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Learning & News => For Beginners => Basic Questions about Cryptos => Topic started by: Akinwale Akinkunmi on January 28, 2025, 12:03:32 PM
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I've been following the news about cryptocurrency exchanges facing issues with governments. Previously, it was Binance that had problems, and now KuCoin has pleaded guilty to unlicensed money transmission before the US Department of Justice (DOJ). This makes me wonder if these exchanges are truly clean or if the government is trying to regulate them more strictly.
I recall that Zhao, the founder of Binance, recently completed his 4-month sentence for violating anti-money laundering protections. These issues with popular exchanges are concerning, especially since I have investments in them.
Although most of my funds are currently in Bitget, which I believe has a clean record, I'm still worried about the potential risks. Who knows what might happen tomorrow? Should I consider consolidating all my assets into one exchange to be on the safer side? I don't want to risk waking up one day to find that the government has frozen all assets due to the exchange owner's negligence or wrongdoing.
https://www.cryptonewsz.com/kucoin-pleads-guilty-unlicensed-money-business/
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if you are worried so much about your assets while inside the exchange and you have no idea what lies in the future of Bitget, why not just withdraw your assets out to your personal wallet? this way its going to be safer regardless of what is going to happen to exchanges like that Kucoin.
if the income of the government is not sufficient, they will look for way to make money and exchanges are good sources. so i wouldn't be surprise if they block every exchanges they can find and only allow them to make business once they pay.
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The fact that CZ has served a 4 month prison sentence is simply to avoid major problems, both for Binance and for CZ himself. That CZ resigned as CEO was not a written demand, but it can be understood without even being able to read the sentence. I have never used BitGet since I don't like some of their policies and ways of acting, but you have several alternatives.
The first thing you should know is that you should never leave your funds on an exchange, regardless of its reputation or how many years it has been active. In case you've never read it, "not your keys not your coins", it's as simple as that.
Using decentralized exchanges when you want to buy/sell and keeping backups of your wallets would be more than enough so that your fears are not as serious as you think.
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I understand your concern of the risks involved with popular crypto exchanges around and yes there is no denying they are easy target of the government since they are all centralized unlike DEX platforms. In the past years, mostly under the administration of Trump/Harris, the SEC made a very active regulatory moves bringing many CEXs to the court for violating this and that and the most famous is that of Binance and CZ. I am sure that we can see a better outlook of these platforms under Trump though it does not mean that if any of them will really violate the law that things will just be okay. Now, if you think you can't bear the risk then the best thing to do is to get away from them and better use DEXs.
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if you are worried so much about your assets while inside the exchange and you have no idea what lies in the future of Bitget, why not just withdraw your assets out to your personal wallet? this way its going to be safer regardless of what is going to happen to exchanges like that Kucoin.
if the income of the government is not sufficient, they will look for way to make money and exchanges are good sources. so i wouldn't be surprise if they block every exchanges they can find and only allow them to make business once they pay.
I think it is a good idea to have control over someone assets by putting them in a personal wallet. However, as a user, I also value the services that centralized exchanges (CEXs) rather.
If you may ask me, they offer a range of benefits, including liquidity, ease of use. They also provide essential services like fiat on-ramps, customer support, and security measures to protect users' funds.
Also, they do have more advanced trading features, such as margin trading, futures, which can be attractive to more traders. Decentralized exchanges (DEXs), on the other hand, offer greater decentralization and censorship resistance, but they do have lower liquidity and can be more complex to use. in my own opinion, I will like to see both CEXs and DEXs coexist and thrive, offering crypto users a range of options to suit their needs. In this manner, users can enjoy the benefits of both CEXs and DEXs. By having a different range of options, I can make informed decisions about how to achieve my financial goals.
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Although most of my funds are currently in Bitget, which I believe has a clean record, I'm still worried about the potential risks. Who knows what might happen tomorrow? Should I consider consolidating all my assets into one exchange to be on the safer side? I don't want to risk waking up one day to find that the government has frozen all assets due to the exchange owner's negligence or wrongdoing.
