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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: bitterguy28 on March 15, 2025, 03:50:18 AM
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as we approach the bear run do you think news and events will also slow down in the crypto industry? will there be less big announcements and projects because of bear run? will the people be less interested to involve themselves in the market?
or will governments and crypto companies try to boost the market every once in a while and release some big news and launch big projects and implement positive policies?
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We are close to bear market but we are not yet in bear market. I think we still have months left.
We can not know the future but there will always be news at every point in time. As the price of coins will fall, some people and institutions will see it as an opportunity to buy.
What that matters is for people to buy more during bear market and not focus on Trump market manipulation.
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Are we close to a bear market? Maybe. But buddy, even during a bull run, there’s something called a pullback and that’s exactly what’s happening now. It’s not just crypto stocks, forex, everything is down for now. This dip was already predicted during Bitcoin’s massive pump last year.
I still believe this bull run has more fight left we’re seeing big players buying in and more positive news, like a drop in meme trading, which means more money could flow into altcoins. So, let’s focus on the present and make the most of it!
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Interestingly the number of long term holders increases during this period and investors enjoy the low prices. This pattern often occurs in bear markets when committed investors buy coins at low prices and others panic and sell. Many traders see this as an opportunity to buy assets at low prices, hoping to recover in the future. Also, when Bitcoin drops below this line in late February 2025, it confirms that we are in bear territory.
Many new projects are prevented from entering the market at this time because they cannot come to the attention of investors at this time if they want to because everyone only wants to run with the top currency.At the beginning of a bear market, trading volume typically increases as many investors quickly adopt risk averse strategies, which contributes to further price declines.
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as we approach the bear run do you think news and events will also slow down in the crypto industry? will there be less big announcements and projects because of bear run? will the people be less interested to involve themselves in the market?
It is normal for investors to have a little less confidence in a bear market. Because many investors will lose their money or some will panic. The reason why many people lose interest in investing in a bear market.
or will governments and crypto companies try to boost the market every once in a while and release some big news and launch big projects and implement positive policies?
News in the crypto space has a big impact on the market. People from different parts of the world rely heavily on news to invest. However, whether this news is authentic or not is also an important issue. Not all news can be trusted because many people will try to profit from the market by spreading rumors or lies in the market. Investors need to take the right decision with an idea about good and bad, true and false news.
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Like i have been saying, though I'm not a big analyst, but i have not heard any information or confirmations of a bear run, whether it is already here or approaching. I think if bear run is here or approaching, it should not be a hidden things to the community in my opinion.
Again, i think the current market situation is aside way movements that may break out either side, that is, a break out of the $85k resistance level, or the break below the support on $75k levels.
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Maybe there will be policies that benefit it. It's possible that there would be people who would get themselves involved in crypto and maybe they are someone in a position to improve or do some changes in the crypto industry. I just hope it's not a meme coin or something.
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Like i have been saying, though I'm not a big analyst, but i have not heard any information or confirmations of a bear run, whether it is already here or approaching. I think if bear run is here or approaching, it should not be a hidden things to the community in my opinion.
Again, i think the current market situation is aside way movements that may break out either side, that is, a break out of the $85k resistance level, or the break below the support on $75k levels.
I also have not heard or read predictions from big investors saying that we will enter a bearish season. because currently based on experience it is still a bullish season. The current market condition is only a correction and we should continue to wait because the market is likely to rise again.
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What I often notice is that every time there is a big dump in the market, there is always good news. They fill the crypto news sites with good news yet the price is dumping.
But when the news sites are filled with bad news, the market is rising. It could just be me noticing this but so much have been in the news these days like Bitcoin reserves but after that news, prices was dumping.
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as we approach the bear run do you think news and events will also slow down in the crypto industry? will there be less big announcements and projects because of bear run? will the people be less interested to involve themselves in the market?
The market is always volatile with the hype of traders and holders. However, the frequent large movements and downs seen in the market are mainly due to the politics of big whales. They are creating a frenzy in the market and frequent market downs are causing many investors to abandon their investments at a loss and thay buy them back. In this way they are taking away all the investments from the small investors. Investors are now controlling the entire market
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Based on my observation we hear much political news rather than crypto related events aside from the recent breach from Bybit which cause some noise in the crypto community. Though it is too early to say so maybe we just need to wait and observe even though crypto seems losing news traction right now compared to last year or a couple of months ago.
