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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: Gposas on April 08, 2025, 04:40:00 PM
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During the early periods of me joining the Crypto world, I could recall there were alot of Presales I came across on Telegram and Twitter. Presale adverts was booming then, though I never really had the full knowledge on identifying scam projects.
I was just believing all these projects are real, until a fellow crypto lover who has been in the industry for years shared his experience with me. He made me understand that I don't just have to invest in any project presale I come across without making proper research.
Mind you, I don't even have any idea of going about making research on a project but I was already dreaming that if I had funds, I'll just pour them into 5 different presale projects and wait for the token launch. But luckily for me I had no funds.
I was advised to follow up with launchpool on Exchanges than investing in presales, but as a newbie my thoughts were highly focused on massive profit but sluggishly I joined few launchpools then and made little profits.
My mind was still on investing in presales even till now, but the fear of being scammed has not allowed me invest in any. I stopped following up news related to presales because of this advice.
So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
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I cant advise for going into presales offers any longer because most of the ones we have done in the past are not pleasing for making any profits, instead they are just taking advantage on us from what we have invested with them, if it were to be as before, when you invest on a presale, you will most likely be profitable in your investment because the market will always be profitable at it has been launched, many other investors will be coming in and the value increases as a result, but some will go opposite direction and fall after they are launched.
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So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
imo, I don't think it's healthy to participate in every presale. Before the market became filled with too many scam projects, the chances of getting your investment back was probably 50/50, but at this point, I don't even think it's upto 30/70. I advice you stick to something else, except you have the money to waste.
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So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
Lets say that this is indeed shit nowadays but cant be able to deny that these are the times or moments that you do find yourself that be able to purchase up a coin/token.
There are still those worthy projects on which to invest on but the rate of success is really that slim already because there are tons of projects that launches up and needing up that kind of funding.
Getting listed into exchangers wont really be able to have guarantee despite of those sales on which it might take time or wont be coming at all in terms of the time that it do have.
Therefore, it will be just that still depending on you whether you do continue out to invest into these times or will be trying out to accumulate when it gets listed and on a dumping state?
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So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
When investing, whether it's presales or aftersales, I always advise on the potential. You are in a comfortable position if you invest in a coin with a usecase and will likely stay in the market in the long term.
If you find a coin with potential in a presale, then it's good for you to invest. If you find it after months of listing, it's still good, but there is an advantage to investing in a presale, but it will always come down to potential.
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There are still launchpad you can trust that the project will be listed on the exchange where you can trade the tokens righter after whether the token pumps or dumps you will be able to get back your funds.
It be good to see if that era of presale be back. I would certainly be making careful investments and make sure to take profit when the price goes up. Sadly there are regulations already.
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During the early periods of me joining the Crypto world, I could recall there were alot of Presales I came across on Telegram and Twitter. Presale adverts was booming then, though I never really had the full knowledge on identifying scam projects.
I was just believing all these projects are real, until a fellow crypto lover who has been in the industry for years shared his experience with me. He made me understand that I don't just have to invest in any project presale I come across without making proper research.
Mind you, I don't even have any idea of going about making research on a project but I was already dreaming that if I had funds, I'll just pour them into 5 different presale projects and wait for the token launch. But luckily for me I had no funds.
I was advised to follow up with launchpool on Exchanges than investing in presales, but as a newbie my thoughts were highly focused on massive profit but sluggishly I joined few launchpools then and made little profits.
My mind was still on investing in presales even till now, but the fear of being scammed has not allowed me invest in any. I stopped following up news related to presales because of this advice.
So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
Every project has both opportunities and risks. As long as you can thoroughly research the project and have sufficient reasons to participate, presales are a great opportunity for you to buy tokens at a very low price before they are listed, traded, and increase in value. Conversely, if you only participate in presales based on emotion, your luck can run out at any time.
Your friend advice is very accurate: if you want to participate in a new project, IEOs on top CEXs are always safer because at least they are thoroughly vetted by the CEXs teams. A 1000% price increase may not be guaranteed, but at least you won't lose money to amateur scammers.
If you want more safety, buy tokens that have already been listed and have good liquidity, for example BTC, ETH, XRP, BNB, ADA, SOL. They will bring you peace of mind!
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It's best to avoid buying any token during the presale, as most of them are loss-making. I participated in several, and most of them didn't make any profits, and some even made losses.
Most of the tokens I followed during the presale ended up being listed at a price lower than the presale price, or they dropped sharply after listing. The last time I bought a token during the presale, I suffered a significant loss, so I never participated again.
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I have gone for three presales before and they taught me lesson about how ICOs are very risky. I remember one that I lost money so much on. I do not go for presale after that time. Many of them are dump and dump schemes. The developers will make good money from it but many investors will lose.
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The one I actually participated one certain time was the launchpad presale, for does who might not understand, is a presale that's done on the exchange by the owners to sell their tokens to people when they have not listed yet, though I participated for sometime but just as they said there must be always a little black dot on some of the things we did not believe will have a scam, so there was one I bought and they refuses to list there token after they sold out a lot of their tokens to people, so after that incident I stopped it, though it was a very long time.
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During the early periods of me joining the Crypto world, I could recall there were alot of Presales I came across on Telegram and Twitter. Presale adverts was booming then, though I never really had the full knowledge on identifying scam projects.
One thing you need to understand about the crypto ecosystem is that every single thing that exists from pre-sale to meme coins to Bitcoin and lots more are still in existence because some people profit from it else they wouldn't be around.
The difference is everyone cannot have same level of understanding or succeed equally hence gross balance in profits and losses generally is attained. Presales still work out but trust me you would need to do a lot of research to avoid scam tokens.
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Presales these days are not reliable to say as the profit is just little and has no much effect even the launch pad itself is no more as profitable as it used to be in the early beginning. After many lessons, from ICO and presales, I was very much careful about projects, and I do thorough research before I make any move in investing in a project at its early stage. Better still, if the project is of good value, I'll buy after it is listed on any reputable exchange and hold for 6 six months at most to see how far they can but to rush into buying because they are in presales, I don't do that anymore.
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I cant advise for going into presales offers any longer because most of the ones we have done in the past are not pleasing for making any profits, instead they are just taking advantage on us from what we have invested with them, if it were to be as before, when you invest on a presale, you will most likely be profitable in your investment because the market will always be profitable at it has been launched, many other investors will be coming in and the value increases as a result, but some will go opposite direction and fall after they are launched.
The situation is exactly the same as it was a few months before the pre-sale.
And I think participating in the pte-sale now would be even riskier because the market is going through a bad situation now. And the experience you had is not yours alone, I personally think most people have had similar experiences while participating in pre-sales.
I have seen people experience price drops of -60% to -100%+ after listing.
And finally, they are still bearing the loss while holding. So I will never going to suggest anyone to participate in pre-sale.
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I've put a few hundred dollars in some presales before and I don't even know if the product/token actually launched ;D It took like forever for the token generation that I got bored and left thinking it's going to be a goodbye to the money I put in there. It's just how it is in this wild crypto world. Do I still believe in them? I'll never join another one.
