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Title: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: dkbit98 on January 31, 2025, 11:12:15 PM
Latest news I saw is that father of Elon Musk, Walter Henry James Musk just decided to follow footsteps of Trump family and create his own crap meme token Musk it and raise $200M  ::)
https://cointelegraph.com/news/errol-musk-memecoin-musk-it-200m-raise

My question is why nobody is calling out Trump and Musk family for being a scammers with this meme tokens?
They are clearly abusing regular people to invest their money so they can dump on them later.
And by doing this they are motivating other scammers to continue with similar activity...
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Woodie on February 01, 2025, 01:22:38 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if there is some invisible hand that is pulling the strings and Musks name is just being used as collateral to get free money from innocent investor's.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Stompix on February 01, 2025, 01:42:58 PM
My question is why nobody is calling out Trump and Musk family for being a scammers with this meme tokens?

Because Trump good for cryto, Trump hype, much pump, such profit, wow!

People would vote for Hitler if he would airdrop them a few pennies, they would stick their tongue down Buffett's ass if he would buy 1 BTC, and many more. I asked in a topic if people would buy a nazi coin and I got users saying that they see no problem with such a coin.
This is what the majority wanted, this is what they are getting.

and btw

Latest news I saw is that father of Elon Musk, Walter Henry James Musk

that's this grandpa, not his dad, and he died last century.


Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Mia Chloe on February 01, 2025, 02:03:13 PM
Latest news I saw is that father of Elon Musk, Walter Henry James Musk just decided to follow footsteps of Trump family and create his own crap meme token Musk it and raise $200M  ::)
https://cointelegraph.com/news/errol-musk-memecoin-musk-it-200m-raise.
I really much wouldn't blame them for launching those coins because the people that get to lose their money from them were not actually forced into investing however they did invest in them nevertheless. Majority of mene coins if not all follow the same pattern of pump and dump the masses are aware of this but sometimes they are too greedy to not see it as a way to get rich.

Come to think of it those that we tag this coins are scam are those that actually lost a lot from them why those that profited from them will see nothing wrong in them. It's more like a regular profit and loss system.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: dkbit98 on February 01, 2025, 10:41:52 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if there is some invisible hand that is pulling the strings and Musks name is just being used as collateral to get free money from innocent investor's.
Literally his own father is creating this crap token.
And sure, Elon Musk is just a puppet controlled by his masters, people are naive to think he is really doing all his ''business'' on his own.

that's this grandpa, not his dad, and he died last century.
I tried to find the name of his father and that was result stupid AI gave me.
Never trust me or AI, and if you know his real name post it here :)
 
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Stompix on February 02, 2025, 09:57:19 AM
that's this grandpa, not his dad, and he died last century.
I tried to find the name of his father and that was result stupid AI gave me.
Never trust me or AI, and if you know his real name post it here :)

It's Errol Musk, and the last time I read news about those two they didn't get along too well, so this is more like his father piggy-banking on his son's name, but Elon himself did enough to land in jail anyhow.
Oh, and for the AI, simply don't use it, if it has been feed the wrong data it will give wrong answers too.

I really much wouldn't blame them for launching those coins because the people that get to lose their money from them were not actually forced into investing however they did invest in them nevertheless.

Nobody is forcing you to eat the food I've been poisoning, you should do your lab analysis before eating and don't blame me for your death.
See how this works?
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Freemind on February 02, 2025, 10:18:20 AM
It's about making money as quickly as possible. As I said in another of my posts, Trump is not only taking advantage of his position, he is also taking advantage of the future US Bitcoin reserve to launch various junk tokens. Why doesn't anyone raise their voice and say something? For the simple reason that in this world there are people who don't mind being spit in their face as long as they believe that they have the possibility of making money quickly and effortlessly.

We might think that Trump's opponents would complain about what the president is doing, but as we see, no one says anything. As long as all this remains the same, they will continue to launch tokens of this type so that many people lose their investment and Trump and his closest people continue to earn hundreds of millions of dollars.