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Cryptocurrency activity cannot be stopped, even in a bear market. There are always favorable opportunities, even when we are in a bear market. Moreover, bear markets are temporary, not permanent.
Good projects don't need a bull market to succeed, but the problem is that we haven't seen a successful project in a long time. Most projects are either scams or failures, and there is a widespread proliferation of meme coins that have no project and are worthless.
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First of all, judging by the behavioral pattern in the market currently, we are not yet in the bear season yet, prices of cryptocurrencies maybe going sideways at the moment, this is possibly due to bitcoin's struggle in getting enough buys to push up its price.
But even if we enter the bear market, I do not think there will be any slowing down in the news media, for even in a bear season, there are always alot of things for the media to report, many developers still launch new projects, those who are already here are also actively developing and sharing news with their community.
So, rests assured that there will always be something to report even in bear season, except a media that is run or managed by lazy people.
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What I often notice is that every time there is a big dump in the market, there is always good news. They fill the crypto news sites with good news yet the price is dumping.
But when the news sites are filled with bad news, the market is rising. It could just be me noticing this but so much have been in the news these days like Bitcoin reserves but after that news, prices was dumping.
Yes, when most investors/traders must have bought Bitcoin at certain price level, and price continue to dumps, then many speculators begiin to spread good news on different social networks and news channels about Bitcoin potentials.
You may notice news like, " Bitcoin will be $200k before the 2025", "Bitcoin will touch $150k in July, 2025"etc. In fact, many of this news are mere speculations, they are being spread to encourage more people to invest so that price will increase but the speculators will always dump once the price increases to certain level.
I doubt the genuine levels of some of these news because most of these news out there may be fake, and many are the hand works of speculators.
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Bear market is not near us yet, in my opinion, many think the same about it - sideways movement is now witnessed by us, and there is not enough confidence to push through it. Yet.
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Cryptocurrency activity cannot be stopped, even in a bear market. There are always favorable opportunities, even when we are in a bear market. Moreover, bear markets are temporary, not permanent.
Good projects don't need a bull market to succeed, but the problem is that we haven't seen a successful project in a long time. Most projects are either scams or failures, and there is a widespread proliferation of meme coins that have no project and are worthless.
Agreed. Good projects withstand the test of time. Afterward, they move up or down, but they are still on the market and keep developing.
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as we approach the bear run do you think news and events will also slow down in the crypto industry? will there be less big announcements and projects because of bear run? will the people be less interested to involve themselves in the market?
or will governments and crypto companies try to boost the market every once in a while and release some big news and launch big projects and implement positive policies?
It seems that way, when the market is bearish all crypto activities decrease. Such as news, trading activities and others. Even new projects that are in their infancy can slow down in situations like this. And I think that's normal, and everything will return to normal when the market starts to rise.
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It seems that way, when the market is bearish all crypto activities decrease. Such as news, trading activities and others. Even new projects that are in their infancy can slow down in situations like this. And I think that's normal, and everything will return to normal when the market starts to rise.
Sideways movement it is. We need more confidence in everybody to see the market to change.
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I am not sure if we are already in bear market but news have already gotten less and projects seems to be less inclined in launching their tokens these days as well.
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will the people be less interested to involve themselves in the market?
Investors will never get enough of being involved in the market, whether it's a bear or a bull. This coming bear is an opportunity to build up your portfolio for the coming bull run.
Investors always have two plans in the market: one for the bear and one for the bull.
or will governments and crypto companies try to boost the market every once in a while and release some big news, launch big projects, and implement positive policies?
Bear or bull market companies will continue to create news, and there will always news that will impact the market. the cryptocurrency market is very dynamic; there's always news coming in.
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Agreed. Good projects withstand the test of time. Afterward, they move up or down, but they are still on the market and keep developing.
But these memecoins were successful in terms of getting investments, it all depends on how we define successful projects if it means getting more then 100 million market cap then almost every 3rd project is successful and from the project's point of view they all are successful none of them says they are not :)
Good projects like SUI, XRP, SOL, Link are long term project and even TON in the list but they are long term project and returns on these projects can be higher if we hold them for longer period.
