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Title: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: ABCbits on April 14, 2025, 11:58:22 AM
Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Co-founder John Patrick Mullin alleged the movement was likely due to exchanges closing OM positions, which impacted all market exposure.

Crypto traders were reminded of Terra’s LUNA early Monday as trendy real-world asset upstart Mantra’s OM token dropped 90% within hours on no sudden catalyst — with conspiracy theories and allegations running abound among crypto circles.

OM plunged from over $6 to just over 40 cents late Sunday to early Monday in typically low liquidity hours for the crypto market — where outsized volumes can trigger massive price movements in either direction... Read more here (https://www.coindesk.com/markets/2025/04/14/mantra-s-om-crashes-90-in-bizarre-selloff-as-team-alleges-forced-liquidations).



As additional information, Mantra (OM) was in 20th position on CoinMarketCap last week with $5.5B market cap. See https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20250406/ (https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20250406/). Do you think it's rugpull despite the project exist since 2020? Your opinion is greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Charles-Tim on April 14, 2025, 12:47:44 PM
There is nothing I can think of than it was planned. We can not trust any altcoins because of how people that created them and big investors are. Altcoins are full of insiders trading and manipulation which is what that is happening as usual.

We always tell people that altcoins are not for holding. Make money and sell.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Gposas on April 14, 2025, 07:33:56 PM
There is nothing I can think of than it was planned. We can not trust any altcoins because of how people that created them and big investors are. Altcoins are full of insiders trading and manipulation which is what that is happening as usual.

We always tell people that altcoins are not for holding. Make money and sell.
Your thoughts are right, the manipulation ongoing with some Altcoins expresses it's risk of Holding. Just imagine the dump of 90%!!!
And this is not even a memecoin. The heavy loss is left for investors and Holders to handle.
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“We have determined that the OM market movements were triggered by reckless forced closures initiated by centralized exchanges on OM account holders,” Mullin said in an X post.
This seems strange, is he saying that CEX can forcefully sell off from a user's account without the knowledge of the user?
I guess it'll be better if he could point at the exchange so users could be aware.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: hugeblack on April 14, 2025, 08:21:02 PM
Or what happened was a high-level pump dump. The problem with many new tokens is the lack of liquidity, and if most of the liquidity were given to certain crtpo CEXs, they could manipulate the price to maximize profits.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Classickitana on April 15, 2025, 03:38:59 AM
Mantra really did scam almost 5 billion dollars worth.
One twitter guy said that he lost 15 million dollars worth of mantra and now he is broke. He wants to end his life.
I hope that we might not get caught in these kind of scams.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 15, 2025, 04:31:53 AM
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As additional information, Mantra (OM) was in 20th position on CoinMarketCap last week with $5.5B market cap. See https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20250406/ (https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20250406/). Do you think it's rugpull despite the project exist since 2020? Your opinion is greatly appreciated.
The drop is even worse than FTX token in 2022 for me.
I mean 80-90% drop in just a span of an hour. I'm literally sleeping when that happened and when I woke up, I'm surprised on what happened.

Well, this is the reason why we need to be aware on which altcoins are we buying if we want to hold some. I saw a tweet on X where an investor lost around $1.3 Million dollars because he went all in on OM only to lose it all. It's good that he's getting those losses again through trading since he's an expert trader.

Is this a rugpull? Maybe yes, or maybe no. TBH, it's hard to say, and I'm leaning towards the fact that I will only say that it's a rugpull if the developers themselves will be silent for the next weeks after what happened. One thing's for sure though. The reputation of the project is something that will take them years before it will be rebuilt. The trust of the investors towards this project is gone after what happened, and with this, I believe it's just the start of the downfall of the project.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Charles-Tim on April 15, 2025, 08:11:08 AM
One twitter guy said that he lost 15 million dollars worth of mantra and now he is broke. He wants to end his life.
I do not know the reason people are just like this as they are able to leave such high amount of money on altcoins and be able to sleep conveniently in the night. I am always afraid leaving money on altcoins until I see it if the money is huge for me.  And if the altcoin increase, I prefer to sell as soon as possible. Altcoins will always teach people lesson. This is just another one but not the last.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Stompix on April 15, 2025, 08:39:28 AM
Do you think it's rugpull despite the project exist since 2020? Your opinion is greatly appreciated.