It never ceases to amaze me how many sheep there are in the world.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: dkbit98 on February 03, 2025, 10:04:05 PM
It's Errol Musk, and the last time I read news about those two they didn't get along too well, so this is more like his father piggy-banking on his son's name, but Elon himself did enough to land in jail anyhow.
Oh, and for the AI, simply don't use it, if it has been feed the wrong data it will give wrong answers too.
Right, I remember story about his family that was doing business with diamonds, so they are certainly not clean.
I don't use AI for anything serious, but Brave search is giving automated AI answers.
Like it or not most people use stuff like that and you can see Trump and Musk are working OpenAI now.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: JoyMarsha on February 03, 2025, 11:03:56 PM
It's about making money as quickly as possible. As I said in another of my posts, Trump is not only taking advantage of his position, he is also taking advantage of the future US Bitcoin reserve to launch various junk tokens. Why doesn't anyone raise their voice and say something? For the simple reason that in this world there are people who don't mind being spit in their face as long as they believe that they have the possibility of making money quickly and effortlessly.

We might think that Trump's opponents would complain about what the president is doing, but as we see, no one says anything. As long as all this remains the same, they will continue to launch tokens of this type so that many people lose their investment and Trump and his closest people continue to earn hundreds of millions of dollars.

It never ceases to amaze me how many sheep there are in the world.
What you are saying now, I had said before that if people didn't begin to speak, to castigate all these high rises of memecoins being launched in the crypto space out of the blue, this will not stop happening. Because it just feels like nobody is against it, people are just liking it to continue as some are being favored financially through it. Some who would have loved to speak out fall into the same trap of investing with the motive of quick gains.

In the crypto space, the motive for quick gains is in the minds of many investors, and that's the reason why cryptocurrencies are on the rise; people chose it as the coin to launch since investors now see memecoins to make quick profits.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Freemind on February 05, 2025, 08:40:12 PM
What you are saying now, I had said before that if people didn't begin to speak, to castigate all these high rises of memecoins being launched in the crypto space out of the blue, this will not stop happening. Because it just feels like nobody is against it, people are just liking it to continue as some are being favored financially through it. Some who would have loved to speak out fall into the same trap of investing with the motive of quick gains.

In the crypto space, the motive for quick gains is in the minds of many investors, and that's the reason why cryptocurrencies are on the rise; people chose it as the coin to launch since investors now see memecoins to make quick profits.

Cryptocurrencies are becoming better known every day and more and more people are aware of them. The first thing people see are the famous names, Musk, Trump, Melania, Musk's father... And they believe that there is the essence of cryptocurrencies, it is sad, but it is true. I bet there are even newcomers who don't even know "who" Satoshi is, what a blockchain is and how it works. Unfortunately, we can't do anything to change that and the rise of memecoins grows every day.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Stompix on February 07, 2025, 06:40:41 AM
Why doesn't anyone raise their voice and say something?

Well, there was a guy who wanted all these to be treated like securities, and everyone who would promote and launch these things to be held liable for everything, just like every security out there is treated. But, the crypto world didn't like that guy and cheered when he was fired, and now, everyone is free to scam everyone and rug pull at any time since that's the freedom some wanted.

For the simple reason that in this world there are people who don't mind being spit in their face as long as they believe that they have the possibility of making money quickly and effortlessly.

People still kiss the asses of liars and scammers and even cheer for centralization if that would help them gain some $.
Keep a bag of popcorn ready for the time when going against the principles of BTC would mean more money, it will be a nice turn of events.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: target on February 07, 2025, 02:00:38 PM

Because Musk and Trump is above the law.   :P

No one wants to ruin them yet unless they are not in power anymore. There is nothing can be done when they are the official yet besides there are powerful people behind these two. They can both just destroy anyone who would claim they are scammers.

I don't think Gensler would even say something even if he is the SEC still. He even end up teaching in MIT not related to blockchain anymore AFAIK.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: bitterguy28 on February 07, 2025, 02:33:02 PM
People would vote for Hitler if he would airdrop them a few pennies, they would stick their tongue down Buffett's ass if he would buy 1 BTC, and many more. I asked in a topic if people would buy a nazi coin and I got users saying that they see no problem with such a coin.
you say this as a joke but actually people really would prop hitler if he was giving people free money i mean didn’t elon musk basically did the nazi hand salute? it was a debate online whether actually did it or not regardless of what you believe i think it’s safe to say that our world has become so greedy and we are being eaten by capitalism that we are forgetting about our morals
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Freemind on February 07, 2025, 09:10:58 PM
~snip~They can both just destroy anyone who would claim they are scammers.

