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Title: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: DragonSlots on March 19, 2025, 05:27:44 PM
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I’m curious how online casinos ensure that players are actually over 18 years old. How do they verify this information? For gambling sites with a KYC process, they can easily check this detail, but what about casinos for 18 year olds that offer easy registration and withdrawals? How do they make sure players aren’t minors?
I know that With the rise of streamlined and quick registration processes, maintaining proper age verification can be challenging. Many casinos implement additional measures, such as geolocation tracking or random ID checks, to ensure compliance with age restrictions.

Are these measures enough to prevent underage gambling ::)
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: target on March 19, 2025, 06:01:28 PM

They don't ensure but its the honesty of the users that they trust. If they say they are above 18 when they register then that's it. But if they find out a user is actually below 18 then that user just violated their TOS.

But before they are going to check to find out whether a user has violated their terms, this user has to win big first and will try to withdraw and that's when the casino ask for KYC.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: Charles-Tim on March 19, 2025, 06:38:42 PM
They don't ensure but its the honesty of the users that they trust. If they say they are above 18 when they register then that's it. But if they find out a user is actually below 18 then that user just violated their TOS.

But before they are going to check to find out whether a user has violated their terms, this user has to win big first and will try to withdraw and that's when the casino ask for KYC.
How can the gambling site knows that any of their user is below 18 years of age? They can not know unless they verify the user. They can not know if they do not make KYC compulsory for all users.

This is one of the reasons you will see non-KYC gambling sites start to get their customers verified if they have become big gambling site to avoid regulatory issues.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: memehunter on March 19, 2025, 07:02:53 PM
Usually, there is a pop-up at the time of registration, and that's it. No casino, especially an online casino could be 100% sure about filtering minors. Even with KYC, how do you know they are not using their parent's information? but KYC helps a lot in reducing those numbers. The same question applies to social media platforms as well. IMHO it is social responsibilty not of a single institution.
     
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: Sim_card on March 19, 2025, 08:16:05 PM
Usually, there is a pop-up at the time of registration, and that's it. No casino, especially an online casino could be 100% sure about filtering minors. Even with KYC, how do you know they are not using their parent's information? but KYC helps a lot in reducing those numbers. The same question applies to social media platforms as well. IMHO it is social responsibilty not of a single institution.
   
I agree with you, that those underage teenagers can use their parents document to KYC, because you don't do any facial verification when registering. It's just that casino with KYC also use to for withdrawal and to know if they are gambling from a restricted region.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: Zed0X on March 19, 2025, 10:52:19 PM
Even online casinos that do not ask for KYC upfront knew they can't catch every user that violates the age rule. Strict implementation could hamper the growth of their user base that's why they have to come to a compromise. The verification is usually done if they suspect something is fishy with the user activities or if he/she withdraws a substantial amount.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: Rruchi man on March 19, 2025, 11:40:03 PM
Are these measures enough to prevent underage gambling ::)[/center]
Some casinos usually do not care if you are underage. They demand your age because the government requires them to do so mostly, so they will not go the extra mile to try to make sure that everyone gambling on their platform is of the correct age. The time they may show some concern is if you win a big amount of money, and maybe they are searching for a way not to pay you.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: bitterguy28 on March 20, 2025, 12:00:16 PM
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I’m curious how online casinos ensure that players are actually over 18 years old. How do they verify this information? For gambling sites with a KYC process, they can easily check this detail, but what about casinos for 18 year olds that offer easy registration and withdrawals? How do they make sure players aren’t minors?
I know that With the rise of streamlined and quick registration processes, maintaining proper age verification can be challenging. Many casinos implement additional measures, such as geolocation tracking or random ID checks, to ensure compliance with age restrictions.

Are these measures enough to prevent underage gambling ::)
without kyc there is not much that a casino can do to be honest the best they can do is to trust that the players are responsible enough to not violate their rules and conditions

if any underage is proven to be gambling, they will face serious consequences and they would hope that the risk of these consequences is enough to discourage and keep the children away from even attempting to play and as per preventing underage gambling, it should start with education in my opinion
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: electronicash on March 20, 2025, 07:58:16 PM
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I’m curious how online casinos ensure that players are actually over 18 years old. How do they verify this information? For gambling sites with a KYC process, they can easily check this detail, but what about casinos for 18 year olds that offer easy registration and withdrawals? How do they make sure players aren’t minors?
I know that With the rise of streamlined and quick registration processes, maintaining proper age verification can be challenging. Many casinos implement additional measures, such as geolocation tracking or random ID checks, to ensure compliance with age restrictions.