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Presales aren’t dead, they’re just more naked now
Back in 2020-2021, or even further 2017-2018, presales had a different risk-to-reward ratio. You didn’t need to be a genius, just early. But cycles change. Liquidity changes. Attention changes. Now the same belief system that once rewarded naive optimism has turned into a field where timing, access, and cold discernment are non-negotiables. It is funny that people still believe it worth. That myth still seduces people, especially those who are new and impatient
Your experience is textbook, and I don’t mean that in a condescending way. It’s how most people onboard into crypto: high emotion, low frameworks. It’s how systems exploit cognitive bias. Projects are engineered to sound visionary. But you're waiting for some certainty before acting, as if risk can be “solved”. It can’t. Risk is an instrument, not a warning. You use it. You shape it
That said, yes, launchpools are safer. Yes, they’re structured. But safe doesn’t mean scale. You’ll make “little profits” because the whole thing is diluted. Everyone gets a bite, so no one eats much
Presales can be profitable. But the structure today is clear:
Most of the alpha is private (deal flow, early allocations, OTC rounds)
Presales that are public and hyped are usually already priced in
If you’re getting in from Twitter ads, you’re late
So no, don’t "forget the chapter". Rewrite it. Learn tokenomics. Study vesting schedules. Follow VCs, not influencers. And internalize this: if your emotions are making the trade, you’ve already lost to someone who’s thinking in liquidity and lockups
You don’t need to avoid presales. You need to stop expecting presales to save you. Big difference
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If I'm not mistaken, gone are the days that presales are the thing in crypto, it was the trend though around 2019-2020. But now it's completely dead as the market evolved from presales to just chasing meme coins unfortunately.
So for those who are hunting presales in top tier niche, maybe you can find a couple, but then it's not a guarantee as investors really look for a quick money in the altcoin market and willing to go for riskier methods like investing in a meme coin and then get out once they got the profit, rinse and repeat.
And we haven't heard any presales project that really took off right now.
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Pre-sale is now a big threat for investors. Because earlier the success ratio of the project was very good but now most of the projects are scams so those who invest in pre-sale face losses most of the time.
A good profit can be made from an IDO of a trusted platform if one has a large fund. For example, a good profit can be made from Binance web3's IDO if one participates there with a large fund.
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Pre-sale is now a big threat for investors. Because earlier the success ratio of the project was very good but now most of the projects are scams so those who invest in pre-sale face losses most of the time.
A good profit can be made from an IDO of a trusted platform if one has a large fund. For example, a good profit can be made from Binance web3's IDO if one participates there with a large fund.
I honestly don't trust the pre-sales that are coming out so far, I would rather buy coins from exchanges that are in the top market than buying from presale's.
Then you'll have to wait until it's listed on the top exchanges, right?
Unlike when we buy proven altcoins that are already listed on well-known exchanges that have large daily volumes on exchange platforms like Cex and Dex, at least it's safer than pre-sales.
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Pre-sale is now a big threat for investors. Because earlier the success ratio of the project was very good but now most of the projects are scams so those who invest in pre-sale face losses most of the time.
A good profit can be made from an IDO of a trusted platform if one has a large fund. For example, a good profit can be made from Binance web3's IDO if one participates there with a large fund.
I honestly don't trust the pre-sales that are coming out so far, I would rather buy coins from exchanges that are in the top market than buying from presale's.
Then you'll have to wait until it's listed on the top exchanges, right?
Unlike when we buy proven altcoins that are already listed on well-known exchanges that have large daily volumes on exchange platforms like Cex and Dex, at least it's safer than pre-sales.
Buying pre-sale tokens if successful will get high profits but the risk of losing is high because not all projects will succeed, so many prefer coins that have been listed on the exchange. because it is safer, especially if they choose the latest coins, this is safer.
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Buying pre-sale tokens if successful will get high profits but the risk of losing is high because not all projects will succeed, so many prefer coins that have been listed on the exchange. because it is safer, especially if they choose the latest coins, this is safer.
Big risk, big reward, simple as that.
But today.. Nah, the market isn't good for such an activity.
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Why not? If you find a good project! Although not everyone wants to believe in crypto pre sale now but those who find new projects with experience do pre sale investments. Because pre sale investments have multiple attractive rewards, which is why people are still connected to pre sale since 2017. During the pre sale attractive tokens are priced at a lower price, which is considered a discount. Also, those who purchase tokens during the pre sale receive additional tokens as a bonus. Dedicated ICO/IEO platforms like ICO Drops and ICO Bench list and rate upcoming presales project. Also, you can find pre sale marketing ratings for new projects on the coindesk site.
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Why not? If you find a good project! Although not everyone wants to believe in crypto pre sale now but those who find new projects with experience do pre sale investments. Because pre sale investments have multiple attractive rewards, which is why people are still connected to pre sale since 2017. During the pre sale attractive tokens are priced at a lower price, which is considered a discount. Also, those who purchase tokens during the pre sale receive additional tokens as a bonus. Dedicated ICO/IEO platforms like ICO Drops and ICO Bench list and rate upcoming presales project. Also, you can find pre sale marketing ratings for new projects on the coindesk site.
Would you take a bite at a project on a current market?
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I was advised to follow up with launchpool on Exchanges than investing in presales, but as a newbie my thoughts were highly focused on massive profit but sluggishly I joined few launchpools then and made little profits.
My mind was still on investing in presales even till now, but the fear of being scammed has not allowed me invest in any. I stopped following up news related to presales because of this advice.
So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
For me, launchpools are even better than presales, but I don't join in presales at all because of the fact that I don't invest into new projects.
Launchpools are different because if you want to participate, you need to have either the native token of the exchange being staked, or USDT depending on what you have, and in exchange, they will pay you the tokens based on the number of tokens you staked. For presale, you directly buying the token and that has no certainty of it being a success or if it will have a value in the future.
Presales aren't profitable if you will ask me. I would rather invest my money into Bitcoin or any top altcoins out there rather than these new projects that has the highest chances of it being a scam or an abandoned one.
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If you have seen that many tokens are pre-selling before their launch. If you buy tokens based on the ICO price, then save it for the future and you will be able to profit. Some coins are still facing fraud. Which makes customers worry a lot. We have to pay attention to various media in these matters. For example, Twitter, Instagram, we have to keep an eye on these. So that investors do not risk losing their money.
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Why not? If you find a good project! Although not everyone wants to believe in crypto pre sale now but those who find new projects with experience do pre sale investments. Because pre sale investments have multiple attractive rewards, which is why people are still connected to pre sale since 2017. During the pre sale attractive tokens are priced at a lower price, which is considered a discount. Also, those who purchase tokens during the pre sale receive additional tokens as a bonus. Dedicated ICO/IEO platforms like ICO Drops and ICO Bench list and rate upcoming presales project. Also, you can find pre sale marketing ratings for new projects on the coindesk site.
Would you take a bite at a project on a current market?
In crypto we are always waiting for opportunities so if such an opportunity comes, we definitely want to take a bite. A few days ago I bought a coin called dropcoin from a pre sale that was associated with bonuses and discounts. But due to the current market conditions, the hype of the project quickly ended due to which it failed to make good profits. However, I have some other pre sales projects in my sights but most of my funds are now in bitcoin.
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Pre-sale is now a big threat for investors. Because earlier the success ratio of the project was very good but now most of the projects are scams so those who invest in pre-sale face losses most of the time.
A good profit can be made from an IDO of a trusted platform if one has a large fund. For example, a good profit can be made from Binance web3's IDO if one participates there with a large fund.
I honestly don't trust the pre-sales that are coming out so far, I would rather buy coins from exchanges that are in the top market than buying from presale's.
Then you'll have to wait until it's listed on the top exchanges, right?