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But these memecoins were successful in terms of getting investments, it all depends on how we define successful projects if it means getting more then 100 million market cap then almost every 3rd project is successful and from the project's point of view they all are successful none of them says they are not :)
Good projects like SUI, XRP, SOL, Link are long term project and even TON in the list but they are long term project and returns on these projects can be higher if we hold them for longer period.
I agree that it depends on what we differ as "success".
The project itself may be successful, but we won't be successful with it making a profit (as with memes ::))
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I agree that it depends on what we differ as "success".
The project itself may be successful, but we won't be successful with it making a profit (as with memes ::))
That's right there are memes to explain this state but let's just be realistic here and make a definition of success for a project and not let them made that definition for us, they made it to some audit firm and clear their audit is a big success for them but for me it is not, for me the big success would be.
If they are introducing more projects in their ecosystem according to the trends of the market and getting more investments from real investors which are long terms not shot term whales who trade for short term profits.
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I agree that it depends on what we differ as "success".
The project itself may be successful, but we won't be successful with it making a profit (as with memes ::))
That's right there are memes to explain this state but let's just be realistic here and make a definition of success for a project and not let them made that definition for us, they made it to some audit firm and clear their audit is a big success for them but for me it is not, for me the big success would be.
If they are introducing more projects in their ecosystem according to the trends of the market and getting more investments from real investors which are long terms not shot term whales who trade for short term profits.
I also believe that success in a project can not only be the vision of the people managing it but also from the public and cost of capital. Inspection can be a success for them, but it did not mean that the ecosystem is sustainable in the future. By this, the project must be able to attract more new investors first of all, those who looking for the long term strategic cooperation, and also the producers should be able to introduce new developments meeting the needs of the market. Thus, if there is no actual developmental function in their ecosystem, audits shall remain a mere documentation system that will not substantially influence the overall growth of the project ultimately.
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But these memecoins were successful in terms of getting investments, it all depends on how we define successful projects if it means getting more then 100 million market cap then almost every 3rd project is successful and from the project's point of view they all are successful none of them says they are not :)
Good projects like SUI, XRP, SOL, Link are long term project and even TON in the list but they are long term project and returns on these projects can be higher if we hold them for longer period.
I agree that it depends on what we differ as "success".
The project itself may be successful, but we won't be successful with it making a profit (as with memes ::))
since we all have very distinct strategy and goals and even execution, we can't say that we will all be making good profit from one project especially one that is only a memecoin but if the majority of the investors use the project for transactions and also have made good profit from the project then that is successful to me if it did not just pumped then dumped then i think that can be considered a good project but at the end of the day it is really very subjective
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Cryptocurrency activity cannot be stopped, even in a bear market. There are always favorable opportunities, even when we are in a bear market. Moreover, bear markets are temporary, not permanent.
Good projects don't need a bull market to succeed, but the problem is that we haven't seen a successful project in a long time. Most projects are either scams or failures, and there is a widespread proliferation of meme coins that have no project and are worthless.
No condition is permanent, and change is constant. The crypto market is very volatile, and there are constant market changes which are not permanent, like the demand and supply factors. The bull and bear market are normal market situations, but sentiments, emotions, impatient are the most common challenge that affects the market trends, it is very obvious that non of this situation last for ever, they will come and go.
As for new projects, the bull market is important for all coin/tokens whether new or old, just the same the way the bear run affects all projects market prices. Bitcoin drives the entire crypto market, a Bitcoin bull or bear run affects the whole market.
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I also believe that success in a project can not only be the vision of the people managing it but also from the public and cost of capital. Inspection can be a success for them, but it did not mean that the ecosystem is sustainable in the future. By this, the project must be able to attract more new investors first of all, those who looking for the long term strategic cooperation, and also the producers should be able to introduce new developments meeting the needs of the market. Thus, if there is no actual developmental function in their ecosystem, audits shall remain a mere documentation system that will not substantially influence the overall growth of the project ultimately.
We can take USDT as an example here to explain what you just said, if it would not have the rate of adoption it have now then people will look for the audits but now USDT is a bigger thing even in EU and some other regions it has been restricted by the centralized exchanges but still people are preferring it and they don't look for audits.
A project can either become successful with adoption from the community or they have to introduce trending projects to expand their ecosystem so investors find it profitable; otherwise, they are dead.
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as we approach the bear run do you think news and events will also slow down in the crypto industry? will there be less big announcements and projects because of bear run? will the people be less interested to involve themselves in the market?
or will governments and crypto companies try to boost the market every once in a while and release some big news and launch big projects and implement positive policies?
