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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: Benwilder on October 18, 2018, 01:42:57 PM

Title: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: Benwilder on October 18, 2018, 01:42:57 PM
Although we hear and believe cryptosystem is not centralized, how then does the value of currencies fall or rise? Who or what determines that. Dont you think there a body that manipulates the market
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: Patellaa on October 18, 2018, 01:48:21 PM
I ponder on this several times and yet i tend to get no answer. It is very strange but lets keep on with the belief that crypto is not centralized,until further proven it is.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: laughingburger on October 18, 2018, 02:24:34 PM
Quote from: Benwilder on October 18, 2018, 01:42:57 PM
Although we hear and believe cryptosystem is not centralized, how then does the value of currencies fall or rise? Who or what determines that. Dont you think there a body that manipulates the market

Government should be one of the main body although we know crypto is not centralized but indirectly government can do major damage to the crypto space more than you know. There might also be possibility that big market player is also hiding somewhere inside the crypto space and they might be in a group so they are able to deal more damage on the prices of crypto.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: rsremove21 on October 18, 2018, 02:47:57 PM
yes cryptocurrency is a decentralized. the price in the market rise and fall because of the member that have a lot of holdings and ofcourse because of the team. in terms in BTC. the whale is the answer why the price goes ups and downs. read some articles about whale buddy. you will understand all about how the whales control the market.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: expander on October 19, 2018, 10:23:58 AM
The factor that determines the rise and fall of crypto prices is the amount of market demand and supply. If demand increases, the price of the coin will rise. And if the demand falls, the price of the coin will also follow.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: ivanleon on October 22, 2018, 08:02:34 PM
Quote from: Benwilder on October 18, 2018, 01:42:57 PM
Although we hear and believe cryptosystem is not centralized, how then does the value of currencies fall or rise? Who or what determines that. Dont you think there a body that manipulates the market

A very strange question, because the decentralization of cryptocurrency does not guarantee a stable price, where the principles of the free market work.Especially because most of the cryptocurrency exchanges centralized, so they manipulation can happen.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: Fenix on October 22, 2018, 10:45:33 PM
Quote from: Benwilder on October 18, 2018, 01:42:57 PM
Although we hear and believe cryptosystem is not centralized, how then does the value of currencies fall or rise? Who or what determines that. Dont you think there a body that manipulates the market
Nobody really controls a cryptocurrency, and its price is formed solely on the relationship between supply and demand, which are never constant, because there are millions of cryptocurrency owners and investors who make various controversial transactions on the market. Taking into account these transactions, the market itself reacts in the direction of increasing or decreasing the price of a particular cryptocurrency.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: tamango on October 23, 2018, 12:30:02 AM
Even if there is no central institution that control crypto, this market is very small compared to traditional finance so big players can easily manipulate it.
Also, exchanges are not so transparent so it's proved that many of them have a fake liquidity and manipulate prices to make more profits...
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: Refanjr on October 23, 2018, 01:02:25 AM
Crypto memang tudak berpusat itu semua terjadi yang mungkin hanya terlihat dari permintaan dan penawaran sehingga menarik investor untuk bermain ditransaksi pasar crypto
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: gribble on October 23, 2018, 04:17:05 AM
Yes, I think, no one will truly be able to control cryptocurrency, and its price because it is formed solely between supply and demand, which is never constant, because there are millions of cryptocurrency owners and investors who make controversial transactions on the market. Taking into account these transactions, and making the market itself react towards an increase or decrease in price
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: Delgboke on October 23, 2018, 05:42:16 AM
Yes crypto is not centralized but I think there are some institutions that are kicking against cryptocurrency and treat from the government also affect the rise and fall of cryptocurrency price and this affect the value rate.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: spark on October 23, 2018, 07:36:41 AM
Quote from: Benwilder on October 18, 2018, 01:42:57 PM
Although we hear and believe cryptosystem is not centralized, how then does the value of currencies fall or rise? Who or what determines that. Dont you think there a body that manipulates the market