Bitget is a good exchange and they have all their audits clear and publically available but this does not mean they cannot make anything stupid and due to rules in your contoury they banned the usage of that exchange there. Besides that I don't think Bitget would end up like FTX exchange.
Bitget is very reputive I also use it and it is more famous due to its wallet and BGB token now. The best way to secure funds is to hold them in non custodial wallets where you own the keys and then you don't have to worry anymore.
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It is advisable to transfer all our assets to our personal wallet if we are going to hold it for a long time. We don't know what will happen to tomorrow, if CEX will disappear it included our assets. According to them, if we don't own the key, it's not your money. There's no way to retrieve our funds if the CEX if it's gone because we don't own the key. Honestly, anyone can do bad things to our account if they want. But I'm glad they won't do that because all their efforts to reach the things where they are now will go to waste. Even in Binance, there are many issues against the SEC but I didn't experience any losing funds with them even though here in my Country the site is blocked. So it's up to you if are going to transfer it, it's your decision.
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If one has been a victim of using a centralized exchange before, then no one will have to preach it that we should migrate from using them to a non custodial means of storage, their regulations could place a serious danger to us in revealing about our privacy, lost of fund and even any form of public abuse of the information we have on them including our digital assets and if anything should strike them, then our crypto in them are gone without having any possible ways of recovering them back.
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It is advisable to transfer all our assets to our personal wallet if we are going to hold it for a long time. We don't know what will happen to tomorrow, if CEX will disappear it included our assets. According to them, if we don't own the key, it's not your money. There's no way to retrieve our funds if the CEX if it's gone because we don't own the key. Honestly, anyone can do bad things to our account if they want. But I'm glad they won't do that because all their efforts to reach the things where they are now will go to waste. Even in Binance, there are many issues against the SEC but I didn't experience any losing funds with them even though here in my Country the site is blocked. So it's up to you if are going to transfer it, it's your decision.
Since the FTX issue, most platforms have tightened their security, implemented robust Proof of Reserves (PoR) using Merkle trees, and tried to comply with regulations where possible. As a trader, I believe exchanges are essential—both DEXs and CEXs play a crucial role in providing liquidity. However, I've seen many DEXs and wallets get hacked, resulting in funds being lost permanently. With CEXs, there's often a higher chance of recovering your money, as several recent case studies have shown. That said, it's important to be careful when choosing an exchange. Deep research is necessary, but some of the options OP have suggested seem reliable, as they are compliant and have no major risks associated with them. Regarding the issue with KuCoin, I’m glad it was settled amicably, and I hope they will be more compliant moving forward.
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Firstly it's very wrong to buy the concept of holding your coin on any form of exchange be it a decentralized or centralized exchange. Now some people may argue that decentralized exchanges are safe yes they do pack some privacy features like more of anonymity compared to centralized exchanges that require kyc verifications most of the time for you to be able to carry out regular transactions.
Nevertheless hodling is something that has to be done personally and as a result putting your coins in the custody of a third party is never a safe option the best way to hold is having your keys and your coins to yourself.
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Although most of my funds are currently in Bitget, which I believe has a clean record, I'm still worried about the potential risks. Who knows what might happen tomorrow? Should I consider consolidating all my assets into one exchange to be on the safer side? I don't want to risk waking up one day to find that the government has frozen all assets due to the exchange owner's negligence or wrongdoing.
Now you're acting like you're a bit bias with this. Yes, the thing with Binance and Kucoin might've affected their reputation, but I don't think that the amount of their customers using their services decreased by a lot. I said that you're a bit bias because you believe that "Bitget has a clean record", but you don't even know if they're doing bad things secretly, and it's just that, nobody has saw it happening until now. Who knows.
