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Further Discussions => Economics , Sociology & Politics => Topic started by: bitterguy28 on February 20, 2025, 08:17:09 AM
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for countries under democracy, our votes are the most valuable thing for politicians they need you to vote for them really badly so when the time nears for election we see politicians campaigning and doing all kinds of stuff to appeal to the masses and be voted into position
one thing i notice, outside campaigning are subtle things that politicians do in order to look like they have been helpful to the citizens is whenever the election is near they start fixing up roads that don’t need any fixing
it feels like they are doing this just to show that they have been doing or contributing something to the country or to the city when it’s all performative
what behaviors do you notice from politicians when election is near aside from the obvious campaigning?
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You start to see their faces in multiple events. It's as if they became friendly and approachable to people once again after years of being 'missing in action'. In our local area, I see our municipal level politicians present during fires (or after it was declared out) as if they have really something to contribute. Even local basketball leagues are not spared, some even birthdays and weddings.
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You start to see their faces in multiple events. It's as if they became friendly and approachable to people once again after years of being 'missing in action'. In our local area, I see our municipal level politicians present during fires (or after it was declared out) as if they have really something to contribute. Even local basketball leagues are not spared, some even birthdays and weddings.
Yeah, they are on everything as possible just to be seen by people. Gotta make sure they look like they care, even if they don’t do much and they only make a move every time the election is near like making small projects and making sure they will be announced or so on the public.
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Whenever there is event even the wake of your dead neighbor they will start to show up and spend snacks for the sympathizers.
Doing all these still works and get them to a position they desire, people are gullible. I have told my wife not to vote a politician but come the day of voting I saw her checked his name because he helped the seaside be clean. People likes the local politician than the ones who are not originally from the area.
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They will become accessible for the general public.
Start giving away freebies and stuffs if they are in rule.
Make promises that are too good to implement.
People are naive to see this? Or they just accept this as their fate and continue electing them as their leader even after failing to fulfil their promises in the previous elections.
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These crocs have been using this strategy over and over again and yet the people in our country still fall to these traps. Nowadays, it is so hard to select the best because in the long run though not all but most of these angelics faces during elections will become reptilians due to the fact that they already have ideas on how to effectively corrupt the tax payers money.
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Even local basketball leagues are not spared, some even birthdays and weddings.
good point they are usually seen more doing ‘mundane’ things or doing things that the average citizen does so that they appear more relatable and that they can sympathize to what the average citizen is going through because they are also doing the same thing when it reality it is not real
These crocs have been using this strategy over and over again and yet the people in our country still fall to these traps. Nowadays, it is so hard to select the best because in the long run though not all but most of these angelics faces during elections will become reptilians due to the fact that they already have ideas on how to effectively corrupt the tax payers money.
the problem is a lot of people don’t seem to care if a politician has some cases pressed against them they usually go for personality instead of performance and track record it is very disappointing
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what behaviors do you notice from politicians when election is near aside from the obvious campaigning?
Politicians are strange individuals that have mastered human psychology and know how to manipulate people to their benefits. Aside from the obvious campaign, what I observed about politicians when elections are becoming closer is that they start fulfilling the former campaign promises that they had so that by the time they start making new promises, people will believe them. They start fulfilling the promises but do not complete them; they only start the process to gain the trust of people.
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one thing i notice, outside campaigning are subtle things that politicians do in order to look like they have been helpful to the citizens is whenever the election is near they start fixing up roads that don’t need any fixing
I think this only works if the politician is on their second term or something similar. To be fair maybe the instructions come from their political party leader to increase their seats in the government, depending on which country you live in. I don't think I see this practice near my area anymore since there's a new program for building infrastructure etc.
The only noticeable thing that always happens is people putting ads with their faces everywhere near the election date, even though it's explicitly illegal in my country afaik. They also buy stuff and donate it to their voters claiming it is not a bribe.