People will still be investing in projects and new projects would still be coming, but the ratio would be lower then it is now, but it does not mean we won't get any opportunity to make profit in bear run, we can still do long trades in spot trading in BTC and other assets in bear run.
They will eventually add BTC and other alts to reserve and it would be the biggest news and from that point I guess the second peak of it will start as it is already on the way.
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As for new projects, the bull market is important for all coin/tokens whether new or old, just the same the way the bear run affects all projects market prices. Bitcoin drives the entire crypto market, a Bitcoin bull or bear run affects the whole market.
Yes, of course, a bull market is important for all coins and tokens and helps the market grow as a whole, but what I meant was that good projects can be created even in a bear market.
The main problem is that we haven't seen any serious, good projects in the industry for a long time. Most new projects are scams or worthless.
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as we approach the bear run do you think news and events will also slow down in the crypto industry? will there be less big announcements and projects because of bear run? will the people be less interested to involve themselves in the market?
or will governments and crypto companies try to boost the market every once in a while and release some big news and launch big projects and implement positive policies?
People will still be investing in projects and new projects would still be coming, but the ratio would be lower then it is now, but it does not mean we won't get any opportunity to make profit in bear run, we can still do long trades in spot trading in BTC and other assets in bear run.
They will eventually add BTC and other alts to reserve and it would be the biggest news and from that point I guess the second peak of it will start as it is already on the way.
overall people may prefer bull markets than bear markets, and that eventually makes them limit their investment when the market is bearish, I don't know the exact data, but this is a personal experience and also an assumption.
Some people may take advantage of this bearish market to collect their investment coins by buying at a lower price, of course it is based on the analysis they do.
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overall people may prefer bull markets than bear markets, and that eventually makes them limit their investment when the market is bearish, I don't know the exact data, but this is a personal experience and also an assumption.
Some people may take advantage of this bearish market to collect their investment coins by buying at a lower price, of course it is based on the analysis they do.
I agree with your assumption, as I also love the bull market than the bear market. Because in a bear market, we can't really see which trend is good to invest in, or what investors are finding more interesting, the bear trend is called bear because "bear" people want to dip it, or short it (mostly), and I don't like to short even though I don't like futures trading.
For spot traders, gem hunters, and even for airdrop hunters, the bear market can be less profitable, but there is the motivation we need, as investments made in a bear run or presales joining in a bear run, can give good profit in a bull run. But we have to be selective and careful with our time and money.
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as we approach the bear run do you think news and events will also slow down in the crypto industry? will there be less big announcements and projects because of bear run? will the people be less interested to involve themselves in the market?
or will governments and crypto companies try to boost the market every once in a while and release some big news and launch big projects and implement positive policies?
The bear season completes the circle of market rotation, just as we have the day and the night in real life. It takes the bear season to determine how massive the next bull season would be.
Most Investors don't like the bear season because of price drop, while others use this medium to purchase more of any specific asset of interest as it dips deeper in price...
While traders scalp profits from shorting.. The market still remains active and going no matter the season.
From the angle of a Bitcoin Reserve, I think it'll be a smile for the nations who adopts this policy. As it would foster them to acquire more holdings as the price dips (Just a prediction though).
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as we approach the bear run do you think news and events will also slow down in the crypto industry? will there be less big announcements and projects because of bear run? will the people be less interested to involve themselves in the market?
or will governments and crypto companies try to boost the market every once in a while and release some big news and launch big projects and implement positive policies?
The effect of news will always have impact on the market either on a short or long term effects, this has to do with the season we also have the market being presented with, we cant also because of some of these news concluded that they are such that renders it on dip, but instead to make it more bullish and then things keep going more further from the general crypto markets and their buying and selling performances.
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as we approach the bear run do you think news and events will also slow down in the crypto industry? will there be less big announcements and projects because of bear run? will the people be less interested to involve themselves in the market?
or will governments and crypto companies try to boost the market every once in a while and release some big news and launch big projects and implement positive policies?
The bear season completes the circle of market rotation, just as we have the day and the night in real life. It takes the bear season to determine how massive the next bull season would be.
Most Investors don't like the bear season because of price drop, while others use this medium to purchase more of any specific asset of interest as it dips deeper in price...
