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Further Discussions => General Discussion => Topic started by: hoodie on October 31, 2018, 02:20:22 PM
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Expert Nathaniel Suchy said that the desktop version of the Telegram messenger does not encrypt user correspondence. He announced this on his Twitter page. According to the expert, all the data of the correspondence is stored in a regular database, which can easily be hacked. Suchy investigated the desktop version of the client for Telegram and concluded that the correspondence is stored in an unencrypted SQLite database. He stressed that encryption is not enabled even if the secret chat is activated.
The programmer managed to open the database and download the messages from there the Python scripts (seriously? :( )
What do you think about it ? Telegram was my favorite messenger. this is really terrible news for me. What messenger to use now? I will feel uneasy if I continue to use telegrams.
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We can keep our data with us. It's one way to be safe. I don't know of any safe messenger.
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We can keep our data with us. It's one way to be safe. I don't know of any safe messenger.
How to "keep our data with us"? I don`t understand.
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We can keep our data with us. It's one way to be safe. I don't know of any safe messenger.
How to "keep our data with us"? I don`t understand.
You can't transfer data safely.
You can store your personal data and not transfer them.
It's the only safe method.
I thought Telegram was safe. It turned out to be a mistake.
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No way.
Can hardly believe that!
If data leaking from programming language scripts, than it's completely ridiculous.
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No way.
Can hardly believe that!
If data leaking from programming language scripts, than it's completely ridiculous.
It's easy. No encryption. Encryption is implemented only in secret chats. And everyone says the messenger is fully encrypted. Everywhere cheating.
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No way.
Can hardly believe that!
If data leaking from programming language scripts, than it's completely ridiculous.
It's easy. No encryption. Encryption is implemented only in secret chats. And everyone says the messenger is fully encrypted. Everywhere cheating.
You mean Telegram secret chats aren't encrypted?
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No way.
Can hardly believe that!
If data leaking from programming language scripts, than it's completely ridiculous.
It's easy. No encryption. Encryption is implemented only in secret chats. And everyone says the messenger is fully encrypted. Everywhere cheating.
You mean Telegram secret chats aren't encrypted?
Right. Encryption is only in secret chats.
I began to doubt it now.
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We can keep our data with us. It's one way to be safe. I don't know of any safe messenger.
How to "keep our data with us"? I don`t understand.
You can't transfer data safely.
You can store your personal data and not transfer them.
It's the only safe method.
I thought Telegram was safe. It turned out to be a mistake.
great (no). but I want to correspond with my friends, for example :))
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No way.
Can hardly believe that!
If data leaking from programming language scripts, than it's completely ridiculous.
it is rather very sad
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No way.
Can hardly believe that!
If data leaking from programming language scripts, than it's completely ridiculous.
It's easy. No encryption. Encryption is implemented only in secret chats. And everyone says the messenger is fully encrypted. Everywhere cheating.
You mean Telegram secret chats aren't encrypted?
Right. Encryption is only in secret chats.
I began to doubt it now.
but in my opinion all the same, secret chats are encrypted and messages are not stored on servers
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We can keep our data with us. It's one way to be safe. I don't know of any safe messenger.
How to "keep our data with us"? I don`t understand.
You can't transfer data safely.
You can store your personal data and not transfer them.
It's the only safe method.
I thought Telegram was safe. It turned out to be a mistake.
great (no). but I want to correspond with my friends, for example :))
OK, be careful and not to pass on anything important.
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No way.
Can hardly believe that!
If data leaking from programming language scripts, than it's completely ridiculous.
It's easy. No encryption. Encryption is implemented only in secret chats. And everyone says the messenger is fully encrypted. Everywhere cheating.
You mean Telegram secret chats aren't encrypted?
Right. Encryption is only in secret chats.
I began to doubt it now.
but in my opinion all the same, secret chats are encrypted and messages are not stored on servers
True, secret chats aren't stored on servers. If it's true.
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Right. Encryption is only in secret chats.
I began to doubt it now.
I think WhatsApp and Telegram secret chats are secured enough.
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Right. Encryption is only in secret chats.
I began to doubt it now.
I think WhatsApp and Telegram secret chats are secured enough.
WhatsApp is a waste of information. It's Facebook on the other hand. Have you heard of leaks about personal data?
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I think WhatsApp and Telegram secret chats are secured enough.
WhatsApp is a waste of information. It's Facebook on the other hand. Have you heard of leaks about personal data?
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Sure, facebook chat is the worst messenger ever.
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I think WhatsApp and Telegram secret chats are secured enough.
WhatsApp is a waste of information. It's Facebook on the other hand. Have you heard of leaks about personal data?
Sure, facebook chat is the worst messenger ever.
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Facebook owns messenger WhatsApp. It's the same. No security.
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Facebook owns messenger WhatsApp. It's the same. No security.
