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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency Trading => Cryptocurrency Price Speculations => Topic started by: philipma1957 on March 18, 2025, 04:37:23 PM
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I went with a simple no it will never top 5k.
As Its done. Bye Bye Mr V.
oh he still owes me 2 coins.
Yeah I am very anti ETH
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Maybe now Eth will not reach 5k but in the next cycle it's very possible. Alt season is not yet happening so there's a chance to hit that price but seeing the current price now I don't there is a high probability. However, in alt season unexpected things can happen. The things we are never thought might happen, this time we can see a very big explosion of the prices of many altcoins. But the question now, when it will be happened? Will it going to happen in this cycle?
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Maybe now Eth will not reach 5k but in the next cycle it's very possible.
I second this.
oh he still owes me 2 coins.
Do you mean 2 ETH?
Yeah I am very anti ETH
Perhaps you should share your reservations with us, I am planning to hold some ETH :D
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I went with a simple no it will never top 5k.
Yeah I am very anti ETH
It will be never $5k this season, or it never reaches $5k forever? :D
I don't understand why you are anti ETH, sir? ETH is number 1 altcoin. ETH also has given many advantages for us. A lot of crypto projects used Ethereum network. It has a big contribution to crypto ecosystem. Why we don't try to keep positive about ETH future? Even it may increase slowly, we are not a must to be anti ETH.
I vote ETH will rise :D
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WHAT does eth do that ETC can't do?
stake vs mining.
and if you believe eth is better than etc
then why is it better than solana and bnb
Mr v broke Mac OS wallets when the claw back and reset of the block chains down I spent over a hundred hours trying to free my unsynchable eth wallet.
2 eth coins were lost due to his manipulation of the blockchain.
he never replied to me when spoken about it and that was when they were under 100 bucks
So I do not think much of eth and feel sorry for those that think the coin will recover. btw if it goes to 5k in 2029 the ath was 4.9k in 2021
so much like the dollar and a bond it would still be losing to inflation.
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I'm the one that voted for "Maybe" because TBH, I'm having a bit of skepticism about it already.
I know that Ethereum is one of the coins that I considered as an established one and a good coin to hold for long term, but what happened in the past few months made me think if there will be a chance that Ethereum will go up or investors will rather put their money into other altcoins like SOL, or XRP, etc. Ethereum dumped really hard, and when it needs to go up, it doesn't go up as high as other tokens are. Look at it right now and it even struggles to reach $2,000.
With all of this, I don't know if Ethereum will ever reach $5,000 again. I'm not an anti-ETH, but... I wish Vitalik will surprise me. ;D ;D
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I'm the one that voted for "Maybe" because TBH, I'm having a bit of skepticism about it already.
I know that Ethereum is one of the coins that I considered as an established one and a good coin to hold for long term, but what happened in the past few months made me think if there will be a chance that Ethereum will go up or investors will rather put their money into other altcoins like SOL, or XRP, etc. Ethereum dumped really hard, and when it needs to go up, it doesn't go up as high as other tokens are. Look at it right now and it even struggles to reach $2,000.
With all of this, I don't know if Ethereum will ever reach $5,000 again. I'm not an anti-ETH, but... I wish Vitalik will surprise me. ;D ;D
Hey I had 100,000 in gpus mining it.
I knew a lot of miners with hundreds or cards even a few guys wIth thousands of cards
Ending pow was a death blow to the 5000k number as the coin is much more of bond that a rare asset.
I would give Mr v his due m if he said fuck the ice caps we are going back,to mining with a new hard core asic resistance algorithm.
If Mr v had real balls he could stay a melt the ice cap movement.
To me it's the only way eth will,go up to and past 5k
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Yeah I am very anti ETH
ETH is done already. When it's moved from POW to POS, I had a belief that probably this is the ending of a good era. They say that they ar making it faster and affordable. But the truth is, they are looting money from the community. They are minting unlimited ETH moving them to private anonymous wallets, and dumping them on the market. People still believe that the ETH foundation is not selling ETH anymore. You never know the truth. I cannot believe a token that does not have proof of work and does not have any supply limit. It's whale version of Terra Luna scam.