Unlike when we buy proven altcoins that are already listed on well-known exchanges that have large daily volumes on exchange platforms like Cex and Dex, at least it's safer than pre-sales.
Yes you tell appropriate. Acctually presell is not profitable right now. Once upon a time it has good time. And investors profited huge. I am also attend some pre sell and most of them i was profited. But now a days maximum pre sell projects are scam mainly price scam. After listing within short time price down and down. So i think pre sell is not suitable for this time.
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Pre-sale is now a big threat for investors. Because earlier the success ratio of the project was very good but now most of the projects are scams so those who invest in pre-sale face losses most of the time.
A good profit can be made from an IDO of a trusted platform if one has a large fund. For example, a good profit can be made from Binance web3's IDO if one participates there with a large fund.
Obviously, investors are now afraid of presales because of the scams that have found their way into the system. It was at the beginning that presales were quite right, but not these days anymore because anyone getting themselves involved in presales is just doing more harm than good to themselves. If one can look into Launchpad as organized by exchange, one could be able to gain that confidence because the exchange can guarantee the safety of their investment from both parties, and they could make a good profit from the investment, but if otherwise, you are on your own.
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If you have seen that many tokens are pre-selling before their launch. If you buy tokens based on the ICO price, then save it for the future and you will be able to profit. Some coins are still facing fraud. Which makes customers worry a lot. We have to pay attention to various media in these matters. For example, Twitter, Instagram, we have to keep an eye on these. So that investors do not risk losing their money.
Buying coins/tokens in pre sale seems riskier for me. There are many of them that are never listed on the exchanges. The developers easily dissapear after they get enough money from investors who buy in the pre sale. That's why I prefer to buy when they coins/tokens have been listed in exchanges nowadays. We are no longer in ICO era, we can't predict easily about the future of crypto projects recently. There is no guarantee that the developers can be trustable although they are very active in the social media.
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So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
imo, I don't think it's healthy to participate in every presale. Before the market became filled with too many scam projects, the chances of getting your investment back was probably 50/50, but at this point, I don't even think it's upto 30/70. I advice you stick to something else, except you have the money to waste.
Most of the new projects are just such pulpit only scam projects exist this time, so presale is now a big scam, because before you see one legit presale, you will have seen 10 to 15 scams between them, this made the whole presale market a big mess.
I don't trust those projects any more since most of them never made it to an exchange the end at endless fake projects development stage without even listing the coin on an exchange.
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If you have seen that many tokens are pre-selling before their launch. If you buy tokens based on the ICO price, then save it for the future and you will be able to profit. Some coins are still facing fraud. Which makes customers worry a lot. We have to pay attention to various media in these matters. For example, Twitter, Instagram, we have to keep an eye on these. So that investors do not risk losing their money.
Buying coins/tokens in pre sale seems riskier for me. There are many of them that are never listed on the exchanges. The developers easily dissapear after they get enough money from investors who buy in the pre sale. That's why I prefer to buy when they coins/tokens have been listed in exchanges nowadays. We are no longer in ICO era, we can't predict easily about the future of crypto projects recently. There is no guarantee that the developers can be trustable although they are very active in the social media.
It makes a lot of sense, I do completely comprehend why you have reached to such conclusion. It can be said that many huge claims are made initially when a project is being developed but not all of them come accompanied with reciprocated responsibilities. Floating values also predict the emphasis on the motivations at the start of the project devoid of looking at how far they can sustain the project. You decide to be wise and do not give your trust easily to something without any proof of whether it is truly good or not. That is why the mere illusion of activity works as an effective way consciously or unconsciously to reassure, or to a greater extent, to compel potential buyers. So by taking a more measured step, you are avoiding getting carried away with your choice due to heightened emotional response. They are to me an indication that you still are not merely a slave of your enthusiasm but also a person who thinks reasonably.
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I don't think this is something that matters to me because the hype is no longer there for me, it would be better i ventured into a project that is already established and making wave than going into random projects to invest on their presale which i found it not funny enough because you can't really detects the intention of the project owner what they plans and how they wanna do it. You could invest on presale and ended up having worthless token at last.
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Presale profit depend on the success of the project, so it is so risky because when project is failed your capital will also get failed and you cannot get any profit at all,so i prefer investing on a coin that is already has a strong foundation with a good developer and already tradeable in the market so that you can sell anytime when you don't wanted to hold the coin.
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The hope of getting profit from a presale coin is based on the success of a project. The hope of getting profit here is very low, the risk of loss is high and it is very risky. Because if you invest in such a token, you can never sell it before the project is successful, you have to wait for it to be listed. So what I mean is if you invest in a coin, invest in a coin that you can sell immediately if you don't want to hold it.
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If you have seen that many tokens are pre-selling before their launch. If you buy tokens based on the ICO price, then save it for the future and you will be able to profit. Some coins are still facing fraud. Which makes customers worry a lot. We have to pay attention to various media in these matters. For example, Twitter, Instagram, we have to keep an eye on these. So that investors do not risk losing their money.
Buying coins/tokens in pre sale seems riskier for me. There are many of them that are never listed on the exchanges. The developers easily dissapear after they get enough money from investors who buy in the pre sale. That's why I prefer to buy when they coins/tokens have been listed in exchanges nowadays. We are no longer in ICO era, we can't predict easily about the future of crypto projects recently. There is no guarantee that the developers can be trustable although they are very active in the social media.
Actually you are right, in the current era, many token pre-sales are going on but there is no news of listing. There are many projects that can easily disappear by buying and selling tokens through token pre-sales. Such projects may not have the ability to come to the market. For which they steal the money of the common people and go away.
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Presale profit depend on the success of the project, so it is so risky because when project is failed your capital will also get failed and you cannot get any profit at all,so i prefer investing on a coin that is already has a strong foundation with a good developer and already tradeable in the market so that you can sell anytime when you don't wanted to hold the coin.
It's a high-risk endeavour, especially on our market that is going up and down due to the tariffs.
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I don't think this is something that matters to me because the hype is no longer there for me, it would be better i ventured into a project that is already established and making wave than going into random projects to invest on their presale
the thing is though you would want to be early in a project or even the earliest because that is how you will be able to maximize your profit but as others have said presales now have become almost worthless since too many projects end up not meeting their expectations and just failing by the end of it
which i found it not funny enough because you can't really detects the intention of the project owner what they plans and how they wanna do it. You could invest on presale and ended up having worthless token at last.
you can have assumptions or conclusions based on their white paper and what their team is saying but no one can know for certain how this project will end up like which makes it hard for the rest of us
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Presale profit depend on the success of the project, so it is so risky because when project is failed your capital will also get failed and you cannot get any profit at all,so i prefer investing on a coin that is already has a strong foundation with a good developer and already tradeable in the market so that you can sell anytime when you don't wanted to hold the coin.
It's a high-risk endeavour, especially on our market that is going up and down due to the tariffs.
In fact, during the up or down scheme you will get high risk from any coin. Because during this time the price of some coins drops completely and they cannot go up again, and many projects go down and scam. We want to be with risk in crypto because it will not be possible to get profit without risk. It is possible to make good profits from pre sale but in that case you always have to invest in the best projects. However, since there is currently no hype about pre sale so not everyone will be attracted to it.
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During the early periods of me joining the Crypto world, I could recall there were alot of Presales I came across on Telegram and Twitter. Presale adverts was booming then, though I never really had the full knowledge on identifying scam projects.