But the coin has been priced between 3 and 20 cents for all those years, it pumped to first time over $1 in June 2024.
So it's not like they didn't want to scam, it's more like they lacked the incentive to do it till now.
The market cap was under 20 millions and the volume was barely 1 million in trade so they weren't even able to dump.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 15, 2025, 09:07:41 AM
There is nothing I can think of than it was planned. We can not trust any altcoins because of how people that created them and big investors are. Altcoins are full of insiders trading and manipulation which is what that is happening as usual.
we investors should really look up more information about a project first especially when they are first to be launched some projects are transparent on the allocation percentage of the tokens and if you see that a huge part of the allocation is given to the higher ups then you should know better than to hope and hold that for a long time because only the dev team will benefit the most here
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We always tell people that altcoins are not for holding. Make money and sell.
i feel bad for those who invested a lot and got caught in the middle of this but for sure this well serve as a lesson for them
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: TomPluz on April 15, 2025, 09:50:25 AM

Wow what a drop...from $6 to just mere 40 cents in just some hours of trading! And many are saying, this can even be worse than what happened to Terra’s LUNA in May 2022. And now, people are speculating as what really happened to Mantra...is this another inside job or a planned manipulative attack by outside forces. As this is going into the history books of cryptocurrency, I am sure this can be a subject of many discussions and debates in the following weeks and let's hope that the truth will came out in the end. This is another example of the many risks involved when investing with altcoins...while the opportunity for financial growth is there, there is also that possibility of being wiped out. And it did not help that this is named MANTRA which is a scared utterance, an expression of faith.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: ABCbits on April 15, 2025, 10:28:13 AM
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“We have determined that the OM market movements were triggered by reckless forced closures initiated by centralized exchanges on OM account holders,” Mullin said in an X post.
This seems strange, is he saying that CEX can forcefully sell off from a user's account without the knowledge of the user?
I guess it'll be better if he could point at the exchange so users could be aware.

Looking at this tweet (https://twitter.com/Cointelegraph/status/1911748302875381836 (https://twitter.com/Cointelegraph/status/1911748302875381836)), Mantra team probably refer to OKX. Although it also shows possibility the massive sell/dump was planned.

Do you think it's rugpull despite the project exist since 2020? Your opinion is greatly appreciated.

But the coin has been priced between 3 and 20 cents for all those years, it pumped to first time over $1 in June 2024.
So it's not like they didn't want to scam, it's more like they lacked the incentive to do it till now.
The market cap was under 20 millions and the volume was barely 1 million in trade so they weren't even able to dump.

That's good point. They wouldn't earn much if they decide to rugpull back then.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Bobcrypto on April 15, 2025, 12:24:42 PM
Or what happened was a high-level pump dump. The problem with many new tokens is the lack of liquidity, and if most of the liquidity were given to certain crtpo CEXs, they could manipulate the price to maximize profits.

Yes, it is actually one of those pumps and dumps altcoins projects scheme, unfortunately this things keep happening regularly. The FTX (Luna) collapse is still in our memory, it quite disappointing how some of these projects team will deliberately dumps the market with unreasonable excuses to justify themselves.
In my opinion, this an organized crime, the project team can not denial their involvement on this dumps, it is unacceptable and should be reported to appropriate law enforcement agencies for further investigations.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Faisal2202 on April 15, 2025, 04:38:07 PM
As additional information, Mantra (OM) was in 20th position on CoinMarketCap last week with $5.5B market cap. See https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20250406/ (https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20250406/). Do you think it's rugpull despite the project exist since 2020? Your opinion is greatly appreciated.
I never bought this token, but in Jan and Dec, it was everyone's favorite token, everyone and I got a lot of good news about OM but never bought it because of the continuous unlocking of supply and for some other reason, the point is, a token with a strong base, which had good partnerships, still decided to rug pull!

This is so disappointing. The team is accusing CEXs, while OKX and some others said, Everything is publicly available, there is no need to point fingers, I mean, just 2 or 4 hours ago, an investor deposited 4.2% of the total supply and sold. It can't be a coincidence, it was really a big scandal, which we will come to know later, as now everyone is pointing fingers at each other.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Forsyth Jones on April 15, 2025, 10:52:49 PM
I've heard of this token before, maybe I've even opened a long position with it, but I didn't know it was that old... 2020...

It's hard not to be a rugpull, since this has happened with other tokens before.

Do you guys think the OM token has completely lost its credibility in the market and will never be profitable again along with the other coins in the top 50 - 100 of coinmarketcap?

So, it's worth warning, don't get too exposed to altcoins, they are easily manipulated and sensitive to news (whether good or bad).

Even Bitcoin suffers from this, however, it always returns to its ATH or last top.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Kemarit on April 16, 2025, 05:52:00 AM
I haven't heard of this token, but most likely we can all speculate that,

1. it's really a rug pull
2. manipulated by those huge holders and could have colluded with each other to bring the price down and sell early to make a lot of money.