I think some people place is trying to manipulate the market, but if people become panic, then the price will go up and down too. The panic emotion can give the biggest impact on the price and sometimes, the price can move in the unknown direction. But after the panic is gone, the price will be back to normal and will start to increase again.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: cashbit on October 23, 2018, 08:31:44 AM
Because the current market conditions in crypto are not very conducive. As high as creating market activities that are unpredictable and also cannot be predicted accurately in the future. At the moment it's a good thing for us to keep paying attention to the Crypto market so we will still know the market situation when it goes up and down.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: horseheadnebula on October 23, 2018, 11:38:03 AM
Of course there are manipulators just like every market. However I think most of the rise and fall totally depends on the market actions, hype, publicity, adoption. BTC got so much attention and media hype last year around December and it rose high up like crazy. In a market prices can rise and fall. This is totally normal and it's a market cycle.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: Zed0X on October 23, 2018, 12:17:59 PM
Quote from: ivanleon on October 22, 2018, 08:02:34 PM
Quote from: Benwilder on October 18, 2018, 01:42:57 PM
Although we hear and believe cryptosystem is not centralized, how then does the value of currencies fall or rise? Who or what determines that. Dont you think there a body that manipulates the market

A very strange question, because the decentralization of cryptocurrency does not guarantee a stable price, where the principles of the free market work.

Exactly. I got confused from the OP's statement. When we say decentralized, expect price volatility there's nobody can really control it. People will buy or sell at any price they decide to and you can't do anything about that one.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: AltLogan on October 23, 2018, 12:22:20 PM
I think traders are determine it's price.
For example altcoins raise is impact BTC.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: Moykoy on October 23, 2018, 03:20:21 PM
At the moment it is a good thing for us to keep paying attention to the Crypto market so that we will still know the market situation when it rises and falls. Because the current market conditions in crypto are not too conducive. As high as creating market activities that are unpredictable and also cannot be accurately predicted in the future.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: Contagem on October 23, 2018, 03:25:10 PM
The price is determined by the market, and the market is the place where price manipulations take place and decentralization is not a hindrance to manipulation. Since most of the coins have low capitalization, many large players use this and having large sums of money can easily manipulate the price in the market and make money on it. Decentralization simply makes it possible for any of us to manipulate the price of having enough money.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: khufuking on October 23, 2018, 03:43:35 PM
Price fall and rise mainly based on offer and demand, centralization have nothing to do with it! But there is manipulation which creates a wave and if no one follows it will mostly fall, I know that this is not the case with low volume coins where sharks mostly control the market, but with real top coins all they can do is just create a wave and it is up to others to go along or not. Manipulation can be done by anyone that has enough money to do so.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: Bit on October 23, 2018, 04:55:18 PM
The rise and fall of crypto prices depend on the demand on market. The demand can be influenced by good popularity of a token or coin. Commonly it happens normally, but it is possible to manipulate by a group of people that have big influence on crypto market. Many people call them by whales.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: Kusuma on October 23, 2018, 05:48:41 PM
Cryptocurrency are not regulated by the government, and demand and supply are influences for rising or falling prices of cryptocurrency. The uncertain market where sellers panic affect market collapse, but don't worry too much about it because it can make you panic, be patient cryptocurrency won't forever fall.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: bettyhill on October 23, 2018, 06:07:34 PM
I think the most important factor is the forces of Demand and supply
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: Abusadeeq6 on October 23, 2018, 07:08:07 PM
No one control the price of the Crypto,, the community can have affect the price,, the way forex price is affected by news
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: paydayloan on October 31, 2018, 09:22:00 AM
Market manipulation will not have a full effect on crypto prices. because crypto prices are determined by the large number of market demands. But if demand decreases, the price will fall to a low level. So, nobody controls the price of crypto.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: Breadwinner on November 03, 2018, 06:44:13 PM
I wonder why it is so but I think that's the nature of cryptocurrency. No one controls it yet the prices rise and fall.
People can buy and sell on the crypto market yet no one can control the fluctuation of prices in the market.
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: Delgboke on November 03, 2018, 09:26:36 PM
For my point of view I have been suspecting some secret body that is fighting against cryptocurrency not to be suitable so that nobody we challenge them financial wise because they afraid
Title: Re: How come prices fall or rise if no one controls it?
Post by: PRIBO247 on November 03, 2018, 10:39:38 PM
Quote from: Benwilder on October 18, 2018, 01:42:57 PM
Although we hear and believe cryptosystem is not centralized, how then does the value of currencies fall or rise? Who or what determines that. Dont you think there a body that manipulates the market

This question is a very good one. If crypto is decentralized, who then determines the rise and fall of prices? For me, I believe that there are players in the crypto field, far higher than whales who hold a large junk of crypto with them. If these players decide to offload a certain percentage of their holdings, it tends to affect the market because then the supply will be more than the demand.