The difference is everyone cannot have same level of understanding or succeed equally hence gross balance in profits and losses generally is attained. Presales still work out but trust me you would need to do a lot of research to avoid scam tokens.
Your response sounds right, but if everyone can't get the same level of understanding and success now does it mean the presales then, all investors had the same level of understanding and success? Or it was not based on any measurement.
Because I know before fake/scam projects covered everywhere there was still a time when good projects were seen.
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Your response sounds right, but if everyone can't get the same level of understanding and success now does it mean the presales then, all investors had the same level of understanding and success? Or it was not based on any measurement.
Because I know before fake/scam projects covered everywhere there was still a time when good projects were seen.
Pre-sales are actually slightly more risky than even meme coin trading. Basically one of the biggest risk with pre sales is that you could end up wasting your money on trash that later on will never get launched and before they actually launched they seemed to have a lot of potential though they were just a scam.
I have seen many pre-sales back in the day that never got launched and the had so much hype that made many people invest in them.
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I don't think this is something that matters to me because the hype is no longer there for me, it would be better i ventured into a project that is already established and making wave than going into random projects to invest on their presale which i found it not funny enough because you can't really detects the intention of the project owner what they plans and how they wanna do it. You could invest on presale and ended up having worthless token at last.
You are right, project owners sometimes dictate what is to be done, and as an investor, you do not know what goes on in the team unless you have an insider who feeds you with information as the case may be. In some cases, the project might be on the brink of collapsing, but the team wouldn't say anything and just keep mute and do away with investors' funds.
This is why I advise newbies to only look into Bitcoin for a start so they can be sure of their investment and also learn from the market actions with Bitcoin before delving into other coins and tokens. This could help thembetter learn how the crypto market works and keep them sound for other investment if they decide to look outside of bitcoin investment.
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Your response sounds right, but if everyone can't get the same level of understanding and success now does it mean the presales then, all investors had the same level of understanding and success? Or it was not based on any measurement.
I don't think that's the case. Even in a limited market, the number of winners will always be limited, not to mention when presales got popular and everyone wanted to try the pie. It's not only about knowledge and research but also timing and opportunity. Let's say you bet on a new ETH but don't sell at the right timing, you might end with little to no profit at all.
I agree that presale is just another form of crowdfunding, so if the project delivers, you can still get something from it. The question is more about how to identify which project is worth investing in regardless of its investment method, IMO. Unfortunately, that's a difficult question to solve, especially if you don't have the capital to take risks at all. CMIIW.
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Pre-sales are actually slightly more risky than even meme coin trading. Basically one of the biggest risk with pre sales is that you could end up wasting your money on trash that later on will never get launched and before they actually launched they seemed to have a lot of potential though they were just a scam.
I have seen many pre-sales back in the day that never got launched and the had so much hype that made many people invest in them.
As always - you go big or go home. Such events and projects exist to play big and try to push themselves so high they will fly afterward through the market with no problems, but usually, that doesn't end well.
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As always - you go big or go home. Such events and projects exist to play big and try to push themselves so high they will fly afterward through the market with no problems, but usually, that doesn't end well.
I'm not against taking risks however that doesn't mean you should take risks without research or take blind risks in essence. Basically you have to put in time into understanding a particular ecosystem and that's one thing most people are not ready to do which in the end puts them in loss.
Smart risks matter since it wouldn't be a good move to pump all your liquidity into a project you are not even sure of the win probability and in the end lose in all.
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As always - you go big or go home. Such events and projects exist to play big and try to push themselves so high they will fly afterward through the market with no problems, but usually, that doesn't end well.
I'm not against taking risks however that doesn't mean you should take risks without research or take blind risks in essence. Basically you have to put in time into understanding a particular ecosystem and that's one thing most people are not ready to do which in the end puts them in loss.
Smart risks matter since it wouldn't be a good move to pump all your liquidity into a project you are not even sure of the win probability and in the end lose in all.
Taking risks without doing research, as you said, is something that is absolutely not necessary, but you do have to continue to do a good analysis before doing what we are going to do, because it can indeed cause losses to us if we do not do a good analysis.
we do have to be smart before doing anything you want to do so that weu do not experience losses later.
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I'm not against taking risks however that doesn't mean you should take risks without research or take blind risks in essence. Basically you have to put in time into understanding a particular ecosystem and that's one thing most people are not ready to do which in the end puts them in loss.
Smart risks matter since it wouldn't be a good move to pump all your liquidity into a project you are not even sure of the win probability and in the end lose in all.
That's why there is a catch in every project here and there - you do need to see through and understand which one is more risky, and which one - is a bit more stable, and so on.
It's the matter of experience being in the space and analyzing which interests you the most.
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So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
imo, I don't think it's healthy to participate in every presale. Before the market became filled with too many scam projects, the chances of getting your investment back was probably 50/50, but at this point, I don't even think it's upto 30/70. I advice you stick to something else, except you have the money to waste.
First of all, investing on presale these day is almost a waste of time and money, it is not even advicable to put your money in a hopeless project where developers will manage to launch the coin/token but will vanish away once the market dumps.
in addition, investing into many of these new start up projects this days does not guaranteed a refund, once you have invested, it becomes practically impossible to get a refund if the project failed or become an exit scams. In fact, even a genuine project hardly refund investors in whatever may happen to the project.
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I think there are still sensible and potential pre-sales if we are just being researching, that's why there are still others who are making a profit from pre-sales, though they will wait a while before it is listed but they are sure that their investments here will not be wasted.
But of course, you still need to be extra careful because I can't deny that most pre-sales are also scams by the developers who are doing this in the crypto space.
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First of all, investing on presale these day is almost a waste of time and money, it is not even advicable to put your money in a hopeless project where developers will manage to launch the coin/token but will vanish away once the market dumps.
in addition, investing into many of these new start up projects this days does not guaranteed a refund, once you have invested, it becomes practically impossible to get a refund if the project failed or become an exit scams. In fact, even a genuine project hardly refund investors in whatever may happen to the project.
To be honest, there are many risks in investing in anything related to cryptocurrencies and blockchain projects and it’s not rare that investors are let down by undesired outcome. Nevertheless, there are several factors that can minimise the above risks. First, therefore, it is essential to gathering as much information as one can about the project one plans to invest in as possible. This is why knowing who stands behind this concept, their idea, and a clear business plan will give a truer indication of the project’s future potential. Moreover, in the same field of investing, there is no certainty mark but this made diversification or investment to various projects the best approach to minimise large losses as a result of failing project. All the same, it is not all impossible to make a profit because the whole process can be carried out cautiously and deliberately.
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It's like looking for a hidden gem too, huh... no one thought that Bitcoin when it was still priced at $1 would be this big, even no one thought that Ethereum when it was first launched would be as big as it is now, everything started from doubt and no one could have expected it, but most of the new projects that have been launched recently are indeed a little more difficult to rely on because many of them do not come with a special use case... many fake developers compete to create memecoins, making it an unhealthy ecosystem... yes, many new projects now are not like new projects when the cryptocurrency was first launched... that's why many experts and even governments are starting to distrust presales related to coin sales...
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I think there are still sensible and potential pre-sales if we are just being researching, that's why there are still others who are making a profit from pre-sales, though they will wait a while before it is listed but they are sure that their investments here will not be wasted.
