you don't expect another country that you don't give anything to be funding your health care by way of donations and sending vaccines to others nations of the world while America too has been struggling so am in total support over the proposed plan by the trump administration because it is in order trump came use the money in funding these foreign bodies into the American economy or even the American health care system too so more Americans can benefit from the trump administration nobody should blame trump over this move because it's in order because with the way the world is going it's every countries to yourself

nothing is better to prioritize then their own country. if i am the president i would also be prioritizing my own country and the people so there will be no revolt and chaos on the street.

trump would rather be seeing US be better which i think would make sense than aiding for some countries that wouldn't contribute to making them richer. if they could turn their manufacturing industry back to life, all the better for US and maybe they can make products better than the Chinese.

Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: alltalk on February 11, 2025, 10:07:28 PM
I saw some news reports mentioning Trump passed an order to cut any funding to the countries which were aided previously including Ukraine are now officially cut by Trump and it is passed for 90 days trial and after that the list of countries will be reviewed.
If the reports are valid, Trump has done the right way for US. They have no much advantage to for funding those countries. Why US needs to continue it? I hope it will be for the long run, it should be more than 90 days. If Trump wants to focus on strengthening US economic power, they need to eliminate unnecessary funding.

So what's the play behind this? Obviously he is trying to show that their citizen will be prioritized now but isn't a sign that US is losing their dominance in the world ground and it seems the perfect move to make China as the super power to replace US in the long term.
Why US will lose their dominance? Does US need to help some countries for the wars in order to show US dominance? There are many other ways to show their dominance, it is not a must to help those countries fighting against other countries. China shows their dominance through economic aspects. US can follow this way, they aren't involved in the wars.

Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on February 12, 2025, 09:00:38 PM
This kind of decision may just be the way he is going to begin the era for his tenure, because base on what I know, each government or administration will have their own implementation different from what others have in place already, and one thing we must understand is that some of the policies might work in favour of some and against some as well, but we shouldn't take it as an overall assessment in general, because it doesn't work for us, some are there being happy about what others are lamenting over, such is life.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Stompix on February 13, 2025, 12:09:57 PM
China isn't using military to show their dominance but most of it is by showing economic power.

Oh yeah, Chinese military ships bullying everyone in the South China Sea and day after day incursions in Japanese territorial waters and air is completely peaceful.
This with the threats of taking Taiwan with force makes them just another Russia in waiting hungry for territorial gains.

I think he's more focus on strategic economic ties after Biden printed a lot of money and spent them outside.

Lol, and what did Trump do before him?

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During his four-year term in office, President Trump approved $8.4 trillion of new ten-year borrowing above prior law, or $4.8 trillion when excluding the bipartisan COVID relief bills and COVID-related executive actions. Looking at all legislation and executive actions with meaningful fiscal impact, the full amount of approved ten-year borrowing includes $8.8 trillion of deficit-increasing laws and actions offset by $443 billion of deficit-reducing actions.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Findingnemo on February 14, 2025, 08:55:56 PM
Why US will lose their dominance? Does US need to help some countries for the wars in order to show US dominance? There are many other ways to show their dominance, it is not a must to help those countries fighting against other countries. China shows their dominance through economic aspects. US can follow this way, they aren't involved in the wars.

US been policing the issues of two different nations in it's history and that's possible only because they have been funding one side in one way or the other and when those things stops mean they are showing the sign of weakness isn't?

China made their strategical moves for very long and made countries into the loan trap so it's possible for US to do the same but time doesn't wait for anybody.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Agbe on February 14, 2025, 09:08:14 PM
This kind of decision may just be the way he is going to begin the era for his tenure, because base on what I know, each government or administration will have their own implementation different from what others have in place already, and one thing we must understand is that some of the policies might work in favour of some and against some as well, but we shouldn't take it as an overall assessment in general, because it doesn't work for us, some are there being happy about what others are lamenting over, such is life.
Every government has it own agendas and plans that they come with so the trump administration cutting up aids and funding to international organizations and other countries is what the trump administration deemed fit to do in his wisdom and it's going to stand in the next four years but I don't think this will be for ever because if new administration comes and takes over it will review some of these executive orders that are been passed but mind you what ever trump is doing is geared towards America interest because from what I can get from Trump's body language he is more concerned about American society which is the best thing to do for a leader
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Didia Sofunichi on February 18, 2025, 08:13:27 PM
I commend Trump for the bold step he took. I am an adent follower of international politics, the inter play of power and power relations. I have followed and studied international politics all my life and I can tell that nations of the world are only after their personal and selfish intrest.

A country that gives 100 dollars in aid will take back a thousand dollars. Trump should cut down and use American money for the American people because of you look at the rationale behind the aid they give, you will come to they realisation that they aids they give are not free
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: [email protected] on February 27, 2025, 05:17:34 PM
If President Trump were to cut funding to countries, including Ukraine, the implications for America and the rest of the world could be significant.