Just put all of your asset in one HARDWARE WALLET and not on one exchange. Putting it all on one exchange doesn't change the risk since these exchanges can get hacked. I guess I'm lucky that I didn't experience assets being froze on different exchanges, and I hope it will not happen, but I don't know what to do just in case that happen that's why I don't store it on the exchanges.
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Although most of my funds are currently in Bitget, which I believe has a clean record, I'm still worried about the potential risks. Who knows what might happen tomorrow? Should I consider consolidating all my assets into one exchange to be on the safer side? I don't want to risk waking up one day to find that the government has frozen all assets due to the exchange owner's negligence or wrongdoing.
Now you're acting like you're a bit bias with this. Yes, the thing with Binance and Kucoin might've affected their reputation, but I don't think that the amount of their customers using their services decreased by a lot. I said that you're a bit bias because you believe that "Bitget has a clean record", but you don't even know if they're doing bad things secretly, and it's just that, nobody has saw it happening until now. Who knows.
Just put all of your asset in one HARDWARE WALLET and not on one exchange. Putting it all on one exchange doesn't change the risk since these exchanges can get hacked. I guess I'm lucky that I didn't experience assets being froze on different exchanges, and I hope it will not happen, but I don't know what to do just in case that happen that's why I don't store it on the exchanges.
I wasn't biased because i have not seen the exchange i mentioned in any Shaddy situation, although no one is perfect if we see something that is not good enough it is good to always call it out.
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Nevertheless hodling is something that has to be done personally and as a result putting your coins in the custody of a third party is never a safe option the best way to hold is having your keys and your coins to yourself.
It's not your keys not your coins, as the term goes, centralized exchanges are not for storing assets that will be held for the long term, it is only used for trading and temporary storage because we also don't know when the vulnerability that ends with a hack will occur.
The use of hardware wallets will be highly recommended to store assets more safely without party control when, but security is one's own responsibility.
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I view this as a lesson for future business owners that have been trenching on something quite new in the world which is dealing with cryptocurrencies. It's mostly new if you think about it and there's not yet a fully fledged regulation instructions with it and I think that's how the major exchanges are having a hard time complying with the different requirements. I believe it's something to still study about.
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Although most of my funds are currently in Bitget, which I believe has a clean record, I'm still worried about the potential risks. Who knows what might happen tomorrow? Should I consider consolidating all my assets into one exchange to be on the safer side? I don't want to risk waking up one day to find that the government has frozen all assets due to the exchange owner's negligence or wrongdoing.
Bitget is a good exchange and they have all their audits clear and publically available but this does not mean they cannot make anything stupid and due to rules in your contoury they banned the usage of that exchange there. Besides that I don't think Bitget would end up like FTX exchange.
Bitget is very reputive I also use it and it is more famous due to its wallet and BGB token now. The best way to secure funds is to hold them in non custodial wallets where you own the keys and then you don't have to worry anymore.
Yeah I believe that's why they' currently have over 100m users rn. And also compliance, cos they're compliant with most local authorities they operate in. They've got Mica, Fca compliance, ISO cert and many more..plus look at their current protection funds. It's well equipped
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I also agree with you about non custodian wallets. But we shouldn't downplay the role of exchanges in today's crypto setting..
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I recall that Zhao, the founder of Binance, recently completed his 4-month sentence for violating anti-money laundering protections. These issues with popular exchanges are concerning, especially since I have investments in them.
Who knows what might happen tomorrow? Should I consider consolidating all my assets into one exchange to be on the safer side? I don't want to risk waking up one day to find that the government has frozen all assets due to the exchange owner's negligence or wrongdoing.
What do you mean that you have invested in Binance, are you referring to investing in some coin on Binance exchange and calling it this way! If yes, that you can transfer your coins from that exchange to any other if you feel unsafe here, NFA.
