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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: ambar33n on July 14, 2018, 11:38:35 PM
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So ones again we have been scammed by another ICO known as Uchit. Now people have started raining insults and curses on the bounty manager that he has led them to be scammed. Despite the numerous apologies from the manager, bounty hunters do not seem to understand. Now my question is, do you think bounty hunters must be blamed when we are scammed because they knew what the ICO was up to, even from the beginning?
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So ones again we have been scammed by another ICO known as Uchit. Now people have started raining insults and curses on the bounty manager that he has led them to be scammed. Despite the numerous apologies from the manager, bounty hunters do not seem to understand. Now my question is, do you think bounty hunters must be blamed when we are scammed because they knew what the ICO was up to, even from the beginning?
Yes, bounty managers are to be blamed for scam ICOs. They need to do their research well about the bounty before they start it.
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So ones again we have been scammed by another ICO known as Uchit. Now people have started raining insults and curses on the bounty manager that he has led them to be scammed. Despite the numerous apologies from the manager, bounty hunters do not seem to understand. Now my question is, do you think bounty hunters must be blamed when we are scammed because they knew what the ICO was up to, even from the beginning?
Yes, bounty managers are to be blamed for scam ICOs. They need to do their research well about the bounty before they start it.
I agree to an extent. There's no real way a bounty manager can know with 100% certainty that the ICO they're working for is a scam. They can do all their due dilligence and it just falls out from under them. I've seen fantastic looking projects go nowhere and be scams, and at the same time I've seen projects that look like a complete joke initially and end up being amazing and making tons of money. There's no way to know for sure, the bounty manager should do some research though to minimize the communities risk. At the same time, the same can be said of bounty hunters, they should do their own research and determine whether or not they want to invest based on that, not based on the word of a bounty manager alone.
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We should have a new regulation about this case. Many Scam ICO happen lately. The people that are involved should get punishment. For me, this case is a serious problem.
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Why shouldn't them be blamed? As a bounty manager you supposed to do a thorough research on a project before you bring it to the table for bounty hunters to follow. You can't just be gullible and bring something which would waste people's time. Time is money you know? And recently it seems scammers are having a field day due to the gullibility of some bounty managers.
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I also participated in some bonus campaigns and did not receive anything. Besides, bonus managers have apologized. I sympathize with them, because they are only invited to manage the campaign and the reward is distributed by the project. The bounty manager has no responsibility for the project refusing to distribute the token to campaign participants.
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I think the campaign manager is not to blame for the fact that the project turned out to be scam, because he is just like us and could not know that everything will end badly.
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It depends who are the managers. If the manager are well known then it is worthy to be blame because bounty hunters put their trust. If the manager is just a beginner, I think we should blame our self and move on.
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So ones again we have been scammed by another ICO known as Uchit. Now people have started raining insults and curses on the bounty manager that he has led them to be scammed. Despite the numerous apologies from the manager, bounty hunters do not seem to understand. Now my question is, do you think bounty hunters must be blamed when we are scammed because they knew what the ICO was up to, even from the beginning?
Well, there are circumstances that bounty managers know from the start that the ICO is a scam and still continue to managed the bounty even if they know it was a scam project, in this case bounty managers can be blamed. However, there are circumstances that the project is doing well and bounty manager is truthful with his work and all and all, but in the end dev team run all the money of the investors, in this case dev team are to blame. So it all depends on the situation.
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Being a bounty manager myself, i would have to say that these things will bound to happen.
There will sure be a scam ico that will approach a guy to ask him to do bounty manager. And if you are new, with an offer like this, i totally can understand why some guys willing to take up even though they do not verify fully. This is because it is such a rare chance, i rather take the risk than to lose a great opportunities.
In addition, if an ico is a legit one with substantial financial backing, they would have gone to more establish service providers, like my company BlockFolks. Ico service providers dont charge cheap, and one of the reason is that they will do their diligence check, meeting up with the dev team to discuss on the roadmap, give advise, have roadshow/meetups/conference to attend etc. That is why people tends to support bounties host by these service providers.