The United States is the world's largest donor to humanitarian aid, and volatile swings in funding can severely impact the entire sector. Trump's previous attempts to cut funding to organizations like the UN Population Fund, UNAIDS, the World Health Organization, and the UN agency for Palestinian refugees have already shown the potential consequences ยน.

*Shift in Global Dynamics*

Reducing US influence in regions like Ukraine could create a power vacuum, allowing other global powers like China to increase their influence. This could contribute to a shift in global dynamics, altering the balance of power and influence.

Domestically, such a move could be seen as prioritizing American interests, but it could also lead to:

- *Reduced global influence*: America's reduced presence on the global stage could diminish its ability to shape international policies and decisions.
- *Increased tensions*: Cutting funding to countries could lead to increased tensions between the US and affected nations, potentially destabilizing regions.
- *Economic implications*: Reduced US influence could also have economic implications, potentially impacting trade relationships and American businesses operating abroad.
While prioritizing domestic interests is important, it's crucial to consider the potential implications of reducing US funding on global dynamics and relationships. A nuanced approach, balancing domestic and international interests, is essential to maintaining US influence and promoting global stability.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Sim_card on February 27, 2025, 06:05:40 PM
This kind of decision may just be the way he is going to begin the era for his tenure, because base on what I know, each government or administration will have their own implementation different from what others have in place already, and one thing we must understand is that some of the policies might work in favour of some and against some as well, but we shouldn't take it as an overall assessment in general, because it doesn't work for us, some are there being happy about what others are lamenting over, such is life.
Every government has it own agendas and plans that they come with so the trump administration cutting up aids and funding to international organizations and other countries is what the trump administration deemed fit to do in his wisdom and it's going to stand in the next four years but I don't think this will be for ever because if new administration comes and takes over it will review some of these executive orders that are been passed but mind you what ever trump is doing is geared towards America interest because from what I can get from Trump's body language he is more concerned about American society which is the best thing to do for a leader
Any president of America can do whatever he likes, if possible kill or partake in some unlawful act, nothing anyone will say when the president says that he is doing it for Americans. That's where the manipulation starts all in the name of doing it for Americans. I don't know what will actually come out from Trump administration to add positive impact on other nations.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: electronicash on February 27, 2025, 06:54:30 PM
This kind of decision may just be the way he is going to begin the era for his tenure, because base on what I know, each government or administration will have their own implementation different from what others have in place already, and one thing we must understand is that some of the policies might work in favour of some and against some as well, but we shouldn't take it as an overall assessment in general, because it doesn't work for us, some are there being happy about what others are lamenting over, such is life.
Every government has it own agendas and plans that they come with so the trump administration cutting up aids and funding to international organizations and other countries is what the trump administration deemed fit to do in his wisdom and it's going to stand in the next four years but I don't think this will be for ever because if new administration comes and takes over it will review some of these executive orders that are been passed but mind you what ever trump is doing is geared towards America interest because from what I can get from Trump's body language he is more concerned about American society which is the best thing to do for a leader
Any president of America can do whatever he likes, if possible kill or partake in some unlawful act, nothing anyone will say when the president says that he is doing it for Americans. That's where the manipulation starts all in the name of doing it for Americans. I don't know what will actually come out from Trump administration to add positive impact on other nations.

the last few US president did what they did. even go war with countries in the middle east by just accusing them of having a weapon of mass destruction. you know how the presidents of those countries ended, they were murdered them  on the streets.

well you could understand it when you are also on top, you don't want someone on top competing you. there can only be one leader.
Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: alltalk on March 01, 2025, 11:50:51 AM
US been policing the issues of two different nations in it's history and that's possible only because they have been funding one side in one way or the other and when those things stops mean they are showing the sign of weakness isn't?
The common perception is US sells the weapon to the countries who fight others. The funding to the countries is probably just a small part of the profits of selling the weapon. If US stops the funding to the countries, it means they may change their priority. They may no longer selling their weapon and start to focus on strengthen their dominance in economic sector.

China made their strategical moves for very long and made countries into the loan trap so it's possible for US to do the same but time doesn't wait for anybody.
Yep. China has done it for a long time. Not sure if US can challenge China to dominate the economic sector. However, US must have their intention to challenge China with their capability. As one of the biggest country in the world, it is possible that US can gradually reach the domination of China in economic sector gradually.

Title: Re: Trump cut funding to nations and organization!
Post by: Findingnemo on March 01, 2025, 03:08:55 PM

China made their strategical moves for very long and made countries into the loan trap so it's possible for US to do the same but time doesn't wait for anybody.
Yep. China has done it for a long time. Not sure if US can challenge China to dominate the economic sector. However, US must have their intention to challenge China with their capability. As one of the biggest country in the world, it is possible that US can gradually reach the domination of China in economic sector gradually.
IMO that would require complete restructuring of their entire dynamics, China made it possible with the abundant human resources which is why they made it possible almost anything at effective speed. US can't compete with that cause they don't really want more people to enter into the nation clearly so they will just continue to play the political games only to remain dominant.