I like your thought because I also have the same one, but I trust the exchange I have kept my funds in, but I have a few funds moved to other coins as well, I know how the experience of what it feels like to have funds on an exchange and seeing that exchange name in news that hey SEC has opened a case against this exchange hehe.
The last time Kucoin had this, I had few funds but not too much, like a few dollars only.
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Yeah I believe that's why they' currently have over 100m users rn. And also compliance, cos they're compliant with most local authorities they operate in. They've got Mica, Fca compliance, ISO cert and many more..plus look at their current protection funds. It's well equipped
I also agree with you about non custodian wallets. But we shouldn't downplay the role of exchanges in today's crypto setting..
You are absolutely right about it and thanks for sharing these statistics these are enough to get an idea about an exchange but still we should hold our long term investments on non-custodial wallets because we have seen all the whales after buying coins from exchanges they move their funds from any exchange even from Coinbase to a non custodial wallet.
They don't even trust Coinbase and Binance which are the top tier 1 exchange so we should also move our funds from exchanges to wallets where we own the keys and own the funds.
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Should I consider consolidating all my assets into one exchange to be on the safer side?
Not your keys, not your coins!
Rather than thinking about consolidating your coins on some exchange, you should ask yourself why keeping the coins on an exchange at all.
Bitget is a good exchange and they have all their audits clear and publically available
Really? Then what's this about? ;D
https://www.bafin.de/SharedDocs/Veroeffentlichungen/DE/Verbrauchermitteilung/unerlaubte/2024/meldung_2024_01_29_bidget.html
https://www.iosco.org/v2/investor_protection/?subsection=investor_alerts_portal&id=30127&entity=Canada-Bitget-Limited
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You are absolutely right about it and thanks for sharing these statistics these are enough to get an idea about an exchange but still we should hold our long term investments on non-custodial wallets because we have seen all the whales after buying coins from exchanges they move their funds from any exchange even from Coinbase to a non custodial wallet.
They don't even trust Coinbase and Binance which are the top tier 1 exchange so we should also move our funds from exchanges to wallets where we own the keys and own the funds.
Have many people or trader still not trust yet with top exchange market such as Binance or Coinbase regarding how easily most top exchange like FTX got bankrupt and scam, its most safe when saving cryptocurrency in wallet and have own self controlling about private key without depend on third party as exchange market.
But for short term trading is not worth it saving assets in wallet by trading at Dapp exchange because get pay higher fees than trade at exchange market, so if want saving for long term recommended at wallet but for short term use Binance or another top exchange market.
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Did you say you have all your funds in Bitget, i hope you are not one of their many shillers who try to put their name out as many times as possible daily. You should not have your funds stored in Bitget or any other centralized exchange for that matter, only use self custodial open source wallets. Not your keys, surely not your coins.
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Really? Then what's this about? ;D
https://www.bafin.de/SharedDocs/Veroeffentlichungen/DE/Verbrauchermitteilung/unerlaubte/2024/meldung_2024_01_29_bidget.html
https://www.iosco.org/v2/investor_protection/?subsection=investor_alerts_portal&id=30127&entity=Canada-Bitget-Limited
There is a case against Binance and Kucoin and this little ban only in Germany seems to be a small thing as it might get banned in many other countries soon but once they comply with their rules Bafin then they will be allowed in Germany too.
I although was not aware of this but it still seems to be not a big thing that we should leave it once for all because unless we are not Germans we can use it right?
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I recall that Zhao, the founder of Binance, recently completed his 4-month sentence for violating anti-money laundering protections. These issues with popular exchanges are concerning, especially since I have investments in them.
Who knows what might happen tomorrow? Should I consider consolidating all my assets into one exchange to be on the safer side? I don't want to risk waking up one day to find that the government has frozen all assets due to the exchange owner's negligence or wrongdoing.
What do you mean that you have invested in Binance, are you referring to investing in some coin on Binance exchange and calling it this way! If yes, that you can transfer your coins from that exchange to any other if you feel unsafe here, NFA.