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It's not their faults to indulge you in scam projects. Most of them are like you here on altcoinstalk and they are paid to do their job. In most cases, the managers themselves are being scammed and don't receive anything. they are not to be blamed.
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So ones again we have been scammed by another ICO known as Uchit. Now people have started raining insults and curses on the bounty manager that he has led them to be scammed. Despite the numerous apologies from the manager, bounty hunters do not seem to understand. Now my question is, do you think bounty hunters must be blamed when we are scammed because they knew what the ICO was up to, even from the beginning?
Scam ICO are bound to happen. its just a matter of time before the Dev. team run with all the money they have scanmed.bounty managers are also can be blamed for negligience
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Yes of course, we can blame the bounty manager if the ICO's we joined are scammed,if the ICO's we joined is scammed, because the bounty manager will first know if the project he handles are scam, all the team behind the project should be punished, base on my experience several times I'm also scam here in the world of crypto, now ICO's scams are increasing so we should be careful about joining signature campaigns.
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So ones again we have been scammed by another ICO known as Uchit. Now people have started raining insults and curses on the bounty manager that he has led them to be scammed. Despite the numerous apologies from the manager, bounty hunters do not seem to understand. Now my question is, do you think bounty hunters must be blamed when we are scammed because they knew what the ICO was up to, even from the beginning?
Yes, bounty managers are to be blamed for scam ICOs. They need to do their research well about the bounty before they start it.
I agree to an extent. There's no real way a bounty manager can know with 100% certainty that the ICO they're working for is a scam. They can do all their due dilligence and it just falls out from under them. I've seen fantastic looking projects go nowhere and be scams, and at the same time I've seen projects that look like a complete joke initially and end up being amazing and making tons of money. There's no way to know for sure, the bounty manager should do some research though to minimize the communities risk. At the same time, the same can be said of bounty hunters, they should do their own research and determine whether or not they want to invest based on that, not based on the word of a bounty manager alone.
Found your answer as one of the most logic and reasonable.
Actually, I saw how experienced bounty managers as needmoney and deadly got scammed.
No one can ensure with 100% that a project can make ICO.
Experienced bounty managers do their due diligence and research thoroughly.
But anyways, I found my own solution for the problem. If I found a good quality manager, I always try to participate in campaigns that he/she is launching, thus I'm in little risk of getting scammed, because I know this manager handles his work properly.
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I think it's always different. Sometimes the bounty manager is to blame because he knew that the Scam project, sometimes it is also cheating.
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Being a bounty manager myself, i would have to say that these things will bound to happen.
There will sure be a scam ico that will approach a guy to ask him to do bounty manager. And if you are new, with an offer like this, i totally can understand why some guys willing to take up even though they do not verify fully. This is because it is such a rare chance, i rather take the risk than to lose a great opportunities.
In addition, if an ico is a legit one with substantial financial backing, they would have gone to more establish service providers, like my company BlockFolks. Ico service providers dont charge cheap, and one of the reason is that they will do their diligence check, meeting up with the dev team to discuss on the roadmap, give advise, have roadshow/meetups/conference to attend etc. That is why people tends to support bounties host by these service providers.
In short everyone must have self awareness to do their own responsibilities rightly and not by neglecting and blame the bounty managers.
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We should have a new regulation about this case. Many Scam ICO happen lately. The people that are involved should get punishment. For me, this case is a serious problem.
I can't imagine how is that possible to enforce such law.
You're right about scam ICOs, but now there's no effective way to solve this issue.
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It's not their faults to indulge you in scam projects. Most of them are like you here on altcoinstalk and they are paid to do their job. In most cases, the managers themselves are being scammed and don't receive anything. they are not to be blamed.
Yes, you're right.
There's no guarantee that a project can't turn to be a scam, and most bounty managers do their due diligence properly.