That's another important part of the problem. Society, as a general rule, has allowed people to accuse, mark and draw a target on the heads of people who tell the truth and accuse abuse of power, like those we have seen. Since when do you have to be afraid to tell the truth?. And most importantly, why do we as a society allow it?. Yesterday I read an article that ended with these words: "The United States is no longer the country it was a few weeks ago". Unfortunately, I agree with those words.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Stompix on February 08, 2025, 10:24:09 AM
you say this as a joke but actually people really would prop hitler if he was giving people free money i mean didn’t elon musk basically did the nazi hand salute? it was a debate online whether actually did it or not regardless of what you believe i think it’s safe to say that our world has become so greedy and we are being eaten by capitalism that we are forgetting about our morals

Capitalism is not greed.
You can have greed in communism too, I know that too well since I lived in a communist dictatorship, greed and desire to acquire was beyond what you see now, capitalism is an economic concept, it can't change human nature and we have been killing each other for a better rock or a piece of hide for millennia.

Besides, bitcoin is the true definition of capitalism, you have money you buy, and you don't have any coins. No equal distribution, no welfare tax, no
 deduction, no nothing.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Mia Chloe on February 08, 2025, 09:07:31 PM
you say this as a joke but actually people really would prop hitler if he was giving people free money i mean didn’t elon musk basically did the nazi hand salute? it was a debate online whether actually did it or not regardless of what you believe i think it’s safe to say that our world has become so greedy and we are being eaten by capitalism that we are forgetting about our morals
You actually do have a point basically people will always have different points of views and that is part of the reason why be it a good move or a bad mood you will definitely find people that will either be in support or against it and I think that is what is happening here.

Some people are of the opinion that these persons literally created coins to milk the masses especially if such a person lost to those coins and on the contrary another would see it as a nice giveaway because they benefited from it. Either way the fact is none was forced into investing.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Findingnemo on February 15, 2025, 09:00:53 PM
Money that's all the matters to people.

Legally they are not scammers even if they dump it, it's just these stupid people are too blind to see that coming.

When people are going to stop worshipping these rich and powerful, do they believe will become one by doing so?
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: dkbit98 on February 18, 2025, 10:35:35 PM
I should add another scammer in this list, that is president of Argentina Javier Milei, who I think is friend with Trump.
Milei send ALL gold reserves of his country to unknown location outside Argentina, than he created scam token like his buddy Trump and he kisses the same wall as Trump.
https://www.euronews.com/2025/02/17/javier-milei-accused-of-fraud-over-promotion-of-cryptocurrency

Looks like all politicians are just a puppet scammers.  :P
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Wiwo on February 22, 2025, 11:36:27 PM
Latest news I saw is that father of Elon Musk, Walter Henry James Musk just decided to follow footsteps of Trump family and create his own crap meme token Musk it and raise $200M  ::)
https://cointelegraph.com/news/errol-musk-memecoin-musk-it-200m-raise

My question is why nobody is calling out Trump and Musk family for being a scammers with this meme tokens?
They are clearly abusing regular people to invest their money so they can dump on them later.
And by doing this they are motivating other scammers to continue with similar activity...
A popular musician in my country pulled up a similar crypto scam and no one is calling out for it, it seems that celebrities and politicians have decided to deliberately use their position and large followers and fans as a tool to enrich themselves by introducing fake and scam meme coins projects all to exploit their followers.

Trump did it, Melina did and now Musk's fathers; the cryptocurrency scam is becoming a family thing with everyone coming in to scam and exploit others, I wonder when there are going to be strong crypto laws.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: bitterguy28 on February 23, 2025, 02:16:35 PM
Trump did it, Melina did and now Musk's fathers; the cryptocurrency scam is becoming a family thing with everyone coming in to scam and exploit others, I wonder when there are going to be strong crypto laws.
now even the president of argentina did the same… i do believe that we also have some responsibility in choosing where to invest but also these famous people should learn how to look put for their reputations more and try to be more careful in promoting said projects

