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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: philipma1957 on February 13, 2025, 03:32:42 PM
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So far Joe Biden had the ATH for BTC and ETH under his belt
I am going to chart the price of Eth and BTC
Since jan 20 2025 the day Trump was sworn in to Track his effect on the Crypto market. and a possible flight to the safety of gold
......Date ........................... BTC ............................ ETH Gold
Jan 20 2025 108,200 3,208.93 2696
Jan 21 2025 102,052 3,278.44
Jan 22 2025 106,136.38
Jan 23 2025 103,657.67
Jan 24 2025
Jan 25 2025
Jan 26 2025 2770
Jan 27 2025
Jan 28 2025
Jan 29 2025
Jan 30 2025 103,709.34 3,113.29
Jan 31 2025 104,737.56 3,247.87
Feb 01 2025
Feb 02 2025
Feb 03 2025 2794
Feb 04 2025
Feb 05 2025 97,878.01 2,735.23
Feb 06 2025 96,610.64 2,787.66
Feb 07 2025
Feb 08 2025
Feb 09 2025
Feb 10 2025
Feb 11 2025 2,661.49
Feb 12 2025 95,745.70
Feb 13 2025 97,867.47 2909
so BTC down from 108k to 97,857 full cap is about 1.892 trillion down from 2.137 trillion
and eth down from 3208 to 2661 full cap is about 317 billion down from 382.1 billion
and gold up from 2696 to 2909 full cap is about 19.728 trillion up from 18.28 trillion
So basically the Trump effect has drained 300 billion from BTC and ETH and shifted it to gold
So the crypto presiding looks much like his toilet bowl is in mar largo: gold.
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Is this like a warning that Trump's branding to be a superhero for the cryptocurrency community is quite dubious? Many are still patiently waiting for Trump's sweet move to make the crypto community proud, and actually we still have a long time to wait for it, considering Trump just became president 1 month ago... there are still 3 years and 11 months left to wait for his policies for cryptocurrency.
BTW... actually my BTC supply is running low, and I am also waiting for the time to shop at a discount price... I believe the next bearish period will occur in the near future... preparation for it is much better.
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If you ask me the whole thing is basically a two-sided stuff and that's because if you can remember clearly before Trump was elected as president of the United States he actually made promises that his inauguration will improve crypto prices especially Bitcoin and that was what seem to happen shortly after he won the election.
With respect to this there is also a very high chance that all what is happening now is basically just a pullback that should be expected since the pump was way fast.
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This is the best presentation of where money is going from crypto. I don't trade in gold and I don't track it's price and market cap too but this shows the importance of tracking them. This thread deserve a positive karma because it is what we need.
But one thing I want to ask the honor of having ATH in BTC is under Trump's belt not Biden because it happened in Trump's time after he won the election many says after 20th inauguration the price of BTC dumped because of his meme coin if that's true.
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BTW... actually my BTC supply is running low, and I am also waiting for the time to shop at a discount price... I believe the next bearish period will occur in the near future... preparation for it is much better.
Seems 2026 would be the bearish year onwards so maybe we can fill in our bags for a much cheaper deal than what we have right now. I wish I can join the ride this time because I always left behind and missing that train again is quite sad so I better find ways to get funds as capital for that.
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BTW... actually my BTC supply is running low, and I am also waiting for the time to shop at a discount price... I believe the next bearish period will occur in the near future... preparation for it is much better.
Seems 2026 would be the bearish year onwards so maybe we can fill in our bags for a much cheaper deal than what we have right now. I wish I can join the ride this time because I always left behind and missing that train again is quite sad so I better find ways to get funds as capital for that.
Bitcoin has four year circle, and it happens that 2025 is the beginning of a new circle for another four years, and it is expected to be s bullish year, similar to 2021 and 2017. In facts, this is the reason many crypto enthusiast are anticipating for a bull run.
In addition, 2024 has witnessed huge support from the US new regime of president Donald Trump, who made some promises to the crypto community, though we are yet to see the outcome of his promises in 2025.
