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Title: Holders are losers?
Post by: Zed0X on November 06, 2018, 04:49:41 PM
Many suggest that holding is the best option especially in a bearish market but is it really?

Here's what I think based on my own experience:
Some people who hodl are just forced to do so because they were unable to sell on time due to lack of skill in trading. They had no other option other than to sell at a huge loss. I bet the people suggesting that hodling is the best option would probably sell their bags immediately at whatever profit or at a minimum loss if given the chance.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: trauchot on November 06, 2018, 06:41:12 PM
There are various situations and it is always very difficult to predict what to do with your portfolio, it sometimes happens that you hold and you get that price that suits you, or it happens that all this is just vain.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: JSD10M on November 06, 2018, 07:00:26 PM
Maybe you are right. I have some tokens that I did not sell because I really do not know whether it will go up or go down even further. If I was more skilled back then, I probably sold before the price plunged into the deep red sea.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Dinid on November 06, 2018, 07:12:42 PM
Mostly are like that.
Bad market situation force the users to hold their assets.

But may be, On another side, there are also some peoples who intentionally hold a portion of under-valued-coins for several months or years.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: carcas on November 06, 2018, 07:19:00 PM
why do you say the holder is a loser? I think holders are strong people and have good strategies during bad markets. they wait for a good time to sell and get more profits.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: PreshB on November 06, 2018, 07:24:27 PM
I will say they are not losers reason being that there different ways to invest and keep your investment, I will rather refer them to long tern investw than calling them losers.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Chomzzy on November 06, 2018, 08:37:40 PM
I know of someone is very good in holding coins. I used to think he was making mistakes not until he divulged his holding strategy to him.
He told me that anytime the price of the coins he is holding rises , that he usually sells abd then buy back when price tanks.
So can we still sayholders are  loosers? Your guess is as good as mine.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Fenix on November 06, 2018, 08:59:01 PM
Cryptocurrency is very unpredictable in its price. Sometimes what seems to be logical in the market does not occur, and sometimes newcomers, because of their inexperience, commit unreasonable things and win. Therefore, if the owners still hold their coins and this coin has not yet died, one can hardly say that they lost because they missed the right moment for sale before they fell in price. This coin can still go up quickly in the price and you will not have time to buy it before the price increase. Then that owner will end up winning.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: sturec22 on November 06, 2018, 09:33:23 PM
If you are a holder at the bear season, yes you are a loser,
If you are a holder at the bull season, no you are a winner.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: hyipmentor on November 06, 2018, 10:32:35 PM
holders are always gainer.
if you hold a coin you must be a patient person bcz coin would dump but if you are holder its not a matter .after some months your coin will rise.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: paolobaltimori on November 06, 2018, 11:00:46 PM
Unless if you are a skilled and talented trader holding a coin (if this coin is good and genuine) can be a good strategy because it's simple and in this way you aren't affected by possible panic when market is RED
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Benwilder on November 07, 2018, 12:12:08 AM
Holders are only loosers if they decide to keep their coins for longer time with the fear of loosing value,but if you are abreast with market trends you get to know when to sell and when to hold but Its very okay if you tend to hold when the market is not encouraging.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: ayatoslaw on November 07, 2018, 12:13:00 AM
I also have the same thoughts,
HOLD is the best choice to save our assets,
but many also sell at a loss, and they will cover their losses by trading,
so if we are an investor, it is better to hold it first, because the market will definitely bear, it's just that we don't know when it will happen.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Gastonic on November 07, 2018, 12:54:47 AM
Holders are long term investors. they believe in long term profits than the traders. You cannot say that Holders are losers.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: bettyhill on November 07, 2018, 01:11:49 AM
I guess you have a point. But then looking at it critically, it all depends on the reason for holding it in the first place. Some hold to sell in a short time while others hold as a form of long term investment. Not necessarily because of inexperience
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Cutter Cute on November 07, 2018, 01:18:47 AM
I hold coins for 6 months and sell late, I think I can learn from my mistakes and now I begin to understand like being a smart holder, making orders below the selling price, and selling your coins if prices have started to rise.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: ArtCrypt on November 07, 2018, 01:29:46 AM
In today's market, holding coins in a long-term investment is a huge risk, as all the tokens received immediately drop in price more than 10 times. This applies to bounty companies.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: ZionRTZ on November 07, 2018, 05:57:03 AM
I think the proper title should be "Some holders are losers"
There are smart holders (skilled traders) who sells at a profit when the market is on a downtrend then buy back at a lower price.
There are also noob holders who do not know the right time to sell. They hold until their potential profit turns to a potential or temporary loss.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: LogiC on November 07, 2018, 06:00:30 AM
That's a bit arrogant mate to called hodlers inexperience. Maybe their goal is to see the full development of the coin before selling. I'm a trader, but I have in portfolio some coins for hold as well. I gained considerable profit as well from trading. So I don't agree that holders are just holding because of you're reason. So what can justify about me holding it?
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: icolumnist on November 07, 2018, 06:25:37 AM
Well , we cant say holders are losers really . Market conditions are quite unpredictable . People  use to make good profits out of cryptocurrencies , that doesn't mean they wont in near future .  People do not wanna exchange their currencies for nothing . I would still hold on to them because I believe market is gonna go to positive this winter .


Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: sixexgames on November 07, 2018, 06:38:02 AM
I think some people who tell people to HODL just want you to do that so that they can sell. But after a crash like we saw this year, you might as well hold.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: backfirst77 on November 07, 2018, 06:38:51 AM
Retaining positions in trading is delaying losses because they have not been sold. That is precisely why that makes us seem to be part of a loser. With the decline in prices that don't go up like NXT coins can make huge losses. Because the assets held when holding can be reduced by more than 70%. If that time is sold before the price falls, the remaining funds can still be used for trading again. Holding up until now will make us unable to do anything else at a very low price. The last road is left and forgotten so as not to become a burden on the mind and trade with other funds. So in trading not getting used to holding too long, make a loss limit if the price goes down so that funds are maintained.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Leebarnes on November 07, 2018, 06:50:54 AM
As I observed that holders are the most successful investors/traders, real traders didn't mind the sentiment of bear/bull market what they are after is the future of an asset that would be skyrocketing in the future time
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Dinid on November 07, 2018, 08:08:06 AM
As I observed that holders are the most successful investors/traders, real traders didn't mind the sentiment of bear/bull market what they are after is the future of an asset that would be skyrocketing in the future time
Agree, real holders usually know what coin they must hold. So, they don't want to hold any coins, only choose prospective ones. Also, may be some holders also do daily trading to gain short term profits.
I agree with the statement the holders are the winners
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Legio on November 07, 2018, 08:20:17 AM
All decisions are in your hands, as long as we believe and will be able to take advantage of why not hold your assets. In the crypto world, a lot of unexpected things happen, believing that dreams will come true.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Dprincebh on November 07, 2018, 08:24:54 AM
Yeah I agree with you, but actually holding is the best in terms of bear market if not you will gonna home with bags
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Raboni on November 07, 2018, 10:13:31 AM
It is not because of lack of understanding in trading but it is because of hoping to back on track the particular token holding. There are more possibilities why holding? Some there's no choice. Some it is there choice. Some just want to hold because they don't know what will happen as other said; better to wait than never.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: satpol_PP on November 07, 2018, 10:19:01 AM
Many suggest that holding is the best option especially in a bearish market but is it really?

Here's what I think based on my own experience:
Some people who hodl are just forced to do so because they were unable to sell on time due to lack of skill in trading. They had no other option other than to sell at a huge loss. I bet the people suggesting that hodling is the best option would probably sell their bags immediately at whatever profit or at a minimum loss if given the chance.