Are these measures enough to prevent underage gambling ::)
without kyc there is not much that a casino can do to be honest the best they can do is to trust that the players are responsible enough to not violate their rules and conditions

if any underage is proven to be gambling, they will face serious consequences and they would hope that the risk of these consequences is enough to discourage and keep the children away from even attempting to play and as per preventing underage gambling, it should start with education in my opinion

kids today already have phone where they can install casino apps that don't ask KYC which is why gambling is very common to teens. there are still casino today that don't as for kyc. the new casinos trying to promote themselves sometimes are not asking just so they can get more people on board to their casino. they are purposely not asking kyc.

if they are truly going to verify ages, they would kyc all users right after registration.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: Rubel007 on March 20, 2025, 08:06:42 PM

They don't ensure but its the honesty of the users that they trust. If they say they are above 18 when they register then that's it. But if they find out a user is actually below 18 then that user just violated their TOS.

But before they are going to check to find out whether a user has violated their terms, this user has to win big first and will try to withdraw and that's when the casino ask for KYC.
I think it is best if a gambler accepts the terms and conditions well from the beginning and then decides to bet on that site. Because if a gambler cannot withdraw his money after a win, then it is definitely a big loss for him. Because it is not possible to easily win big in gambling. But if you have good luck, it is possible. So if you do not want to miss a big win, it is definitely better to bet within the rules.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: pieppiep on March 21, 2025, 02:06:03 PM

They don't ensure but its the honesty of the users that they trust. If they say they are above 18 when they register then that's it. But if they find out a user is actually below 18 then that user just violated their TOS.

But before they are going to check to find out whether a user has violated their terms, this user has to win big first and will try to withdraw and that's when the casino ask for KYC.
I think it is best if a gambler accepts the terms and conditions well from the beginning and then decides to bet on that site. Because if a gambler cannot withdraw his money after a win, then it is definitely a big loss for him. Because it is not possible to easily win big in gambling. But if you have good luck, it is possible. So if you do not want to miss a big win, it is definitely better to bet within the rules.
It’s advisable for us to accept all conditions when approving something with a view of avoiding future issues. If these rules are understood from the beginning, the living of everything becomes more comfortable and such things are avoided. It means that nothing is insured a hundred percent but the chance of achieving something remains alive. It is good if luck comes, still we can turn it into profit, and if luck do not come, we do not have any problem as we can proceed without burden. Therefore the right step is now to adhere to the policies that have been made from the onset to ensure what has been achieved right is preserved.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: Findingnemo on March 21, 2025, 04:39:58 PM
No, it's never enough to be sure that whether the person is 18+ or not and that's what the internet is about because almost anything can be faked. But there's limitations to everything so casinos stick with their usual guidelines like ID verification but when someone decided to fake it then they have to face the consequences of it which includes losing the deposit, wins and any balance left with no questions asked.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: 0t3p0t on March 21, 2025, 06:18:16 PM
I think same with the crypto exchanges most of them require KYC for the assurance that they are in accordance with the regulation though I am not that sure if there really are penalized for this but I know they are playing safe as well but there are some that don't do like this that is why minors still manage to get in.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: SmartGold01 on March 21, 2025, 07:14:31 PM
For the casinos that are kyc free often ask kyc when there are big win or something they don't expect such as usual withdrawals and deposit and if they suspect any of these activities they easily restrict such account and asked for additional verification process to prove ownership. Yes, most casinos do find it difficulties to catch up with the underage gamblers because they don't request for kyc.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: Rubel007 on March 21, 2025, 10:49:21 PM
Are these measures enough to prevent underage gambling ::)[/center]
Some casinos usually do not care if you are underage. They demand your age because the government requires them to do so mostly, so they will not go the extra mile to try to make sure that everyone gambling on their platform is of the correct age. The time they may show some concern is if you win a big amount of money, and maybe they are searching for a way not to pay you.
Yes, usually gambling platforms do not give any importance to such issues. But what is said is that if there is a possibility of getting a big win, then even those small mistakes can become big. This is not the fault of the casino company, but it is the fault of those who know and accept such a situation. That is why gambling should be done with caution in advance. Otherwise, even trivial matters can create big problems.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: DYING_S0UL on March 22, 2025, 08:34:17 AM
Through KYC obviously, duh! ::)

If I say I'm president Donald Trump, would anyone believe me? Would anyone trust me based on my words? Of course not. It's the same with ensuring whether a person is a minor or adult. No one can ensure that in an online platform. You may say you are 18 or above, but there is no way to know that. And that's where KYC comes. A person may lie to register to certain platforms, violate their ToS but at the end of the day, they must the follow their policy when withdrawing their winnings. A policy where KYC is a mandatory thing.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: MUGNIA on March 22, 2025, 02:36:37 PM

They don't ensure but its the honesty of the users that they trust. If they say they are above 18 when they register then that's it. But if they find out a user is actually below 18 then that user just violated their TOS.

