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Title: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Ambatman on March 16, 2025, 01:13:07 PM
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/16/0hCqd.png)

A whale shorted Bitcoin and already in a profit of a million plus with liquidation around $85K
What are the odds they know nothing
Ever since Trump administration
Huge risk whale like this have spranged up and always make profit in hundreds of millions.
The funny is this one with 40* leverage is among the lowest and 50* the most popular.


What are your take on this?
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Hamza2424 on March 16, 2025, 01:54:40 PM
Seems like this guy has a lot of money or he's trying to test his luck using the liquidation chart in a short time frame, anyway he already got a lot of money for a single position, and on top of that the position is in cross liquidation trae which means he got extra funds as well haha.

The market is down from his entry price seems like his, testing got some extra money too.

Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: LogitechMouse on March 16, 2025, 03:17:16 PM
Seems like this guy has a lot of money or he's trying to test his luck using the liquidation chart in a short time frame, anyway he already got a lot of money for a single position, and on top of that the position is in cross liquidation trae which means he got extra funds as well haha.

The market is down from his entry price seems like his, testing got some extra money too.
I disagree with "trying to test his luck" but instead, he's an insider whale that has lots of connection towards other whales as well.

This wallet already has been posted yesterday and he only put I think around $225 Million to make a short position. Now he doubled down, and put even more money. I don't believe in luck when it comes to trading. Don't get me wrong though but for me, it's all about knowledge, experience, and connections with whales like the owner of that wallet.

As of this moment, the market has dumped already and the owner already made some fortune out of his position. The current price of Bitcoin is at $82,700, and there might be a chance that it will go down even more in the following days unless this whale will go out of his position. When I saw this post yesterday, I already put a short position.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: 0t3p0t on March 16, 2025, 03:40:40 PM
he's trying to test his luck
I don't think someone called "whale" happened to be just using "luck" on this trade with a whopping hundreds of millions of dollars shorting Bitcoin, isn't it a suicide? Though we all know trading is a game of speculation but damn money that huge maybe he knows something we don't. Or he is expecting for the price to fall back to $70,000 and he got confirmation that is why he is doubling the size of his investment but if you insist luck I am not buying that.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: omori on March 16, 2025, 04:08:26 PM
My thought on this - a person has funds to throw hands with the market.
That's all  ;)
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Hamza2424 on March 16, 2025, 08:20:24 PM
I disagree with "trying to test his luck" but instead, he's an insider whale that has lots of connection towards other whales as well.

This wallet already has been posted yesterday and he only put I think around $225 Million to make a short position. Now he doubled down, and put even more money. I don't believe in luck when it comes to trading. Don't get me wrong though but for me, it's all about knowledge, experience, and connections with whales like the owner of that wallet.

As of this moment, the market has dumped already and the owner already made some fortune out of his position. The current price of Bitcoin is at $82,700, and there might be a chance that it will go down even more in the following days unless this whale will go out of his position. When I saw this post yesterday, I already put a short position.

I also disagree with myself. On top of that I agree with you at first.

So you also made money, but the market is now in the range of 85k again and now again back to 83.5k. It seems like good days are ahead. It's sad to say but I cant take any short position even if I speculate the market on a point still cant you know.

My current portfolio is down by 70% still chilling around, but as a student, it's hard to imagine how to manage the upcoming fee payments haha.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: memehunter on March 16, 2025, 08:40:06 PM


My current portfolio is down by 70% still chilling around, but as a student, it's hard to imagine how to manage the upcoming fee payments haha.

OOUCHH, 70% is a lot. Why in the earth you gambled with your tuition fees?
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: tabas on March 16, 2025, 09:24:08 PM
What are the odds they know nothing
..
What are your take on this?
They know something and aside from the other factors that people might tell, these whales can do analysis on their own. I think one thing in consideration is on how they're getting information like for some insiders that they can take advantage with. But I believe that there are the whales that can do this easy with their experience. Well, who knows if these whales have internal connections and they will know prior dumping and so they put themselves in good positions.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Hamza2424 on March 16, 2025, 09:30:49 PM
OOUCHH, 70% is a lot. Why in the earth you gambled with your tuition fees?