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for countries under democracy, our votes are the most valuable thing for politicians they need you to vote for them really badly so when the time nears for election we see politicians campaigning and doing all kinds of stuff to appeal to the masses and be voted into position
one thing i notice, outside campaigning are subtle things that politicians do in order to look like they have been helpful to the citizens is whenever the election is near they start fixing up roads that don’t need any fixing
it feels like they are doing this just to show that they have been doing or contributing something to the country or to the city when it’s all performative
what behaviors do you notice from politicians when election is near aside from the obvious campaigning?
It's same down here in my country. When they just enter the office, they'll be mean without doing anything to uplift the sufferings from their peoplebut when election is two year close, these politicians will start performing their duties trying to win the heart of the people to support them for second tenure. It's bad and they don't know what politics is and they're doing it the wrong way. It's not only when you need my support that you will listen to me and when you have gotten my support, you act as if we are enemies.
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for countries under democracy, our votes are the most valuable thing for politicians they need you to vote for them really badly so when the time nears for election we see politicians campaigning and doing all kinds of stuff to appeal to the masses and be voted into position
one thing i notice, outside campaigning are subtle things that politicians do in order to look like they have been helpful to the citizens is whenever the election is near they start fixing up roads that don’t need any fixing
it feels like they are doing this just to show that they have been doing or contributing something to the country or to the city when it’s all performative
what behaviors do you notice from politicians when election is near aside from the obvious campaigning?
It's same down here in my country. When they just enter the office, they'll be mean without doing anything to uplift the sufferings from their peoplebut when election is two year close, these politicians will start performing their duties trying to win the heart of the people to support them for second tenure. It's bad and they don't know what politics is and they're doing it the wrong way. It's not only when you need my support that you will listen to me and when you have gotten my support, you act as if we are enemies.
Politicians are one set of people that are deceitful and should not not be taken serious because to them all that matters to them is how they can win election and come back to office this kind of situation is dominant in developing countries where leaders are hungry for power you will see a political office holder who has not done anything and when it is close to election season beings to perform wonders all in a bid to gain favour with the people and get back to office
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what behaviors do you notice from politicians when election is near aside from the obvious campaigning?
Mingling with the poor people, showing up concerns in everything little thing that happens in the country. They will like to make their voice to be heard, if possible they will contribute financial to any event, be it good or bad that calls for national emergency.
All these motives are for to pass a message, to let the masses knows the care for them, which is all lies. It is just for the ambition of the political position they are verging for, to win the election.
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what behaviors do you notice from politicians when election is near aside from the obvious campaigning?
Anything that is pretentious on camera, even their platforms their video ads, its disgusting that's why i never participate in voting (not registered voter( because of this vote buying/selling culture once evey election.
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The so called leaders or politicians will always try their best to convince the public that they'll do a lot for them when they get elected, however once they get elected, they don't give a shit about their words.
I've noticed that trait in most politicians, they're masters of manipulation and they know how to manipulate public during elections and they also know how to manipulate them after winning. They're the alphas when it comes to manipulation.
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The so called leaders or politicians will always try their best to convince the public that they'll do a lot for them when they get elected, however once they get elected, they don't give a shit about their words.
I've noticed that trait in most politicians, they're masters of manipulation and they know how to manipulate public during elections and they also know how to manipulate them after winning. They're the alphas when it comes to manipulation.
The media in Philippines today is comparing these politicians are like suitors who make promises and despite us getting disappointed every now and then same politicians we elect every election. I guess their strategy is very much effective that people are not realizing they are tricked over and over.
I would actually prefer to see one person on top like a prime minister or simply a dictator in the government so we see at least projects are completed even if the project has planned to be finished after 20 years because the politician above is not replaced.
Right now politicians can't plan a project longer than 6 years because once they are not the sitting politician, their projects are going to be de-funded.