But before they are going to check to find out whether a user has violated their terms, this user has to win big first and will try to withdraw and that's when the casino ask for KYC.

If you only get a small win, usually the casino doesn't care about age limits, but if you get a big win, that's when the casino will find out the customer's age limit, usually underage people use a substitute bank platform to be able to make withdrawals.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: joniboini on March 22, 2025, 08:32:50 PM
A policy where KYC is a mandatory thing.
You made me recall a "no KYC casino" where one of its ToS is that users have to undergo KYC if they bet past a certain limit. I think it got changed a few times and the owner assured users that for low-volume withdrawal or betting they won't force any KYC, unless absolutely necessary (for things like multi-account abuse, et). It sounds nice at first glance but users have no control and can't verify whether the accusation is justifiable or just a way for them to withhold withdrawal.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: Cryptsafe on March 22, 2025, 08:51:13 PM
Casino's can never be able to filter or detect under age registered members hence their requirements includes KYC so as to be on the safe side if there is any issues along the lines. We know very well that the government frowns at such and the casino too would take measures to protect their interest when issues of such nature emanates.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: bitbit97 on March 23, 2025, 08:50:07 PM
I think online casinos are not very interested in trying to figure out their clients age, as there is not mechanism they could use to get true information. If they force to pass kyc during registration, they will close their business pretty much soon. Also no one will be surprised and confused to see if windows with «Are you 18? YES/NO buttons» pop-up. Even if a person clicks on NO and page tab closes, he will re-enter and choose YES next time.

In theory, casino could cooperate with banks and get list of card numbers or algorithm of how they are issues. Underaged do get bank cards, and if they try to deposit with them, at that moment they can be «caught». Bank cards have 16 numbers. Maybe one of the numbers might tell that the card was issued for underaged customer. That is just my assumption.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: Kemarit on March 25, 2025, 02:26:54 AM
Casino's can never be able to filter or detect under age registered members hence their requirements includes KYC so as to be on the safe side if there is any issues along the lines. We know very well that the government frowns at such and the casino too would take measures to protect their interest when issues of such nature emanates.

They can't, the only way to do it is thru verification, like KYC. And they will ask for everything just to verify that the other person is not below the age requirement. So it's really very hard for casinos, it's not that they are not doing their job, but maybe there will be instances that some underage can still play and pass. Casino will really need to do everything to check every gamblers, even if they say that they are above 18 years old. Monitoring is one, they can used even AI to detect specially those who want to bypass verification.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: bisdak40 on March 25, 2025, 05:46:07 AM
I’m curious how online casinos ensure that players are actually over 18 years old. How do they verify this information? For gambling sites with a KYC process, they can easily check this detail, but what about casinos for 18 year olds that offer easy registration and withdrawals? How do they make sure players aren’t minors?
I know that With the rise of streamlined and quick registration processes, maintaining proper age verification can be challenging. Many casinos implement additional measures, such as geolocation tracking or random ID checks, to ensure compliance with age restrictions.

I believe that KYC is the best verification process to ensure that users of gambling platforms are 18 years old and above. However, the downside of KYC is that many users avoid online casinos with this verification process due to the perceived hassle it creates.

Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: robelneo on March 26, 2025, 11:48:37 AM
There is no other way but to do KYC, KYC is to know the full details of their clients. If this client is the right people to use their platform, the platform is to blame if they do not ask for it and many of its players are minors.
Its hard to guess the age and the status of its client without asking for KYC, so KYC is the only way.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: Cryptsafe on March 27, 2025, 12:51:57 PM
Casino's can never be able to filter or detect under age registered members hence their requirements includes KYC so as to be on the safe side if there is any issues along the lines. We know very well that the government frowns at such and the casino too would take measures to protect their interest when issues of such nature emanates.

They can't, the only way to do it is thru verification, like KYC. And they will ask for everything just to verify that the other person is not below the age requirement. So it's really very hard for casinos, it's not that they are not doing their job, but maybe there will be instances that some underage can still play and pass. Casino will really need to do everything to check every gamblers, even if they say that they are above 18 years old. Monitoring is one, they can used even AI to detect specially those who want to bypass verification.

We are still on the same page; we know the government frowns at underage gambling, and the casinos know this and would do anything possible to fish out the underage gamblers from their platform so they do not have issues with the government. At first, they put it out there for gamblers to see the government's age limit for gambling, which is the first and the second is the kyc to make sure they are on the safe side of it all.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: ajiz138 on March 27, 2025, 02:13:48 PM
We are still on the same page; we know the government frowns at underage gambling, and the casinos know this and would do anything possible to fish out the underage gamblers from their platform so they do not have issues with the government. At first, they put it out there for gamblers to see the government's age limit for gambling, which is the first and the second is the kyc to make sure they are on the safe side of it all.
Without mandatory KYC, the underage gambling rule is just a rule on paper, or in other words they do it to avoid problems with the government as you said.