But there are some of bounty managers that knowingly advertise scams may be because they are in pie distribution, too.
Such managers should be banned from forum.
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All errors are in the ico project. bounty manager just runs the task given the ico project. bounty managar error exists if the bounty manager makes a miscalculation of the stake and is unfair in assessing the participants.
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I agree with you. more the bounty manager plays an active role in terms of counting stake and awarding grades weekly. so it's not completely a failure and scam a project due to the bounty manager.
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I think managers should immediately provide an official information about ico when experiencing obstacles and allow for failure so do not make the participants expect bigger against the ico and immediately switch find other ico in order to gain an advantage in the future.
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yes, we can be blamed if we promoting scam ico, but people should understand our position and also cryptocurrency generally, many things turn to scam in crypto world, people should prepare themself, doing their own research etc
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All errors are in the ico project. bounty manager just runs the task given the ico project. bounty managar error exists if the bounty manager makes a miscalculation of the stake and is unfair in assessing the participants.
If project was going to be real, yeah it's ok from bounty management team - there is nothing wrong on bounty management.
But if they do not do their due diligence, if they do not their research and most of all if they knowingly launch bounty campaign of scam project, then such team should not only be blamed, but also banned on forum and not allowed to carry bounty campaigns anymore.
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well the position of bounty manager is same as bounty hunter itself. so i dont think Bonty manager can be blamed on the scam project. he/she has no idea of the bounty itself. people shoul be more proactive to gain information of ICO product.
but, sure their reputation as Bounty Manager will decresed
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well the position of bounty manager is same as bounty hunter itself. so i dont think Bonty manager can be blamed on the scam project. he/she has no idea of the bounty itself. people shoul be more proactive to gain information of ICO product.
but, sure their reputation as Bounty Manager will decresed
Actually, I don't think that bounty management team's position is exactly as bounty hunter's.
Do you mean that if project will be scam they will be like deceived and will get nothing?
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Who else? The bounty hunters blame the manager, manager blame the project owner. My first bounty (not on this forum) suspended after I join for almost two weeks without explanation. I am lucky, I check their ANN thread that day where they add the word SUSPENDED. If not, I still doing my task for that bounty.
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Who else? The bounty hunters blame the manager, manager blame the project owner. My first bounty (not on this forum) suspended after I join for almost two weeks without explanation. I am lucky, I check their ANN thread that day where they add the word SUSPENDED. If not, I still doing my task for that bounty.
For some extent, you are right.
I also have joined a campaign, the thread of which was deleted from bitcointalk entirely. Project team blamed for that bounty management, bounty management blamed project team.
Bounty hunters got deceived and disappointed.
Aftermath the project turned out to be scam.
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So ones again we have been scammed by another ICO known as Uchit. Now people have started raining insults and curses on the bounty manager that he has led them to be scammed. Despite the numerous apologies from the manager, bounty hunters do not seem to understand. Now my question is, do you think bounty hunters must be blamed when we are scammed because they knew what the ICO was up to, even from the beginning?
Yes I agree sometimes bounty hunter did not listen the apologies of campaign admin just like in BPS campaign when the admin adjusted the bounty rewards allocation the bounty hunters got mad and they are making scammed thread to destruct BPS to investors and finally it becomes a scam project.
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Yes of course bounty managers will be blamed into a products cannot be success because of there lucky handling especially the scammers will routine.This is related work of the bounty managers so be careful it people will trusted to all bounty managers.
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So ones again we have been scammed by another ICO known as Uchit. Now people have started raining insults and curses on the bounty manager that he has led them to be scammed. Despite the numerous apologies from the manager, bounty hunters do not seem to understand. Now my question is, do you think bounty hunters must be blamed when we are scammed because they knew what the ICO was up to, even from the beginning?