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This is the best presentation of where money is going from crypto. I don't trade in gold and I don't track it's price and market cap too but this shows the importance of tracking them. This thread deserve a positive karma because it is what we need.
But one thing I want to ask the honor of having ATH in BTC is under Trump's belt not Biden because it happened in Trump's time after he won the election many says after 20th inauguration the price of BTC dumped because of his meme coin if that's true.
He is not the president until Jan 20th 2pm EST he was sworn in.
People do not understand how greatly the USA law change due to Supreme Court rulings which state a president can not be charged with a crime if they are in office and do the crime in the name of the good of the USA.
Ie Biden could have shot trump in the head at anytime up until he was sworn in and claimed it was for the good of the country and thus not be charged with a crime.
which in turn means trump can have any one in the world executed and not be charge may the us if he claims he had it done on behalf of the usa.
thus my door could be kicked down as I type this and I could be executed simply on the standing presidents command.
So the high goes to Biden cause he was still in charge.
Now it is not to say one day the high won't being to trump I think it will but it may be a lot longer then people hope.
Maybe the slot is not 70-110k but 90-110k but we are sitting in a slot and we are staying there for a while.
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In facts, this is the reason many crypto enthusiast are anticipating for a bull run.
I am one of those many who are still anticipating a bigger bull run to come and of course the altseason to hit the market. As for Bitcoin, I think we are already experiencing a good level of bullishness ever since the prospect of Trump back to the White House...and I don't credit that to Biden/Harris regime even if the timeline started occurring during the man's lame duck and waning watch - in fact there is no Biden Effect whatsoever. Now, the question in my mind is whether there can be more OR it is whatever already it is. Seems to me that nobody can really give us some definite answers as we know that there are differing analysis on this spewed by "experts" and if you listen to them you will only end up more confused. In the end, only time can really tell what can be.
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In facts, this is the reason many crypto enthusiast are anticipating for a bull run.
I am one of those many who are still anticipating a bigger bull run to come and of course the altseason to hit the market. As for Bitcoin, I think we are already experiencing a good level of bullishness ever since the prospect of Trump back to the White House...and I don't credit that to Biden/Harris regime even if the timeline started occurring during the man's lame duck and waning watch - in fact there is no Biden Effect whatsoever. Now, the question in my mind is whether there can be more OR it is whatever already it is. Seems to me that nobody can really give us some definite answers as we know that there are differing analysis on this spewed by "experts" and if you listen to them you will only end up more confused. In the end, only time can really tell what can be.
Tom i do not know the future in fact I can not tell 30 seconds from now.
I FOUND IT STUNNING that the high was under Biden.
I DO NOT credit either one for big help to BTC or ETH. But I did not think Both BTC and ETH would suffer under Trump while gold and silver would gain bigly.
Gold and Silver are up about 10% while BTC and ETH are down at least 12 to 15%.
I hope we do pick up maybe In the fall.
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so BTC down from 108k to 97,857 full cap is about 1.892 trillion down from 2.137 trillion
and eth down from 3208 to 2661 full cap is about 317 billion down from 382.1 billion
and gold up from 2696 to 2909 full cap is about 19.728 trillion up from 18.28 trillion
So basically the Trump effect has drained 300 billion from BTC and ETH and shifted it to gold
So the crypto presiding looks much like his toilet bowl is in mar largo: gold.
This is really very informative, we should have invested in all of these three, BTC, ETH and Gold. But I would still prefer BTC as in near future money will again flow back to BTC and ETH because there are times like wards in which people could prefer BTC and ETH over Gold as some members stated above.
Overall I think trump has a great impact on BTC price as before election results it was not a very big thing and after that it seems like the only thing that motivating the price of BTC up or down. I hope with time price of BTC will pump again once Trump will start completing his promises.
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This is why the strong proponents of Gold are still shitting on BTC and other cryptocurrencies. It's like watching the tortoise and the hare compete ;D
Anyway, this is what it looks to me. Just as speculators gamble their money from the highly volatile memes and then move back to more 'stable' BTC, the same thing is done from BTC to Gold.