While traders scalp profits from shorting.. The market still remains active and going no matter the season.
From the angle of a Bitcoin Reserve, I think it'll be a smile for the nations who adopts this policy. As it would foster them to acquire more holdings as the price dips (Just a prediction though).
The bear market is the time to buy any coin that one is interested in and hold imo. It doesn’t matter if it’s Bitcoin or Alts. It’s a good opportunity for traders who want to invest on a longterm. No matter the cycle we are in crypto, there will always be a way to make profits like what you said about traders shorting to make profits.
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as we approach the bear run do you think news and events will also slow down in the crypto industry? will there be less big announcements and projects because of bear run? will the people be less interested to involve themselves in the market?
Different types of news definitely contribute to manipulate the crypto market. But those news must come from some valuable person like Donald Trump, Elon Musk and many others whose communication is taken very seriously. The crypto sector is completely online and depends on trust so different types of news will definitely affect the crypto sector.
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as we approach the bear run do you think news and events will also slow down in the crypto industry? will there be less big announcements and projects because of bear run? will the people be less interested to involve themselves in the market?
or will governments and crypto companies try to boost the market every once in a while and release some big news and launch big projects and implement positive policies?
The bear season completes the circle of market rotation, just as we have the day and the night in real life. It takes the bear season to determine how massive the next bull season would be.
Most Investors don't like the bear season because of price drop, while others use this medium to purchase more of any specific asset of interest as it dips deeper in price...
While traders scalp profits from shorting.. The market still remains active and going no matter the season.
From the angle of a Bitcoin Reserve, I think it'll be a smile for the nations who adopts this policy. As it would foster them to acquire more holdings as the price dips (Just a prediction though).
I've noticed that even though the bear market cools off a lot of the hype from regular people, the crypto world doesn't just hit pause. It's kind of fascinating to see how companies and even governments take this quieter time to stock up on assets and fine tune their projects, getting ready for the next big wave. The big splashy news isn't popping up as much lately but I can see there's still a ton of smart stuff going on quietly. I've watched those heavy hitters like the big investors and traders, staying super active which keeps the whole market from going totally flat. Honestly, i'm just trying to keep up with it all and focus on what's gonna matter most in the long run.
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- For now we are in the current bull run but we are not at the top of this bull run yet and it is not really happening yet, though as we approach the peak of the
bull we are also approaching or heading into bear season.
As we all know, until now we are still in the market with a level of unpredictable momentum in cryptocurrencies. What most people expect is not really
happening yet and will happen.
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Yess crypto is all about speculation, event is important things in crypto, in bull season event of any coin can pump coin upto 100% 200% in short term, now from past one month i am accumulate COTI because today coti will launch mainnet in few hours, because of this speculation event price jump from last 5 days so events are also very helpfull to take trade .
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Yess crypto is all about speculation, event is important things in crypto, in bull season event of any coin can pump coin upto 100% 200% in short term, now from past one month i am accumulate COTI because today coti will launch mainnet in few hours, because of this speculation event price jump from last 5 days so events are also very helpfull to take trade .
I've been keeping an eye on how wild crypto events can get with prices especially when we're in a crazy bull run like this. COTI's mainnet launch is a huge deal and I'm not even a bit surprised its prices has been going up like crazy lately it's just got that vibe right now! I love how these moments open up some awesome trading possibilities but I always remind myself to be careful since the excitement can die down fast. i'm really curious to see how COTI does once the launch hype settles a bit so I'll definitely be keeping an eye on it over the next few weeks.
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as we approach the bear run do you think news and events will also slow down in the crypto industry? will there be less big announcements and projects because of bear run? will the people be less interested to involve themselves in the market?
or will governments and crypto companies try to boost the market every once in a while and release some big news and launch big projects and implement positive policies?
The effect of news will always have impact on the market either on a short or long term effects, this has to do with the season we also have the market being presented with, we cant also because of some of these news concluded that they are such that renders it on dip, but instead to make it more bullish and then things keep going more further from the general crypto markets and their buying and selling performances.
That's how it is, every news whether positive or negative will have a impact, specially the source of the news. If it comes from US, for sure as superpower, it will have an effect. Just like what we have seen, Trump winning the election and then his whole tariff that started this bear market. But then after reports resurfaces that we might drop or lower the tariff next month, then it made a rally in the price hitting as high as $89k, and still we are still in this price range. And probably this is the basic of crypto, it is receptive to news as it directly influences investments sentiments and emotions.