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My answer maybe yes or no
Current market price with bitcoin keep stable looks difficult make Ethereum break to higher price until reach $5k after crashing down under $2k and today have good recovery by raising up more than 7%. No doubt with possibility and Ethereum potential will break to $5k but its take many aspect from bitcoin keep stable raise to higher price and other side not any bad news happing for Ethereum coins such as hacked last month ago.
Latest ATH for Ethereum when breaking above $4k, its not too gap for raising up $5k but need moment and waiting more longer time for Ethereum break again.
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Ethereum is considered by many to be second only to Bitcoin (I believe it has lost that position but oh well)
It has been revolving around $3K for some years now
And it's inability to break previous ATH when Bitcoin did
Shows are weak it is and the level of influence V has.
Crossing $5K with the way it is? No more competitors are spranging up
But if there are better changes maybe.
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Ethereum is considered by many to be second only to Bitcoin (I believe it has lost that position but oh well)
It has been revolving around $3K for some years now
And it's inability to break previous ATH when Bitcoin did
Shows are weak it is and the level of influence V has.
Crossing $5K with the way it is? No more competitors are spranging up
But if there are better changes maybe.
It is pretty much doable. I suppose Trump and Putin could boost but they could be burned bigly.
To be frank pos is so fucking diluted with over 10,000 coins I am not sure about most pos coins especially eth
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WHAT does eth do that ETC can't do?
stake vs mining.
ETC is vulnerable to 51% attack due to low hashrate
That's the only flaw I can see. But on utility they are both same just different consensus.
then why is it better than solana and bnb
solana is unreliable with their power outage not to mention centralize also
But it's cheaper and faster than Ethereum
While bnb is like the playground of binance.
The thing is Ethereum is enjoying the advantage of more community
People are starting to see the strength of performance solana and binance have over Ethereum.
It's funny how Ethereum would still argue in been decentralized with an head like V.
They are minting unlimited ETH moving them to private anonymous wallets, and dumping them on the market. People still believe that the ETH foundation is not selling ETH anymore. You never know the truth.
The worse thing about Ethereum is V.
A crook at least Trump doesn't hide the fact that he cares about the money.
Rather than been appreciating like POW coins , Ethereum is a depreciating asset because of it's unlimited supply like Fiat
So rather than rising, it could fall slowly and V would maybe create a fork and continue the scam
Say Ethereum 3.0
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I went with a simple no it will never top 5k.
As Its done. Bye Bye Mr V.
oh he still owes me 2 coins.
Yeah I am very anti ETH
Well I can't say because later is the mother coin after Bitcoin being the father coin so whatever that react to Bitcoin or happened to Bitcoin will surely reflect to ethereum, ethereum is another major key player on the crypto space after Bitcoin and of course BNB which has also gained legs by backing up ethereum. Whenever BTC create a new ATH it would also reflect back to ethereum so for sure Ethereum would rise again.
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WHAT does eth do that ETC can't do?
stake vs mining.
ETC is vulnerable to 51% attack due to low hashrate
That's the only flaw I can see. But on utility they are both same just different consensus.
then why is it better than solana and bnb
solana is unreliable with their power outage not to mention centralize also
But it's cheaper and faster than Ethereum
While bnb is like the playground of binance.
The thing is Ethereum is enjoying the advantage of more community
People are starting to see the strength of performance solana and binance have over Ethereum.
It's funny how Ethereum would still argue in been decentralized with an head like V.
They are minting unlimited ETH moving them to private anonymous wallets, and dumping them on the market. People still believe that the ETH foundation is not selling ETH anymore. You never know the truth.
The worse thing about Ethereum is V.
A crook at least Trump doesn't hide the fact that he cares about the money.
Rather than been appreciating like POW coins , Ethereum is a depreciating asset because of it's unlimited supply like Fiat
So rather than rising, it could fall slowly and V would maybe create a fork and continue the scam
Say Ethereum 3.0
Yep and the exact amount of coins growth is not traceable.