Haha, do you think I am that stupid to gamble, first of all, I don't believe in gambling in any of it's any form. I'm jobless haha, as a student in South Asia it's not surprising to be jobless while studying now planning to move to some other country for a master's and have some good opportunities.

well let's cut the story short these are not my fee funds but I was planning to use them as a source for tuition fees, I can find an alternative anytime soon for that one. and for tuition fees there's enough time to pay.

Yup 70% is too much, it's all because of the Altcoins, and it's not like altcoins I had are from degens or meme coins, 90% of them are in the top 100 and are good projects.

But because I had converted the maximum portion into the Altcoins portfolio fell by 2x, still it's still the Bitcoin portion supporting the rest haha, until it was 50 50 everything was good when it got 20 to 80 proportion due to these terrific talks market crashed and Altcoins are close to their dead end.

70% is a rough estimate it's somewhere between 50 to 70.

Free advice, never cross the plan boundaries and always hold the maximum portion in Bitcoin.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Bobcrypto on March 16, 2025, 09:43:19 PM
he's trying to test his luck
I don't think someone called "whale" happened to be just using "luck" on this trade with a whopping hundreds of millions of dollars shorting Bitcoin, isn't it a suicide? Though we all know trading is a game of speculation but damn money that huge maybe he knows something we don't. Or he is expecting for the price to fall back to $70,000 and he got confirmation that is why he is doubling the size of his investment but if you insist luck I am not buying that.

It is very real for anyone to gamble with hundreds of millions dollars, trying to trading with such a huge sum like that can not be classified as a luck.
There are many whales who are highly experienced holders, it is likely that whales would wank to dump the price to buy again at a very cheap price. Selling high and buying back a cheap price has been the most used strategy by many whales, and i don't think that any whales will buy/sell like newbies. many of the whales are highly experienced traders/Holders.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: memehunter on March 16, 2025, 09:45:16 PM
Haha, do you think I am that stupid to gamble,
How do I know? It is about finding favourable odds and I do no think that those who gamble (with poitive EV)  are stupid either.

  I don't believe in gambling in any of it's any form.

Since its your belief, I will refrain from commenting.

these are not my fee funds but I was planning to use them as a source for tuition fees,

What does that even mean? Since you have panned to spent them as your tution fee, then by definition these were your tution funds. But I will not stress it further, your money your choice anyway.
It is good to hear that you are not that much affected by loss and still can pay tution fee.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Hamza2424 on March 16, 2025, 09:54:54 PM
How do I know? It is about finding favourable odds and I do no think that those who gamble (with poitive EV)  are stupid either.

Hehe yup, you are right too how would you know whether I'm stupid or not believe me I'm not haha, but those who gamble are stupid in my view as they are gambling it's enough to know about them that they are stupid.

No hate for anyone just my general prespective.


What does that even mean? Since you have panned to spent them as your tution fee, then by definition these were your tution funds. But I will not stress it further, your money your choice anyway.
It is good to hear that you are not that much affected by loss and still can pay tution fee.

Hmm, buddy thanks for the concern haha, since I was planning to use them, but we always plan many things and it is not like if I was planning it and was the only source, I thought the market was in a good swing, and with my returns on Altcoins can save some more, but I didn't go in the direction I was expecting still it's not like I'm lost all of us are sticking to market and for sure sooner or later the market will recover.

Even the 90% down can't affect as I'm not gambling anywhere, but it could have been better with my experience but it is what it is now.

Yup! ALhamdullialh, I can pay the remaining fees.

Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Ambatman on March 16, 2025, 10:18:14 PM
My thought on this - a person has funds to throw hands with the market.
That's all  ;)
No body that rich will be that foolish
If they are taking such gamble it means it doesn't mean much to them.



I disagree with "trying to test his luck" but instead, he's an insider whale that has lots of connection towards other whales as well.
My thoughts too
Though he almost got liquidated when Bitcoin touched $85K but now he has gone back to profit.
If a news comes up that leads to a dip
Then it would be certain that it's an insider trading.
Won't be surprised if it's Trump related.


