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Title: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: dkbit98 on January 31, 2025, 11:06:41 PM
Tether just announced they are coming to Bitcoin Lightning Network.
Some people think this ia s good thing, BUT remember that behind Lightning Network there is a firm Lightning Labs.
Maybe Tether is doing this to combat ban from EU and announced delisting from many centralized exchanges.
https://decrypt.co/303701/tether-usdt-bitcoin-lightning-network
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: Mia Chloe on February 01, 2025, 02:08:42 PM
Of all the stable coins we have on the coin market USDT is the only one I basically make use of most of the time if there is any reason or need for me to make use of a stable coin. Nevertheless I still don't fancy the news of this integration or Tether's said move on the lightning network. Basically even the Bitcoin lightning network is not as safe as on chain transactions.

Well I think it's left for us to sit back and watch the outcomes of their moves and decisions. Nevertheless I don't see a need for their said move.
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 03, 2025, 07:46:40 PM
Tether just announced they are coming to Bitcoin Lightning Network.
Some people think this ia s good thing, BUT remember that behind Lightning Network there is a firm Lightning Labs.
Maybe Tether is doing this to combat ban from EU and announced delisting from many centralized exchanges.
https://decrypt.co/303701/tether-usdt-bitcoin-lightning-network
Tether has declined to comply with MiCA because they consider it unfair, therefore the disappearance of USDT in the EU is completely normal and within Tether plan. I think Tether has its own strategy and minting USDT on the Lightning Network is part of it.

With the development of Layer-2 and the widespread adoption of BTC, the demand for transactions on the Lightning Network will continue to increase. The existence of USDT on this network will open up more access to capital and serve more users, I hope it will promote Tether expansion in the stablecoin sector.
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: dkbit98 on February 05, 2025, 08:26:23 PM
Tether has declined to comply with MiCA because they consider it unfair, therefore the disappearance of USDT in the EU is completely normal and within Tether plan. I think Tether has its own strategy and minting USDT on the Lightning Network is part of it.
This is a stupid plan in my opinion.
EU can just ban Lightning Network and LN wallets all together, it's not like this didn't happen already in United States with Phoenix and other wallets.
Or they can add mandatory verification for using Lightning, and that is even worse than just restricting use of USDT.
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 06, 2025, 08:09:16 PM
This is a stupid plan in my opinion.
EU can just ban Lightning Network and LN wallets all together, it's not like this didn't happen already in United States with Phoenix and other wallets.
Or they can add mandatory verification for using Lightning, and that is even worse than just restricting use of USDT.
As I understand it, even if USDT were created on the Lightning Network, it would still not be authorized in the EU. This is merely a plan for Tether to expand its influence and increase USDT marketcap.

Tether has its own calculations, and I respect that. Bypassing the EU market may not have a significant impact on Tether business. Additionally, Tether has invested in StablR - a MiCA-compliant stablecoin issuer. It seems that Tether is seeking to regain market share in Europe through this partnership with StablR ^^

Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: dkbit98 on February 07, 2025, 07:18:11 PM
As I understand it, even if USDT were created on the Lightning Network, it would still not be authorized in the EU. This is merely a plan for Tether to expand its influence and increase USDT marketcap.
It is only a matter of time when rest of the world will ban USDT also, it's not going to stop with EU.
I don't think any stablecoins will survive long term, unless they are created by regulators, and that makes them worse than current fiat currencies we have.

Tether has its own calculations, and I respect that. Bypassing the EU market may not have a significant impact on Tether business. Additionally, Tether has invested in StablR - a MiCA-compliant stablecoin issuer. It seems that Tether is seeking to regain market share in Europe through this partnership with StablR ^^
I heard about StablR but they have a long road ahead to increase adoption, and they basically starting from zero.
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 08, 2025, 07:35:44 PM
It is only a matter of time when rest of the world will ban USDT also, it's not going to stop with EU.
I don't think any stablecoins will survive long term, unless they are created by regulators, and that makes them worse than current fiat currencies we have.
I do not think USDT will be banned in other jurisdictions. MiCA is a quite harsh and unclear legal framework, and Tether dislikes it and chooses to withdraw from this market. Tether is still the largest stablecoin issuer in the market, USDT is quite well accepted in the US and Asia, so I believe in its future. Tether is holding a lot of US government bonds and the draft laws for stablecoins are very positive for USDT development.