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This is really very informative, we should have invested in all of these three, BTC, ETH and Gold. But I would still prefer BTC as in near future money will again flow back to BTC and ETH because there are times like wards in which people could prefer BTC and ETH over Gold as some members stated above.
Overall I think trump has a great impact on BTC price as before election results it was not a very big thing and after that it seems like the only thing that motivating the price of BTC up or down. I hope with time price of BTC will pump again once Trump will start completing his promises.
I prefer bitcoin to gold, because bitcoin's price increases faster while gold prices tend to be stable. For ethereum, this is not the coin I choose. because the altcoins I choose are BNB, SOL and XRP.
There are many considerations and analyses why I don't choose ethereum because from the savings this coin does not show good movement.
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I prefer bitcoin to gold, because bitcoin's price increases faster while gold prices tend to be stable. For ethereum, this is not the coin I choose. because the altcoins I choose are BNB, SOL and XRP.
There are many considerations and analyses why I don't choose ethereum because from the savings this coin does not show good movement.
I would also prefer BTC over Gold and I did but for a profitable journey in investments and crypto we have to expand our coins/asset basket like we should consider Gold, and stocks both while the time is not good for trading in crypto.
We have to understand there are times when we should be trading in crypto, and not in other fields, and vice versa.
I also prefer XRP but not BNB because currently I am seeing Binance is breaking up due to number of reasons, I like ETH, and XRP most after BTC because ETH still have a lot of recovery to make and for XRP it already made people huge profit.
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I prefer bitcoin to gold, because bitcoin's price increases faster while gold prices tend to be stable. For ethereum, this is not the coin I choose. because the altcoins I choose are BNB, SOL and XRP.
There are many considerations and analyses why I don't choose ethereum because from the savings this coin does not show good movement.
I would also prefer BTC over Gold and I did but for a profitable journey in investments and crypto we have to expand our coins/asset basket like we should consider Gold, and stocks both while the time is not good for trading in crypto.
We have to understand there are times when we should be trading in crypto, and not in other fields, and vice versa.
I also prefer XRP but not BNB because currently I am seeing Binance is breaking up due to number of reasons, I like ETH, and XRP most after BTC because ETH still have a lot of recovery to make and for XRP it already made people huge profit.
I have not heard of any news suggesting that Binance is about to break up, if you have such news links, you can share it on the forum. Moreover, BNB is a great project, and a native token of the largest exchange in the world by trading volumes.
XRP has greatly improve in recent time, the Ripple CEO was with President Donald Trump few weeks ago, though his discussion with the president was not known but the meeting positively helped Xrp to pump massively.
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If you ask me the whole thing is basically a two-sided stuff and that's because if you can remember clearly before Trump was elected as president of the United States he actually made promises that his inauguration will improve crypto prices especially Bitcoin and that was what seem to happen shortly after he won the election.
He also promised to lower inflation, the price of eggs, the price of gas stop immigration, and have China pay for everything.
Have you checked how many of his promises have been forgotten?
How do you people keep falling for this conman's promises?
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Thank you for this nice comparison and good effort.
Yes, this is true, so far we have only seen promises of a rise and we have not seen any rise in the Trump era. It is true that only a month has passed since Trump took office, but Bitcoin was supposed to witness a strong upward push at this particular stage, but on the contrary, we are still noticing the decline.
But I believe that this 300 billion that was drained went to Meme Trump and Melania and not to gold.
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Recently, gold has some correction as well. But this is a good analysis philip for looking at BTC and ETH when Trump sits down. But I won't also deny that he did helped Bitcoin reaching $100k+ and with the newest ATH that we got in. I think that there is gotta be more to that for the rest of this year but we have to be patient before anything else because many of us still hopes that it will get to $120k - $150k.
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He also promised to lower inflation, the price of eggs, the price of gas stop immigration, and have China pay for everything.
Have you checked how many of his promises have been forgotten?
How do you people keep falling for this conman's promises?