Free advice, never cross the plan boundaries and always hold the maximum portion in Bitcoin.
This is why I run away from altcoins
They don't do well with the concept HODL
But more with trading.


If the whale doesn't get liquidated and a news comes that would lead to a dip
Then it means TA is no more.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: TomPluz on March 17, 2025, 06:04:39 AM

I am sure this "whale" of a trader has the command of the market and is taking a good speculative move that can significantly boost his wealth. Yes, there can be some form of luck in this as there really is in all things we do but I am sure that with that huge millions in his hands he is tuning in with market developments and is using his connections to feel the market and where it is going. However, it should be  pointed out that this is just another speculation and the guy is taking the risk involved...in other words there is no guarantee that the market will react according to what he intends to happen as many whales had been liquidated in the past but if the guy is right then he would be smiling with a lot of laughter to the bank of Dave.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: tequilla_sunset on March 17, 2025, 08:40:11 AM
There also was a thread on X that interested Justin Sun in "overthrowing" this whale and liquidating him with the help of the "team" the guy gathers.

Seems just insane to me.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Charles-Tim on March 18, 2025, 01:09:38 PM
This is why I run away from altcoins
They don't do well with the concept HODL
But more with trading.
Even trading is very risky. Maybe for me. I just do not like it anymore. Holding is better.

Altcoins are truly not a store of value. Most of them will only pump and dump.

If the whale doesn't get liquidated and a news comes that would lead to a dip
Then it means TA is no more.
TA are always not accurate but it is important.

It remains a little for the position to get liquidated. The liquidation price is not far from $85250 or so but bitcoin mrse to $85150.

The whale is highly risking his money. It does not worth it at all. But probably he wants people to sell.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on March 18, 2025, 01:38:17 PM
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/16/0hCqd.png)

A whale shorted Bitcoin and already in a profit of a million plus with liquidation around $85K
What are the odds they know nothing
Ever since Trump administration
Huge risk whale like this have spranged up and always make profit in hundreds of millions.
The funny is this one with 40* leverage is among the lowest and 50* the most popular.


What are your take on this?

We should not compare ourselves to that of a whale, he can afford on that high risk, because for him to be called a whale shows that he is a strong financially inclined user, which he can afford to take the consequence that may come out as a result, this rich men have strong affinity of taking risk, they can afford having na backup in case of anything, we should know this, so seeing anything coming now from them is only a risk and display of what they are capable of, they also have some bad times of high loss we may not know.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: arabspaceship123 on March 18, 2025, 02:07:18 PM
It doesn't look like it's carries enough info to worry about. He's got large btc funds so he's released some cash.

What are your take on this?
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Stompix on March 18, 2025, 05:06:00 PM
Ever since Trump administration

You have the answer right there.
Is the same trader that shorts Bitcoin or goes long right before Trumps dumps some shit on social media.

He shorted Bitcoin, just a few hours later Trump comes online and says the tarrfis will be in pace on April 2nd, crypto goes red, the stock market goes red, insiders fill their pockets while idiots keep licking Trump's ass like he is the messiah while he is ruining the crypto market.
But god forbid for anyone to pull their heads out from the sand.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Ambatman on March 18, 2025, 05:39:13 PM
Ever since Trump administration

You have the answer right there.
Is the same trader that shorts Bitcoin or goes long right before Trumps dumps some shit on social media.

He shorted Bitcoin, just a few hours later Trump comes online and says the tarrfis will be in pace on April 2nd, crypto goes red, the stock market goes red, insiders fill their pockets while idiotskeep licking Trump's as like he is the messiah while he is ruining the crypto market.
But god forbid for anyone to pull their heads out from the sand.
My thoughts exactly.
His liquidation hasn't been reached despite volatilty and Bitcoin just fell below $82K today.
I'm looking for fed rate decision tomorrow if he would be liquidated or going home big.


Edit

(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/18/089B1.jpeg)
He's in $4million plus profit
And some tram wanted to liquidate him hence the pump we saw.
https://dailyhodl.com/2025/03/18/crypto-whale-opens-332000000-bitcoin-short-position-sees-profits-even-after-getting-hunted-on-chain-data/
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: yhiaali3 on March 18, 2025, 05:58:47 PM
I don't know much about leveraged trading because I think it's a bit risky, but whales certainly know how to capitalize on opportunities even during bearish times.