Ie unlike doge
Doge mines x coins per year so
Year 1 = x
Year 2 = 2x
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Year 5 = 5x
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Year 10 = 10x total cap of coins
Year 11 = 11x total cap of coins
The percent of growth is always smaller
Year 100 = 100x
Year 101= 101x only 1 percent growth or inflation rate.mway better than cash.
Eths issue is staking pays 3-10% depending where you stake
The second issue is no one knows if 99% of all eth is staked or if only 50% of all eth is staked.
So no one knows the yearly growth rate of the coin.
Pretend 99% of all eth is staked at 10% rate with 10 years and compounding at 10%
Eth would grow huge. About 2.56 the coin every 10 years
And if 50% of eth was staked at 3% for 10 years the growth would be about 12.5%
So the eth growth via staking varies from
1 coin to 1.125 on low end
1 coin to 2.56 on high end
Right now the network has 120 million coins
But depending on what stake rate you get and how many people decide to stake the network
Could do
The following in the next 10 years
120x1.125= 135 million coins on low end
120x2.56 = 307 million coins on high end
Not a good way to invest as the uncertainty factor i show over next 10 years is not acceptable.
The cap will grow at an unknowable rate =?really fucking bad.
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Yep and the exact amount of coins growth is not traceable.
Ie unlike doge
Doge mines x coins per year so
Year 1 = x
Year 2 = 2x
.
.
.
Year 5 = 5x
.
.
.
.
Year 10 = 10x total cap of coins
Year 11 = 11x total cap of coins
The percent of growth is always smaller
Year 100 = 100x
Year 101= 101x only 1 percent growth or inflation rate.mway better than cash.
Eths issue is staking pays 3-10% depending where you stake
The second issue is no one knows if 99% of all eth is staked or if only 50% of all eth is staked.
So no one knows the yearly growth rate of the coin.
Pretend 99% of all eth is staked at 10% rate with 10 years and compounding at 10%
Eth would grow huge. About 2.56 the coin every 10 years
And if 50% of eth was staked at 3% for 10 years the growth would be about 12.5%
So the eth growth via staking varies from
1 coin to 1.125 on low end
1 coin to 2.56 on high end
Right now the network has 120 million coins
But depending on what stake rate you get and how many people decide to stake the network
Could do
The following in the next 10 years
120x1.125= 135 million coins on low end
120x2.56 = 307 million coins on high end
Not a good way to invest as the uncertainty factor i show over next 10 years is not acceptable.
The cap will grow at an unknowable rate =?really fucking bad.
V is aware of all this
But getting richer beats creating a revolution in his eyes.
I remember a time some economist were nominating him for a Nobel Prize .
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Almost everyone thought that the switch from POW to POS would make ETH skyrocket in price and that we miners would just dump the mined ETH
And that's not what happened
At least in my opinion, miners held on to a lot of ETH and that helped the price, so much so that ETH's ATH was in 2021 when it was still POW
I saw miners as a strong community for ETH and all that has been lost
Of course there are other explanations, but ETH only weakened after the POS
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Almost everyone thought that the switch from POW to POS would make ETH skyrocket in price and that we miners would just dump the mined ETH
And that's not what happened
At least in my opinion, miners held on to a lot of ETH and that helped the price, so much so that ETH's ATH was in 2021 when it was still POW
I saw miners as a strong community for ETH and all that has been lost
Of course there are other explanations, but ETH only weakened after the POS
Yep it made itself undistinguished from other coins.
Solana clones and even if the network freezes coins do not get lost.
Fees on Solana are super cheap as compared to eth
and once again you can make a new SOL+ETH clone at 5 dollars do the same as Solana or Eth .
Eth growth can not be figured out. As I said eth stake interest varies too much and the amount of eth actually staked is hidden . If there are 120 million coins according to coin market cap how much are staked pulling interest right now?
No one knows. The coin is going to fold in of itself bigly one day. Imagine how much it drops if and when we go bear.
its trump won peak was about 4007 in Dec 2024 it is now 1992 the drop is about 50.5%
btc was as high as 109 and is now 86k the drop is about 21%
If BTC tanks to 50-60k eth will likely drop under 1300 maybe under 1000
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The worse thing about Ethereum is V.