I like your thought because I also have the same one, but I trust the exchange I have kept my funds in, but I have a few funds moved to other coins as well, I know how the experience of what it feels like to have funds on an exchange and seeing that exchange name in news that hey SEC has opened a case against this exchange hehe.
The last time Kucoin had this, I had few funds but not too much, like a few dollars only.
Maybe that's his concern that it will be like FTX before. especially because of the previous CZ issue, it's just that, in my opinion, it's a bit different. Because CZ has also received his sanctions and is now free. Binance is also still stable as a top exchange
Maybe he put some assets on the Binance exchange and he's worried that the Binance exchange will go bankrupt like FTX. Well, of course we have to be vigilant, but so far, it seems like everything is going well, and we'll just keep an eye on how it goes in the future
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Maybe he put some assets on the Binance exchange and he's worried that the Binance exchange will go bankrupt like FTX. Well, of course we have to be vigilant, but so far, it seems like everything is going well, and we'll just keep an eye on how it goes in the future
Everything always look like it is going well with these exchanges until they are hacked or they go bankrupt, i am not sayiing that binance is going to collapse, however it is something that is not impossible. That is why we only recommend self custodial wallet to store crypto.
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this little ban only in Germany
Austria https://www.fma.gv.at/bitget-bg-limited/
France https://www.amf-france.org/en/news-publications/news-releases/amf-news-releases/amf-reminds-public-cryptoasset-trading-platform-bitget-blacklisted
Japan https://www.fsa.go.jp/policy/virtual_currency02/bitget_limited_keikokushiryo.pdf
Hong Kong https://fintechnews.hk/28671/blockchain/sfc-warns-against-cbex-group-and-bitget-pro-for-crypto-fraud/
Canada https://www.iosco.org/v2/investor_protection/?subsection=investor_alerts_portal&id=30127&entity=Canada-Bitget-Limited
I bet there are a dozen more if I strat searching country but country.
So no way in hell I'm going to trust that exchange, especially after the shilling that;s going on here and on btctalk from newbies promoting it.
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Austria https://www.fma.gv.at/bitget-bg-limited/
France https://www.amf-france.org/en/news-publications/news-releases/amf-news-releases/amf-reminds-public-cryptoasset-trading-platform-bitget-blacklisted
Japan https://www.fsa.go.jp/policy/virtual_currency02/bitget_limited_keikokushiryo.pdf
Hong Kong https://fintechnews.hk/28671/blockchain/sfc-warns-against-cbex-group-and-bitget-pro-for-crypto-fraud/
Canada https://www.iosco.org/v2/investor_protection/?subsection=investor_alerts_portal&id=30127&entity=Canada-Bitget-Limited
I bet there are a dozen more if I strat searching country but country.
So no way in hell I'm going to trust that exchange, especially after the shilling that;s going on here and on btctalk from newbies promoting it.
There is not way I am going to use it again too I might for small amounts as I join small airdrops sometimes and there is a claim most of the time in this exchange but it just need to base usage otherwise I won't hold my funds on bitget ever too.
I was unaware of these bans and restrictions, this is enough to red flag and adding the spam here and on bitcointalk too that also raise question who is paying them to spam on these two platforms.
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Everything always look like it is going well with these exchanges until they are hacked or they go bankrupt, i am not sayiing that binance is going to collapse, however it is something that is not impossible. That is why we only recommend self custodial wallet to store crypto.
Since have been using Binance more than six years, I faced many time Binance exchange got hack and maintance for withdrawing assets but its happening for awhile only before all withdrawing return back normally. I can't predicting with future how possibility Binance get bankrupt or not but learning after many time hack cases faced by Binance always success recovery and the market return back normally.
One most important from Binance exchange if any hack case only withdrawing feature are stopping awhile but we can trade as normally.
