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Wider Crypto World => Gambling & Crypto Casinos => Gambling discussion => Topic started by: |MINER| on April 11, 2025, 11:31:06 PM
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We all know that Artificial Intelligence has become very powerful nowadays and just as it is being used for good purposes, abusers are also in the ground to abuse it. This abuser has already started committing KYC verification fraud through AI.
Many may say that the Liveness Detection option will be able to detect them, but in this case too I saw that they are skipping it by using Face Injection Attacks and also the others methods.
Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license?
another discussion on another platform on this topic- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5537923.0
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How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI?
Like I already said, as technology has the potential to make it easier for individuals to beat KYC verification, it will not remain a secret; casinos will also be aware of it and will not ignore it.
The same technology will be applied by casinos to make the KYC verification process stricter and more difficult for people to maneuver with AI.
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Like I already said, as technology has the potential to make it easier for individuals to beat KYC verification, it will not remain a secret; casinos will also be aware of it and will not ignore it.
The same technology will be applied by casinos to make the KYC verification process stricter and more difficult for people to maneuver with AI.
He posted that the casinos are not verifying the information. It is difficult to know the true document from the fake ones at times but being able to verify the documents from the government will easily be used to know the fake documents. But I do not think what he posted that the casinos are not verifying the document is true.
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But I do not think what he posted that the casinos are not verifying the document is true.
I think the same too - because I have seen some scam accusation threads where the casino representatives mentioned that they usually rely on third parties for verification of the the authenticity of the documents that was submitted by their users.
If it’s true the casinos don’t verify documents then we won’t even need any powerful AI to be able to bypass the verification process because any document that looks like the original one will be accepted by the casino but that’s not the case in reality.
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I think the same too - because I have seen some scam accusation threads where the casino representatives mentioned that they usually rely on third parties for verification of the the authenticity of the documents that was submitted by their users.
I feel like this is true for most businesses nowadays. They rely on third-party verification platforms because it's cheaper to do so, but it's also a hassle for the users if something goes wrong because you don't have a way to actually talk to the responsible parties to clear up some troubles. We have to rely on B2B communication channels that are slow most of the time.
I won't be surprised if they introduce something even more intrusive than liveness verification, like video calls with a CS and so on. Hopefully, there will be enough pushback so that it won't become a new standard if AI does complicate things further. CMIIW.
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But I do not think what he posted that the casinos are not verifying the document is true.
I think the same too - because I have seen some scam accusation threads where the casino representatives mentioned that they usually rely on third parties for verification of the the authenticity of the documents that was submitted by their users.
surely they wouldn’t manually check it by human because that could be tedious and inefficient but i am sure that if something suspicious happens during the first check then they will manually check it themselves
If it’s true the casinos don’t verify documents then we won’t even need any powerful AI to be able to bypass the verification process because any document that looks like the original one will be accepted by the casino but that’s not the case in reality.
i don’t think so
has anyone tried submitting a faux document? it’s risky to try just for experiment because you could get in trouble with your own government
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How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI?
Like I already said, as technology has the potential to make it easier for individuals to beat KYC verification, it will not remain a secret; casinos will also be aware of it and will not ignore it.
The same technology will be applied by casinos to make the KYC verification process stricter and more difficult for people to maneuver with AI.
Seems this battle is between AI used by users and AI used by the casino platform to outsmart each other though this is not new since this has been used by many but the only advantage in either one is accuracy and that will surely be the pure winner here but that doesn't end there because if casinos failed to detect that earlier I'm sure they will surely pay attention to this next time and will invest in more sophisticated tech to catch these evasion.
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Must be the reason why some casinos are trying to ask selfies with the latest newspapers or a post of street name. Verification can be used by the casinos to make sure they can freeze the funds too.
If they will just reason they need new ID because his ID has expired, the AI can still be used for it. I think they could hire an expert in identifying which images is fake sent by users.
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Probably KYC verification will be sort of hard and strict in the near future or maybe later this year such verification will be available already fron KYC provider services. I know exchanges in my locals have some kind of video verification where you're holding your id while the CS is asking some questions instead of typical uploading ID images, or selfie holding the id.
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Now, where I have doubts is that casino sites make kyc verification successful without getting access to the data of the national id of any country. How will they fight or are they fighting with these new methods of AI? So is casino KYC verification currently just for show purposes to get the license?
Only AI can fight an AI. When it comes to tracing an AI generated work, the industry will likely employ their own version of AI to fight these AI's but they will still employ humans to check generated AI, because I still maintain that AIs have flaws that human eyes can see if they are trained to see the differences between real and artificial.
With the proliferation of AIs in the future, there will be abuse, and casinos should be ready to face this threat.
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Probably KYC verification will be sort of hard and strict in the near future or maybe later this year such verification will be available already fron KYC provider services. I know exchanges in my locals have some kind of video verification where you're holding your id while the CS is asking some questions instead of typical uploading ID images, or selfie holding the id.
Despite the current situation in the world, which is, to put it mildly, harassing, but in my opinion, actual KYC verification is not possible without this type of way, but yes, the KYC verifications that are possible are probably just for showing us.
Although I see many people talking about AI detection, I have doubts here too because even before this, general KYC verification was basically done by one kind of artificial intelligence.
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This pretty common even without the use of AI. Before they can generate a fake documents that they can use for KYC verification.
The only solution that I think to avoid this fake KYC documents is by asking for live selfie holding IDs and asking them to show their left and right side of their face while holding documents this shouldn't be easy to manipulate by AI.
Second solution I guess is live cam to cam and ask for basic question related to the documents they submitted.
However, this is time consuming I am not sure, but the majority of gamblers do not want to gamble on a site that requires all kinds of KYC verification like this; instead, they want instant results or easy and accessible without too much documents needed.
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The more up-to-date these AI technologies are, the casino sites will also conduct their activities accordingly. We may be wondering that if KYC is completed with this AI, how can it trace the members of a country? If scammers really use it, they will try to do various misdeeds using this facility. However, the more up-to-date we see the technology, the more these platforms, especially all the finance-related platforms, try to use more advanced technology. Maybe many can commit fraud in a short time, but it cannot be long-term. Just as good crypto exchange platforms take all the information's of their clients when they come live, I think casino platforms will also follow the same way if necessary in the future.