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Title: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: troll on October 28, 2017, 04:53:07 PM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: rahul10948 on October 29, 2017, 09:33:18 AM
may be yes...criminals always find a way to bypass the security...
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Ikkelins on May 22, 2018, 08:00:27 AM
This is a funny question because it can be answered on two side.

first of all we have these highly sophisticated criminals who rob or steal monies or engage in high profile activities. With them they have the technological know how to use cryptos in their dealings thereby making them elude the security of the banks in case they are making a huge transfer of money after a successful operation. If they were to make this transaction in the bank there is the possiblity of them being caught. But in the case of bitcoin and any other altcoins, transferring money on the crypto platform does not need the services of central banks hence they can make their transactions safely without being caught.

But let's take a look at these robbers on the street and those who don't have any knowledge in bitcoin. An individual could be very rich but yet might not hold much fiat currency on him and so in the eyes of the robber such a person is broke and therefore they don't need to waste their time on them. If most people were to get into the using of bitcoin or any other coins then finally the robbers in that area will come to a final conclusion that the city in which they are is broke therefore they need to relocate leaving the people in peace. if this situation was to happen in several places then you can be rest assured that the robbers will go broke out of lack of operations and finally get something better to do.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Dacosta on May 24, 2018, 11:59:04 PM
They were made super rich not because they were ordinary robbers but because they grabbed the opportunity that came their way
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: ach64 on May 25, 2018, 12:07:38 AM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?
First of all I don't know how true your first claim is, that it was criminals who adopted Bitcoin, and secondly even if that was to be true it doesn't necessarily mean they got rich at that time or now. Anyways we have to know the kind of people who are HODLing the large chunk of BTC and that will help us draw a better conclusion
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Markjay11 on May 25, 2018, 04:00:15 AM
It is too hard to predict that question because no one knows can answer exactly.But on my own maybe because other criminals are poor and did not know about a digital or cryptocurrency but the other criminals are rich people that have financial or the other one is they have a agent that free to go on or roaming and knew about currency to gave a supply of needed on criminals.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: TERMINO on May 25, 2018, 02:41:44 PM
Sadly to think that criminals can provide another way to use bitcoin in illegal way. Deep web is not for simple person because it is all for elite about that system. Only people who have access of that are the big one's.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Duavent21 on May 26, 2018, 01:23:26 AM
I thinks is yes because criminals is always find a way to sustain there criminal activity. If they use bitcoin in illegal activity all of them are reacher and more powerful.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: silentcrypto on May 26, 2018, 05:42:46 AM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?
yes of course because they can do what they want on it because its decentralize everyone is allow to enter this kind of transaction.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: MelchiZedek on May 26, 2018, 06:39:15 AM
This question is dicey. Everyone has the chance to get along with an opportunity that promise to solve financial crises in the world. If you are smart enough to carry along with the opportunity and it realizes fruition, it doesn't matter whether you are criminal or not, you will be more richer.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Pheonyx on May 26, 2018, 09:11:15 AM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?
I will only believe this if you can provide us any link that can support to this statement. Of course we couldn't deny that criminals can make money in bitcoin since it is decentralized but the possibility without a proof will just only be an assumption.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Methos on May 28, 2018, 05:12:51 AM
We never know. Only bitcoin knows it's investors.  ;D
But honestly where did you get this idea? Do you have any reference for this?
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Alcor on May 29, 2018, 01:46:07 AM
Statistics have already appeared that due to the fact that bitcoin is only semi-anonymous, it was used for illegal purposes in no more than ten percent of cases. Criminals mostly use coins with a high level of anonymity - Monero, ZCash, Dash. It is these coins that now Japan wants to remove from circulation, because they are most often used by criminals.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Alpha on May 29, 2018, 07:05:44 AM
Suppose these criminals are not a low profile person but they are high value target person by the government. Decentralized system of bitcoin is what criminals grab to do transaction.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: u01p113 on June 05, 2018, 05:15:33 PM
 Bitcoin didn't make criminals richer it gave the tool to transfer their money easier, and as a result, criminals became more powerful. But I don't think it will go on for long.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Contagem on June 20, 2018, 09:43:38 PM
Criminals successfully use dollars and drug dealers also prefer cash. The media exaggerate the negative information about Bitcoin to blacken it, and people start to believe it. We all know why they do it.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Saiful wae on June 21, 2018, 12:18:37 PM
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Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: sugarchrisp on June 22, 2018, 04:37:59 AM
I think maybe to a small extent it did, but criminals don't really need other mediums of currency to make money.  It probably made it slightly easier in some ways, and harder in other ways.  I know it was probably a huge hassle to try and talk other criminal organizations to trade with BTC instead of cash, since as a new concept a lot of people consider it just a flash in the pan and will be gone in a few years.  Other than that, I don't think it gives criminals any extra advantage different than having vast sums of cash on hand would.  Having lots of money always seems to be advantageous in any situation, and crime is likely no exception.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: AnneAbas on June 22, 2018, 04:48:22 AM
I am not sure but maybe ,but we can't call them criminals if they were just investing or maybe some of them are our investors.I think they just wanted to help because they know that our government will not accept this cryptocurrency that maybe one of the reasons why bitcoin made them richer or more powerful, but they just wanted to help the people.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Niteroy on July 01, 2018, 05:46:30 PM
Whenever a so-called ‘expert’, official, or other talking head starts pontificating on the evils of Bitcoin, one argument that never fails to get trotted out is how people are using Bitcoin to hide their money from the government. That argument, of course, usually segues in with the “Bitcoin is cryptocurrency of preference for criminals and Very Bad People” argument. But Bitcoin wasn’t designed to hide wealth from the government. It was designed to allow people to control their own wealth. There is a difference. And frankly, if anonymity is a user’s primary concern, there are far more privacy-centric cryptocurrencies out there. Bitcoin is hardly anonymous – in fact, there is an entire growing industry dedicated to tracking transactions.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Jaguar on July 01, 2018, 08:28:07 PM
Actually I don't have any accurate info regarding this matter but it is possible because bitcoin is decentralized. Everyone can be the next millionaires whether criminals or normal citizens. I hope the criminals won't do anymore offensive action so that no more innocents will die because of them.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: therozaq on July 02, 2018, 04:29:52 AM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?