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The media in Philippines today is comparing these politicians are like suitors who make promises and despite us getting disappointed every now and then same politicians we elect every election. I guess their strategy is very much effective that people are not realizing they are tricked over and over.
seems like people only vote for whoever they know election these days is a popularity contest people are too lazy to research what every candidate has actually done and instead only votes for those they know of
Right now politicians can't plan a project longer than 6 years because once they are not the sitting politician, their projects are going to be de-funded.
a good politician will make sure his work is done and completed within 6 years and will remain beneficial to the country for longer a good politician has projects in which influences of it extend far beyond his time
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The media in Philippines today is comparing these politicians are like suitors who make promises and despite us getting disappointed every now and then same politicians we elect every election. I guess their strategy is very much effective that people are not realizing they are tricked over and over.
seems like people only vote for whoever they know election these days is a popularity contest people are too lazy to research what every candidate has actually done and instead only votes for those they know of
Right now politicians can't plan a project longer than 6 years because once they are not the sitting politician, their projects are going to be de-funded.
a good politician will make sure his work is done and completed within 6 years and will remain beneficial to the country for longer a good politician has projects in which influences of it extend far beyond his time
The only projects they find that will be over in less than 6 years are fixing roads that ain't broken. Sometimes they just create a bridge even when bridge is not really needed.
Most projects like the Ynares covered court. Just a project for a small village consisting of 500 houses. Or adding classrooms to a Pamantasan school which these kind of projects are designed to put their names on top of the building like they own it.
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People has lost the moral right to vote for the right candidate because over time it has become a culture for politicians to bribe their way to public office so it is now a tradition for people to only vote politicians with the biggest bag of money so the basis on which election is won is who spends the highest and this too has contributed towards the citizens not been able to hold our politicians accountable
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People has lost the moral right to vote for the right candidate because over time it has become a culture for politicians to bribe their way to public office so it is now a tradition for people to only vote politicians with the biggest bag of money so the basis on which election is won is who spends the highest and this too has contributed towards the citizens not been able to hold our politicians accountable
Yeah, majority of the so called politicians who says they are going to fight corruption are corrupted as well. You hear all allegations from each side of the fence during campaign period but 'hidden' in the shadows are their men doing the dirty work.
Once in a while you get to see rare politicians that's really for the good for their country. Unfortunately, they also encounter many politicians that hinders their job.
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I guess their strategy is very much effective that people are not realizing they are tricked over and over.
As I already said in my previous post, those politicians are masters of manipulation and that's why for them it's not hard to manipulate public again and again. The public wants to get their own demands fulfilled and that's why they support those politicians but those politicians just play with emotions of public and do nothing good in most countries.
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As I already said in my previous post, those politicians are masters of manipulation and that's why for them it's not hard to manipulate public again and again. The public wants to get their own demands fulfilled and that's why they support those politicians but those politicians just play with emotions of public and do nothing good in most countries.
Well yeah sad reality. If only the masses will learn every single mistake they did during elections there maybe an improvement as time passes by but the problem is they take election as a source of free money and that is where things becomes ugly because that will happen over and over again generations by generations because they normalize it.
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People has lost the moral right to vote for the right candidate because over time it has become a culture for politicians to bribe their way to public office so it is now a tradition for people to only vote politicians with the biggest bag of money so the basis on which election is won is who spends the highest and this too has contributed towards the citizens not been able to hold our politicians accountable
Yeah, hopefully, people will start voting wisely and choose leaders based on what they can actually do, not just who gives out the most money. Change has to start somewhere.
