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Title: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Goku01 on October 21, 2018, 12:32:58 AM
The number of karma giving by members are very low here. Most of the time good post never get any karma. For this lots of people get discouraged.  I also see that many people getting karma by their friends without having any good topic or post.Also many stupid post by high rank members but they don't get any negative karma.I think Admin must be careful about it or the forum will loose it's popularity.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: RedzoneASE19 on October 21, 2018, 05:31:39 AM
I believe that it is used well. Looking for the people who have the karma are those deserving person's that must recieve it.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: cryptothief on October 21, 2018, 05:35:43 AM
It's not necessarily always being misused, just that others maybe have a different outlook on what they consider to be valuable or helpful information. There will always be misuse, but don't think it's a huge issue (at least at this stage anyway). I, as far as I know, have no friends or alt accounts on the forum, but have still managed to accrue some karma, albeit at a slowish rate. Doesn't really bother me either way, as long as I don't get negative karma, but it's good to know that at least some of my posts have added value.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: alltalk on October 21, 2018, 06:06:08 AM
I know what you feel friend, I ever created the topic with similar opinion like you did. I think it needs a lot of time for good changes. Yes, I saw many good topics or replies but I guess they don't get proper appreciation. It is not about our regulation, It may be about the awareness of our members, especially for Senior ranks.

You are better to put this topic to Forum related: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=49.0.

My previous post related to your topics: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=50209.0
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: sibolis on October 21, 2018, 07:05:28 AM
You post about Karma, about stupid post that didn't get negative karma in this board, the board for altcoins and cryptocurrencies discussion.  Now you tell me, what Karma should I give to you?  Bad or good Karma?
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: xeroz on October 21, 2018, 07:46:21 AM
I also see that many people getting karma by their friends without having any good topic or post.Also many stupid post by high rank members but they don't get any negative karma.

You must be careful with the statement. If you have not enough evidences, you just spread out the bad issues related our forum. And you contribute to make a bad atmosphere among people here.   

or the forum will loose it's popularity.

Why it can reduce forum popularity? I think the popularity of altcoinstalks will be never influenced much because of the problems. 
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: tamango on October 21, 2018, 11:56:15 AM
You post about Karma, about stupid post that didn't get negative karma in this board, the board for altcoins and cryptocurrencies discussion.  Now you tell me, what Karma should I give to you?  Bad or good Karma?
I think you should not give any karma, but I noticed too that there are good posts with original analysis made by people that have 0 karma.... personally I will pay more attention on this from now.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Zed0X on October 21, 2018, 12:27:23 PM
You've been around this forum so I can assume that you've seen a lot of post and comments here already.

Notice that those that get the most karma (or at least the ones I usually give karma) are topics that are not copied, not generic, not one or two liner answers. I wish I could give negative karma to copied topics from other forums but I believe it is not yet covered by the plagiarism rule here.

So for everyone who wants to get a lot of Karma, here's your chance https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=64540.msg376126#msg376126
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Goku01 on October 21, 2018, 03:36:20 PM
I know what you feel friend, I ever created the topic with similar opinion like you did. I think it needs a lot of time for good changes. Yes, I saw many good topics or replies but I guess they don't get proper appreciation. It is not about our regulation, It may be about the awareness of our members, especially for Senior ranks.

You are better to put this topic to Forum related: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?board=49.0.

My previous post related to your topics: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=50209.0

Thank you for your suggestion and point out about my mistake.  I will be careful about this in future.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Goku01 on October 21, 2018, 03:41:31 PM
You post about Karma, about stupid post that didn't get negative karma in this board, the board for altcoins and cryptocurrencies discussion.  Now you tell me, what Karma should I give to you?  Bad or good Karma?

It's my mistake and i am thankful for pointing my mistake.  If we point out mistakes and give them chance to correct their mistakes then it will be much better.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Goku01 on October 21, 2018, 05:09:54 PM
I also see that many people getting karma by their friends without having any good topic or post.Also many stupid post by high rank members but they don't get any negative karma.

You must be careful with the statement. If you have not enough evidences, you just spread out the bad issues related our forum. And you contribute to make a bad atmosphere among people here.   

or the forum will loose it's popularity.

Why it can reduce forum popularity? I think the popularity of altcoinstalks will be never influenced much because of the problems.