they should not associate themselves with projects they are not so sure of
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: dkbit98 on February 24, 2025, 08:33:51 PM
A popular musician in my country pulled up a similar crypto scam and no one is calling out for it, it seems that celebrities and politicians have decided to deliberately use their position and large followers and fans as a tool to enrich themselves by introducing fake and scam meme coins projects all to exploit their followers.
Sure, they all turned bitcoin market into one big circus show full of speculation and bunch of stupid meme coins also known as pump'n'dump.
I think we are going to see more cases like this in future, and there is a real danger of getting more restrictions for normal people because of this political backdoors.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: robelneo on February 27, 2025, 09:30:10 PM
Trump did it, Melina did and now Musk's fathers; the cryptocurrency scam is becoming a family thing with everyone coming in to scam and exploit others, I wonder when there are going to be strong crypto laws.
now even the president of argentina did the same… i do believe that we also have some responsibility in choosing where to invest but also these famous people should learn how to look put for their reputations more and try to be more careful in promoting said projects

they should not associate themselves with projects they are not so sure of

Much more on a politician because you enjoy your position coming from the votes of the people because of the trust they gave you, and if you lose that trust, you're good to be kicked out of the office. A president should never be involved in a project they are not sure of because, like a piper who led the children in a pit, the same thing the Argentinian did to many of the people who believe in him, its like political suicide and its happening right now.
Here is the latest update
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentina-meme-coin-scandal-dents-mileis-hunt-election-allies-2025-02-27/
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Wiwo on February 27, 2025, 10:50:13 PM
Trump did it, Melina did and now Musk's fathers; the cryptocurrency scam is becoming a family thing with everyone coming in to scam and exploit others, I wonder when there are going to be strong crypto laws.
now even the president of argentina did the same… i do believe that we also have some responsibility in choosing where to invest but also these famous people should learn how to look put for their reputations more and try to be more careful in promoting said projects

they should not associate themselves with projects they are not so sure of

Much more on a politician because you enjoy your position coming from the votes of the people because of the trust they gave you, and if you lose that trust, you're good to be kicked out of the office. A president should never be involved in a project they are not sure of because, like a piper who led the children in a pit, the same thing the Argentinian did to many of the people who believe in him, its like political suicide and its happening right now.
Here is the latest update
https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/argentina-meme-coin-scandal-dents-mileis-hunt-election-allies-2025-02-27/
I read that stuff from Argentina's president also, that is massive and Trump has indeed opened the way for more scam projects sponsored by top politicians, at first I thought Trump had a better vision for cryptocurrency but now jumping on meme coins and coin dumping massively make it somewhat scam and exit plan.

Trump's actions are now a motivation to others and we are beginning to see an inflow of that direction coming in from a few politically exposed persons.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Stompix on February 28, 2025, 05:16:12 PM
Sure, they all turned bitcoin market into one big circus show full of speculation and bunch of stupid meme coins also known as pump'n'dump.

Much Freedom, such economics, maga laws.
People hated Gary for going after exchnages and influencers launching shitty tokens, they got what they wished for.

at first I thought Trump had a better vision for cryptocurrency but now jumping on meme coins and coin dumping massively make it somewhat scam and exit plan.

Which part made you believe that
- we will write a crypto check with a few bitcoins on it and pay our debts?
- or him purchasing stuff with bitcoin while not even being able to touch his phone and letting others do it?
 :o


Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Freemind on February 28, 2025, 08:42:06 PM
A popular musician in my country pulled up a similar crypto scam and no one is calling out for it, it seems that celebrities and politicians have decided to deliberately use their position and large followers and fans as a tool to enrich themselves by introducing fake and scam meme coins projects all to exploit their followers.

Trump did it, Melina did and now Musk's fathers; the cryptocurrency scam is becoming a family thing with everyone coming in to scam and exploit others, I wonder when there are going to be strong crypto laws.

Unfortunately, it is becoming normal for anyone with some relevance in society (politicians, CEOs and their protected family members) to launch tokens and coins without anything happening, and that is dangerous for the industry and less experienced investors. But the danger is not only in that, it is also in how society “sees” us (that part that is far from cryptocurrencies). They will probably never take us seriously and will continue to think that we are just a group of geeks playing with monopoly money that has no use beyond the Internet.

Exchanges are blocked, mixers are closed (imprisoning their developers) and a witch hunt is carried out within an industry that is not perfect, it is true, but it is a young industry that must mature. On the other hand, we can see presidents, businessmen and very rich people doing whatever they want within that imperfect industry, without anything happening.