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Yeah, hopefully, people will start voting wisely and choose leaders based on what they can actually do, not just who gives out the most money. Change has to start somewhere.
citizens especially from third world countries who are poor enough would only care about short and immediate results if they are promised of money immediately that is who they will vote for and they wouldn’t even care if that person is corrupt or wouldn’t do well in the long run
vote buying has become so popular due to many struggling people
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People has lost the moral right to vote for the right candidate because over time it has become a culture for politicians to bribe their way to public office so it is now a tradition for people to only vote politicians with the biggest bag of money so the basis on which election is won is who spends the highest and this too has contributed towards the citizens not been able to hold our politicians accountable
Yeah, hopefully, people will start voting wisely and choose leaders based on what they can actually do, not just who gives out the most money. Change has to start somewhere.
voting for the right candidate is difficult because there are two ways about it because one in the part of the citizens due to poverty they are compelled to collect bribe and vote for the wrong choice even though they know that the candidate that they are voting for is not the right candidate, secondly in the part of the politicians corruption and bribery in the electoral process has made the entire election a fraud so any one that the political class has projected to win will definitely win because wether you vote for your candidate or not the anointed candidate of the political class will definitely win because of corruption so the citizens has no option of getting a good representation
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Just another thing to add to the discussion is that elections could be so polarizing that even long time friends and family members fight among themselves just to defend their chose politicians. Do not follow this path because most of these politicians do not really hate each other on a personal level. After election is over, you see them all smiles at different social gatherings and hugging each other (they could be allies in the next one). It's all business to them at the end of the day. Meanwhile, the friends and family who might have said something nasty to each other in the past makes it more difficult to reconcile.
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Just another thing to add to the discussion is that elections could be so polarizing that even long time friends and family members fight among themselves just to defend their chose politicians. Do not follow this path because most of these politicians do not really hate each other on a personal level. After election is over, you see them all smiles at different social gatherings and hugging each other (they could be allies in the next one). It's all business to them at the end of the day. Meanwhile, the friends and family who might have said something nasty to each other in the past makes it more difficult to reconcile.
well even if these politicians are smiling and exchanging pleasantries, they most likely still do not like each other since they have very opposing views and opinions
when family members fight amongst themselves it is because politics affect our lives and when a politician is expressing hate towards a very specific group of people where you are included and your family member is supporting said politician it is almost like your family is supporting hatred towards you as well so politics can also be personal
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People has lost the moral right to vote for the right candidate because over time it has become a culture for politicians to bribe their way to public office so it is now a tradition for people to only vote politicians with the biggest bag of money so the basis on which election is won is who spends the highest and this too has contributed towards the citizens not been able to hold our politicians accountable
Yeah, majority of the so called politicians who says they are going to fight corruption are corrupted as well. You hear all allegations from each side of the fence during campaign period but 'hidden' in the shadows are their men doing the dirty work.
Once in a while you get to see rare politicians that's really for the good for their country. Unfortunately, they also encounter many politicians that hinders their job.
No politician that hasn't entangled himself with corrupt practices. It is mainly during election campaign periods that we learn about the bad deeds of each politician who wants to contest for electoral position. That's when their fellow politicians will prefer to air out the bad political records of their fellow politicians so that they will appear bad to the masses. That only can sabotage the political ambition of the politician from winning the so-called election they verge for.
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for countries under democracy, our votes are the most valuable thing for politicians they need you to vote for them really badly so when the time nears for election we see politicians campaigning and doing all kinds of stuff to appeal to the masses and be voted into position
one thing i notice, outside campaigning are subtle things that politicians do in order to look like they have been helpful to the citizens is whenever the election is near they start fixing up roads that don’t need any fixing
it feels like they are doing this just to show that they have been doing or contributing something to the country or to the city when it’s all performative
what behaviors do you notice from politicians when election is near aside from the obvious campaigning?
The art of deception is the practice that most of our politicians today have perfected, especially before election they begin to put up behaviors that seems that they care or the citizens, but it is all a tactic to gain the approval and support of the masses. They are know ot sharing small bags of rice and garri, in some occasion, they share envelopes containing some amount of money. One funny thing about all this is that when they eventually enter into power the citizens will indirectly vommit and out all those money they collected due to persistent inflation and so on
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for countries under democracy, our votes are the most valuable thing for politicians they need you to vote for them really badly so when the time nears for election we see politicians campaigning and doing all kinds of stuff to appeal to the masses and be voted into position
one thing i notice, outside campaigning are subtle things that politicians do in order to look like they have been helpful to the citizens is whenever the election is near they start fixing up roads that don’t need any fixing
it feels like they are doing this just to show that they have been doing or contributing something to the country or to the city when it’s all performative
what behaviors do you notice from politicians when election is near aside from the obvious campaigning?