It's certainly not a matter of luck, but rather an understanding of the market and knowing how to capitalize on market conditions and entry and exit points. Although I believe whales don't have much trading knowledge, there are others who do the work for them. That's what I believe. ;)
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: taufik123 on March 18, 2025, 09:00:29 PM
I don't know much about leveraged trading because I think it's a bit risky, but whales certainly know how to capitalize on opportunities even during bearish times.

It's certainly not a matter of luck, but rather an understanding of the market and knowing how to capitalize on market conditions and entry and exit points. Although I believe whales don't have much trading knowledge, there are others who do the work for them. That's what I believe. ;)
Whales know what to do and no matter what the state of the crypto market is, it will always give them an advantage because they can manipulate the market with their money and take more profits by short selling or even long selling using high leverage.

If you think whales don't have a lot of knowledge, of course you are wrong, whales already know what steps they will take for the profit that can be obtained and they also have their own trading tools and of course not in general trading, only certain people know.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: |MINER| on March 18, 2025, 10:17:35 PM
I don't think someone called "whale" happened to be just using "luck" on this trade with a whopping hundreds of millions of dollars shorting Bitcoin, isn't it a suicide? Though we all know trading is a game of speculation but damn money that huge maybe he knows something we don't. Or he is expecting for the price to fall back to $70,000 and he got confirmation that is why he is doubling the size of his investment but if you insist luck I am not buying that.
I will agree with you in this point that it doesn't only happened by only luck while we were seeing this from the whale then we must know they have well and good strategy behind of this. Because it is actually general knowledge that no one would leave his million dollars to luck alone while he is doing trading. If he is a gambler then that is a different matter. LOl
Moreover, I think that small traders like us who don't know anything about analysis mostly rely on luck not the whale.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Innocant on March 19, 2025, 08:16:46 AM
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/16/0hCqd.png)
What are your take on this?
Do you think the whales took such a risky trade to lose?  Of course not.  Soon after he entered the market, his position went viral, creating a small panic in the market.  And it succeeded in doing so.  The market fell from 85 thousand to 82 thousand.
A few days ago
 Whales shorting Bitcoin have closed positions today.

 $9.46 million profit in last 8 days.
Not only that, a kind of theater was going on in the market at that time.  On the one hand a whale was shorting bitcoin in hyper liquid and on the other hand Justin Sun was trying everything whale to liquidate him from the market.  From the middle some common public liquid like us has been consumed but at the end of the day you will see that they have taken out the nature.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: omori on March 19, 2025, 08:24:28 AM
Whales know what to do and no matter what the state of the crypto market is, it will always give them an advantage because they can manipulate the market with their money and take more profits by short selling or even long selling using high leverage.

If you think whales don't have a lot of knowledge, of course you are wrong, whales already know what steps they will take for the profit that can be obtained and they also have their own trading tools and of course not in general trading, only certain people know.

Whales can't play with probabilities - they put lots of faith and analysis in each action due to the volumes they are moving, so I agree with you.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: taufik123 on March 19, 2025, 08:41:32 PM
Whales can't play with probabilities - they put lots of faith and analysis in each action due to the volumes they are moving, so I agree with you.
More volume allows them to do anything in the crypto market, so they have the power to make the market bullish or bullish.
scenarios that they do to make their profits more.

Then we need to think like whales and there is no need to panic, because panic will be the beginning of all the losses that occur because of the purpose of whales manipulating the market at the moment.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Charles-Tim on March 19, 2025, 09:50:05 PM
A few days ago
 Whales shorting Bitcoin have closed positions today.

 $9.46 million profit in last 8 days.
I hope he has closed it because if he has not closed the position, he will be in losses by now and all his money would have been liquidated. Bitcoin rose above $85288 few hours ago which is the liquidation price.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Stompix on March 19, 2025, 09:59:58 PM
I hope he has closed it because if he has not closed the position, he will be in losses by now and all his money would have been liquidated. Bitcoin rose above $85288 few hours ago which is the liquidation price.