I have evidences and I also complained those post and proven to Admin. But Admin can't solve this problem alone.  That's why I posted the topic though it is at wrong section.  I wasn't careful while I posted this.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: MelchiZedek on October 21, 2018, 07:36:40 PM
You can't have a perfect community. Obviously there would be some things which would not go in someone's favour or someone would be offended. That is perfectly normal. But if you have an issue about the forum, channel it to the right source and wait for their response. It doesn't help to be spreading this kind of info around.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: ayatoslaw on October 21, 2018, 08:02:58 PM
karma is very difficult to obtain, I personally get karma must work hard so that others can give it to me,
unfortunately there is no notification which post is given karma, if in case there might be an evaluation of where the post is good and which post is bad, so it can be a lesson for all of us.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: ZionRTZ on October 21, 2018, 08:33:47 PM
I was surprised to see a forum related topic here on altcoin discussion board. This is an interesting topic that can be discussed further if it will not be deleted and will just be moved to the correct board.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Mickha on October 21, 2018, 08:42:26 PM
I think the admin has his own way to give karma points, maybe you think there are people who post good and quality, but not necessarily quality according to the admin. we must always learn to post.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: fulled on October 21, 2018, 09:12:41 PM
i believe admin already know this issue, and start to find any solution for this, i believe admin will choose the most wise decision for this issue
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Goku01 on October 22, 2018, 02:20:39 AM
i believe admin already know this issue, and start to find any solution for this, i believe admin will choose the most wise decision for this issue
That is what everyone is hoping for.  We all want the best of this forum.  I know perfect forum is not possible but we can make it more better than now.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Cutter Cute on October 22, 2018, 04:05:45 AM
Positive karma is very desired by everyone, so members will compete to post good and useful topics in the forum. I think the admin has understood why the identity of someone who gives karma will be hidden.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Kyoshiro on October 22, 2018, 05:43:24 AM
Maybe or maybe not, some may awfully give karma and others may keep giving karma. It is really hard to say that someone deserves karma for doing nothing and the other half some may be considerate of giving karma. If we have no hopes of having karma at all then why would we wait in receiving it? Many users think that karma is a point system where the more karma you get, the better you are posting. It a big no no for me. Karma is simply a reward system and it does not define any of your ranks. Well, if you receive, so be it. If you do not receive so be it too. Don't aim in achieving karma. Aim to help without wanting to receive it.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: wildanmr on October 22, 2018, 10:38:11 AM
I know what you feel dude.
And for me, my task in this forum only getting information about cryptocurrency, share something usefull information if I have it, and discussion :)
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: PhiliPPs on October 22, 2018, 10:57:47 AM
Maybe all the same you are wrong.  After all, there is such a problem on bitcointalk and merit became necessary to pump a rank to participate in bounty, here you don’t need karma for this, so I don’t think people will give you karma if you write something really useful!
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Goku01 on October 23, 2018, 02:49:34 PM
Maybe all the same you are wrong.  After all, there is such a problem on bitcointalk and merit became necessary to pump a rank to participate in bounty, here you don’t need karma for this, so I don’t think people will give you karma if you write something really useful!

I think altcointalk will make a rule like bitcointalk very soon. May be starting next year.  If so the use of karma will be abused more and more because of rank up. If we carefully handle the situation from now then we don't have to face the problem in the future.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Goku01 on October 23, 2018, 02:55:13 PM
Maybe or maybe not, some may awfully give karma and others may keep giving karma. It is really hard to say that someone deserves karma for doing nothing and the other half some may be considerate of giving karma. If we have no hopes of having karma at all then why would we wait in receiving it? Many users think that karma is a point system where the more karma you get, the better you are posting. It a big no no for me. Karma is simply a reward system and it does not define any of your ranks. Well, if you receive, so be it. If you do not receive so be it too. Don't aim in achieving karma. Aim to help without wanting to receive it.

It's not a big issue now but it will be in future.  Most of the members know that there will be a rule like bitcointalk in near future.  Most of the members will face the problem if altcointalk rank down for having less karma then they required. As the popularity increases of this forum the rules will be more strict.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Millionaire on October 25, 2018, 08:46:10 AM
I think karma is not misused. And maybe someday karma will be very valuable.
At this time someone who can give their karma does not give it away uselessly. But they give it to topic that are of good quality and help other member.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Unknown on October 25, 2018, 11:09:07 AM
The number of karma giving by members are very low here. Most of the time good post never get any karma. For this lots of people get discouraged.  I also see that many people getting karma by their friends without having any good topic or post.Also many stupid post by high rank members but they don't get any negative karma.I think Admin must be careful about it or the forum will loose it's popularity.
Karma getting abused by other members because for them to secure themselves when this forum needs karma requirements to rank up.

The solution to this problem is an indication where, who and what post you get the karma just like on bct for us to see the karma history of a member and by this members with suspicious karma can be review on the forum court
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Leonardo on October 25, 2018, 11:37:01 AM
I also see that many people getting karma by their friends without having any good topic or post.Also many stupid post by high rank members but they don't get any negative karma.I think Admin must be careful about it or the forum will loose it's popularity.
Since the karma is not public, I don't quite understand why you can see those unreasonable things but for my case, I got a number of karmas for my posts. It's hard to force people giving karma but that's better in comparison with giving the right to judege "how is quality" in a group of people called "merit sources" as in the forum X.

Maybe all the same you are wrong.  After all, there is such a problem on bitcointalk and merit became necessary to pump a rank to participate in bounty, here you don’t need karma for this, so I don’t think people will give you karma if you write something really useful!
There will be some tighter requirements to rank up in the future, you can see it here: https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=56188.0
Not sure if those changes will be implemented, karma will be abused or not. And if it will, I don't know how we can prevent since only admin can see how the karma moves from one person to another.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: ZionRTZ on October 27, 2018, 05:36:25 AM
here you don’t need karma for this, so I don’t think people will give you karma if you write something really useful!
Not entirely true. There are bounty campaigns that require participants to have a neutral of positive karma before they can join, a negative karma during the campaign will get them kicked out.

I have given out karma not because they need it here, I have given because I think they deserve it.

OP, judging by your rank, you are eligible to give karma already, have you used it?
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Alpha on October 29, 2018, 05:23:03 PM
Sometimes receiving karma done accidentally and not willingly due to effortless rewarding to anybody. Clicking the THANKS and PUNISH can instantly be to anyone else who were victim. That's the scenario that I've observed.
Title: Re: "Karma" not properly used or misused
Post by: Zed0X on October 29, 2018, 06:53:47 PM
Sometimes receiving karma done accidentally and not willingly due to effortless rewarding to anybody. Clicking the THANKS and PUNISH can instantly be to anyone else who were victim. That's the scenario that I've observed.

I am curios about the karma given "accidentally". Has it happened to you already? Have you given out karma to a wrong post or comment? From what I know, you can always reverse the thank or punish you've given.