But of course, you still need to be extra careful because I can't deny that most pre-sales are also scams by the developers who are doing this in the crypto space.
Presales are like mine fields - you are either lucky to walk through so many risk factors and win big, or you explode in any of the circumstances that would shatter the situation in one move.
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So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
When investing, whether it's presales or aftersales, I always advise on the potential. You are in a comfortable position if you invest in a coin with a usecase and will likely stay in the market in the long term.
If you find a coin with potential in a presale, then it's good for you to invest. If you find it after months of listing, it's still good, but there is an advantage to investing in a presale, but it will always come down to potential.
- You're right mate, I also believe what others say that in this era it's very difficult to trust investing in pre-sales. As we know, it's still up to the discretion of individuals whether they invest, because whether we admit it or not, most people still invest because of the hype.
So if I were you, maybe instead of investing in pre-sales, I think it's better to invest in the listed cryptocurrencies that are on the top listed on the top exchanges rather than the coins that are on pre-sales. Just a thought.
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I think there are still sensible and potential pre-sales if we are just being researching, that's why there are still others who are making a profit from pre-sales, though they will wait a while before it is listed but they are sure that their investments here will not be wasted.
But of course, you still need to be extra careful because I can't deny that most pre-sales are also scams by the developers who are doing this in the crypto space.
It would be a waste of time to research for any potential presale project in my opinion. It still better to hold on till the token list before deciding on the investing in the project. I noticed recent projects are performing well in the market, so it’s better to buy after listing.
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It's like looking for a hidden gem too, huh... no one thought that Bitcoin when it was still priced at $1 would be this big, even no one thought that Ethereum when it was first launched would be as big as it is now, everything started from doubt and no one could have expected it, but most of the new projects that have been launched recently are indeed a little more difficult to rely on because many of them do not come with a special use case... many fake developers compete to create memecoins, making it an unhealthy ecosystem... yes, many new projects now are not like new projects when the cryptocurrency was first launched... that's why many experts and even governments are starting to distrust presales related to coin sales...
mang we all did not expect bitcoin at the beginning of its launch to be very cheap, but now it is getting more expensive. And many other coins like ethereum were also cheap at first and are getting more expensive now.
My bitcoin follows the price of bitcoin because I invest in bitcoin even though not from the beginning.
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It's like looking for a hidden gem too, huh... no one thought that Bitcoin when it was still priced at $1 would be this big, even no one thought that Ethereum when it was first launched would be as big as it is now, everything started from doubt and no one could have expected it, but most of the new projects that have been launched recently are indeed a little more difficult to rely on because many of them do not come with a special use case... many fake developers compete to create memecoins, making it an unhealthy ecosystem... yes, many new projects now are not like new projects when the cryptocurrency was first launched... that's why many experts and even governments are starting to distrust presales related to coin sales...
mang we all did not expect bitcoin at the beginning of its launch to be very cheap, but now it is getting more expensive. And many other coins like ethereum were also cheap at first and are getting more expensive now.
My bitcoin follows the price of bitcoin because I invest in bitcoin even though not from the beginning.
Bitcoin is the pioneer of all cryptocurrencies, and you are right that no one expected at the beginning of its launch where it could be up to now at a very high price and no one expected that to happen.
Almost all potential altcoins also experienced the same thing and, unexpectedly, would soar to now at a very high price.
My assumption is that maybe there were a few who followed bitcoin investments from the beginning, because there are indeed a few who predict something like this.
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I think there are still sensible and potential pre-sales if we are just being researching, that's why there are still others who are making a profit from pre-sales, though they will wait a while before it is listed but they are sure that their investments here will not be wasted.
But of course, you still need to be extra careful because I can't deny that most pre-sales are also scams by the developers who are doing this in the crypto space.
It would be a waste of time to research for any potential presale project in my opinion. It still better to hold on till the token list before deciding on the investing in the project. I noticed recent projects are performing well in the market, so it’s better to buy after listing.
I have been through tons of presales recently and ended up on having negative at the moment it do get listed on various exchangers .Somehow there are those who do make me some profits but the ration in between to those failed projects is much more higher than into those who do succeed out on which you can be able to tell that its not that worth. When it comes to researching then we can say that it is that not totally the pure thing on which you do need up to rely for you to decide on investing on a project. I have seen tons of those good potential projects when it comes to utility but ended up on having that dump price in the end of the day on which it did leave out that regret feeling on why i have investing into a particular project. This is why i do agree into the sentiment that it is much more better on investing into after listing phase when the market is on the bottom on which you can be to witness out most of the time.,
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It would be a waste of time to research for any potential presale project in my opinion. It still better to hold on till the token list before deciding on the investing in the project. I noticed recent projects are performing well in the market, so it’s better to buy after listing.
Here's the safest approach, because when a token gets listed on major CEXs, it has already passed the scrutiny of experts in this market. Tokenomics, idea, solution, team, ecosystem, trading volume... all get reviewed, and from there, investors can feel more secure about buying the token; at least it's likely not a scam project.
However, safety comes with lower opportunity. When the news of a listing on CEXs comes out, the token price has usually already surged, meaning investors won't be able to buy the token at the presale price anymore. Each investor has their own risk appetite to make their own decisions.
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I cant advise for going into presales offers any longer because most of the ones we have done in the past are not pleasing for making any profits, instead they are just taking advantage on us from what we have invested with them, if it were to be as before, when you invest on a presale, you will most likely be profitable in your investment because the market will always be profitable at it has been launched, many other investors will be coming in and the value increases as a result, but some will go opposite direction and fall after they are launched.
Actually, i think that your comment is also very appropriate in this time. So i am also agree with your best comment. Because we can not full depend on this presale. If we follow in before who was invest in this position, most of the crypto lovers will face losses from here. But we also saw some investors will be benefits from here. Because we know that cryptocurrency market always depending on up and down. So if we can understand in this situation, i believe that then it will be very prefer for us. So i think that crypto currency market knowledge is very important for benefits here.
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During the early periods of me joining the Crypto world, I could recall there were alot of Presales I came across on Telegram and Twitter. Presale adverts was booming then, though I never really had the full knowledge on identifying scam projects.
I was just believing all these projects are real, until a fellow crypto lover who has been in the industry for years shared his experience with me. He made me understand that I don't just have to invest in any project presale I come across without making proper research.
Mind you, I don't even have any idea of going about making research on a project but I was already dreaming that if I had funds, I'll just pour them into 5 different presale projects and wait for the token launch. But luckily for me I had no funds.
I was advised to follow up with launchpool on Exchanges than investing in presales, but as a newbie my thoughts were highly focused on massive profit but sluggishly I joined few launchpools then and made little profits.
My mind was still on investing in presales even till now, but the fear of being scammed has not allowed me invest in any. I stopped following up news related to presales because of this advice.
So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
Well for me I believe in presales , but one has to be very careful coz it's not every presale that is worth jumping into, some are all hype, with no real value behind them. I only consider it when there is a solid team behind it, a clear roadmap and real utility. Otherwise is simply just gambling.
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i see no need for pre-sale some times, cus really the actual listing price most times is just nearly thesame
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Even thought it depends from a project, I am scared of buying at presales. I have seen to many examples how early buyers, bounty hunters, developers and etc drop their token at early possible moment and kill the price. I have seen so many examples how it took months, quarters and years for price to recover, which makes presales useless, as regular trading or pump and dumps give better profit in a shorter time period. And it is hard to get in a “good” project presale. Often insiders get all the presale tokens or most tasty part of pie, making a presale as usual sale.