He did it at the perfect time, 9 million in profit.
Now technically one could have taken advantage of that, the fact that it's clear he was an insider since he shorted it right before Trump's announcement and closed before the FED day should have been an indicator the news would come in positive, so one could have gone long the moment he closed that.

But seriously now, the market is just f^ up, the amount of manipulation and insider trading is nauseating.

Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: tequilla_sunset on March 20, 2025, 10:40:47 AM
I hope he has closed it because if he has not closed the position, he will be in losses by now and all his money would have been liquidated. Bitcoin rose above $85288 few hours ago which is the liquidation price.

He did it at the perfect time, 9 million in profit.
Now technically one could have taken advantage of that, the fact that it's clear he was an insider since he shorted it right before Trump's announcement and closed before the FED day should have been an indicator the news would come in positive, so one could have gone long the moment he closed that.

But seriously now, the market is just f^ up, the amount of manipulation and insider trading is nauseating.

Agreed.

But good for him, he did everything just like it was written in the book  8) Let's see what the future unfolds for us.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: arabspaceship123 on March 20, 2025, 02:54:45 PM
Investors are buying & selling every day so we can't say one trade's indicative of where the market's going. There isn't any thing to worry about because trading direction's aren't going to be set by one seller who's a whale.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Ambatman on March 20, 2025, 03:50:20 PM
I hope he has closed it because if he has not closed the position, he will be in losses by now and all his money would have been liquidated. Bitcoin rose above $85288 few hours ago which is the liquidation price.

He did it at the perfect time, 9 million in profit.
Now technically one could have taken advantage of that, the fact that it's clear he was an insider since he shorted it right before Trump's announcement and closed before the FED day should have been an indicator the news would come in positive, so one could have gone long the moment he closed that.

But seriously now, the market is just f^ up, the amount of manipulation and insider trading is nauseating.
He didn't just close in profit but bought some Ethereum and longed Melania as can be seen by the image I posted previously.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-whale-closes-516m-short-081951367.html

Manipulation without any fear of been called out
Trump and Co may end up been the richest president before leaving office.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: omori on March 21, 2025, 12:13:15 PM
He didn't just close in profit but bought some Ethereum and longed Melania as can be seen by the image I posted previously.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-whale-closes-516m-short-081951367.html

Manipulation without any fear of been called out
Trump and Co may end up been the richest president before leaving office.

What a market we live in.

Imagine such a situation during a previous cycle.. We would be called madmen.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Bobcrypto on March 22, 2025, 06:25:40 AM
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/16/0hCqd.png)

A whale shorted Bitcoin and already in a profit of a million plus with liquidation around $85K
What are the odds they know nothing
Ever since Trump administration
Huge risk whale like this have spranged up and always make profit in hundreds of millions.
The funny is this one with 40* leverage is among the lowest and 50* the most popular.


What are your take on this?

We should not compare ourselves to that of a whale, he can afford on that high risk, because for him to be called a whale shows that he is a strong financially inclined user, which he can afford to take the consequence that may come out as a result, this rich men have strong affinity of taking risk, they can afford having na backup in case of anything, we should know this, so seeing anything coming now from them is only a risk and display of what they are capable of, they also have some bad times of high loss we may not know.

Yes, comparing ourselves with whales is unnecessary, they are people with very large capital all the time to long or short the Bitcoin price at their own risk, though they can profit on their short positions.
In additions, whales are sometimes the reasons why the market goes red/green at some periods, once they buy with huge capitals, at the slightest price changes (a little percentage increase), they dumps the market, and they will position to buy again when many traders/holders start panic selling. Panic sellers will always sell cheap to them because of fear market total crash..
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on March 22, 2025, 09:29:48 AM
(https://www.talkimg.com/images/2025/03/16/0hCqd.png)

A whale shorted Bitcoin and already in a profit of a million plus with liquidation around $85K
What are the odds they know nothing
Ever since Trump administration
Huge risk whale like this have spranged up and always make profit in hundreds of millions.
The funny is this one with 40* leverage is among the lowest and 50* the most popular.