The basic goal of any contesting party in an election especially one as big as a presidential seat in the US is actually to win so you should not be very surprised that they may actually make moves and statements that they may not really mean or may end up not fulfilling to make the people choose them.
Sometimes even in cases where they actually intend to fulfill all their promises, they may not be able to fix everything as fast as you expect and it may feel like empty promises during those periods.
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In facts, this is the reason many crypto enthusiast are anticipating for a bull run.
I am one of those many who are still anticipating a bigger bull run to come and of course the altseason to hit the market. As for Bitcoin, I think we are already experiencing a good level of bullishness ever since the prospect of Trump back to the White House...and I don't credit that to Biden/Harris regime even if the timeline started occurring during the man's lame duck and waning watch - in fact there is no Biden Effect whatsoever. Now, the question in my mind is whether there can be more OR it is whatever already it is. Seems to me that nobody can really give us some definite answers as we know that there are differing analysis on this spewed by "experts" and if you listen to them you will only end up more confused. In the end, only time can really tell what can be.
Tom i do not know the future in fact I can not tell 30 seconds from now.
I FOUND IT STUNNING that the high was under Biden.
I DO NOT credit either one for big help to BTC or ETH. But I did not think Both BTC and ETH would suffer under Trump while gold and silver would gain bigly.
Gold and Silver are up about 10% while BTC and ETH are down at least 12 to 15%.
I hope we do pick up maybe In the fall.
I understand what you are spotting out, which in summary means that currently, Trump government is in favor of gold, whereas, he claims to help the cryptospace grow during his tenure. Let's not rush to conclude but relax and watch if his actions will have good impact on bitcoin price in the long run. However, nobody can control bitcoin growth.
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I understand what you are spotting out, which in summary means that currently, Trump government is in favor of gold, whereas, he claims to help the cryptospace grow during his tenure. Let's not rush to conclude but relax and watch if his actions will have good impact on bitcoin price in the long run. However, nobody can control bitcoin growth.
Bitcoin has its characteristics and is changeful in terms of policies and decisions made around the world. Thus, observing its value, it is possible to focus on numerous economic and political aspects, which greatly affect the growth, but at the same time, its primary position is based on the liberty and decentralisation. We cannot afford to carry a biassed attitude when observing each development, which implies that we should not make haste in drawing conclusions. Anyway, the market always knows how to find a way to respond to the circumstances that prevail. They both helped in the understanding that to be informed is to be ready and that it is impossible to get caught off guard if one is calm while responding. The most important is, how all these things are met with calmness and more importantly, prepare for the next steps.
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Honestly, the crypto economy has experienced huge benefits on this regime especially the price of Bitcoin, and it has also given a big boost and confidence of investors, market makers, traders, others in my opinion.
In facts, despite the current side ways movements of Bitcoin for a long period, there is rising hopes that Donald Trump regime will increase crypto adoptions and awareness which will in turn increase demands overtimes. I think Bitcoin will touch $150k before the end of 2025.
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If you ask me the whole thing is basically a two-sided stuff and that's because if you can remember clearly before Trump was elected as president of the United States he actually made promises that his inauguration will improve crypto prices especially Bitcoin and that was what seem to happen shortly after he won the election.
With respect to this there is also a very high chance that all what is happening now is basically just a pullback that should be expected since the pump was way fast.
Well i think that these promises politicians make are not necessarily meant to be put into mind or beared in the heart. I’m not doubting how trump might be able to influence the crypto world positively but are all this words meant to be taken to heart?
If theres one thing ive learnt about politics is that politicians who wish to acquire certain positions use these promises as a wand to gain the enticement and insensitive of those they need to maybe vote for them or something else.Thats how basically the human nature is ,we always want to be pleased.Pleased by people around us and the everywhere..
I have said this before that assuming Kamala harris spoke on working on crypto in the financial markets and greatly influencing its worth instead of trump, she might have had a chance of winning too.lets say she also bought the burgers with bitcoins, who says she hasn't gained the insentiment of crypto investors? She would yave certainly.