Strong with the weak, weak with the strong.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Mia Chloe on February 28, 2025, 11:42:28 PM
Unfortunately, it is becoming normal for anyone with some relevance in society (politicians, CEOs and their protected family members) to launch tokens and coins without anything happening, and that is dangerous for the industry and less experienced investors. But the danger is not only in that, it is also in how society “sees” us (that part that is far from cryptocurrencies). They will probably never take us seriously and will continue to think that we are just a group of geeks playing with monopoly money that has no use beyond the Internet.
Being uninformed about Meme coins before Actually proceeding to invest in them is like gambling or becoming someone who just dives into investing in any crypto currency without even capturing a proper analysis that would suggest a winning.

No one is forced to invest in any coin or token and as a result you should be able to do proper research before hand instead of blaming the general market trend.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Freemind on March 02, 2025, 04:58:38 PM
Being uninformed about Meme coins before Actually proceeding to invest in them is like gambling or becoming someone who just dives into investing in any crypto currency without even capturing a proper analysis that would suggest a winning.

No one is forced to invest in any coin or token and as a result you should be able to do proper research before hand instead of blaming the general market trend.

Precisely what you said is what I have been saying for years. And precisely that, the ignorance of a large part of society about cryptocurrencies, is what Trump, Melania, Milei and even Musk's father take advantage of, the general ignorance. Not knowing is not bad, but when someone takes advantage of that, that someone also bears part of the responsibility.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Stompix on March 02, 2025, 07:59:10 PM
No one is forced to invest in any coin or token and as a result you should be able to do proper research before hand instead of blaming the general market trend.

We should also get rid of any warning for drugs or cigarettes, also, right?
And what about the expiration date on food? Do your own research before buying it!
Road signs? What are those, just pay damn attention when you enter a crossroad section.
Allergies on products, ask on tiktok before using!
Do I need to add /s?


Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Ambatman on March 13, 2025, 03:10:45 PM
Money that's all the matters to people.

Legally they are not scammers even if they dump it, it's just these stupid people are too blind to see that coming.


They are scammers and such action is considered illegal and branded fraudulent under security law.
Just that the cryptocurrency market isn't properly regulated. Because they are destroying the integrity of the market
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Stompix on March 13, 2025, 11:21:58 PM
Money that's all the matters to people.
Legally they are not scammers even if they dump it, it's just these stupid people are too blind to see that coming
They are scammers and such action is considered illegal and branded fraudulent under security law.
Just that the cryptocurrency market isn't properly regulated. Because they are destroying the integrity of the market


And who screamed against those regulations?
Who screamed and sued the SEC when they were calling for those tokens to be treated as securities?
We have no longer any difference between the shady deals banks did with their subprime mortgages and exchanges selling pump and dump scams.

Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: dkbit98 on March 14, 2025, 12:12:56 AM
They are scammers and such action is considered illegal and branded fraudulent under security law.
Just that the cryptocurrency market isn't properly regulated. Because they are destroying the integrity of the market
You should know that law is not made equal for all people, even if they claim otherwise, elites and biggest criminals rarely end up in jail.
Look how many people got arrested (not) for connection with epstein case, there are people claiming Trump was on his island several times, same as scammer bill gates.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: albon on March 15, 2025, 12:28:35 PM
Many people have been loss affected by investing trump meme coin but many people have become rich by investing in doge coin because of elon musk. Investment should be based on personal research so we suffer due to lack of experience, because many people have benefited greatly from the Trump meme coin. In the coming days, we will find many crypto projects named using by famous people and there will be many scams. Even people invested in trump coin because it was promoted on social media. But then it quickly depreciated in value as Trump insiders moved their money to make a profit.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: dkbit98 on March 24, 2025, 11:32:15 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/nsQfg2vF/pic1508.jpg)

Do I really need to comment anything about this twitter post from official Trump account?!
Promoting his crap token and claiming it is cool and greatest of them all is so low  :P
If you didn't know by now that Trump and all other politicians are just puppets, circus clowns and scammers, now you know.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Freemind on March 30, 2025, 12:48:38 PM
Many people have been loss affected by investing trump meme coin but many people have become rich by investing in doge coin because of elon musk. Investment should be based on personal research so we suffer due to lack of experience, because many people have benefited greatly from the Trump meme coin. In the coming days, we will find many crypto projects named using by famous people and there will be many scams. Even people invested in trump coin because it was promoted on social media. But then it quickly depreciated in value as Trump insiders moved their money to make a profit.