So I just this is just another hard lessons for everyone specially in altcoin markets that everything can literally go to 0 when you are sleeping and so it's better to just invest on Bitcoin in today's chaos.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: rdluffy on April 16, 2025, 09:05:53 PM
What happened to Mantra is quite incredible
Several influencers recommended this token, and I'm sure many users were influenced to buy it

A 90% drop in a token with a marketcap of more than 5 billion USD makes us wonder if the marketcap they showed is real, and also shows us the fragility of altcoins and the trust we sometimes place in developers and investors

Does anyone here have OM in their wallet?
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Forsyth Jones on April 17, 2025, 11:04:14 AM
What happened to Mantra is quite incredible
Several influencers recommended this token, and I'm sure many users were influenced to buy it

A 90% drop in a token with a marketcap of more than 5 billion USD makes us wonder if the marketcap they showed is real, and also shows us the fragility of altcoins and the trust we sometimes place in developers and investors

Does anyone here have OM in their wallet?
I don’t own. Every day that passes, I grow more convinced that Bitcoin is the only smart and safe choice. Everything else is pure speculation. These coins and trends disappear too fast, first memecoins, then RWA… AI. They're just pumps for short-term trading, nothing more.

I'm impressed by how many people had a large part of their portfolio in mantra, ending up losing all their capital. I always saw this token rising and was impressed by its movement... scary.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Stompix on April 17, 2025, 03:35:06 PM
Do you guys think the OM token has completely lost its credibility in the market and will never be profitable again along with the other coins in the top 50 - 100 of coinmarketcap?

Half of the coins in top 50-100 are coins that are slowly dying, the other are coins for which the pump felt too short and never made it into the real spotlight, so their credibility was at least questionable in the first place if not completely missing so, hardly anythign to lose for those.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Solomon Wealthy on April 17, 2025, 06:40:44 PM
Exactly — most altcoins are just insider games. Pump, dump, repeat. Best move is trade the hype, take profits, and never marry the bag.

Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: rdluffy on April 18, 2025, 07:03:55 PM
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I don’t own. Every day that passes, I grow more convinced that Bitcoin is the only smart and safe choice. Everything else is pure speculation. These coins and trends disappear too fast, first memecoins, then RWA… AI. They're just pumps for short-term trading, nothing more.

I'm impressed by how many people had a large part of their portfolio in mantra, ending up losing all their capital. I always saw this token rising and was impressed by its movement... scary.

I've been dealing with cryptos for a long time now, and I only got to know them because of an altcoin: ETH
I've already achieved great results with altcoins, including ETH, SOL and a few other altcoins
I don't even think the biggest risk is devaluation, because you have plenty of time to make a decision, and a devaluation is usually defined by the market as a whole

But these rug pulls, contract failures, hacks and deppegs are catastrophic, they can pulverize your assets in a few minutes or in a single day
I already suffered a very annoying loss once with USDC on the Phantom network, where the dollar simply lost 90%
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: ABCbits on April 19, 2025, 10:06:45 AM
Do you guys think the OM token has completely lost its credibility in the market and will never be profitable again along with the other coins in the top 50 - 100 of coinmarketcap?

I think we can take conclusion by seeing top 100 coin in past few years[1] and then compare it with today's position and price. From quick inspection, most of them are either stagnant or in decline. So i expect Mantra/OM will be another token that in decline.

What happened to Mantra is quite incredible
Several influencers recommended this token, and I'm sure many users were influenced to buy it

Yeah, some people would rather listen to influencers without sufficient research about what they're going to buy. Even with a bit of research, they could find detailed analysis about Mantra/OM such as https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1jif9d5/mantra_om_the_crypto_ponzi_nobody_wants_to_talk/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/1jif9d5/mantra_om_the_crypto_ponzi_nobody_wants_to_talk/).

[1] https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/ (https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/)
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Jating on April 19, 2025, 10:16:43 AM
What happened to Mantra is quite incredible
Several influencers recommended this token, and I'm sure many users were influenced to buy it
That's one lesson again for us, not to be sway by this so called crypto influencers.

A 90% drop in a token with a marketcap of more than 5 billion USD makes us wonder if the marketcap they showed is real, and also shows us the fragility of altcoins and the trust we sometimes place in developers and investors
It's real as it gets, everything is on the blockchain. And even they blame the exchanges, it was reported that there are a lot of movement days before the actual sell-off that's why it is suspected that this could be a case of insider trading.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Gposas on April 19, 2025, 02:02:57 PM
What happened to Mantra is quite incredible
Several influencers recommended this token, and I'm sure many users were influenced to buy it

You're right mate, most users are always persuaded by influencers and they don't even bother to get the most little atom of information about what they are willing to invest on. Like these influencers are AI to them.

I've been carried away by such devastating persuasion once from these influencers and I learnt my lesson to always make my own personal research before investing/trading any token.