Whaaaat?
I was sure it's not like that.
Now I really disappointed, because as I know Instagram DM is also under Facebook control.
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Facebook owns messenger WhatsApp. It's the same. No security.
Whaaaat?
I was sure it's not like that.
Now I really disappointed, because as I know Instagram DM is also under Facebook control.
Well, of course. In general, forget that WhatsApp can be good and encrypted by chat, but if Telegram is the same as it turned out, then I do not even know where to chat now.
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Facebook owns messenger WhatsApp. It's the same. No security.
Whaaaat?
I was sure it's not like that.
Now I really disappointed, because as I know Instagram DM is also under Facebook control.
Facebook is the all-powerful patron of all social networks and instant messengers in this case.
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Facebook owns messenger WhatsApp. It's the same. No security.
Whaaaat?
I was sure it's not like that.
Now I really disappointed, because as I know Instagram DM is also under Facebook control.
Facebook is the all-powerful patron of all social networks and instant messengers in this case.
not all. there is something that does not obey Facebook :))
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Facebook owns messenger WhatsApp. It's the same. No security.
Whaaaat?
I was sure it's not like that.
Now I really disappointed, because as I know Instagram DM is also under Facebook control.
Facebook is the all-powerful patron of all social networks and instant messengers in this case.
not all. there is something that does not obey Facebook :))
Please tell me about it. I don't believe anyone.
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Facebook owns messenger WhatsApp. It's the same. No security.
Whaaaat?
I was sure it's not like that.
Now I really disappointed, because as I know Instagram DM is also under Facebook control.
Facebook is the all-powerful patron of all social networks and instant messengers in this case.
not all. there is something that does not obey Facebook :))
Please tell me about it. I don't believe anyone.
signal for example. in fact, there are a lot of instant messengers and browsers that are written by all and sundry. many of them may be suitable for secure one-time correspondence.
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Facebook owns messenger WhatsApp. It's the same. No security.
Whaaaat?
I was sure it's not like that.
Now I really disappointed, because as I know Instagram DM is also under Facebook control.
Facebook is the all-powerful patron of all social networks and instant messengers in this case.
not all. there is something that does not obey Facebook :))
Please tell me about it. I don't believe anyone.
signal for example. in fact, there are a lot of instant messengers and browsers that are written by all and sundry. many of them may be suitable for secure one-time correspondence.
I haven't heard of the signal. Can you talk about him?
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Facebook owns messenger WhatsApp. It's the same. No security.
Whaaaat?
I was sure it's not like that.
Now I really disappointed, because as I know Instagram DM is also under Facebook control.
Facebook is the all-powerful patron of all social networks and instant messengers in this case.
not all. there is something that does not obey Facebook :))
Please tell me about it. I don't believe anyone.
signal for example. in fact, there are a lot of instant messengers and browsers that are written by all and sundry. many of them may be suitable for secure one-time correspondence.
I haven't heard of the signal. Can you talk about him?
With Signal you can exchange messages and calls with subscribers from your phone book. All information is encrypted and even the creators of the application can not access it. Everything else you can look at in Google and just use the Signal.
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Telegram actually monitoring all that you write. Try to log in on new device and after that write in some conversation your verification code, Telegram doesn't allow you to do that. This will not happen on secret chat. Try to use Silence or Threema.
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Does we have right now something better than telegram? I hear they even launch their own crypto.
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Does we have right now something better than telegram? I hear they even launch their own crypto.
OMG, rly? Isn't it farfetched info?
I'am looking for articles about messenger's tokens, but I heard telegram's were sold out before the pre sale lol
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Facebook owns messenger WhatsApp. It's the same. No security.
Whaaaat?
I was sure it's not like that.
Now I really disappointed, because as I know Instagram DM is also under Facebook control.
Have you really named Instagram DM as a messenger? :o
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Telegram use encryption only for secret chats. i think this was made for the best optimization in regular chats, and this is not an "secret information"
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Facebook owns messenger WhatsApp. It's the same. No security.
Whaaaat?
I was sure it's not like that.
Now I really disappointed, because as I know Instagram DM is also under Facebook control.
Facebook is the all-powerful patron of all social networks and instant messengers in this case.
not all. there is something that does not obey Facebook :))
Please tell me about it. I don't believe anyone.
signal for example. in fact, there are a lot of instant messengers and browsers that are written by all and sundry. many of them may be suitable for secure one-time correspondence.
I haven't heard of the signal. Can you talk about him?
With Signal you can exchange messages and calls with subscribers from your phone book. All information is encrypted and even the creators of the application can not access it. Everything else you can look at in Google and just use the Signal.
Are you sure you can trust it? Can it be the same as a telegram?
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Facebook owns messenger WhatsApp. It's the same. No security.
Whaaaat?
I was sure it's not like that.