At least Doge started in this industry on its own. Jackson Palmer and Billy Markus created the coin without any help and, more importantly, without celebrity influence, which is a point in Doge's favor. We've seen many celebrity-endorsed coins, and the same thing has always happened when people have lost money: the celebrities, at most, have paid fines, but investors have not recovered their losses. The worst part is that people keep investing their money in memecoins, which are "possibly" the next paradigm of cryptocurrencies, but no, these coins aren't actually game-changers, they're just the same old stuff.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Hatchy on March 30, 2025, 02:12:52 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/nsQfg2vF/pic1508.jpg)

Do I really need to comment anything about this twitter post from official Trump account?!
Promoting his crap token and claiming it is cool and greatest of them all is so low  :P
If you didn't know by now that Trump and all other politicians are just puppets, circus clowns and scammers, now you know.
He's trying to cause another fuss and I know how some investors would still rush into investing on his shit tokens even after the dump. We should expect more shit tokens from his household as it's now a way for them to create income and dump it on their investors. I never saw any future in $Trump even when it was pumping back then, what was much expected was the dump.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Wiwo on March 30, 2025, 03:03:30 PM
Latest news I saw is that father of Elon Musk, Walter Henry James Musk just decided to follow footsteps of Trump family and create his own crap meme token Musk it and raise $200M  ::)
https://cointelegraph.com/news/errol-musk-memecoin-musk-it-200m-raise

My question is why nobody is calling out Trump and Musk family for being a scammers with this meme tokens?
They are clearly abusing regular people to invest their money so they can dump on them later.
And by doing this they are motivating other scammers to continue with similar activity...
They consider coin investment as a high-risk investment and for that so long as the coin is active on the exchange no one can hold the project team or owner for the value of such coin, just like bitcoin everyone knows that it can go to zero and no one can be questioned as much as I can go to 100, so I believe that is the reason why the criminal laws have no much power on such developments.

In the eyes of the law, both the Trump family and the Musk family are innocent until proven guilty.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Stompix on March 30, 2025, 05:35:47 PM
Many people have been loss affected by investing trump meme coin but many people have become rich by investing in doge coin because of elon musk.

Don't even compare the current emem scams with doge!

The creator of doge didn't ask for money for their coins, there was no ICO, no IPO no nothing everyone was free to mine if they wanted, there was no premine, no stacks going directly to "devs", it was a clean launch just like Bitcoin was.

And most important of all, nobody got in that coin because of money in the first place.
So don't you dare compare doge with the scams that are the current memecoin that only enrich the ones launching them.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Freemind on April 07, 2025, 07:40:51 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/nsQfg2vF/pic1508.jpg)

Do I really need to comment anything about this twitter post from official Trump account?!
Promoting his crap token and claiming it is cool and greatest of them all is so low  :P
If you didn't know by now that Trump and all other politicians are just puppets, circus clowns and scammers, now you know.

It's a sad sight, but many people would have bought that garbage knowing what happened just hours after the token launch.

In the image below, we can see Trump token investors walking toward the nearest exchange, prepared to lose hundreds of millions more dollars.

They seem to be very happy.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fbHsF2hh/trump-investors.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Mia Chloe on April 07, 2025, 09:46:16 PM
It's a sad sight, but many people would have bought that garbage knowing what happened just hours after the token launch.
In the image below, we can see Trump token investors walking toward the nearest exchange, prepared to lose hundreds of millions more dollars.They seem to be very happy.
+1 for the Dark humour. People who lose to meme coins most of the time are either naive or greedy. Some are lucky enough to get the information of pump on time but are too greedy to exit the right time and in the end they Hodl the shit coin till they eventually become liquidated.

I don't know for the naive ones but you can't actually cut it out in meme coins with just hype. That's the reason I always emphasize on having premium information to make the most.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: JoyMarsha on April 07, 2025, 10:04:12 PM
Latest news I saw is that father of Elon Musk, Walter Henry James Musk just decided to follow footsteps of Trump family and create his own crap meme token Musk it and raise $200M  ::)
https://cointelegraph.com/news/errol-musk-memecoin-musk-it-200m-raise

My question is why nobody is calling out Trump and Musk family for being a scammers with this meme tokens?
They are clearly abusing regular people to invest their money so they can dump on them later.
And by doing this they are motivating other scammers to continue with similar activity...
It's weird to call out Trump and Elon Musk scammers when the world knows that they are multi-billionaires already. By the way, it is their family members who are launching their own crypto coins, not them in particular. You can't call them scammers because of that without evidence if you don't risk being jailed for long. Nobody forces you to invest in their memecoins. You are the one to blame yourself for not doing your own research on the coin. You invested out of hype because they are linked to Trump or Elon Musk
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: dkbit98 on April 07, 2025, 11:44:25 PM
Here is another SCAM coming from Trump clown menu.
I can't believe there are still people thinking he is playing some 5d chess with everyone...