But when they change their internal rules by implementing KYC rules, then it becomes something that will allow underage children to not be able to play. But that also does not guarantee it actually, because we don't know the child's efforts to continue gambling.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: bitterguy28 on March 27, 2025, 03:00:16 PM
But when they change their internal rules by implementing KYC rules, then it becomes something that will allow underage children to not be able to play.
i do not think that there are a lot of casinos that easily change their rules regarding kyc because it will be quite complicated and even that is an understatement

if they did not have kyc before, their clients who used their services benefitting from the non kyc rules would now be forced to do kyc which would not be appreciated
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But that also does not guarantee it actually, because we don't know the child's efforts to continue gambling.
that is true especially kids nowadays are the ones who are the most tech savvy and they know so much methods to trick so many websites
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: bitbit97 on March 27, 2025, 04:23:39 PM
I think online casinos does not bother about gamblers age at all. That is the internet, everyone are used to giving and receiving false information. There is no use even trying to prevent gambling because how can authorities also check if underaged or an adult has gambled. And if something goes wrong during session or an issue appears, what could underaged gambler do? Try to sue the casino? The case will be lost in 1 minute in court, plus underaged parents will probably get a fine or a warning for bad parenting.

Casinos allow underaged to gamble, because they are not as experienced as adults in gambling, they will lose faster, and even if they win, with their small deposits, withdrawals not going to bankrupt casino. But if they win jackpot, KYC will save casino from paying.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on March 27, 2025, 06:13:32 PM
A reputable casino should from the first place not allow for gamblers underaged to register, so its something i except them to do right at the point of registration by asking for their age and anyone found under the category of being underaged, they should be prevented from gambling, once this is set and applicable for any one under the same category, they have then acted their won part and left for the gambler to be sincere about it and proof same.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: ajiz138 on March 27, 2025, 08:12:16 PM
But when they change their internal rules by implementing KYC rules, then it becomes something that will allow underage children to not be able to play.
i do not think that there are a lot of casinos that easily change their rules regarding kyc because it will be quite complicated and even that is an understatement

if they did not have kyc before, their clients who used their services benefitting from the non kyc rules would now be forced to do kyc which would not be appreciated
I think it can be done, as long as they don't change it right away. They can give a certain amount of time after they take the rule.

I think recently there have been many casinos that have implemented it, for example I mentioned stake which changed their rules at the beginning of this year by requiring it, after previously without KYC users could still make deposits, play and withdraw. However, they also don't just implement it, but they routinely provide information about KYC every day.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: Cryptsafe on March 28, 2025, 07:16:14 PM
We are still on the same page; we know the government frowns at underage gambling, and the casinos know this and would do anything possible to fish out the underage gamblers from their platform so they do not have issues with the government. At first, they put it out there for gamblers to see the government's age limit for gambling, which is the first and the second is the kyc to make sure they are on the safe side of it all.
Without mandatory KYC, the underage gambling rule is just a rule on paper, or in other words they do it to avoid problems with the government as you said.

But when they change their internal rules by implementing KYC rules, then it becomes something that will allow underage children to not be able to play. But that also does not guarantee it actually, because we don't know the child's efforts to continue gambling.

Normally, every casino wouldn't want to get entangled with the government as it relates to underage gambling because it is against the law, so every necessary step would be put in place to make sure all registered members are thoroughly checked so they do not make any mistake. But even then, they still can not guarantee that all registered members are above the age of 18, but since they have conducted a kyc on each account, it is assumed that all registered members are above the age of 18.
Title: Re: How can casinos for 18 year olds ensure that players truly respect the min age?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 11, 2025, 04:50:42 AM
I think it can be done, as long as they don't change it right away. They can give a certain amount of time after they take the rule.

I think recently there have been many casinos that have implemented it, for example I mentioned stake which changed their rules at the beginning of this year by requiring it, after previously without KYC users could still make deposits, play and withdraw. However, they also don't just implement it, but they routinely provide information about KYC every day.
Yes, in fact there is something that can be implemented in casinos without causing so much fuss, since everyone now Demands and it is mandatory to have KYC, because every time you are going to make a large Withdrawal, instead of Postponing it and making you have a bad time playing, what you should do is a small KYC as is done in some exchanges, including Binance , and that will not take more than 5 minutes to do and once that is verified then you can withdraw , which is what causes the most problems.