USDT can be considered a tool for dollarizing the world that the US is applying very effectively. I think USDT will still exist in the long term and Tether will continue to make huge profits in 2025.
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: dkbit98 on February 08, 2025, 08:10:32 PM
I do not think USDT will be banned in other jurisdictions.
It is already banned in United States and EU, but you can think whatever you want.
Only way is if they shut down Tether and rebrand it with totally different name, with fresh start and they have to be fully regulated.
Or they go underground and lose top position as most used stablecoin in crypto markets.
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: bitcoin-shark on February 09, 2025, 06:23:53 PM
I wasn't aware of it but it's good news, the bitcoin blockchain is much more secure, even in my opinion it's a move to counteract the new EU regulation
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 10, 2025, 06:36:30 PM
It is already banned in United States and EU, but you can think whatever you want.
Only way is if they shut down Tether and rebrand it with totally different name, with fresh start and they have to be fully regulated.
Or they go underground and lose top position as most used stablecoin in crypto markets.
I have read some news about the possibility of USDT being banned in the US, but it is still just a bill and has not been officially passed. At the same time, even if it is passed, Tether will still have time to meet the audit requirements if the top auditing firms are more open to crypto.

In addition, because Tether holds a lot of US Treasury bonds and is part of the strategy to increase the popularity of the USD globally, I believe USDT will still be OK in the US for the time being. If USDT is actually banned in the US, I believe we will go straight into a crypto winter @@

Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: target on February 10, 2025, 07:06:40 PM
It is already banned in United States and EU, but you can think whatever you want.
Only way is if they shut down Tether and rebrand it with totally different name, with fresh start and they have to be fully regulated.
Or they go underground and lose top position as most used stablecoin in crypto markets.
I have read some news about the possibility of USDT being banned in the US, but it is still just a bill and has not been officially passed. At the same time, even if it is passed, Tether will still have time to meet the audit requirements if the top auditing firms are more open to crypto.

In addition, because Tether holds a lot of US Treasury bonds and is part of the strategy to increase the popularity of the USD globally, I believe USDT will still be OK in the US for the time being. If USDT is actually banned in the US, I believe we will go straight into a crypto winter @@

  • USDT will be banned in the United States, will USDC rise? (https://www.binance.com/en/square/post/20021416133129)
USDT going to be banned, is this really possible when the Tether company can just work with the US government. They violated laws since but they were still operating, there wasn't even auditing to this stablecoin which there should have form the start.

They gave Tether no penalty to what they did and I think Coinbase also have this advantage which the US government give them the permission. USD stablecoin is future to digital adoption.

Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: dkbit98 on February 15, 2025, 12:21:51 PM
USD stablecoin is future to digital adoption.
USD stablecoin is future of slavery.
It would be idiotic and stupid if people accept any kind of mandatory digital USD or any other kind of fiat currency, especially if they cancel cash.
I am sure they would add drastic restrictions and make it easier to cancel anyone who speaks against governments and rulers who control them.
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: MrSpasybo on February 15, 2025, 03:25:13 PM
USDT going to be banned, is this really possible when the Tether company can just work with the US government. They violated laws since but they were still operating, there wasn't even auditing to this stablecoin which there should have form the start.

They gave Tether no penalty to what they did and I think Coinbase also have this advantage which the US government give them the permission. USD stablecoin is future to digital adoption.
Tether will find it difficult to survive if it leaves the US. They are holding a large amount of US Treasury bonds and are earning huge profits from them, so they will try to comply with regulations. We have heard many accusations against Tether but no one has been able to prove that Tether is guilty. USDT is also a channel for the US government to attract global capital into Treasury bonds, so they love USDT very much. The US government has no reason to eliminate USDT or ban Tether.

I also believe that USDT will soon become popular globally as a fast, convenient, and cheaper payment channel than traditional channels. USDT has been involved in larger transactions such as buying and selling oil and real estate in the Middle East, which are the first steps of Tether into traditional finance to take advantage of blockchain power.
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: target on February 15, 2025, 04:07:34 PM
USD stablecoin is future to digital adoption.
USD stablecoin is future of slavery.
It would be idiotic and stupid if people accept any kind of mandatory digital USD or any other kind of fiat currency, especially if they cancel cash.
I am sure they would add drastic restrictions and make it easier to cancel anyone who speaks against governments and rulers who control them.

If back then US can make countries not able to use USD. In the future, Tether will also be able to control everyone such as freezing accounts. And this could be the reason why the US government didn't even try auditing this company because it cooperates with the government. I once watched the PlanB youtube video in which they are saying these stablecoins are actually the CBCD of the future and this is part of the plan.