For me managers also has the responsibilities of reviewing the project very well before accepting it because their reputation is at stakes in which in return it the bounty become a success then for sure they will earn more reputation and they will become more popular of handling a bounty. Its just like your are a manager in a certain restaurant in which you should study well the place and the environment of the business to determine if it will become a success or not because your future reputation will depend on it.
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I think all because of miss communication between participants and manager. I often get bounty like that. such as bounty allocation does not match the bounty participants' prizes and spreadsheets are not shown.
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So ones again we have been scammed by another ICO known as Uchit. Now people have started raining insults and curses on the bounty manager that he has led them to be scammed. Despite the numerous apologies from the manager, bounty hunters do not seem to understand. Now my question is, do you think bounty hunters must be blamed when we are scammed because they knew what the ICO was up to, even from the beginning?
When an ICO turns out to be a scam every party that join this ICO should be blame and not only on one party. We always need two hands to clap, if you think an ICO is a scam you can don't join in the first place.
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Even bounty manager didnt know about the ico they are holding if it is scam or legit we cannot blame them but managers also are aware of it to research about ico they are holding if they think that its scam they the one to tell the moderators to stop it.
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So ones again we have been scammed by another ICO known as Uchit. Now people have started raining insults and curses on the bounty manager that he has led them to be scammed. Despite the numerous apologies from the manager, bounty hunters do not seem to understand. Now my question is, do you think bounty hunters must be blamed when we are scammed because they knew what the ICO was up to, even from the beginning?
Managers should held responsible for a certain ICO project cause there are some bounty hunters idolized bounty managers or happy to follow their campaign. Also for hunters they need to screen properly certain projects search their products and the team behind the project.
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Well, I can say that sometine the fault was not on the bounty manager side, but it just that the rules aren't clear, thus it is hard to accept that those hardwork of our being denied, which mean no stake was given.
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I think managers who already know that ICO is running is indeed a fraud, managers must be responsible and deserve to be blamed.
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Bounty managers often receive payment: money and coins of the company. Therefore, they, like bounty hunters, are interested in the good future of the company. This is a hired worker who only performs work, but is not responsible for the quality of the company itself. There are even very well-known managers who often face companies that do not pay, but the manager himself does not lose popularity.
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So ones again we have been scammed by another ICO known as Uchit. Now people have started raining insults and curses on the bounty manager that he has led them to be scammed. Despite the numerous apologies from the manager, bounty hunters do not seem to understand. Now my question is, do you think bounty hunters must be blamed when we are scammed because they knew what the ICO was up to, even from the beginning?
I don't know about Uchit and also don't want to research about it now. But I think if the manager had apologized, it couldn't be a scam.
There are many reason that make you cannot receive you reward, such as the project failed or it didn't reach the softcap. And these reasons are legal.
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I think that is the right thing, because after all, although IOo is not found the prize must be distributed, and give further information, what is the next step for the manager to maintain the project, if they immediately take it, I even question,
"Is it true that you are making a project? Or just playing around laughing to see us bounty hunters working with gifts that never existed?"
I hope the bounty hunters who take part in the project especially Uchit get clarity about the prizes they will get.
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So ones again we have been scammed by another ICO known as Uchit. Now people have started raining insults and curses on the bounty manager that he has led them to be scammed. Despite the numerous apologies from the manager, bounty hunters do not seem to understand. Now my question is, do you think bounty hunters must be blamed when we are scammed because they knew what the ICO was up to, even from the beginning?
Yes, I think We can blame bounty manager if the bounty program is scams.
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Bounty managers cannot be blamed entirely on the existence of a scam ICO. The task of BM is the same as ours, which is to promote the ICO project that was joined. It's the difference, BM are bridges between bounty hunters and the dev / ICO team. Not only we been deceived by a scam project, BM has also been deceived from time, energy and BM found a name that was not good for crypto users as managers.
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That is the unwanted things to happen with regards of bounty manager and the project result. Managers does not want to be blame because they are also the first affective no matter what will be the result of the project. They have bigger and heavy burder than us.