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Learning & News => For Beginners => Basic Questions about Cryptos => Topic started by: xspasa on August 31, 2018, 04:41:19 AM
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I have been trying to figure out why some tokens set at appreciable price begin to decline in value after some time once listed on exchange. The idea which came into my mind was the fact that, some people dump the tokens resulting in decline in token value. I thought about this and tried to make an analysis on bounty hunters and investors in possession of tokens being responsible for decline in token value. I want to know, bounty hunters and investors, which of these two groups are responsible for decline in token values after tokens have been listed on exchanges and why?
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Both. Both of them causes the decline in price because they are all after profit. But it's the bounty hunters who is the mostly one to dump their token which causes some dump in price . Given the fact bounty hunters didn't invest anything to the token they can dump anytime because they have nothing to lose while the investors can't dump their coin without getting back their investment and making profit of it.
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I don't think both of them responsible for that. Everybody want and loves profit, if the project have a good prospect I think the token price will be good too.
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Bounty hunters and Investors, both have a role in reducing the price of tokens. If the investor and bounty dispose of the token, the price of the token will automatically drop. This is not a secret, and no one has to be responsible for situations like this.
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I have been trying to figure out why some tokens set at appreciable price begin to decline in value after some time once listed on exchange. The idea which came into my mind was the fact that, some people dump the tokens resulting in decline in token value. I thought about this and tried to make an analysis on bounty hunters and investors in possession of tokens being responsible for decline in token value. I want to know, bounty hunters and investors, which of these two groups are responsible for decline in token values after tokens have been listed on exchanges and why?
You cant really blame the bounty hunters for the current price down of a specific token or a coin. Because the bounty hunters got a smaller portion of token allocation compared to those major investors.
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Bounty Hunters and investors, reduce the price of the token when it is listed on the stock exchange. This I personally noticed. And then this price does not rise almost never. Now there are no such projects that have great prospects (
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I have been trying to figure out why some tokens set at appreciable price begin to decline in value after some time once listed on exchange. The idea which came into my mind was the fact that, some people dump the tokens resulting in decline in token value. I thought about this and tried to make an analysis on bounty hunters and investors in possession of tokens being responsible for decline in token value. I want to know, bounty hunters and investors, which of these two groups are responsible for decline in token values after tokens have been listed on exchanges and why?
Bounty hunters holds only from 1%-2% of the total tokens which is very small amount of tokens so I think the most that can influence resulting the market price to decline is the investors it's because investors are the one who holds the big amount of token.
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Both, There are some bounty hunters who's really dumping a tokens or coins from bounty after they received it but there's also some investors who's the reason behind those dumps on that different tokens and coins.
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I have been trying to figure out why some tokens set at appreciable price begin to decline in value after some time once listed on exchange. The idea which came into my mind was the fact that, some people dump the tokens resulting in decline in token value. I thought about this and tried to make an analysis on bounty hunters and investors in possession of tokens being responsible for decline in token value. I want to know, bounty hunters and investors, which of these two groups are responsible for decline in token values after tokens have been listed on exchanges and why?
I support both. I invest for long term , with ethereum and I also participate in bounty campaign.
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You can't blame both. because there are also bounty hunters who become holders without selling tokens that have been received.
And investors are also unlikely to sell them when they are registered in the market. because investors have a goal before high prices they will never sell it.
Actually, what affects prices is the project. if the project has a good goal and the token is functioning it will definitely rise in price.
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Market conditions and the amount of bonuses and airdrops given that make a price drop occur in the ico token. The good thing to do to keep the value of ico tokens is not to sell cheaply when listed on the exchange.
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Ignore bounty hunters, they very rarely hold anything more than between 1-3% of tokens/coins. Another factor, which I don't think you mentioned, is the founders/employees. They tend to have a decent portion of the overall proportion, although admittedly generally tied up for the first 12-18 months. Anyway, pretty sure that the market is just generally under preforming at the moment. Give it another 6 months or so, and hopefully you'll have a smile on your face.