What are your take on this?
What I am seeing in the screenshot you shared doesn't seem like a profit as you said, but rather, who ever that whale is already in a loss or potential loss of over 1 million dollars, except there is something I am not understanding well in the information on the screenshot, then please point that out to me and I will gladly take correction.

I have a high doubt this trade will go well if it's still a fresh trade, but then, looking at the time you made this post, I guess this trade may no longer be active, but if it still is, then there is really a high chance that this whale will lose huge money, because right now, bitcoin has more potential of rising than falling.

Just my personal presumption and opinion though.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Ambatman on March 22, 2025, 10:13:16 AM

What I am seeing in the screenshot you shared doesn't seem like a profit as you said, but rather, who ever that whale is already in a loss or potential loss of over 1 million dollars, except there is something I am not understanding well in the information on the screenshot, then please point that out to me and I will gladly take correction.

I have a high doubt this trade will go well if it's still a fresh trade, but then, looking at the time you made this post, I guess this trade may no longer be active, but if it still is, then there is really a high chance that this whale will lose huge money, because right now, bitcoin has more potential of rising than falling.

Just my personal presumption and opinion though.
Yeah I understand when I posted it the first time
Bitcoin price was around $82K and he was on profit.
Some team came together to liquidate him
Hence we saw a sharp push to $85K the same day but he added more to escape liquidity then Bitcoin price dropped more and he made bigger profit.
You can see more on this quoted post I made.
I hope he has closed it because if he has not closed the position, he will be in losses by now and all his money would have been liquidated. Bitcoin rose above $85288 few hours ago which is the liquidation price.

He did it at the perfect time, 9 million in profit.
Now technically one could have taken advantage of that, the fact that it's clear he was an insider since he shorted it right before Trump's announcement and closed before the FED day should have been an indicator the news would come in positive, so one could have gone long the moment he closed that.

But seriously now, the market is just f^ up, the amount of manipulation and insider trading is nauseating.
He didn't just close in profit but bought some Ethereum and longed Melania as can be seen by the image I posted previously.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-whale-closes-516m-short-081951367.html

Manipulation without any fear of been called out
Trump and Co may end up been the richest president before leaving office.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: arabspaceship123 on March 22, 2025, 10:22:28 AM
Starting a topic on a whale selling a bitcoin wasn't necessary. Maybe he wanted cash in his bank we don't why he did it but it didn't deserve analysis in a dedicated topic. It's his bitcoin he sold it so what's the big deal ?
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: pawel7777 on March 22, 2025, 11:50:44 AM
A very weird move, possibly done by some bored, degenerate hacker who has a lot of stolen crypto and doesn't know what to do with it.
Betting that much with such high leverage would be dumb even if someone had some insider info on the price being likely to go down (i.e. the same guy/group could have been dumping large amounts of btc at the same time on the same platform).

Anyhow, assuming the position was opened around the time this topic was started, it could've been a profitable bet, as the price went down to almost $81k 2 days later, before going up above the liquidation price.

ps. does anyone knows what platform is it?
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: taufik123 on March 22, 2025, 07:28:13 PM
Starting a topic on a whale selling a bitcoin wasn't necessary. Maybe he wanted cash in his bank we don't why he did it but it didn't deserve analysis in a dedicated topic. It's his bitcoin he sold it so what's the big deal ?
There is no real problem, but of course as a crypto activist I wonder why I went short on millions of dollars when the market is not as good as it is right now. Of course, it also makes the market trend worse.
It's their Bitcoin and their right to do anything, but of course there's a reason behind the sale and we just want to analyze it.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: SmartGold01 on March 22, 2025, 09:31:18 PM
This could be a calculated risk and he knows what he is doing, like what other said he might be an insider who knows more whales like him and they could be possibly manipulating the market to things smoothly for them, maybe to drill off other little traders since they aren't that knowledgeable about how they control the market.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Wiwo on March 22, 2025, 09:50:56 PM
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A whale shorted Bitcoin and already in a profit of a million plus with liquidation around $85K
What are the odds they know nothing
Ever since Trump administration
Huge risk whale like this have spranged up and always make profit in hundreds of millions.
The funny is this one with 40* leverage is among the lowest and 50* the most popular.


