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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency Trading => Cryptocurrency Price Speculations => Topic started by: Stuart on April 11, 2025, 04:49:13 PM
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Since this year, from February till date, we have been experiencing market consolidation and a downward market movement, though, it is slow, but it just steadily keeps going down. I know there are factors that might affect the price increment of Bitcoin and other crypto currencies, this is what we have been saying since we touched the highs of $109k, now we are in the $76k price mark, can't tell if we will still be going down more, or this is the end of the downward movement.
Do you guys think we are already in the bear market or still on the bull consolidation period?
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Since this year, from February till date, we have been experiencing market consolidation and a downward market movement, though, it is slow, but it just steadily keeps going down. I know there are factors that might affect the price increment of Bitcoin and other crypto currencies, this is what we have been saying since we touched the highs of $109k, now we are in the $76k price mark, can't tell if we will still be going down more, or this is the end of the downward movement.
Do you guys think we are already in the bear market or still on the bull consolidation period?
- I think we are far from or not in a bear market, though we are still in a retracement period for now. And we are in a consolidation movement now where the resistance is playing at 84k$-85k$ while the support is at 74600$.
Bitcoin may hit the price resistance today where it is possible to have a rejection here if there is no fake break out to go to 88k$. If this rejection I see comes true,
it is possible that it will drop from 81k$ to 78500$ to reverse towards the rise again.
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Now the market is strengthening above the price of $80k and this is proof that bitcoin is still able to survive the effects of the trade war that has occurred that affects the world economy.
Bitcoin has been consolidating until now, but are you going to back down and give up as it is now?
Of course this is a good opportunity to start entering and buying gradually, the new ATH will still be achieved bitcoin is only a matter of time, those who are able to survive and continue to buy will get the benefits they deserve.
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I'm not a big fan of technical analysis, or of relying entirely on graphs, because it's usually the trends that dictate prices
This question seems to be the most pertinent among everyone here, whether or not we're in a bear market.
If you look at past cycles, there have been big falls and then the market went up again, and even reached new ATH
But it's going to be very difficult for this to happen until investors return to liquidity because of all the current conflicts, especially the tariffs and the American economy
Just look at what happened in the last cycle:
(https://i.ibb.co/xS2DZ6yS/topo.png) (https://imgbb.com/)
Source (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/)
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This thread has been created somewhere in the forum and this particular thread looks like a paraphrasing to that thread. And op this your thread would have been better id it is a comment on that thread and I just made a search in the forum and got the thread https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=329314.0
Coming back to the topic of the thread. Some said we are in the bear market. The market right now is confusing many in the industry because the time is unknown to many and we don't know the exact Bear Run again.
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Do you guys think we are already in the bear market or still on the bull consolidation period?
(https://talkimg.com/images/2025/04/12/xtqZ5.png)
The picture above is the price movement of Bitcoin during the 2021 Bull run on a monthly time frame.
If you will see, there is a time where the market went down for 3 months straight (April - June), but after that, it went up significantly yet again and even surpassing its previous ATH. Now we are seeing the same scenario yet again. The market pumped then it is going down for 2 months already (February and March), and there's a chance that it will happen again this month before the upwards movement happens again. There's a chance that the downwards movement on the price of Bitcoin can extend for more than 3 months, but it can shorten as well.
We are still on a bull run. We just saw some investors taking profit I guess because they're the ones that accumulated during the bear market season at around 2022-2023.
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Bitcoin price is currently at $84k+ and I expect the price to reach a new ATH because the bull market is not over. The dip that we had was a 30% dip which is a norm in every bull market before the price will bounce back. I hope to see bitcoin price starts pumping in May to a price above 90k since Trump has put a pause on the reciprocal tariff of all imported goods coming into the US. We are still bullish.
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Bitcoin price is currently at $84k+ and I expect the price to reach a new ATH because the bull market is not over. The dip that we had was a 30% dip which is a norm in every bull market before the price will bounce back. I hope to see bitcoin price starts pumping in May to a price above 90k since Trump has put a pause on the reciprocal tariff of all imported goods coming into the US. We are still bullish.