I’m not necessarily doubting the positive effect trump administration might have in the crypto world but saying it is one thing and putting it into action is another too.
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I have not heard of any news suggesting that Binance is about to break up, if you have such news links, you can share it on the forum. Moreover, BNB is a great project, and a native token of the largest exchange in the world by trading volumes.
XRP has greatly improve in recent time, the Ripple CEO was with President Donald Trump few weeks ago, though his discussion with the president was not known but the meeting positively helped Xrp to pump massively.
Sorry I meant to say BNB not binance it's just BNB is the utility token from BSC network, and I relate it to mostly Binance but sorry for that, BNB is breaking because in my sight it already made a good ATH recently and now it is not showing any positive uptrend but still the last time it pumped it did not showed any then but still pumped so finger are crossed, therefore I am not that bullish on it.
I also saw the pictures of the lawyers of XRP with Trump which was something bullish and I had a plan to pick XRP from the dump around 2.1$ and I could pick it up but it had other plans and it crossed $3 well now I don't want to buy it instead I am trying to accumulate ADA but failing due to capital deficiency haha.
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Well i think that these promises politicians make are not necessarily meant to be put into mind or beared in the heart. I’m not doubting how trump might be able to influence the crypto world positively but are all this words meant to be taken to heart?
There are many factors to actually be considered when talking about promises politicians make during their campaigns. Sometimes they may not be able to achieve all what they promised during for example a short term of say 4 years like some countries do practice.
Sorry I meant to say BNB not binance it's just BNB is the utility token from BSC network, and I relate it to mostly Binance but sorry for that, BNB is breaking because in my sight it already made a good ATH recently and now it is not showing any positive uptrend but still the last time it pumped it did not showed any then but still pumped so finger are crossed, therefore I am not that bullish on it.
BNB seems more like a stuck network. I don't check charts too frequently these days probably because of my busy schedule recently but most times the coin doesn't seem to be making big moves like other altcoins like Solana.
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He also promised to lower inflation, the price of eggs, the price of gas stop immigration, and have China pay for everything.
Have you checked how many of his promises have been forgotten?
How do you people keep falling for this conman's promises?
The basic goal of any contesting party in an election especially one as big as a presidential seat in the US is actually to win so you should not be very surprised that they may actually make moves and statements that they may not really mean or may end up not fulfilling to make the people choose them.
So you acknowledge that he lied! Simple as this!
He promised things he was not able or doesn't care about, now why would he keep his promises about crypto?
In facts, despite the current side ways movements of Bitcoin for a long period, there is rising hopes that Donald Trump regime will increase crypto adoptions and awareness which will in turn increase demands overtimes.
Rising hopes? From the guy that is taking a shit on all his promises?
In what world do you live, in the Reverso universe?
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So you acknowledge that he lied! Simple as this!
He promised things he was not able or doesn't care about, now why would he keep his promises about crypto?
It what it is... Basically my base point is you should have a more resistant approach to most political declarations during campaigns especially. that's because the more you believe in them the more likely you tend to get hit emotionally when they eventually don't fulfil any of their promises or they make you feel you were used to place them there.
Politics is quite odd and you basically just have to be less emotional about it.
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So you acknowledge that he lied! Simple as this!
He promised things he was not able or doesn't care about, now why would he keep his promises about crypto?
It what it is... Basically my base point is you should have a more resistant approach to most political declarations during campaigns especially. that's because the more you believe in them the more likely you tend to get hit emotionally when they eventually don't fulfil any of their promises or they make you feel you were used to place them there.
Politics is quite odd and you basically just have to be less emotional about it.
Yeah, your points is right, not everything that politicians say should be taken seriously, and some of their promises may not be implement through out their tenure.
It is not advisable to believe all that the politicians say during campaigns because once they are elected, many things will definitely change, or there could be a personal change of mind about they promised probably because of too many interest due to pressure, and oppositions influence overtimes.
In facts, most politicians are found of making all manner of promises but end up doing nothing once elected. To avoid being emotionally carried away by politicians, it is better to avoid listening to them.