It's just a big heart break to most Investors because I don't think this token would reach its value of over $6 in the next 3yrs.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 19, 2025, 04:12:22 PM
What happened to Mantra is quite incredible
Several influencers recommended this token, and I'm sure many users were influenced to buy it
i am sure these influencers were also just paid to promote the token most of the time social media influencers are not really that honest to their followers as long as money is involved
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A 90% drop in a token with a marketcap of more than 5 billion USD makes us wonder if the marketcap they showed is real, and also shows us the fragility of altcoins and the trust we sometimes place in developers and investors

Does anyone here have OM in their wallet?
that is what happens when altcoins are centralized you never know what could happen a lot of people wanted to make some profit and there’s really risk in that
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: MrSpasybo on April 20, 2025, 06:52:17 PM
You're right mate, most users are always persuaded by influencers and they don't even bother to get the most little atom of information about what they are willing to invest on. Like these influencers are AI to them.

I've been carried away by such devastating persuasion once from these influencers and I learnt my lesson to always make my own personal research before investing/trading any token.

It's just a big heart break to most Investors because I don't think this token would reach its value of over $6 in the next 3yrs.
Few could resist OM after witnessing its price surge hundreds of times, especially with RWA considered a major trend this cycle. KOLs tend to say what the community wants to hear, and they mention OM as an example of crypto market potential, leading many new investors to buy OM without understanding the value and risks of the MantraDao project.

This will be a significant lesson for us this cycle. Luckily, I didn't buy OM even though I once regretted missing the profit opportunity. I don't think OM can recover impressively like SOL did, MantraDao doesn't have the strong ecosystem and technology that Solana possesses.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: MrSpasybo on April 20, 2025, 07:04:09 PM
You're right mate, most users are always persuaded by influencers and they don't even bother to get the most little atom of information about what they are willing to invest on. Like these influencers are AI to them.

I've been carried away by such devastating persuasion once from these influencers and I learnt my lesson to always make my own personal research before investing/trading any token.

It's just a big heart break to most Investors because I don't think this token would reach its value of over $6 in the next 3yrs.
Few could resist OM after witnessing its price surge hundreds of times, especially with RWA considered a major trend this cycle. KOLs tend to say what the community wants to hear, and they mention OM as an example of crypto market potential, leading many new investors to buy OM without understanding the value and risks of the MantraDao project.

This will be a significant lesson for us this cycle. Luckily, I didn't buy OM even though I once regretted missing the profit opportunity. I don't think OM can recover impressively like SOL did, MantraDao doesn't have the strong ecosystem and technology that Solana possesses.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: rdluffy on April 20, 2025, 10:57:36 PM
Looking at the Mantra case, it's interesting to note one thing
This week I've read two threads with questions about buying BTC at 500 dollars or Solana at 2 dollars if these coins fall to these levels

The Mantra example is very good, no one wants to risk the fall that has already passed 90%
When the fall is so deep, it usually indicates a serious problem with the coin, and no one is willing to buy yet, no one thinks that the coin can rise again

Impressive, 0.55 USD right now. ATH was 9.04 USD  :o
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: Gposas on April 21, 2025, 12:12:42 PM

The Mantra example is very good, no one wants to risk the fall that has already passed 90%
When the fall is so deep, it usually indicates a serious problem with the coin, and no one is willing to buy yet, no one thinks that the coin can rise again

Impressive, 0.55 USD right now. ATH was 9.04 USD  :o
Of course mate, the fall is termed "A Great Fall" , take for instance ETH for example that has been in a struggling price trend falls to $10, do you think investors will start buying so quickly if there isn't a sign of a price surge?

The case of OM, I don't think there'll be a buying pressure in any way except the project team brings a pump in price so those affected investors wouldn't go fully empty.
Title: Re: Mantra’s OM Crashes 90% in Bizarre Selloff as Team Alleges 'Forced Liquidations'
Post by: LogitechMouse on April 23, 2025, 05:50:56 AM
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The Mantra example is very good, no one wants to risk the fall that has already passed 90%
When the fall is so deep, it usually indicates a serious problem with the coin, and no one is willing to buy yet, no one thinks that the coin can rise again

Impressive, 0.55 USD right now. ATH was 9.04 USD  :o
I remembered LUNA, Bitconnect, and FTX with this drop. I mean I'm not saying that OM is a scam token just like these 3 projects (at least for now), but the drops on all 4 of them are INSANE, and at the same time, unexpected.

There really is a serious problem with the project, but the good thing is that the CEO is constantly giving updates on his X account to ensure that they will not leave the crypto space and will try to recover from what happened. Usually if this happens, the owner will just admit that they scammed people, or they got hacked, and will be silent. This isn't the case on Mantra. They still want to ensure to their investors that they will not leave and will recover on this one.

A scam isn't a scam until it is, but if I will be asked if I will still buy the coin, I will not of course. :D