As at today, the price of Bitcoin reached the $85k price mark, and this is good for the market to go up, reaching above $90k. I will accept the fact that after every ATH attained by Bitcoin, we see a little correction/consolidating market, and then something new to follow up with, which could either be a continuation of the bull run or a bear market. So far, so good, we still see the market on the bull run movement, which means we might be getting some new ATH on or before the year ends.
Another good thing is the tariff war of the US government, where President Trump has paused the tariff for the moment on products/goods entering into the US. This could have positive effect on both crypto and stock market.
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We have definitely been in a bullish movement from last year to this time. Some have seen a temporary negative trend in the market due to Trump's various policies in recent times, but it was only temporary. The market fell a bit at that time due to panic, but when Trump withdrew from implementing the additional tariff policy, the market returned to its previous position. That is why I think the market was bullish and we are still in a bullish movement, but there is a possibility of it being higher as expected. The market is already being influenced in that direction.
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Since this year, from February till date, we have been experiencing market consolidation and a downward market movement, though, it is slow, but it just steadily keeps going down. I know there are factors that might affect the price increment of Bitcoin and other crypto currencies, this is what we have been saying since we touched the highs of $109k, now we are in the $76k price mark, can't tell if we will still be going down more, or this is the end of the downward movement.
Do you guys think we are already in the bear market or still on the bull consolidation period?
I will rather say we are in the bitcoin bull consolidation period, the market hasn’t gone down below where we saw the all time high in the last cycle, so until that price is broken below on the chart, I don’t think we will be taking about the bearish trend of bitcoin already in place. We can’t say how long the bearish market will last but one thing is certain that everyone is saying, that throughout this year, the bitcoin bull run can still take place where $150K has been anticipated to be the price it will reach or beyond. From now till the end of the year, if the price crosses below the previous all time high in the last cycle, many will start preparing for a bullish market and not hope much for a bull run to happen again this season.
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I will rather say we are in the bitcoin bull consolidation period, the market hasn’t gone down below where we saw the all time high in the last cycle, so until that price is broken below on the chart, I don’t think we will be taking about the bearish trend of bitcoin already in place. We can’t say how long the bearish market will last but one thing is certain that everyone is saying, that throughout this year, the bitcoin bull run can still take place where $150K has been anticipated to be the price it will reach or beyond. From now till the end of the year, if the price crosses below the previous all time high in the last cycle, many will start preparing for a bullish market and not hope much for a bull run to happen again this season.
To be honest Trump is the main issue here affecting the whole bull market drama, but with time things we will be better. The whole manipulation can not last forever and soon the market sentiment can be more balanced and then Trump and his men won't have this much influence again just like how Elon Musk influence on bitcoin has dropped down than before.
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We are not in the bear market and it is yet to come if the Tariff War continues, bitcoin might Crash like the way it did in the year 2022. And for that short term investors will loss it have a rethink to extend their investment plans to long term. Since the last All Time High was 109k and the last bear run was $15k and now we have $85k then we are still at the in the medium/average rate of bitcoin and the bear run should be 54.5k
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Do you guys think we are already in the bear market or still on the bull consolidation period?
I'm sure we are still in the bullrun season, it is not the time for bearish season yet. Yes, we are sometimes in downtrend and sideways. It is normal, we only need to be patient to wait for the raising time. Since we are experiencing red market in the beginning of this year (Q1), I think we may have a chance for green markets in Q2 or Q3. It is likely the consolidation time, we don't be afraid so much. As long as Bitcoin price is still above $70k, it seems no big deal. But if Bitcoin price dropped to below $50k, it is surely a big problem, we can assume that bullrun season is over already.
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I don't believe that the bear market is starting because according to my analysis it's not. I have an strategy that when the price reach that specific area it will invalidate the trend which means that the opposite trend is starting. Just like now, we can see that the price in the higher time frame it makes higher highs and higher lows which indicates that we are in an up trend or bullish trend, but when price failed to make higher higher but make lower lows and lower highs that's the sign that bear market is starting. So once the price will go below 50K, that's the time bear market is starting.
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I don't believe that the bear market is starting because according to my analysis it's not. I have an strategy that when the price reach that specific area it will invalidate the trend which means that the opposite trend is starting. Just like now, we can see that the price in the higher time frame it makes higher highs and higher lows which indicates that we are in an up trend or bullish trend, but when price failed to make higher higher but make lower lows and lower highs that's the sign that bear market is starting. So once the price will go below 50K, that's the time bear market is starting.
