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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: Turbo Hammer on September 22, 2018, 12:29:06 PM
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do whales buy and sell with themselves in coordination to manipulate prices? how does it work?
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As far as I know, whales work in groups. They make negative issues to make investors panic so they sell coins at low prices. After that, they can pocket coins at low prices to sell coins at high prices.
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The WHALES group usually plays a role in the process of pump and dump in the market. Because they eat starting a purchase that will make the price up. And at the time someone else took buy after them and the price increased, they will soon sell it after profit. After that will buy back when the price falls because of panic in the market.
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It is very possible, but we cannot claim it yet we have no proofs. Whales are a group of people that work together in order to gain profits on market. As they have funds, capital, and power, actually they can manipulate market with buy-sell themselves. Unfortunately, we have no proofs so far.
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I do not think that most of the whales are working together to manipulate the market. But it is obvious that some whales make operation to manipulate prices of some coins-tokens. Small investors should be cautious about their operations.
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If you happen to watch a live trading, try to monitor the buy or sell orders. Sometimes you see a large order to trigger pump or dump but when it's about to be taken, it suddenly disappears. That's how manipulation is usually done based on my observation.
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It is very possible, but we cannot claim it yet we have no proofs. Whales are a group of people that work together in order to gain profits on market. As they have funds, capital, and power, actually they can manipulate market with buy-sell themselves. Unfortunately, we have no proofs so far.
Even if there is proof, what can be done? When the market is manipulated, some gain while some loss. But I do not think the market movement is entirely due to it been manipulated. I believe that the high and low demand factor play a huge role.
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I think the big whale hunters are spreading the bad news so prices will drop. When bullish, there will be a lot of good news. I am sure that is the concept they apply.
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I think it is quite possible that the whales or big investors buy and sell with themselves in coordination to manipulate. May be they work in group to gain profit from the market . They also spread the good and bad news which also affect the market conditions.
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Whales buy coins in large quantities and when people see growth begin to invest the maximum that they can afford, when the price reaches the desired limit, they drop their coins!
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Yes, this happens, but a bit part of those huge red candles is due to stop-losses kicking in once certain levels are reached.
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Yes, I have panicked when I saw a very large order with a high purchase price, but until now I have never participated in that situation because I would get a loss if we are not careful and see low buy orders in just a few hours after all happen.
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I don't really know how they cooperate together. But I agree if they work together, I heard that they have some clubs called whales clubs. People with big power and capitals work together are very possible to manipulate market.
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I think that no one knows the exact strategies, approximately you understand everything correctly, the whole market is controlled by large players, and when they need them, they either lower it or raise it when no one expects it .
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It is so true that whale is very influential in manipulating prices, which now applies in the crypto market, and that I think is legitimate and there is no prohibition to regulate it, indeed in the cryptocurrency market is full of risks.
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They will buy in large volumes first, and when investors or other traders know that there is an upward trend and then make a purchase. When FOMO takes place, whales will start reselling assets that have been purchased at lower prices. And usually they are in a group.
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do whales buy and sell with themselves in coordination to manipulate prices? how does it work?
Yes it is same like admins if telegram pump groups, but whales has more funds and they do it toghter and it is coordinated moves.
How that work i have no idea. But telgram pump groups i know how.
In telegram admins of groups will have a secret group only for admins they choose a coin and the will buy it before any body after they will annouce it in thier groups and later on they pump thier members.
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They may do that way to manipulate prices on market. They work together and they are experienced people. They can set sell order and their friend buy the tokens or coins. However, it is very unfair way to control the prices.
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To explain how the whales manipulate prices in the market is very complicated, but certainly whale has very large crypto assets so that they can manipulate prices in their own way so that they benefit from the price manipulation.
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do whales buy and sell with themselves in coordination to manipulate prices? how does it work?
I am sure there are whales group that will be doing this but there are other whales good at spotting potential ICO and with a long term strategy they are making folds on the right ICO.
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Manipulation is not always made manual or by whales groups, sometimes big bots help manipulate the price in not a direct way. When whales manipulate the market the spike is instant and the graph is so obvious usually whales manipulation result in pumps and dumps this is the way they make fast money with.
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Whale runs according to the basic trading system, they will not sell and buy carelessly. In the crypto world, which is still new, the effect is quite large, different from forex and stocks.
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I don't think whales buy and sell with themselves in coordination to manipulate the price of XYZ coin. I can say they can manipulate to some extent but ultimately price decided by the demand of XYZ coin whales can not force the every trader to act as they want. There are groups they pump and dump the coins but I mostly notice when they pump any coin the trading volume of the coin is not too much. Ultimately I can say whales can not control the market for long time manipulation can be done for shorter time only.
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Manipulators with huge amounts of money manipulate the market, they begin to raise the price of any token and then sharply kill the price of this token, and they false actions also do with the capitalization of the cryptocurrency market.
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do whales buy and sell with themselves in coordination to manipulate prices? how does it work?
I think its just only a speculation and no concrete evidence to support this theory, if im a whale i dont try to risk some of my funds just to make the price increase in a short period its very risky and dangerous of losing my funds. thats why in my own point of view its not true!
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Well we also believed that they are doing that kind of thing too. I guess because it's either they want to have more coins on cheap prices or they are just getting more profit by doing it.
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The whales are working together, but there's no way we can prove it. They do it neatly, gracefully, if I may say so.
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If you happen to watch a live trading, try to monitor the buy or sell orders. Sometimes you see a large order to trigger pump or dump but when it's about to be taken, it suddenly disappears. That's how manipulation is usually done based on my observation.
yes I do observe this fake orders, that will make some one know their is a manipulation going on. but the question is in this case how to buy/sell and join whales? is that possible.
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I don't think we need to concern ourselves with how whales manipulate the market. There is almost nothing we can do to end this. We just have to learn to tab into the positive side and refuse to fall for their actions.
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Well it is simple for them. You can even see that on some telegram channels, whale alerts I mean. Whales signal each other for dumping and pumping the prices by sending each other small btc. Then they make the dump or pump at the same time to create FUD or FOMO for fishes.
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On any exchange you can see the purchase and sale from themselves. It creates volume and attracts real people. Unfortunately, this is the truth of life. If there is no trading volume, then no one will be interested in this cryptocurrency.