The reason why these politicians succeed especially in Third World Countries is the fact that votes don't count. I can say confidently that the level of manipulation during election is such that a candidate may not campaign but can win election. In fact, campaign is just to create an awareness but really doesn't matter.
If votes can count rulers will do the right thing in order to remain in power. Sadly, these rulers understand that they control everything and so power cannot be taken from them. Even though we say that sovereignty belongs to the people but in reality and happenings, especially in Third world countries sovereignty belongs to the electoral bodies and the judiciary.
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well even if these politicians are smiling and exchanging pleasantries, they most likely still do not like each other since they have very opposing views and opinions
The funny thing is that these politicians who are supposed to have different views can easily jump ship to the same team because they think that will help them more in winning the next election. There's a popular saying that goes there are no permanent friends/enemies in politics, only permanent interest.
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When it comes to election campaigns then the politicians become helpless and spend a lot of money and false propaganda. The promises they make during the election campaigns are mostly forgotten after winning the election. When a party wins an election they only think about themselves and loot a lot of resources. The more lies they spread during the campaign, the more voter turnout they will have. Every vote is important so any politician spends money to get a vote. However, voting is a personal matter so we will always make the worthy candidate win the election and vote for the people we like.
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They will become accessible for the general public.
Start giving away freebies and stuffs if they are in rule.
Make promises that are too good to implement.
People are naive to see this? Or they just accept this as their fate and continue electing them as their leader even after failing to fulfil their promises in the previous elections.
Am sorry to say this but we the citizens are very short sighted, we are more concerned about what we get now, without looking at the long term implications. When election is coming the politicians begins to behave like angels who came down from heaven, make promises that they know in their heart that they cannot fulfill. They share money, as well as bags of rice and garri to citizens just to buy their conscience and trust and we as Nigerians just fall for all this play and eventually elect them into power at the end of it all we begins suffering for the mistakes made by this people. It high term we become knowledgeable and resist from falling the the temptations of receiving money and gift items from this politicians.
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its been happening for decades though. if i am just the one who shall decide what to do to these politicians, they'd all be gone when a law is created to just hang them whenever promised isn't fulfilled.
but then these politicians are also backed a powerful politician from the national level. we just can't just even tell it to facebook anymore when we complain something because they can now call it fake news.
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what behaviors do you notice from politicians when election is near aside from the obvious campaigning?
Acting nice. Making promises that they will better the lives of everyone if given the chance. Any bad occurrence happening in the country that is not good for them will change within a space of time for their good.
When the time comes when elected, they forget the whole promises made to the masses. They will feel like a demigods not answerable to anyone
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what behaviors do you notice from politicians when election is near aside from the obvious campaigning?
Acting nice. Making promises that they will better the lives of everyone if given the chance. Any bad occurrence happening in the country that is not good for them will change within a space of time for their good.
When the time comes when elected, they forget the whole promises made to the masses. They will feel like a demigods not answerable to anyone
Yeah, that’s so true. When elections are getting close, politicians suddenly start acting all nice and friendly. They make a lot of sweet promises, saying they’ll change everything and make life better for everyone. If something bad is happening in the country, they quickly try to fix it just to look good in front of people. But once they win and get into power, they forget all those promises. They start acting like they’re above everyone else, like they don’t owe anyone any explanation.