This is what confuses people reading on peoples comment too. I tend to believe posts saying the bulls are buying more because of the tariff and signal is that countries are stacking up BTC to avoid sanctions but in reality the price is still going down.
While few other are saying we are in the bear market since we reached the ATH just Jan 2025 and clearly the RSI and momentum indicators says so.
In the end, users hold on to the BTC while prices are falling when they should be selling instead.
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I don't believe that the bear market is starting because according to my analysis it's not. I have an strategy that when the price reach that specific area it will invalidate the trend which means that the opposite trend is starting. Just like now, we can see that the price in the higher time frame it makes higher highs and higher lows which indicates that we are in an up trend or bullish trend, but when price failed to make higher higher but make lower lows and lower highs that's the sign that bear market is starting. So once the price will go below 50K, that's the time bear market is starting.
No one believe, or if there are, those are newbies that have little to no knowledge about the price movement of Bitcoin.
While many believe (including me) that we aren't in a bear market still, there's still a chance that we might see a further downwards movement from where we are right now. I mean in an unpredictable market like crypto, anything can happen... or at least some unexpected things can happen. :D Nobody expected that we will reach a new ATH before the halving event back in 2024.
Still, I don't think that we are in a bear market, and what I expect is that it will only happen in 2026. I might be wrong though and something most aren't expecting to happen MIGHT happen. :D
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Yeah, I still remember what happened to Bitcoin on it's 4th halving. In the first to third halving of Bitcoin, they have similar movement, and according to the chart that ATH only occur after the halving date. But in the 4th halving, it's different. Although it reaches new ATH but it happened before the halving. I believe it happened because many investors have already watching this to happen so that they anticipated to buy in advance that lead the price to make a new ATH. That's what I'm basing for the Altseason, that even though ATH not happen the same way as it used to be it's still make new ATH. So for me, Altseason will do the same way.
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I don't believe that the bear market is starting because according to my analysis it's not. I have an strategy that when the price reach that specific area it will invalidate the trend which means that the opposite trend is starting. Just like now, we can see that the price in the higher time frame it makes higher highs and higher lows which indicates that we are in an up trend or bullish trend, but when price failed to make higher higher but make lower lows and lower highs that's the sign that bear market is starting. So once the price will go below 50K, that's the time bear market is starting.
No one believe, or if there are, those are newbies that have little to no knowledge about the price movement of Bitcoin.
While many believe (including me) that we aren't in a bear market still, there's still a chance that we might see a further downwards movement from where we are right now. I mean in an unpredictable market like crypto, anything can happen... or at least some unexpected things can happen. :D Nobody expected that we will reach a new ATH before the halving event back in 2024.
Still, I don't think that we are in a bear market, and what I expect is that it will only happen in 2026. I might be wrong though and something most aren't expecting to happen MIGHT happen. :D
What's happening in the market is only a price correction and it's called Trump dump because his decisions on tariff controls the price movement of bitcoin, since investors are playing smart and careful not to run at big loss. However, such downtrend in the price of bitcoin is a norm in the bull market. We are still bullish, is just that I am waiting to see bitcoin price breakthrough 88k to 89k and above, that can trigger the pump to six digits.
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What's happening in the market is only a price correction and it's called Trump dump because his decisions on tariff controls the price movement of bitcoin, since investors are playing smart and careful not to run at big loss. However, such downtrend in the price of bitcoin is a norm in the bull market. We are still bullish, is just that I am waiting to see bitcoin price breakthrough 88k to 89k and above, that can trigger the pump to six digits.
I also hope it is only a correction, not the sign of bearish season. I'm also optimistic that we still have few months for bullrun season in this year. No, Trump doesn't control the price of Bitcoin by raising the Tariff. Bitcoin price is only influenced temporarily, I'm sure it will have no impact in the long run. Yes, downtrend and sideways are normal in crypto, so we don't need to panic now. I'm also very sure that the price can easily increase again when it can cross $90k again.
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What's happening in the market is only a price correction and it's called Trump dump because his decisions on tariff controls the price movement of bitcoin, since investors are playing smart and careful not to run at big loss. However, such downtrend in the price of bitcoin is a norm in the bull market. We are still bullish, is just that I am waiting to see bitcoin price breakthrough 88k to 89k and above, that can trigger the pump to six digits.