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I think the early investor make the token value decrease when listed on the exchange,they buy cheaply and get a lot of bonuses, they can't wait to take profit.While for the bounty hunters only get a small of the total token in circulation,so it doesnot really affect the price in the market.
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I don't think the little tokens allocated to bounty is enough to cause a token's price decline when sold. The main problem I believe is the investors. Remember the investors are given bonuses as an added incentive for them to invest in the token. If these investors for whatever reason lost faith in the token, the next move is to dump it. When this happens, automatically the price drops.
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Bounty Hunters and buyers, reduce the price of the token when it is indexed at the inventory change. This I in my view noticed. and then this charge does now not rise almost in no way. Now there are no such tasks which have first-rate possibilities.
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I used to align withth8s assertion until recently when I discovered to the contrary that bounty hunters are actually innocent of causing token price decline.
You would agree with me that most bounties do not usually distribute rewards to bounty hunters early .....hunters receive token long after the tokens are listed .
So how will they cause decline when investors receive tokens before hunters?
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Both affect the market because both parties are willing to sell their assets. But bounty Hunter do more harm than investors. A bounty Hunter can sell his tokens as low as 100% of the ICO Price which make me to think that they aren't making sense at all
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No one is to be blame because all are in for profit. The bounty hunters invested there time and investor invested their money. When token is already launched in market they all go out there to get some profit.
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The idea which came into my mind was the fact that, some people dump the tokens resulting in decline in token value. I thought about this and tried to make an analysis on bounty hunters and investors in possession of tokens being responsible for decline in token value. I want to know, bounty hunters and investors, which of these two groups are responsible for decline in token values after tokens have been listed on exchanges and why?
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I think it's definitely private investors who have caused the biggest decline. These investors are taking very cheaply as soon as they enter the stock market. Loaded amounts cause the price to be affected.
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if investors buy at IKO, then they must be sure that the price with access to the exchange will be even lower, this is a great opportunity to buy at a lower price, but if the coin falls all the time, it means that there were no fees, this is my opinion.
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I think the decline in price is been caused by the two party , the investors and bounty hunters.
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I think that bounty hunters and investors do not play a big role in reducing prices in the market. To a greater extent, the situation in the market ( a downtrend) and the idea of the project, which does not interest the society and a small number of investors, plays on the decline in token prices.
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It depends on the team dev's strategy in dividing the tokens on the bounty hunter, if the percentage is shared large then the possibility of a dump after distribution can occur, but if there are other strategies to anticipate this, dump can be minimized. Today's investors also think they will lose quickly in selling bounty hunters and they also contribute to price reductions after market listings
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I think the early investor makes the token esteem diminish when recorded on the trade, they purchase inexpensively and get a considerable measure of rewards, they can hardly wait to take benefit.
while for the bounty hunters just get a little of the aggregate token available for use, so it doesn't generally influence the cost in the market.
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More investors causing the price fall. Because the composition of the bounty allocation is only slightly than the ICO that is invested bought. But it's always a bounty hunter to blame in the price of decline. Because this is an easy thing to blame the other side.
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I am sure the decline cannot be caused by both bounty hunters and investors (average investors). They don't have enough power to reduce the prices on long time period. I think the whales and developers or the teams of projects have more chance to decrease the prices yet they have a power to do that.
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both are guilty because its all about profit making. bounty hunters are just after on thing,profits. they usually dont have time to nurture a token,once its on exchange, it gotta go. Investors may nurture a while and dump . both are guilty
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Bounty hunters have no control over the coins...although if the token has a low capitalization, it can be pumped in the short term.Everything else depends on large investors and regulators.
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I have been trying to figure out why some tokens set at appreciable price begin to decline in value after some time once listed on exchange. The idea which came into my mind was the fact that, some people dump the tokens resulting in decline in token value. I thought about this and tried to make an analysis on bounty hunters and investors in possession of tokens being responsible for decline in token value. I want to know, bounty hunters and investors, which of these two groups are responsible for decline in token values after tokens have been listed on exchanges and why?