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for countries under democracy, our votes are the most valuable thing for politicians they need you to vote for them really badly so when the time nears for election we see politicians campaigning and doing all kinds of stuff to appeal to the masses and be voted into position
Exactly you no them very well, that's when you will see them working, it seems a lot of politicians has that in common except the good ones because those ones doesn't use material things to get people because they already trust them from the things they had done in the past, meanwhile those other people will be creating some social amenities so that people will think that they will definitely do more than that after wining, so from experience some of the places are only remember during election in terms of new things coming in for them, so actually no matter how strong a politician in power feels it was people that put them there.
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Exactly you no them very well, that's when you will see them working, it seems a lot of politicians has that in common except the good ones because those ones doesn't use material things to get people because they already trust them from the things they had done in the past, meanwhile those other people will be creating some social amenities so that people will think that they will definitely do more than that after wining, so from experience some of the places are only remember during election in terms of new things coming in for them, so actually no matter how strong a politician in power feels it was people that put them there.
If majority of people has this mindset of making gains during elections and voting those who are already known corrupt politicians just because they show something good in public doesn't mean they deserve to win because we all know the expenses they had during elections will soon be refunded by the people's taxes whether we like it or not that is why the people should unite and vote wisely so we won't suffer three more years.
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Exactly you no them very well, that's when you will see them working, it seems a lot of politicians has that in common except the good ones because those ones doesn't use material things to get people because they already trust them from the things they had done in the past, meanwhile those other people will be creating some social amenities so that people will think that they will definitely do more than that after wining, so from experience some of the places are only remember during election in terms of new things coming in for them, so actually no matter how strong a politician in power feels it was people that put them there.
If majority of people has this mindset of making gains during elections and voting those who are already known corrupt politicians just because they show something good in public doesn't mean they deserve to win because we all know the expenses they had during elections will soon be refunded by the people's taxes whether we like it or not that is why the people should unite and vote wisely so we won't suffer three more years.
its because since then, this is what is happening though. when you live in the center of the city, all those people around your house knew you already that you supported such candidate, they will even all you to join the gathering because they are giving away cash after. people are drawn to this invitation and accepts it as normal.
but that's not what was taught in school. we kept saying vote wisely and not vote to those corrupt leaders but then people voted those who bought their votes. they think they are being wise.
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but that's not what was taught in school. we kept saying vote wisely and not vote to those corrupt leaders but then people voted those who bought their votes. they think they are being wise.
vote buying nowadays might not be as obvious since it can come in different forms some politicians may not give money under the name of vote buying directly but they might say that it’s just an extension of help and it is up to the voter to interpret that for some people they think it’s an act of kindness that is why they vote them but for some they simply do not care and will take the money
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We know vote buying and all the gimmicks but let's not forget that things could turn to extreme violence during the campaign period and/or election day. I just read about a local candidate shot dead while attending a political rally. I'm pretty sure there are more harassment going on. Be careful not to get caught in the crossfire.
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We know vote buying and all the gimmicks but let's not forget that things could turn to extreme violence during the campaign period and/or election day. I just read about a local candidate shot dead while attending a political rally. I'm pretty sure there are more harassment going on. Be careful not to get caught in the crossfire.
Yeah familair with that controversial guy and I am wondering why the shooter missed that shot when they are all known to be well trained haha I am an introvert guy so I am safe with gun fight but whenever I am outside of my safe zone I have this awareness on a higher level I am a tactical guy poor version haja
I agree that people should be vigilant on their surroundings nowadays especially it's now gun ban and only criminals are allowed to carry firearms.
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for countries under democracy, our votes are the most valuable thing for politicians they need you to vote for them really badly so when the time nears for election we see politicians campaigning and doing all kinds of stuff to appeal to the masses and be voted into position
Some don't even know about this as what they always focus on is what they will receive as bribery for voting the wrong aspirant and take their own bribery, forgetting that they will also join in the punishment of what they have done in a space of many years, that is why some cannot boldly come to face the corrupt leaders because they know what they both have in common which must not be revealed to the public.