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I was unaware of these bans and restrictions, this is enough to red flag and adding the spam here and on bitcointalk too that also raise question who is paying them to spam on these two platforms.
There's no way or rather no explanation to storing coins on an exchange. Before now i was also unaware of the banks are restriction. The truth is with or without awareness post like this people will still store their coins on exchanges. I think one of the most reasonable situations of having some coins on an exchange is if you do trade on that exchange if not I see no reason to hodl some coins there.
I think sometimes what compels people to making use of these exchanges to hodl their coins is because of the stake services they offer.
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One most important from Binance exchange if any hack case only withdrawing feature are stopping awhile but we can trade as normally.
Most exchanges do this when they are hacked and i don't see how that is an advantage to the exchange if you can trade but cannot withdraw. I see you are very happy with binance, there is nothing bad about that, but take note that if binance gets hacked and they lose a significant amount of funds, then they would be in trouble, do not believe that any exchange is too big to fail.
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There's no way or rather no explanation to storing coins on an exchange. Before now i was also unaware of the banks are restriction. The truth is with or without awareness post like this people will still store their coins on exchanges. I think one of the most reasonable situations of having some coins on an exchange is if you do trade on that exchange if not I see no reason to hodl some coins there.
I think sometimes what compels people to making use of these exchanges to hodl their coins is because of the stake services they offer.
This is a good reason for them some offer staking, some offer trading competition like perks, some offer interest etc. But the amount needs to be big to benefit from these perks. I also prefer to hold coins on non custodial wallets where we own the keys but like you explanied only those hold their funds on exchange who either have to trade.
Another reason in my opinion is some people hold their loong term holdings on exchanges because they want to make quick sellings and buying in congested times to get early benefit otherwise it would be late and lose will be made too.
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Have many people or trader still not trust yet with top exchange market such as Binance or Coinbase regarding how easily most top exchange like FTX got bankrupt and scam, its most safe when saving cryptocurrency in wallet and have own self controlling about private key without depend on third party as exchange market.
But for short term trading is not worth it saving assets in wallet by trading at Dapp exchange because get pay higher fees than trade at exchange market, so if want saving for long term recommended at wallet but for short term use Binance or another top exchange market.
I agree for short term trades we should hold our funds on exchanges if the coin is available on them and for long term holdings we should use wallets of which we should own the private keys because if we don't own the keys then we don'town the funds.
For short term if we hold our funds on wallets we have to pay fee again and again to move them here and there, therefore we that's not reliable, the reliable way is to hold them on exchange.
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Although most of my funds are currently in Bitget, which I believe has a clean record, I'm still worried about the potential risks. Who knows what might happen tomorrow? Should I consider consolidating all my assets into one exchange to be on the safer side? I don't want to risk waking up one day to find that the government has frozen all assets due to the exchange owner's negligence or wrongdoing.
Now you're acting like you're a bit bias with this. Yes, the thing with Binance and Kucoin might've affected their reputation, but I don't think that the amount of their customers using their services decreased by a lot. I said that you're a bit bias because you believe that "Bitget has a clean record", but you don't even know if they're doing bad things secretly, and it's just that, nobody has saw it happening until now. Who knows.
Just put all of your asset in one HARDWARE WALLET and not on one exchange. Putting it all on one exchange doesn't change the risk since these exchanges can get hacked. I guess I'm lucky that I didn't experience assets being froze on different exchanges, and I hope it will not happen, but I don't know what to do just in case that happen that's why I don't store it on the exchanges.
I wasn't biased because i have not seen the exchange i mentioned in any Shaddy situation, although no one is perfect if we see something that is not good enough it is good to always call it out.
No exchange has clean records, as you thought. The government hasn't come after Bitget doesn't make them clean than Binance and Kucoin the government always accused of shading deals.
I guess the government hasn't thought of coming after Bitget for once because if they do, they must find something to crucify them on, to collect millions of dollars from them. It's just a matter of time. Bitget can't stay clean forever