It is possible mate. Every criminal can happen in every where and every time. Not only in bitcoin.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Mocosolawatan on July 02, 2018, 04:37:26 AM
if that's what I really do not believe if bitcoin makes a criminal get rich and strong.
but that we can not blame the bitcoin world. but that should be blamed is pengunaya why they are investing in bitcoin as a crime place .
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Cangkirkopi on July 02, 2018, 10:18:20 AM
I think not because the person who participated bitcoin his data is complete so the criminals will not easily participate in investing bitcoin gan
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: nrubnach on July 02, 2018, 12:41:43 PM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?
I don't think also that criminals are the first user of Bitcoin.  In fact Bitcoin aren't made for them. Just like fiat they used it as a medium for their illegal deeds. These criminals are already rich because of their business. Bitcoin maybe helped them not easily caught which may made them richer.  But sooner or later,  they will be slowly caught.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: CryptoZenWorld on July 02, 2018, 01:31:22 PM
I think bitcoin is a great invention. See every invention has good and bad side. For example dynamite.. Dynamite was invented by Alfred Novel.Dynamite is now using for both good and bad purpose. Though it is a great invention. As same as bitcoin is also using like that..but to prevent criminals we must stop their production of products or services not the bitcoin..If we stop these activities, then there will no criminals to use bitcoin.. But this is our bad luck that we couldn't do that....  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Raboni on July 02, 2018, 03:25:16 PM
When we say dark web we can absolutely find out uncommon information stored. Criminals can do negotiating but I don't think that bitcoin is their main source to support their plan. There are other ways that they couldn't be trace such as something illegal.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Mbah Jenggot on July 03, 2018, 02:53:13 AM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?

It can happen, because bitcoin is anonymous. It can be used illegal activites.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: dekafee79 on July 03, 2018, 03:56:31 PM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?

Yes maybe it happen. I think It is possible because bitcoin is pseudo anonymous, the transactions can be tracked.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Master107 on July 03, 2018, 04:11:32 PM
When we say decentralized it means no government presence in it. Bitcoin is decentralized touch me not by the government. There is a possibility that criminals got rich because of bitcoin but still we can't pin point them for no records about bitcoin.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: rizqillah on July 04, 2018, 06:09:25 AM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?

It is possible, because bitcoin is safe. Your ID and transactions cannot be tracked by government.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Cangkirkopi on July 04, 2018, 06:37:53 AM
Criminals will not be easy to invest in because those who participated bitcoin the person who really he was a good man and complete his identity
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: ach64 on July 04, 2018, 10:55:56 AM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?
First of all I don't believe it's true the criminals took hold of Bitcoin in the early stages. Even if they did
 that, they would've done so to facilitate transactions and not to hold. Those who held and are now rich are those who believed in the technology that it'd stay for some more time.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Ahmadamin12 on July 04, 2018, 06:44:08 PM
Jikalau penjahat lebih kuat saya rasa tidak ya siapa sih yang mau jadi penjahat kalau dia sudah kaya
Siapa sih yang mau di hukum kecuali orang2 yang tidak punya pri kemanusiaan
Dan tidak mungkin seorang penjahat ikut investasi ke crypto perdagangan digital karena biasanya penjahat itu identitas nya tidak lengkap
Apakah bisa kalau seorang yang tidak punya identitas lengkap untuk mengikuti masuk berinvestasi di perdagangan digital?
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: trofim21 on July 07, 2018, 10:33:30 PM
well, it just gave a lot of cheaters a way for extra money
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Doctor on July 08, 2018, 04:55:41 AM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?