Now I really disappointed, because as I know Instagram DM is also under Facebook control.
Facebook is the all-powerful patron of all social networks and instant messengers in this case.
not all. there is something that does not obey Facebook :))
Please tell me about it. I don't believe anyone.
signal for example. in fact, there are a lot of instant messengers and browsers that are written by all and sundry. many of them may be suitable for secure one-time correspondence.
I haven't heard of the signal. Can you talk about him?
With Signal you can exchange messages and calls with subscribers from your phone book. All information is encrypted and even the creators of the application can not access it. Everything else you can look at in Google and just use the Signal.
Are you sure you can trust it? Can it be the same as a telegram?
Nothing can be the same as telegram except of smth that were developed by Durov.
Concerning signal...it is another messenger, but which provides itself as "safest one". From my own experience this one is good enough, but it's interface doesn't match to my tastes.
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Telegram read all your messages. I know it coz impossible to write someone your verification code because Telegram will not allow you to do this, so technically Telegram read all your messages, unless you in secret chat. So what did you think about it. Pretty sad for mine opinion.
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You may use secret chats in Telegram.
Be sure they are encrypted.
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You may use secret chats in Telegram.
Be sure they are encrypted.
But i would't be better if all messenger will be encrypted, not only secret part.
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You may use secret chats in Telegram.
Be sure they are encrypted.
But i would't be better if all messenger will be encrypted, not only secret part.
Well, there is many other messenger alternatives then.
You may find the one that suits you best.
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But i would't be better if all messenger will be encrypted, not only secret part.
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Encrypting requires a lot of resources, as I know. Imagine, that app servers will always run at 100% just for encryption of ALL messages. Is it reasonable? Separate options for secret/not chat is much more convenient, cuz non-encrypted chat would be optimized in better way, and if you deed privacy - just switch the secret chat ???
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I don't think. It's good ideal
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I'm sure TG is encrypted and safe, at least we don't have more safe alternatives, do we?
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Expert Nathaniel Suchy said that the desktop version of the Telegram messenger does not encrypt user correspondence. He announced this on his Twitter page. According to the expert, all the data of the correspondence is stored in a regular database, which can easily be hacked. Suchy investigated the desktop version of the client for Telegram and concluded that the correspondence is stored in an unencrypted SQLite database. He stressed that encryption is not enabled even if the secret chat is activated.
The programmer managed to open the database and download the messages from there the Python scripts (seriously? :( )
What do you think about it ? Telegram was my favorite messenger. this is really terrible news for me. What messenger to use now? I will feel uneasy if I continue to use telegrams.
One twitter message and you have poop in your pants, really?
What Telegram executives comment upon this issue?
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I'm sure TG is encrypted and safe, at least we don't have more safe alternatives, do we?
Threema is great alternative, i did the research and tg is not that great, especially when it come to the encryption
unfortunately it's not free
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I already add and download Telegram Messanger for this section. So I don't understand how to use it clearly. I'm still in learning.Cause I'm new comer for this digital crypto. Please guide me to understand it. Thank u.
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I'm sure TG is encrypted and safe, at least we don't have more safe alternatives, do we?
Threema is great alternative, i did the research and tg is not that great, especially when it come to the encryption
unfortunately it's not free
How much is the subscription? Is only the desktop tg version is not secure?
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I'm sure TG is encrypted and safe, at least we don't have more safe alternatives, do we?
Threema is great alternative, i did the research and tg is not that great, especially when it come to the encryption
unfortunately it's not free
How much is the subscription? Is only the desktop tg version is not secure?
iOS, Android, Windows Phone
3$, maybe not so expensive for you, but i live on 3$ a day
that's why i not actually brought it, but reviews sounds great
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TG is not secure it's true.
Telegram's security failures and have been exposed through multiple cryptanalytic reviews...Telegram is plagued by a persistent campaign perpetrated by the likes of Moxie Marlinspike and Thomas Ptacek in order to elevate Signal's status.
You all should be aware of that.
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This is a serious situation here. If telegram is not secured and the secrete chat is also not encrypted, then there is a big issue here. Can't the telegram team/personnel do something about this. This is an app that is heavily used by all crypto enthusiasts (both persons and projects). Telegram team needs to work on that, with immediate effect.
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It's impossible.
Telegram is the safest messenger. ::) 8) :o
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This is a serious situation here. If telegram is not secured and the secrete chat is also not encrypted, then there is a big issue here. Can't the telegram team/personnel do something about this. This is an app that is heavily used by all crypto enthusiasts (both persons and projects). Telegram team needs to work on that, with immediate effect.
Why you think that "secret chats are not "encrypted"? This is a SECRET chat, hello there! Don't forget that telegram have 2 kinds of chats.
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I'm wondering how could anyone got any information if telegram encryptes the messages on the devices of users.
It's impossible to decrypt them.
Am I right?