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Even thought it depends from a project, I am scared of buying at presales. I have seen to many examples how early buyers, bounty hunters, developers and etc drop their token at early possible moment and kill the price. I have seen so many examples how it took months, quarters and years for price to recover, which makes presales useless, as regular trading or pump and dumps give better profit in a shorter time period. And it is hard to get in a “good” project presale. Often insiders get all the presale tokens or most tasty part of pie, making a presale as usual sale.
You are correct and the reason being that there are numerous examples which show that pre sale is one tactic provided to early investors to get their gains and leave those who really invested money and waited for prices to level out for months. However, that strongly does not have to translate into no more pre sales at all. There are projects that can indeed be successful and have higher returns in the future. The key lies in selecting better and make a right assessment not on the immediate high valued based projects. to the individual Fairy tale could be true pre sales is not an opportunity, but rather a high risk if the person wants the project to succeed If a person is well informed about the organisation and he believes in the team and vision of the project then pre sales can also be an opportunity.
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- It probably depends on whether we ourselves did research on a project and we really saw potential because we also saw partner investors who were not bros who were also involved in the crypto space for several years, then the funds were raised quickly because of the large number of communities who also trusted to buy.
But this only happened to me once, and as some of our friends here say, when we invest, we should still invest what we can afford to lose and not expect too much.
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I have had several disappointing experience with pre-sale investment, with some not generating profits as expected. We all know how cryptocurrency can be unpredictable, with some projects experiencing price drop after launch. To me I think pre-sale is used to benefit early investors at the expense of late investors, leading to potential losses.
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Even thought it depends from a project, I am scared of buying at presales. I have seen to many examples how early buyers, bounty hunters, developers and etc drop their token at early possible moment and kill the price. I have seen so many examples how it took months, quarters and years for price to recover, which makes presales useless, as regular trading or pump and dumps give better profit in a shorter time period. And it is hard to get in a “good” project presale. Often insiders get all the presale tokens or most tasty part of pie, making a presale as usual sale.
I didn't have a good experience following the presale, this is what made me stop doing it because I have more confidence in the top coins that are already listed on the largest exchanges.
As you said the price can fall and it is difficult to go back up. And it takes a long time when the price falls when many people sell this coin at the beginning and I think the risk is too risky.
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My mind was still on investing in presales even till now, but the fear of being scammed has not allowed me invest in any. I stopped following up news related to presales because of this advice.
So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
Well, don't live under the fear, do something. I mean, the best way to face the fear is to do it, as I read Murphy's law, which I don't like, but to some extent it's right, it says, anything that can go wrong will go wrong So if you want to test presales, do your research, find some presales sites, search about the successful presales that occurred in the last 5 to 6 months, and find out why.
From why, I mean, get into the base of why it gave people huge profits, in airdrop hunting, I find many presales, launchpools, launchpads, I did not joined due to the loss in the market, but people did not stop, they found new opportunities and invested and made huge money, do the effort and see the results. It is not that difficult, BTW I had this presale invested in like 2022 if I am not wrong, and I am at loss right now but I only invested around $50 and if things went boom for this I could make $1k and yeah all this long I don't even come to remember about it, only when I saw the word pre-sale on any forum.
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I didn't have a good experience following the presale, this is what made me stop doing it because I have more confidence in the top coins that are already listed on the largest exchanges.
As you said the price can fall and it is difficult to go back up. And it takes a long time when the price falls when many people sell this coin at the beginning and I think the risk is too risky.
It makes perfect sense to avoid pre-sale investments and concentrate on top coins that are already listed, if you have very high uncertainty after the pre-sale. In most cases, by the time a coin is listed it becomes cheap due to mass selling by those investors who bought it cheap when it had little value. Coins on well established exchanges are more stable and trusted and as you can imagine will involve lesser risk than having to start going for new coins on such markets. It is quite logical to aim for safety in an adsorption that almost looks unpredictable, thus, your move seems quite reasonable from the viewpoint of risk management.
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I have had several disappointing experience with pre-sale investment, with some not generating profits as expected. We all know how cryptocurrency can be unpredictable, with some projects experiencing price drop after launch. To me I think pre-sale is used to benefit early investors at the expense of late investors, leading to potential losses.
Even the unsuspecting presale investors are sometimes not spared by the sudden market drop because only a small portion of their bought tokens are unlocked or distributed. When these things happen, there are always rumors that it's the founders dumping their tokens on everyone using a dummy wallet/address.
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Actually, it's the same as other programs like ICO and IDO in the past, it all depends on the project we buy. If it's good, then the price will likely increase many times when it's listed, and vice versa. So everything has a risk, and usually the high risk has a higher profit potential. So before entering the pre-sale, keep doing a good analysis.
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I have had several disappointing experience with pre-sale investment, with some not generating profits as expected. We all know how cryptocurrency can be unpredictable, with some projects experiencing price drop after launch. To me I think pre-sale is used to benefit early investors at the expense of late investors, leading to potential losses.
Pre sale investments are risky so those who have less experience with crypto may end up losing money if they invest in pre sale. You are right that some projects experience price drops after launch. Some projects scam directly after launch so many people do not want to take this pre sale risk. Moreover, after 2018 the promotion of many scam projects increased, due to which people gradually moved away from pre sale investments. People earn good profits from new trends in crypto, but the duration of all these trends is short. So the pre sale trend ended long ago, but there are some crypto experts who are making profits by investing in the pre sale market.
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I have had several disappointing experience with pre-sale investment, with some not generating profits as expected. We all know how cryptocurrency can be unpredictable, with some projects experiencing price drop after launch. To me I think pre-sale is used to benefit early investors at the expense of late investors, leading to potential losses.
Pre sale investments are risky so those who have less experience with crypto may end up losing money if they invest in pre sale. You are right that some projects experience price drops after launch. Some projects scam directly after launch so many people do not want to take this pre sale risk. Moreover, after 2018 the promotion of many scam projects increased, due to which people gradually moved away from pre sale investments. People earn good profits from new trends in crypto, but the duration of all these trends is short. So the pre sale trend ended long ago, but there are some crypto experts who are making profits by investing in the pre sale market.
If you are that wanting to join up on a presale just because you've seen the project is already that having the potential then it will be that up to your choice and just let those people do invest on what they do wanted to invest. Lets say that they have do their research and finding out that the project is that worth to invest on. Then its your call then it will be that up to you if you do made out some investment or not. Usually when doing up some investment on presales do have that needing to have some mix of luck when you do invest because what those projects looks good and having some potential is beaten up with those shit looking projects and thats why not all that good researched projects would be ended up successful but of course it will be that up to you on how you would be choosing up when dealing up with presales.
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It's best to avoid buying any token during the presale, as most of them are loss-making. I participated in several, and most of them didn't make any profits, and some even made losses.
Most of the tokens I followed during the presale ended up being listed at a price lower than the presale price, or they dropped sharply after listing. The last time I bought a token during the presale, I suffered a significant loss, so I never participated again.
The days of presale has gone, anybody following presale on new projects token is taking a bigger risks of losing money. Like you mentioned, the worst for many of the successful presales projects was that they are listed below the presale price.
I have experience two presales tokens that were listed below presale price on an excuse that market forces will enhance the growth of the token price overtimes, unfortunately, these tokens never survive, they crashed and project team could add liquidity on the exchanges.