I think the reasin that causes a decline in tokens prices is bad project. Not bounty hunters. I have seen since 2017, If the project is not interesting, It will not success.
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Both of them causes the decline in price because they are all after profit. But it's the bounty hunters who is the mostly one to dump their token which causes some dump in price . Given the fact bounty hunters didn't invest anything to the token they can dump anytime because they have nothing to lose while the investors can't dump their coin without getting back their investment and making profi
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I am sure the decline cannot be caused by both bounty hunters and investors (average investors). They don't have enough power to reduce the prices on long time period. I think the whales and developers or the teams of projects have more chance to decrease the prices yet they have a power to do that.
It is perfectly true. I am also doubt if the decline was caused by bounty hunters and investors. Why not to think the problem is on the whales or teams of the project itself. They have most of the tokens, they can dump the prices easily.
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Personally, as a bounty hunter, I can tell you that many do not sell their coins, which is why 1-5% of which they stand out, when selling reach a maximum of 0.5%.
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In my opinion, in this case, bounty hunters cannot be completely blamed. It all depends on the situation and conditions
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The fall in prices occurs for several reasons and one of the main reasons is the overvaluation of project tokens during the ICO and the unprofessional work of the team that does not care about the trading volumes of their token and its price.
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Most of the hunters are dumping the coin as soon as they got it. But we should be aware of the situation that there is a very limited percentage which hunters get. So, most probably investors are dumping, well, most of them at least.
Also, there are whales who wants to buy that coin cheaper, so they are starting a dumping war, and buying low.
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I think that the big market issue is the low liquidity of related to the high number of projects and therefore of tokens listed.
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Investors, as the number of investers is higher than the bounty hunters, but mainly lack of practical participants.
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I think both of them are responsible for the decline in token. Most of the bounty hunters dump their token after receiving. As well as some investors who dump their tokens due to some reasons.
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Token prices will fall not for bounty hunters but for lack of investors... bounty allocation is ofter not more than 2% of entire quantity of tokens so this can't be the cause unless many ICO team will use this as excuse....
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I have been trying to figure out why some tokens set at appreciable price begin to decline in value after some time once listed on exchange. The idea which came into my mind was the fact that, some people dump the tokens resulting in decline in token value. I thought about this and tried to make an analysis on bounty hunters and investors in possession of tokens being responsible for decline in token value. I want to know, bounty hunters and investors, which of these two groups are responsible for decline in token values after tokens have been listed on exchanges and why?
Dont get me wrong, I'm a bounty hunter too but the answer for this question is obviously most of the bounty hunters but not all. No investor will sell their tokens/coins on a lesser price. They invest on the project because they believe it in them for long term.
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I am sure that either the bounty hunters or the investors both have black sheep hiding inside. We cannot blame them as well there is a possibility that they are following their strategy by taking what they have when the coin have make certain percentage of profits.
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I used to think that bounty hunters were the ones causing price decline on listing of a token in an exchange....
Now I can state caterigorically that it is investors, mostly the private investors who bought tokens at a discount are the ones causing the price decline.
This is because, nowadays, bounty managers don't usually release the reward of bounty hunters immediately their token is listed.
Still price will decline even when bounty hunters haven't yet received their rewards.
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No one is responsible for decreasing the value or price of the token because until now there will be a new project that will become a competitor for a really good project.
The price of a token is set by the number of requests, if the request from many tokens will directly increase the price of the token you have
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Of course, bounty hunters have an impact on the price of the token after it has entered the stock exchange, but I believe that the price drop of the tokens is due to the fact that project teams unsold tokens are selling below the price they received during the ICO.
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Investors have a greater effect on lowering the price of a new token, which first appears on the stock exchange. Many investors buy new tokens at a 50 percent discount and immediately sell them at the ICO price as soon as they appear on the exchange. Profit is 200 percent.
Headhunters here have a more modest influence. They get for their work only a few percent of tokens produced - from 0.5 to 5 percent. When new tokens fall into their wallets, new tokens have long been traded on the stock exchange and have fallen in price. Therefore, they can not greatly influence the price reduction of the token.