A crook at least Trump doesn't hide the fact that he cares about the money.
Rather than been appreciating like POW coins , Ethereum is a depreciating asset because of it's unlimited supply like Fiat
So rather than rising, it could fall slowly and V would maybe create a fork and continue the scam
Say Ethereum 3.0
LOL, yeah. But that will be too late for most of the ETH holders. They will realize this too late. One of my local forum members liquidated his vault, which was staked somewhere, I guess. I don't know how it works, but I a lot of people are started to realize that ETH is slowly dying. If there is no benefit for users for holding ETH, why would people hold it? Just to get some commissions? No, we don't need commissions. This MF sucks. ETH is a bigger version of the Terra Luna scam.
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If BTC tanks to 50-60k eth will likely drop under 1300 maybe under 1000
I forgot to comment, I voted for Maybe
Even though I'm pessimistic about ETH, I know there are chances of a pump at some point
If BTC falls to 60k you can be sure that ETH will plummet even more and lose the 1k USD :P :P
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If BTC tanks to 50-60k eth will likely drop under 1300 maybe under 1000
I forgot to comment, I voted for Maybe
Even though I'm pessimistic about ETH, I know there are chances of a pump at some point
If BTC falls to 60k you can be sure that ETH will plummet even more and lose the 1k USD :P :P
I left eth in fall of 2022 with a lot of gpus that lost a ton of value.
So between the lost 2 eth coins and the switch over to POS I simply left the coin.
Thank goodness I did.
I do take if for payment and swap it to btc as fast as I can. but I am done with eth.
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I honestly don't understand what's the appeal of Ethereum nowadays. Sure, when it was launched, it was a truly innovative and game-changing project, but, unlike Bitcoin, its value lies mostly with its usage, so now, when we have other, similar projects that have the same (or better) functionality but are faster and much cheaper, what's the case for Ethereum? Do the devs have any major improvements in the roadmap to make it more competitive? Or is it all just based on brand value?
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I went with a simple no it will never top 5k.
As Its done. Bye Bye Mr V.
oh he still owes me 2 coins.
Yeah I am very anti ETH
Well I can't say because later is the mother coin after Bitcoin being the father coin so whatever that react to Bitcoin or happened to Bitcoin will surely reflect to ethereum, ethereum is another major key player on the crypto space after Bitcoin and of course BNB which has also gained legs by backing up ethereum. Whenever BTC create a new ATH it would also reflect back to ethereum so for sure Ethereum would rise again.
At this moment, Ethereum is half the predictions and sure arriving at that $5k ATH price is going to take a fortune to achieve that price, although it is not as if that price won't happen it will but sure not anytime soon, I am sure that such price predictions where based on the case all-time high price wave and such will not be repeating itself anytime soon.
We should all be prepared for some long walk down the line because it will take some time to see anything near the last all-time high before we talk of making the $5k benchmark.
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I went with a simple no it will never top 5k.
Well, with the supply of ETH I also agree with you that it's not going to reach $5k this cycle, but when ti comes to attention and demand then still it's on top when it comes to alt coins and that's why I think there's chance that it might somehow reach $5k value in this cycle if somehow Bitcoin also reaches $150k or $200k.
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I voted for Yes Eth will rise again.
My reasoning is simple: if we will have a altcoin bull run at the end of the year, then obviously ETH will be one of the biggest gainer for it. Otherwise if we didn't, the market will be in total disarray as this will be the first time that we will not see a altcoin bull run and investors doesn't want to see that. In short, the cycle should continue without disruption.
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I honestly don't understand what's the appeal of Ethereum nowadays. Sure, when it was launched, it was a truly innovative and game-changing project, but, unlike Bitcoin, its value lies mostly with its usage, so now, when we have other, similar projects that have the same (or better) functionality but are faster and much cheaper, what's the case for Ethereum? Do the devs have any major improvements in the roadmap to make it more competitive? Or is it all just based on brand value?