Yes It can. Bitcoin is pseudo anonymous, your Identify is secure. The transactions cannot be tracked.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Fighter01 on July 08, 2018, 10:04:26 AM
For me bitcoin is not a cost of the crime but bitcoin make us to get money and for what we need in every day in life style for that money, if we use that money to control people and that's a choose of the others to make her and his make a criminal's.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: ubay on July 09, 2018, 12:14:31 PM
Of course not, criminals are still criminals whatever the reason. He can get rich quick and get poor quickly, it's because of his own act. Evil people will always get bad karma, only some of them get good karma.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Syantik on July 09, 2018, 06:44:39 PM
Actually bitcoin can provide an opportunity for someone to change his fate to be better than before because by investing they can earn income and directly the economy becomes helpful but the devastating impact that comes when the government can not make a strict rule about the bitcoin of crimes can happen at any time.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: SuccessManiac on July 12, 2018, 09:32:03 PM
It could be that it made them rich because a lot of people have become rich as a result of Bitcoins. But that doesn't mean Bitcoin is for criminals, it provides opportunity for everyone to become rich.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: doc on July 13, 2018, 02:15:36 AM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?

Yes I think It possible. Because Bitcoin is easier transaction and secure. Your identify cannot be tracked.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Polisi tidur on July 13, 2018, 05:22:19 AM
if we get the results of the bitcoin to eat do not use the wrong income, use the bitcoin income with a positive and also in the tube for the future.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: divine75 on July 13, 2018, 01:42:19 PM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?

actualy bitcoins is  not been used in in some illegal activities likes criminals ,drugs,ISIS funding or become services over the dark web,maybe there's is instances thats it can be used in crimes,because its not legal,but  there is no proper proof thats it can be connect to illegal activities.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Wong keras on July 13, 2018, 04:18:15 PM
it's true Bitcoin makes rich criminals and also how to make transactions easier for negative things, but not all bitcoins are used for the negative, I use bitcoin for positive things and if I get bitcoin I will tube
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: cryptothief on July 14, 2018, 12:06:11 AM
At least if Bitcoin made criminals filthy rich, they should be less likely to look for ways to steal someone else's hard earned money, rather sitting on a beach in the Caribbean somewhere. I doubt many criminal masterminds made a fortune, the whole point of it for them was to spend it anonymously, so unlikely any amassed a huge fortune, although I'm sure some must have done with the law of averages. I heard about Bitcoin about 5 years ago, but unfortunately never did anything about it.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: felixesteban on July 14, 2018, 01:13:37 AM
There have been a lot of stolen cases, and it will happen. But there are similar cases for fiat currencies as well, so we need data to compare it. Crypto currency contains a lot of security elements and most cases happened because of user based errors.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Anti frustasi on July 15, 2018, 07:20:25 PM
I think not everybody is using the bitcoin as it is because income when investing is needed to get the economic system to be better than before without having to violate government regulations that have been determined.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: trofim21 on July 25, 2018, 11:18:49 AM
for swindlers, of course, this new kind of money laundering, they can not be tracked in any way
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Mntree on July 25, 2018, 01:12:46 PM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?
If you talked about the criminal which is the hacker and it's a big ues.Many intelectual hacker makes their life so progressive because of the ability to hacked us.So sad for this.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Breadwinner on July 25, 2018, 01:19:09 PM
I think it has made criminals rich indeed because those that involve themselves in scamming has in the long way round has gotten money through that and I think those criminals has now become powerful
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Nanagyasi on July 25, 2018, 02:42:23 PM
Btc was opened to everyone just that many were skeptical and so those who joined earlier have benefited more from their bold decision.
I don't think Btc has made bad guys more powerful because they were powerful and had their own money even without btc
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Abdee on August 14, 2018, 09:39:40 AM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?

bitcoin can be used to fund a crime if the crypto currency falls into the hands of a criminal, because bitcoin is currently anonymous
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: Variapack on October 17, 2018, 08:22:31 AM
crypto currency can be used as an act of crime if it falls into the hands of an evil person, one example is for money laundering because the crypto currency is currently anonymous so it is difficult to trace its owner
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: cashbit on October 17, 2018, 09:23:24 AM
Can I like that. We all will not understand because this is a decentralized system. So we can't see someone's activities in making transactions and others in this Crypto world. Hopefully not so and Crypto still has a good image in the eyes of the public.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: legend45 on October 17, 2018, 11:56:07 AM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?

I think criminal can happen in every where. So They can use bitcoun to do that. It is my opinion.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: fgg57fg7 on October 17, 2018, 12:54:37 PM
I don't thinks so maybe the riches criminal  will do to support thier needs ...but i think they More powerful when they invest a bitcion...we're knowing already what bitcion goes  in our lives if they much profit specifically they're criminal. .
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: ipanks on October 17, 2018, 01:00:51 PM
The first adopters of bitcoin were the criminals selling drugs, weapons and illegal services over the dark web.
Did bitcoin make these scum bags super rich ?

I guess so, but we don't know the truth, and I never visit the dark web because I heard from my friend that on the dark web, we need to very careful. But I know that bitcoin price is making many people getting richer because they sold the bitcoin at the high price in December last year. So I only the truth about that.
Title: Re: Did Bitcoin make criminals richer and more powerful ?
Post by: 212 on October 17, 2018, 03:29:43 PM
I agree when bitcoin is able to make someone rich. because I have found evidence of it. but to the subject can make criminals more powerful, I do not understand this. If it is true it is, certainly is unfortunate.