I also hope it is only a correction, not the sign of bearish season. I'm also optimistic that we still have few months for bullrun season in this year. No, Trump doesn't control the price of Bitcoin by raising the Tariff. Bitcoin price is only influenced temporarily, I'm sure it will have no impact in the long run. Yes, downtrend and sideways are normal in crypto, so we don't need to panic now. I'm also very sure that the price can easily increase again when it can cross $90k again.
I am smiling as when writing this post because currently, bitcoin on a $95k+ bench mark. This is a significant that we are heading to six digits in no time. The month of May would be a good month for bitcoin and I hope that bitcoin price hits a new ATH before the end of Trump tariff suspension.
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Since this year, from February till date, we have been experiencing market consolidation and a downward market movement, though, it is slow, but it just steadily keeps going down. I know there are factors that might affect the price increment of Bitcoin and other crypto currencies, this is what we have been saying since we touched the highs of $109k, now we are in the $76k price mark, can't tell if we will still be going down more, or this is the end of the downward movement.
Do you guys think we are already in the bear market or still on the bull consolidation period?
Bear market is not near for now, we should erase our mind over it, even though the market may be falling, we should have the assurance of it pumping again after a short period, because this is still a continuation of the bull season and we are more likely to have all time high before the end of this year, the bull market is not yet done, we should get prepared for more bullrun over the market as it proceeds.
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Bear market is not near for now, we should erase our mind over it, even though the market may be falling, we should have the assurance of it pumping again after a short period, because this is still a continuation of the bull season and we are more likely to have all time high before the end of this year, the bull market is not yet done, we should get prepared for more bullrun over the market as it proceeds.
Only Bitcoin price is what going to determine if we are going to experience a bear market very soon and as it seems, the price looks solid as it's trying to make it way back to $100k again. If that price is achieved, I'm very bullish that market is going to follow but my concern is many altcoins are laying down flat, they don't look like they are going to move.
It could also be that after this breaking of $100k resistance, we might see another bull run on altcoins because you know that when bull run want to come, we don't see it coming until we see fomo from people trying to be on the trend of profits.
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What's happening in the market is only a price correction and it's called Trump dump because his decisions on tariff controls the price movement of bitcoin, since investors are playing smart and careful not to run at big loss. However, such downtrend in the price of bitcoin is a norm in the bull market. We are still bullish, is just that I am waiting to see bitcoin price breakthrough 88k to 89k and above, that can trigger the pump to six digits.
I also hope it is only a correction, not the sign of bearish season. I'm also optimistic that we still have few months for bullrun season in this year. No, Trump doesn't control the price of Bitcoin by raising the Tariff. Bitcoin price is only influenced temporarily, I'm sure it will have no impact in the long run. Yes, downtrend and sideways are normal in crypto, so we don't need to panic now. I'm also very sure that the price can easily increase again when it can cross $90k again.
I am smiling as when writing this post because currently, bitcoin on a $95k+ bench mark. This is a significant that we are heading to six digits in no time. The month of May would be a good month for bitcoin and I hope that bitcoin price hits a new ATH before the end of Trump tariff suspension.
The announcement of Trump's tariff suspension for three months has started to have a positive impact on the market. I believe that we will cross 100k within this month and get a new ATH within the next month. When Bitcoin starts to rise, it will increase a lot in a short time. That is why we are definitely waiting for a bullish movement, not a bearish one. However, it is also uncertain when the bear market may come. Large institutional investors around the world have started collecting Bitcoin. It is assumed that Bitcoin's bullish movement is likely to be long.
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Bear market is not near for now, we should erase our mind over it, even though the market may be falling, we should have the assurance of it pumping again after a short period, because this is still a continuation of the bull season and we are more likely to have all time high before the end of this year, the bull market is not yet done, we should get prepared for more bullrun over the market as it proceeds.
I also assume we are still in the bullish period because it is still in Q2 of the second year of bullrun season. This should last until Q4 2025 if we consider the previous cycles. However, we can't blame those who assume we will be in the bearish season soon. Let's them to trust their theory, everyone has the right to make their own theory. Sure, there is no one who really knows what will happen in the next few months. We only predict the possibility of the market condition in the next few months. But we never knows that it really can happen or not. ;)