Although I was optimistic about Ether, my confidence is waning over time. Especially in this bull run, even though Bitcoin has crossed 100k, there is no movement about Ether. After the last bull run, it was predicted that if Bitcoin crosses 100k, the price of Ether has a possibility of going to 25k, but now it seems that the price of Ether is not 25k but 5k is a big challenge. If this situation continues without any new development, the price of Ether may reach the bottom.
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I honestly don't understand what's the appeal of Ethereum nowadays. Sure, when it was launched, it was a truly innovative and game-changing project, but, unlike Bitcoin, its value lies mostly with its usage, so now, when we have other, similar projects that have the same (or better) functionality but are faster and much cheaper, what's the case for Ethereum? Do the devs have any major improvements in the roadmap to make it more competitive? Or is it all just based on brand value?
Although I was optimistic about Ether, my confidence is waning over time. Especially in this bull run, even though Bitcoin has crossed 100k, there is no movement about Ether. After the last bull run, it was predicted that if Bitcoin crosses 100k, the price of Ether has a possibility of going to 25k, but now it seems that the price of Ether is not 25k but 5k is a big challenge. If this situation continues without any new development, the price of Ether may reach the bottom.
for eth to go up 🆙 it needs a lot of rich big investors.
eth has next to zero appeal for a small player.
solana is simply easier to buy into.
but a rich guy know the original eth coins were premined at 25 cents a coin.
they also know orginal owners may be slowly dumping coins at huge profits.
you have 10,000 eth they earn 8% a year or 800 coins you simply sell the 800 get about 1.6 million in sales
and at 25 cents a coin those 10,000 pre coins cost 2500
this is the nut that is killing eth.
put up 2500 hodl
and earn 1.6 million a year from now on.
plus the original 10,000 coins sit.
eth should go down not up when you study the facts above.
worse than all I mentioned we have no idea how many are doing the above example.
30,000,000 coins were premined are 10 or 20 or 30 million doing what I said.
plus the newer coins.
so this scares off big money.
so case one small people should do solana
case two big people should run unless they are staked at under 200 or 300 a coin.
this really drags eth down.
the only reason it has not fully died is likely there are over 20 million premined coins staked.
but no books. so who knows
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I went with a simple no it will never top 5k.
As Its done. Bye Bye Mr V.
oh he still owes me 2 coins.
Yeah I am very anti ETH
Well I can't say because later is the mother coin after Bitcoin being the father coin so whatever that react to Bitcoin or happened to Bitcoin will surely reflect to ethereum, ethereum is another major key player on the crypto space after Bitcoin and of course BNB which has also gained legs by backing up ethereum. Whenever BTC create a new ATH it would also reflect back to ethereum so for sure Ethereum would rise again.
At this moment, Ethereum is half the predictions and sure arriving at that $5k ATH price is going to take a fortune to achieve that price, although it is not as if that price won't happen it will but sure not anytime soon, I am sure that such price predictions where based on the case all-time high price wave and such will not be repeating itself anytime soon.
We should all be prepared for some long walk down the line because it will take some time to see anything near the last all-time high before we talk of making the $5k benchmark.
That would be a lot bulk work for Ethereum sitting that close to 5k again in the near future, though that could likely be in the next bull run but already as we know this year we have entered first phase of Q2 and by ending of Q4 something striking might likely happened but then we can't still be sure of the market because they are all dependent of bitcoin how it reacts generally to that could surges over the altcoin. And like you said, 5k may seems impossible to be achieved currently.
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I voted for Yes Eth will rise again.
My reasoning is simple: if we will have a altcoin bull run at the end of the year, then obviously ETH will be one of the biggest gainer for it. Otherwise if we didn't, the market will be in total disarray as this will be the first time that we will not see a altcoin bull run and investors doesn't want to see that. In short, the cycle should continue without disruption.
Why dont ETH gained as BTC did after its previous ATH? Even some old altcoins managed to update past ATH. Couple it possibly mean that there was already a bull for altcoins, but ETH performed bad during it? Other idea - will there even be altcoin bull runs that we used to have in past? In theory, if US and Trump pushes BTC up (with their strategic crypto reserve idea), will market still be as much interested in altcoins? Or it will create another or wider gap between "there is BTC and the rest of crypto" ?