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as we approach the bear run do you think news and events will also slow down in the crypto industry? will there be less big announcements and projects because of bear run? will the people be less interested to involve themselves in the market?
or will governments and crypto companies try to boost the market every once in a while and release some big news and launch big projects and implement positive policies?
The effect of news will always have impact on the market either on a short or long term effects, this has to do with the season we also have the market being presented with, we cant also because of some of these news concluded that they are such that renders it on dip, but instead to make it more bullish and then things keep going more further from the general crypto markets and their buying and selling performances.
That's how it is, every news whether positive or negative will have a impact, specially the source of the news. If it comes from US, for sure as superpower, it will have an effect. Just like what we have seen, Trump winning the election and then his whole tariff that started this bear market. But then after reports resurfaces that we might drop or lower the tariff next month, then it made a rally in the price hitting as high as $89k, and still we are still in this price range. And probably this is the basic of crypto, it is receptive to news as it directly influences investments sentiments and emotions.
Yes I said something like that in my previous post. How much effect a news market will have depends on where the news is coming from. People always make different comments about crypto, but not everyone's comments can have an effect on the market. There are certain individuals whose comments have a huge impact on the market. Crypto is now a hot topic worldwide and more or less all types of people comment on it. And that's why the crypto market has become so volatile now. Because different people's opinions have different effects on the market at different times
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I've noticed that even though the bear market cools off a lot of the hype from regular people, the crypto world doesn't just hit pause.
no of course not though it would just not be as busy and loud as it is now but there will still be some projects around the crypto industry the people do not just magically disappear once the bull run ends we just get quieter i guess
The big splashy news isn't popping up as much lately but I can see there's still a ton of smart stuff going on quietly. I've watched those heavy hitters like the big investors and traders, staying super active which keeps the whole market from going totally flat. Honestly, i'm just trying to keep up with it all and focus on what's gonna matter most in the long run.
you are right that there are not much headlines about crypto these days as there used to be a few months ago i bet that it will decrease even more in the future but if we are deep into the crypto industry enough i am sure that we can see some news still it will probably just would not have
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Funny enough, the bear season is when the whales come into the market to fill their bags properly while waiting for the next crypto season to come. Although some small-scale investors do not find it conducive to invest in such a market but would be speculating based on government actions and reactions which they hope to somehow pull the market up a bit in the bear season if they could be able to trade and take some profit. In all, news has a way of affecting the market positively or negatively which we all already know and have been the case for this past few weeks to be precise.
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Funny enough, the bear season is when the whales come into the market to fill their bags properly while waiting for the next crypto season to come. Although some small-scale investors do not find it conducive to invest in such a market but would be speculating based on government actions and reactions which they hope to somehow pull the market up a bit in the bear season if they could be able to trade and take some profit. In all, news has a way of affecting the market positively or negatively which we all already know and have been the case for this past few weeks to be precise.
This is true, keeping constant in mind that for some market players such a stable environment is the perfect background for preparing for even more turbulent shifts. Everyone has their own reaction towards a given event, some take up the stance of surviving, some just wait and some go ahead to occupy the available spaces. They are an indication of prices in the face of certain decisions made by various parties in certain circumstance. Such news tends to be quite influential especially depending on the extent and kind of the news that one is getting, either in the short run or in the long run. Others may consider it as an intrusion while others will collect it for analysis on what next step to take. This cycle always occurs in all many types of movements, and those who wish to observe for sure know that behind every movement, there is always a pause that can be optimised.
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since we all have very distinct strategy and goals and even execution, we can't say that we will all be making good profit from one project especially one that is only a memecoin but if the majority of the investors use the project for transactions and also have made good profit from the project then that is successful to me if it did not just pumped then dumped then i think that can be considered a good project but at the end of the day it is really very subjective
Memecoins are always subjective because they cannot be pumping all the time they first pump and then they dump and if they are good and backed by some famous person like Elon or Trump then they can pump again. For now I don't want to trade in meme coins because they are temporary and we cannot hold them.
The biggest fear is, what if we invested in the wrong time and it dumped and did not pumped later this way, we are stuck in this token for long time. I have been stuck in many projects.