I can only say we are tricked to believe there is financial freedom where we can trade freely without the middle man, well the government is still going to integrate themselves to the technology we are using such as Bitcoin.
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: dkbit98 on February 21, 2025, 11:27:28 AM
Does anyone know if any wallet started supporting USDT on Lightning Network or if they are planning to do that?
I am not hearing any news about this topic, maybe because people are not so much interested in this.
I recently heard people lost Bitcoin on Lightning Network just because they didn't update to latest version... bitcoin LN wallet older than one month, and you can lose your coins...
Decentralized LN my ass  :P

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Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: Mia Chloe on March 08, 2025, 08:59:52 PM
I can only say we are tricked to believe there is financial freedom where we can trade freely without the middle man, well the government is still going to integrate themselves to the technology we are using such as Bitcoin.
I'm getting a kinda worried about the direction things are heading with stablecoins like Tether. It's like, we're being sold this idea of financial freedom with cryptocurrencies but in reality these stablecoins could end up being just as controlling as the traditional financial systems. I mean, think about it, if Tether can just freeze accounts whenever they want, that's not exactly decentralized.

And what's even more concerning is the potential relationship between Tether and the US government. I've heard rumors that they're working together, which would explain why there's been no audit.
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: Trongduy on March 26, 2025, 05:24:16 PM
I'm getting a kinda worried about the direction things are heading with stablecoins like Tether. It's like, we're being sold this idea of financial freedom with cryptocurrencies but in reality these stablecoins could end up being just as controlling as the traditional financial systems. I mean, think about it, if Tether can just freeze accounts whenever they want, that's not exactly decentralized.

And what's even more concerning is the potential relationship between Tether and the US government. I've heard rumors that they're working together, which would explain why there's been no audit.
Tether has to play by Uncle Sam's rules, and they're aiming for a Big Four audit in the market. That could seriously boost the crypto community's faith in USDT's value.

Now, Tether's got its own thing going on, but they're not building their own blockchain, and USDT isn't exactly decentralized. Tether could freeze some hacker's USDT if the government says so, but hey, that's not my problem. I'm just a normal investor, chilling with my USDT.
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: dkbit98 on March 26, 2025, 09:01:26 PM
I found a nice article explaining more about USDT on Lightnng Network with good and bad sides.
With recent changes in regulations I am sure that Tether won't go unnoticed when it get's released on Lightning.
I can remember how they didn't allow Lightning wallets in US, and that can be expanded to other wallets soon.
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/usdt-on-lightning-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: kulkhan on March 30, 2025, 08:17:48 PM
I found a nice article explaining more about USDT on Lightnng Network with good and bad sides.
With recent changes in regulations I am sure that Tether won't go unnoticed when it get's released on Lightning.
I can remember how they didn't allow Lightning wallets in US, and that can be expanded to other wallets soon.
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/technical/usdt-on-lightning-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown
Yes this article will be very helpful to us to know about USDT on Lightnng Network with good and bad sides. We know Lightning wallets designed to work with Lightnng Network. It has huge good side. Like low fee, first and micro transaction etc. But we also know in US authorities didn't allow Lightning wallets.
But i think gradually Lightning wallets will more popular for It's good side. And Again thankyou for provide a good article.
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: dkbit98 on April 11, 2025, 08:25:14 PM
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Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: KryptoBull on April 22, 2025, 09:05:48 AM
I found a nice article explaining more about USDT on Lightnng Network with good and bad sides.
With recent changes in regulations I am sure that Tether won't go unnoticed when it get's released on Lightning.
I can remember how they didn't allow Lightning wallets in US, and that can be expanded to other wallets soon.
Tether has enough experience to help USDT-L become a legitimate asset in the US and many other countries. The appearance of USDT on Lightning will make it easier for many L2 users to access stablecoins, instead of being limited to just BTC.

I don't have specific data on the demand of Lightning users for stablecoins, but when they have access to USDT-L, they will have a need to swap or use USDT-L for payments over the Lightning network. This will help strengthen liquidity, similar to how USDT has driven the growth of the crypto market over time.
Title: Re: USDTcoming to Bitcoin Lightning Network
Post by: dkbit98 on April 24, 2025, 09:52:44 PM
Tether has enough experience to help USDT-L become a legitimate asset in the US and many other countries. The appearance of USDT on Lightning will make it easier for many L2 users to access stablecoins, instead of being limited to just BTC.
USDT is the same as USDT-L and there is no way for Tether to became legitimate stable coin in United States or in EU.
Tether already announced they are working on different stable coin that will be fully regulated, and it won't be connected with USDT in any way.
Lightning assets are also problematic in US, some LN wallets already has restrictions in that country.