What are your take on this?
It's normal for whales to take a position in the market and to make quick gains, this is not the first time things like this have happened and sure several whales hit their liquidations so is not always a profit thing for them to happen.

In the end, all the whales are not different from the politicians and gamblers, everyone is risking what they have for what they can achieve so is all about the risks and this particular whale that you mentioned is just lucky this time.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: arabspaceship123 on March 23, 2025, 11:12:45 AM
I've wondered why the whale's sold short but it's his choice. He owns the bitcoin it's his right to do what he wants. I don't know how one sale's going to market trends worse it's like a small case. There's other important things going on.


There is no real problem, but of course as a crypto activist I wonder why I went short on millions of dollars when the market is not as good as it is right now. Of course, it also makes the market trend worse.
It's their Bitcoin and their right to do anything, but of course there's a reason behind the sale and we just want to analyze it.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: tequilla_sunset on March 24, 2025, 11:53:29 AM
This could be a calculated risk and he knows what he is doing, like what other said he might be an insider who knows more whales like him and they could be possibly manipulating the market to things smoothly for them, maybe to drill off other little traders since they aren't that knowledgeable about how they control the market.

He already got the profit, as far as I remember.

So yeah, he got the info going because if he didn't do what he did, he would be liquidated in no time.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: SmartGold01 on March 26, 2025, 08:11:41 PM
This could be a calculated risk and he knows what he is doing, like what other said he might be an insider who knows more whales like him and they could be possibly manipulating the market to things smoothly for them, maybe to drill off other little traders since they aren't that knowledgeable about how they control the market.

He already got the profit, as far as I remember.

So yeah, he got the info going because if he didn't do what he did, he would be liquidated in no time.
If that is the case then it's fine.
One thing about traders is that when the profits they are projecting from has been met they wouldn't want to exit the market the would keep trading to the level where they do lose all they had made from their initial trading.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Blaze on April 03, 2025, 12:17:25 AM
This could be a calculated risk and he knows what he is doing, like what other said he might be an insider who knows more whales like him and they could be possibly manipulating the market to things smoothly for them, maybe to drill off other little traders since they aren't that knowledgeable about how they control the market.

He already got the profit, as far as I remember.

So yeah, he got the info going because if he didn't do what he did, he would be liquidated in no time.
If that is the case then it's fine.
One thing about traders is that when the profits they are projecting from has been met they wouldn't want to exit the market the would keep trading to the level where they do lose all they had made from their initial trading.
Sometimes the market situation requires waiting for some time in one position, especially if everything is going great. Arrogance that arises from early profit making can be among the causes that make the individual reinvest without thinking of other outcomes that may be possible. It is the desire to get more that makes someone to stay longer than he or she had planned; but at times it does not work as planned. Such a situation belongs to the flow of trading where an individual is guided by emotions and expectations. The things that look profitable at the start of some moment can alter in the blink of an eye and when that happens, it goes the other way and cannot be stopped.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: SmartGold01 on April 03, 2025, 12:59:02 AM
This could be a calculated risk and he knows what he is doing, like what other said he might be an insider who knows more whales like him and they could be possibly manipulating the market to things smoothly for them, maybe to drill off other little traders since they aren't that knowledgeable about how they control the market.

He already got the profit, as far as I remember.