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The days of presale has gone, anybody following presale on new projects token is taking a bigger risks of losing money. Like you mentioned, the worst for many of the successful presales projects was that they are listed below the presale price.
I have experience two presales tokens that were listed below presale price on an excuse that market forces will enhance the growth of the token price overtimes, unfortunately, these tokens never survive, they crashed and project team could add liquidity on the exchanges.
You are not alone and many people have gone through the same experience whenever engaging in token presales. As many will attest when a project is introduced in the market, the tendency is to anticipate more than what is actually available. As such, I believe that more emphasis should be placed on the project promises and tokenomics, as well as the form of adoption by the team of value after the launch. Still, numerous projects are just a blinded by the first enthusiasm in their implementation. Such an experience is rather unadmirable but I think that rast time it will help you be more selective when searching for a new project and may be, one day, to meet a really worthy project.
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Actually, it's the same as other programs like ICO and IDO in the past, it all depends on the project we buy. If it's good, then the price will likely increase many times when it's listed, and vice versa. So everything has a risk, and usually the high risk has a higher profit potential. So before entering the pre-sale, keep doing a good analysis.
Correct,
I have invested in pre sale of some projects which were really profitable. However, in the current market scenario people do not want to believe in ICO, pre sale because they have come across many scam projects here and have been cheated repeatedly. Everything in the crypto world has risks but the risk can be reduced only when you become a crypto expert. We all know that it is possible to get good profits from trading, but we still refrain from trading because it requires a lot of experience. We've all lost money more or less in our early crypto lives, so now is the best time to make a profit.
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I cant advise for going into presales offers any longer because most of the ones we have done in the past are not pleasing for making any profits, instead they are just taking advantage on us from what we have invested with them, if it were to be as before, when you invest on a presale, you will most likely be profitable in your investment because the market will always be profitable at it has been launched, many other investors will be coming in and the value increases as a result, but some will go opposite direction and fall after they are launched.
Yes, it is obviously not the best idea or decision this days to invest on ICOs or IDO projects this days because it has become a total waste of time and money. The worst you are most are likely to get this days is a dump project after investing, project developers will list token below presale prices and they never continue with further development of the project, insincerety is just their characteristic.
In fact, I lost confidence in presale token, it has turned a punzi scheme in my opinion.
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So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
I will advice you to simply forget about presales, they are no longer profitable, even if you find a very promising project, it's absolutely better to wait and buy when the token has been listed on the exchange than invest in the presales, and this is because 99 percent or more of the time, token price always goes down below their presale price immediately it gets listed on the exchange..
This I would say that it's as a result of many developers overrating and over pricing their token during presales, and most of this developers are more focused on raising money much more than they are interested in building an actual product that will give the token a good value..
Avoid presales, it's not profitable based on my own personal experiences, I've invested in several presales and not has been profitable..
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I cant advise for going into presales offers any longer because most of the ones we have done in the past are not pleasing for making any profits, instead they are just taking advantage on us from what we have invested with them, if it were to be as before, when you invest on a presale, you will most likely be profitable in your investment because the market will always be profitable at it has been launched, many other investors will be coming in and the value increases as a result, but some will go opposite direction and fall after they are launched.
Yes, it is obviously not the best idea or decision this days to invest on ICOs or IDO projects this days because it has become a total waste of time and money. The worst you are most are likely to get this days is a dump project after investing, project developers will list token below presale prices and they never continue with further development of the project, insincerety is just their characteristic.
In fact, I lost confidence in presale token, it has turned a punzi scheme in my opinion.
Every legit project wants their project to succeed and their tokens to take to a good state. But due to some of their mistakes and lack of investors, they cannot do anything good. And in this case, those who participate in the pre-sale have to lose. Therefore, to invest, you have to be an expert and you have to know about different types of analysis so that you can find those projects that will definitely succeed. Then in that case, participating in the presale can be a great benefit for you. But it is not for everyone.
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I cant advise for going into presales offers any longer because most of the ones we have done in the past are not pleasing for making any profits, instead they are just taking advantage on us from what we have invested with them, if it were to be as before, when you invest on a presale, you will most likely be profitable in your investment because the market will always be profitable at it has been launched, many other investors will be coming in and the value increases as a result, but some will go opposite direction and fall after they are launched.
Yes, it is obviously not the best idea or decision this days to invest on ICOs or IDO projects this days because it has become a total waste of time and money. The worst you are most are likely to get this days is a dump project after investing, project developers will list token below presale prices and they never continue with further development of the project, insincerety is just their characteristic.
In fact, I lost confidence in presale token, it has turned a punzi scheme in my opinion.
Every legit project wants their project to succeed and their tokens to take to a good state. But due to some of their mistakes and lack of investors, they cannot do anything good. And in this case, those who participate in the pre-sale have to lose. Therefore, to invest, you have to be an expert and you have to know about different types of analysis so that you can find those projects that will definitely succeed. Then in that case, participating in the presale can be a great benefit for you. But it is not for everyone.
But now what you say is very difficult to find and, usually, at this time, they always cover whatever happens as closely as possible, so that we sometimes cannot know whether the project is run successfully or not and the transparency is difficult to know.
So it is not surprising that there are currently many projects that run into investors' lack of burden, because many are hesitant to make investments where many eventually only provide bad news and do not pay for sure.
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Every legit project wants their project to succeed and their tokens to take to a good state. But due to some of their mistakes and lack of investors, they cannot do anything good. And in this case, those who participate in the pre-sale have to lose. Therefore, to invest, you have to be an expert and you have to know about different types of analysis so that you can find those projects that will definitely succeed. Then in that case, participating in the presale can be a great benefit for you. But it is not for everyone.
Of course, many of the cryptocurrencies’ development begin with good ideas, but that is where the favourable conditions end. Even minor avoidable errors, inadequate capital or a bad company plan are known to slow down the project and the pre-sale investors end up suffering most. In order to cope with such situation, and even gain some benefits from it, one does have to be a person with highly developed analytical thinking. But, apart from being an expert, I believe that patience and the capacity to handle risk is also extremely essential as well. In some cases, despite the fact that all the parameters seems to be set for the success at the start, problems may occur and lead to failure.
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Of course, many of the cryptocurrencies’ development begin with good ideas, but that is where the favourable conditions end. Even minor avoidable errors, inadequate capital or a bad company plan are known to slow down the project and the pre-sale investors end up suffering most. In order to cope with such situation, and even gain some benefits from it, one does have to be a person with highly developed analytical thinking. But, apart from being an expert, I believe that patience and the capacity to handle risk is also extremely essential as well. In some cases, despite the fact that all the parameters seems to be set for the success at the start, problems may occur and lead to failure.
true what you said. there are many projects with various good ideas, but the realization will not be that smooth they need funds to develop their projects, especially promotion and not all of them have it that good. promotion is one of the most important things for new projects known to xalon investors, how they make their projects hype and build a large community.
Plus for listing coins on top exchanges, they also need a lot of funds. so they can build greater trust from their investors when listed in top exchanges. and what is also important is how each of them is also in the progress of their development. sometimes there are projects that are too good to be true so that they are quite difficult to realize too.
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This I would say that it's as a result of many developers overrating and over pricing their token during presales, and most of this developers are more focused on raising money much more than they are interested in building an actual product that will give the token a good value..