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I also voted against Ethereum reaching $5k. It's difficult for Ethereum, in its current state, to reach this number in the foreseeable future.
Unfortunately, Ethereum is suffering from many problems, and despite the numerous updates and significant improvements made to the network, especially fee reductions, it is still struggling. Therefore, I don't expect Ethereum to reach this number. It may reach $3k at the latest, at the peak of Bitcoin.
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for eth to go up 🆙 it needs a lot of rich big investors.
eth has next to zero appeal for a small player.
solana is simply easier to buy into.
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Exactly
An average user with perhaps 100 to 1000 USD would hardly choose the ETH network these days to start with
Or even with more money, it makes more sense to be on other cheaper networks like Solana
What's more, many more interesting services have appeared on Solana and the L2 layers than on the ETH mainnet itself
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I voted for Yes Eth will rise again.
My reasoning is simple: if we will have a altcoin bull run at the end of the year, then obviously ETH will be one of the biggest gainer for it. Otherwise if we didn't, the market will be in total disarray as this will be the first time that we will not see a altcoin bull run and investors doesn't want to see that. In short, the cycle should continue without disruption.
Why dont ETH gained as BTC did after its previous ATH? Even some old altcoins managed to update past ATH. Couple it possibly mean that there was already a bull for altcoins, but ETH performed bad during it? Other idea - will there even be altcoin bull runs that we used to have in past? In theory, if US and Trump pushes BTC up (with their strategic crypto reserve idea), will market still be as much interested in altcoins? Or it will create another or wider gap between "there is BTC and the rest of crypto" ?
Because institutions are focusing more on buying Bitcoin than Ethereum. Law of supply and Demand. :D :D
Aside from that one, I'll throw also the fact that altcoins are diluted in the past few months because of the meme coin craze around pump.fun. Instead of those money that are going to these established coins like Ethereum, it went to some useless and shitty meme coins hoping that investors will make a quick bucks on it. Imagine if those money had been poured into Ethereum and other top altcoins. We could've see a new ATH on ETH as well same with Bitcoin.
Well, it is what it is. ETH isn't bad as a project, but there's no liquidity around it hence, it didn't went up the same was as Bitcoin did.
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Currently, it seems as if Eth won't reach $5k; later, we can see it achieving such a price when the altcoins season comes.
It's hard to think that Eth won't cross its previous ATH in this upcoming bull run. I believe it will, it is a matter of time before we can see how far Eth can skyrocket in price.
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Market condition is now are in accumulation zone and ETH may be going to pump harder after BTC visit the new all time high in next few month. ETH is still not perform as BTC done in past 1 year so may be ETH can pump the hard to $10K soon.
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I really hope that ETH can really hit the $5k mark in the next altcoin season. Although the possibility is not that big, I set one of the Ethereum price targets at that number, not too much of a percentage because I'm afraid it won't reach that number. It's just a matter of how I can do it while checking the progress of Ethereum's price development during the altcoin season.
Currently, the price of ETH is around $1.8k.
OMG !!!! I just checked the market and I was very surprised that the price of ETH was at that rate, shit !!! I'm actually quite desperate, hmm, is it possible???
while that requires an increase of more than 100%.
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ETH could reach 5K but not this year, seeing your poll until 2029 I think when the poll is closed ETH could reach 5k, we don't know in the future with crypto, predictions for altcoin will definitely continue and one by one can reach their ATH even though in the 2025 session Altcoin did not experience any movement but ETH showed an increase yesterday so I think ETH 5k$ could happen but I don't know when.
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Currently, it seems as if Eth won't reach $5k; later, we can see it achieving such a price when the altcoins season comes.
It's hard to think that Eth won't cross its previous ATH in this upcoming bull run. I believe it will, it is a matter of time before we can see how far Eth can skyrocket in price.
It's obvious that Etherum is depreciating in price overtime. When bitcoin was at 109k, Etherum reached 4k but with the price of Etherum and that of Bitcoin currently, it's possible that if bitcoin reaches a new ATH, Etherum might not reach 4k.