So yeah, he got the info going because if he didn't do what he did, he would be liquidated in no time.
If that is the case then it's fine.
One thing about traders is that when the profits they are projecting from has been met they wouldn't want to exit the market the would keep trading to the level where they do lose all they had made from their initial trading.
Sometimes the market situation requires waiting for some time in one position, especially if everything is going great. Arrogance that arises from early profit making can be among the causes that make the individual reinvest without thinking of other outcomes that may be possible. It is the desire to get more that makes someone to stay longer than he or she had planned; but at times it does not work as planned. Such a situation belongs to the flow of trading where an individual is guided by emotions and expectations. The things that look profitable at the start of some moment can alter in the blink of an eye and when that happens, it goes the other way and cannot be stopped.
It's not always advisable to reinvest after making profits because they can't truly understand what the market holds back and immediately the investment is made the market might retraced without the investor knowing, this could make s/he to start to panicking because he didn't follow up with much analysis to know what would happened the next moment.
It's true that when trading we should always understand the market direction before rushing to enter trade otherwise it might ends up with regret, and wait for a perfect entry is much more better than losing trade on a consistent basis.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: arabspaceship123 on April 03, 2025, 10:55:23 AM
It makes sense to ask why ppl sell when market conditions aren't high but it's their decision. They own their btc's so they'll do what they like we don't know why they've taken decisions.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: dave_strider on April 03, 2025, 02:55:32 PM
^ Shaky hands or a need to be fulfilled, usually.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: doc on April 03, 2025, 03:34:17 PM

I am sure this "whale" of a trader has the command of the market and is taking a good speculative move that can significantly boost his wealth. Yes, there can be some form of luck in this as there really is in all things we do but I am sure that with that huge millions in his hands he is tuning in with market developments and is using his connections to feel the market and where it is going. However, it should be  pointed out that this is just another speculation and the guy is taking the risk involved...in other words there is no guarantee that the market will react according to what he intends to happen as many whales had been liquidated in the past but if the guy is right then he would be smiling with a lot of laughter to the bank of Dave.
whales will always play their role in the crypto market by manipulating to raise or lower prices, that's what we've been observing. And not only in crypto in the stock market this also happens.
As a small trader we can see and follow the trend even though some say try to fight the ren but I think it's difficult.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Faisal2202 on April 03, 2025, 06:03:14 PM
A whale shorted Bitcoin and already in a profit of a million plus with liquidation around $85K
What are the odds they know nothing
Ever since Trump administration
Huge risk whale like this have spranged up and always make profit in hundreds of millions.
The funny is this one with 40* leverage is among the lowest and 50* the most popular.

What are your take on this?
I don't know about this one as if it's legit or not, but I saw one trade of a whale he/she was also shorting, and the amount was big, the profit was also in millions, but that whale closed the trade with huge profit a few days or maybe a week ago. Well, we know there are more than one whale doing long and short trades.

What I think about them! I just think we should keep an eye on their trades because if they are playing with millions, then they must have higher level of analysis of the market, and they must be 100% confident than us in that trade. As small fishes, we can depend on them and follow their trades, but this has its own risks.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Asiska02 on April 03, 2025, 11:37:09 PM
It's not always advisable to reinvest after making profits because they can't truly understand what the market holds back and immediately the investment is made the market might retraced without the investor knowing, this could make s/he to start to panicking because he didn't follow up with much analysis to know what would happened the next moment.
It's true that when trading we should always understand the market direction before rushing to enter trade otherwise it might ends up with regret, and wait for a perfect entry is much more better than losing trade on a consistent basis.

When there is a target you are aiming for, stick to it and don’t try to play smart by trying to reinvest in the market and take some trades again. The market is all based on probabilities, if the first one goes well, there is no such guarantee that you’ll get a second and third one in your favour. The ultimate goal of this is to continue to stick to your plans and not be too greedy. Alright, been greedy helps to achieve more if the market continues to go in your favour but as an upcoming trader, you have no concern with that and sticking to your place is the best for you only if you know to avoid further losses due to greed.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: Zed0X on April 03, 2025, 11:57:20 PM
It makes sense to ask why ppl sell when market conditions aren't high but it's their decision. They own their btc's so they'll do what they like we don't know why they've taken decisions.
We're talking about retail traders here and they usually do not care about the market conditions. They try to make profit if it goes up or if it goes down. The example in the OP looks like a quick trade that earned that person a million. He's probably good at it and with a lot of luck as well.
Title: Re: A whale just shorted Bitcoin
Post by: omori on April 04, 2025, 08:19:10 AM

We're talking about retail traders here and they usually do not care about the market conditions. They try to make profit if it goes up or if it goes down. The example in the OP looks like a quick trade that earned that person a million. He's probably good at it and with a lot of luck as well.

..Or he just had the right insider info.

But your version of the situation is viable too.