Avoid presales, it's not profitable based on my own personal experiences, I've invested in several presales and not has been profitable..
Of course, a project can run away with fraud at any time after the pre sale is complete. It is true that not everyone benefited from the pre sale and many lost a lot of money through it. Actually, the crypto world moves with new trends so we should follow the right trend at the right time. During the ico hype there was a lot of hype in the pre sale market, which is now marked as a scam tag instead of time. So currently the pre sale is a scam and no one is investing here, so there is no need for any research on pre sale. A few days ago, people suffered losses from the pre sale of the drop coin project. This project has no development activities and those who invested in the pre sale scheme were cheated.
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true what you said. there are many projects with various good ideas, but the realization will not be that smooth they need funds to develop their projects, especially promotion and not all of them have it that good. promotion is one of the most important things for new projects known to xalon investors, how they make their projects hype and build a large community.
Plus for listing coins on top exchanges, they also need a lot of funds. so they can build greater trust from their investors when listed in top exchanges. and what is also important is how each of them is also in the progress of their development. sometimes there are projects that are too good to be true so that they are quite difficult to realize too.
That is right if there is good idea so it is not enough because if want to happen so it can be really tough because they need money. You are especially right about how important it is to have money for promotion. In this busy world of crypto if project and have big community so it is key to getting investors interested.
Also it costs much money because big exchanges ask money to list coin. But remain on those exchanges is really important because it makes investors trust project more. It shows that project has been checked out and that more people are using it. On top of all that it is important to see how project is actually developing.
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To some extent, but though the listing price is not always far from the listed price—but recently I made over a 60% trading SIGN on pre-sale
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So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
imo, I don't think it's healthy to participate in every presale. Before the market became filled with too many scam projects, the chances of getting your investment back was probably 50/50, but at this point, I don't even think it's upto 30/70. I advice you stick to something else, except you have the money to waste.
I have also considered presale as a complete waste of time and resources, even as I had written before, presales this days has almost turned a pumps and dump scheme. Imagine a presale that was successfully completed on schedule, unfortunately they listed token below the presale price, with the thought that the market forces of the demand/supply rules will enhance the price growth as time progresses but it completely a wishful thinking.
Without marketing, promotions, project developments and upgrades, there is absolutely no way for many of these tokens presale token to grow.
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true what you said. there are many projects with various good ideas, but the realization will not be that smooth they need funds to develop their projects, especially promotion and not all of them have it that good. promotion is one of the most important things for new projects known to xalon investors, how they make their projects hype and build a large community.
Plus for listing coins on top exchanges, they also need a lot of funds. so they can build greater trust from their investors when listed in top exchanges. and what is also important is how each of them is also in the progress of their development. sometimes there are projects that are too good to be true so that they are quite difficult to realize too.
That is right if there is good idea so it is not enough because if want to happen so it can be really tough because they need money. You are especially right about how important it is to have money for promotion. In this busy world of crypto if project and have big community so it is key to getting investors interested.
Also it costs much money because big exchanges ask money to list coin. But remain on those exchanges is really important because it makes investors trust project more. It shows that project has been checked out and that more people are using it. On top of all that it is important to see how project is actually developing.
You are absolutely right stating that money is the main driver that makes projects into popular cryptocurrencies as much as possible. But that does not warrant those with money to automatically be the winners. Some of the biggest project failures that have been witnessed in the past are attributed to the fact that the main issue of honesty in building value was overlooked. The public can always be bought with regards to attention, but trust cannot be bought in the long run. When a project has core team and active comunity that is not being forced, it already have good start in my opinion. It is quite true that acquiring big exchanges helps in the enhancement of the image of the investments, nonetheless, what gross investors look at is the eventual advancement of the product and whether or not the product is being used, if it is possible to derive some benefits there from, or not, and if the team behind the product remains active, even when the market is dull. It has been correctly pointed out that it is easier to start something and make it popular than to sustain it.
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So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
imo, I don't think it's healthy to participate in every presale. Before the market became filled with too many scam projects, the chances of getting your investment back was probably 50/50, but at this point, I don't even think it's upto 30/70. I advice you stick to something else, except you have the money to waste.
I have also considered presale as a complete waste of time and resources, even as I had written before, presales this days has almost turned a pumps and dump scheme. Imagine a presale that was successfully completed on schedule, unfortunately they listed token below the presale price, with the thought that the market forces of the demand/supply rules will enhance the price growth as time progresses but it completely a wishful thinking.
Without marketing, promotions, project developments and upgrades, there is absolutely no way for many of these tokens presale token to grow.
Remembering pinksale on this one when it comes into presales on which basing up into previous experiences on which it turned out to be a disaster. Gone are the days with those ICO's that
brings out that good multiplier profits into your investment but now this stuff isnt that worthy anymore on which the initial token price is expensive but on the time that it do get listed on exchangers then its price goes to the floor on which leaving out those seed or presale investors losing up their 90% of their invested money. I have seen tons of similar situation on which it is just that sad into its investors and thats why i dont have any plans on trying out to invest into presales yet its never been worth now.
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So I would appreciate your thoughts on this... Are presales still profitable or I should just forget about that chapter?
imo, I don't think it's healthy to participate in every presale. Before the market became filled with too many scam projects, the chances of getting your investment back was probably 50/50, but at this point, I don't even think it's upto 30/70. I advice you stick to something else, except you have the money to waste.
I have also considered presale as a complete waste of time and resources, even as I had written before, presales this days has almost turned a pumps and dump scheme. Imagine a presale that was successfully completed on schedule, unfortunately they listed token below the presale price, with the thought that the market forces of the demand/supply rules will enhance the price growth as time progresses but it completely a wishful thinking.
Without marketing, promotions, project developments and upgrades, there is absolutely no way for many of these tokens presale token to grow.
Participating in presale is indeed high risk because we do not know whether the project will succeed or not? And we also do not know whether the demand will increase and many people are interested when it is launched. So do research and make the right analysis so that we do not lose. I myself rarely invest in presale
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Participating in presale is indeed high risk because we do not know whether the project will succeed or not? And we also do not know whether the demand will increase and many people are interested when it is launched. So do research and make the right analysis so that we do not lose. I myself rarely invest in presale
Indeed, it could be acknowledged that presale is one of the most risky kinds of investment since we have no idea how the project is going to evolve after its start. In fact, this risk is manageable so long as a person is well informed. To some extent, presale can actually provide big profits to the people who make a proper and profound research of the chosen projects. If you are squeamish about the risk, you can fully understand that. But by learning from experience alone and even passing that experience on to others, it is possible that one may be able to come up with a safer way of investing and yet not completely eliminates the practise.
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Indeed, it could be acknowledged that presale is one of the most risky kinds of investment since we have no idea how the project is going to evolve after its start. In fact, this risk is manageable so long as a person is well informed. To some extent, presale can actually provide big profits to the people who make a proper and profound research of the chosen projects. If you are squeamish about the risk, you can fully understand that. But by learning from experience alone and even passing that experience on to others, it is possible that one may be able to come up with a safer way of investing and yet not completely eliminates the practise.
The risk is commensurate with the potential results obtained... at the presale stage everything seems very scary because we don't know what will happen in the future with the related project... if it becomes something big, then the early investors are the happiest investors... while if there is a setback to the invested project, then the early investors are also the investors who lose the most because of the time and money they sacrifice....
The younger the age of a project, the harder it is to predict the future, and the riskier the project is to invest in.