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These days both investors and bounty hunters are doing the same thing to the new projects, many investors even dump on the exchanges before bounty hunters get paid.
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Let's talk about who is the larger coin holder and who is more inclined to sell assets at this stage?
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I think that rich investors can affect the market, especially when they buy a big number of coins or sell it.
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I thought about this and tried to make an analysis on bounty hunters and investors in possession of tokens being responsible for decline in token value. I want to know, bounty hunters and investors, which of these two groups are responsible for decline in token values after tokens have been listed on exchanges and why?
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I can say that both causes decline in token price.
Take for instance when a project refused distributing token to bounty hunters but distributed to investors and immediately the token is listed on an exchange the price declined miserably.
Can you say it's bounty hunters who have not even received their rewards?
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Investors have more opportunities to influence the price reduction of a new token after it is transferred to the stock exchange. Many investors, having bought new tokens with a maximum discount, immediately sell them at the ICO price after entering the stock exchange, while receiving almost double profit. Bounty hunters receive a few percent of the total number of tokens and when they are distributed into wallets, as a rule, the new token has already dropped in price by that time.
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I have never blamed the bounty hunter. market conditions, residents and sales bonuses that make the price of a coin or token experience a large drop. If the market conditions and people are good, I'm sure the price will be stable.
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I don't think if bounty hunters or common investors as the actors to make the decline on market. They don't have strong power to manipulate prices on long period. Whales or the team behind the crypto coins are more likely to cause the decline. It is my own opinion related this question.
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Investors who make all price reductions due to bounty hunters are only allocated to sell tokens at around 1-2% of tokens.
If the decrease in token when launching in an exchange exceeds 2%, then surely it is done by investors.
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I have been trying to figure out why some tokens set at appreciable price begin to decline in value after some time once listed on exchange. The idea which came into my mind was the fact that, some people dump the tokens resulting in decline in token value. I thought about this and tried to make an analysis on bounty hunters and investors in possession of tokens being responsible for decline in token value. I want to know, bounty hunters and investors, which of these two groups are responsible for decline in token values after tokens have been listed on exchanges and why?
It is good advice. I think Investor is causes a decline in tokens price. But I think investor is priority causes decline. It is my opinion.
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I know that on forums like stories that bounty hunters possess a large number of coins that can influence the course very much, but it's not.
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If we talk from the standpoint of financial literacy, we can say with confidence that investors sell much more coins at the start than bounty hunters.
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Both bounty hunters and investors cause a decline in token prices but mostly bounty hunters. Most Bounty hunters sell off at any little profit or even when the token is listed below ico price because they didn't invest money, just time was invested. Investors on the other hand, sell only when there is profit no matter how little, they won't sell at a loss or below the price it was bought.
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I personally communicated with investors and bounty hunters and I can say with full confidence that both groups of people sell coins at the start.
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Bounty hunters can easily wait for the period of Ath coins, but investors want to sell everything very quickly and earn.
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Investors have a greater effect on lowering the price of a new token, which first appears on the stock exchange. Many investors buy new tokens at a 50 percent discount and immediately sell them at the ICO price as soon as they appear on the exchange. Profit is 200 percent.
Headhunters here have a more modest influence. They get for their work only a few percent of tokens produced - from 0.5 to 5 percent. When new tokens fall into their wallets, new tokens have long been traded on the stock exchange and have fallen in price. Therefore, they can not greatly influence the price reduction of the token.
Yes, they usually have more tokens compared to bounty hunters. The bigger volume on sell orders comes from them
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For me I think is the investors in the sense that when they refuses to invest definitely there must be stagnation and decline in token price will occur.
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Neither of them can cause huge decline I think.
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The problem of falling prices of tokens of any project is that the project team does not take any action to maintain the price of the demand of its token at a high level, does not help him not to fall in price. There are projects whose teams are developing a strategy to support the price of their token on the stock exchange and this suggests that the team is thinking about investors and about the future of their token.