(https://i.ibb.co/R4NggrTY/pic39.jpg)

You invested out of hype because they are linked to Trump or Elon Musk
I didn't invest anything, and if you can't see the obvius thing than I have to seriously wonder if you have something inside your skull or you are just writing crap to fill your signature posts  ::)
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: dkbit98 on April 09, 2025, 11:00:59 PM
Scam continues... now Trump is using his twitter account to advertise DJT stock  :P
This is his own company Trump Media & Technology Group Corp.
Everyone should stop trusting this clown and anything coming from him.

(https://i.ibb.co/gZpSVYxX/imgc3b65398d764837d702f8715d1c6e992.jpg)
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Stompix on April 10, 2025, 03:14:05 PM
You can't call them scammers because of that without evidence if you don't risk being jailed for long. Nobody forces you to invest in their memecoins.

Lol, in what kind of backward country with laws from the Ice Age do you live?

Based on that logic, drug dealers are doing nothing wrong because it's your choice to buy, Madoff didn't press anyone to buy in his investment, and all the scammers are just innocent because people were dumb to give them money.
What's next, don't considier rape if the victim didn't wear a bulletproof chastity belt?

It's this attitude that allows such scammers to go unpunished.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Mr. Magkaisa on April 24, 2025, 06:32:14 PM
           -    They are both have big connection and influenced as far as I know. And maybe they used this for the benefits of themselves as well, based on my opinion.
And because of this there are lot of scammers using their name to find a victim in the name of money.

And even for the meme coins they use their name in the coins to attract the crypto community to invest to their coins where in reality Trump and Musk doesn't have any related to this coins.
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: dkbit98 on April 24, 2025, 09:36:45 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/QvFMdTky/pic133.jpg)

Trump is now scamming everyone with his $TRUMP token and he is making people use this tokens to have Trump Dinner with him.
For 32,000 $TRUMP tokens or $400,000 you can get into the top 220 holders and attend the Trump Dinner.
One TRUMP token price is currently around $12:
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/official-trump
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Stompix on April 24, 2025, 09:53:33 PM
Trump is now scamming everyone with his $TRUMP token and he is making people use this tokens to have Trump Dinner with him.
For 32,000 $TRUMP tokens or $400,000 you can get into the top 220 holders and attend the Trump Dinner.

I am going to bet that you will also have to pay for the dinner and not just what you eat but for all the table.
I would be more surprised if that weren't the case.

where in reality Trump and Musk doesn't have any related to this coins.

The more people post here, the more I am convinced scammers could get away with everything right now, how in the name of god can one still believe this is not his own coin and he isn't scamming the whole community?

Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: dkbit98 on April 25, 2025, 10:04:09 PM
I am going to bet that you will also have to pay for the dinner and not just what you eat but for all the table.
I would be more surprised if that weren't the case.
I won't have to pay anything, and I wouldn't spent a single sat wasting time with Trump clown.  :P
But yeah, people are going to pay moer money to actually spend time with him, unless they are netanyahu and frens.
I am just looking this photo on token dinner website, and it's not even looking like real Trump, it's some AI generated puppet...

(https://i.ibb.co/q3Z2XkMh/pic161.jpg)
Title: Re: Why Musk and Trump are not scammers?
Post by: Wiwo on April 27, 2025, 11:52:27 PM
I am going to bet that you will also have to pay for the dinner and not just what you eat but for all the table.
I would be more surprised if that weren't the case.
I won't have to pay anything, and I wouldn't spent a single sat wasting time with Trump clown.  :P
But yeah, people are going to pay moer money to actually spend time with him, unless they are netanyahu and frens.
I am just looking this photo on token dinner website, and it's not even looking like real Trump, it's some AI generated puppet...

(https://i.ibb.co/q3Z2XkMh/pic161.jpg)
Really the Trump crypto movement is one he'll of a long way and many are already wearing  longe faces just like the one in the picture above, the AI work on that image looks like an armature work and should not be taking seriously.