No, I think Hold is the best way to reduce the loss. If you are professional , You can do day trading not as holder.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: adterna on November 07, 2018, 10:23:58 AM
I don't think so, people hold crypto usually for the long term, instead of not daring to lose, but they apply a certain strategy,
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: May on November 07, 2018, 10:36:08 AM
If you are a professional, you can do day trading not as a holder. I think Hold is the best way to reduce losses.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: densuj on November 07, 2018, 11:00:56 AM
I don't think so, people hold crypto usually for the long term, instead of not daring to lose, but they apply a certain strategy,
I agree with your opinions because basically short term investment (trading alternatives coins) or long term investment (holding) it is just about the strategy of investment in cryptocurrencies, i don't think that holders are losers because if someone who have held the bitcoin since 2009 they are winner for now. Holders and traders they have own strategy of investment in cryptocurrencies and all of them is good in my personal opinions.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Thegals on November 07, 2018, 11:09:33 AM
Not always holders will be losers. Depends on coins or which tokens are stored. Because if it is wrong to hold back, it will cause a lot of losses and it will be difficult to return to the original price. To be a holder must do research before buying and saving for long-term investment. So that it will get a lot of profit and not be a loser when choosing the altcoin.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: cepot22 on November 07, 2018, 11:43:28 AM
it is very difficult for treder to make a decision when the price goes down, it needs the right calculation so as not to cause a big loss
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Zed0X on November 07, 2018, 11:44:48 AM
Reading through the comments, I saw a lot of interesting points raised. Some got the point I was trying to make and some might have missed it. Some agree while others disagree.

Just to clarify, I raised a question if holders are losers then posted my thoughts. It was not a statement that holders are losers.

Anyway, I do agree with some comments that there are wise holders (those who know when to sell then buy back later to increase holdings) and that there are also different reasons why people hold. There are also some points raised that I do not agree with but that's your view. I still stand with my previous statement that given the chance, those who bought their tokens at $100 (just for example) and held onto it until it plummeted to more or less $10, would have sold it had they been more knowledgeable about market trends.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Ferki on November 07, 2018, 12:27:19 PM
If you have bought your Bitcoin for 19k last year and you havn´t sold it till now..you are not a loser.But if you have sold ...well,you are loser.
Anyways,people like me are holding for at least 2-3 years if project is still developing.
Even if they didn´t finished yet but making some steps forward is that a good sign for me. Stagnation means regression,and thats the sign to clear out,to sold.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Jaguar on November 07, 2018, 01:25:36 PM
Holders are winners sometimes they are the loser for thinking the market to be good according to their expected time. Sadly not at all times what we've expected will happen. That's the matter.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: cryptofunn on November 07, 2018, 02:35:27 PM
If you bought Bitcoin and Eterium now, then you are not a loser. So their prices will rise. What share can now be taken altcoins and keep until bull run
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Crazymelons18 on November 07, 2018, 02:54:10 PM
Honestly I do believe this to be true in my experiences as well. It is really hard to predict the rise and fall of the market and because of the lack of trading skills I did lose some of my investments. I didn't set any stop loss and I just keep holding it until I saw that the values was becoming very small and the market have gone a bit unfavorable. Seeing that I did lose a lot I sold my coins and after sometime when I thought the prices were moving up I did buy coins again to hold and yet failed because the prices begin to dump again. Now I am starting to realize how things are really working but I just couldn't save my loses not until maybe if the prices will go up again. But when? I just don't know.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: emanbea1234 on November 07, 2018, 03:42:03 PM
for me holders is not a loser because if you a being a holder the big chances of profit you gain and your keyto success is patience.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: PRIBO247 on November 07, 2018, 03:47:20 PM
Holders aren't losers. The cryptocurrency market is a highly uncertain and volatile one. One person strategy for crypto is to hold and wait for good price while another's is to sell at any price.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: JaymondStark on November 07, 2018, 06:12:58 PM
I am not on the track with you on this, and I am encouraging you not to believe in this too. I personally am a holder and I can assure you I am in the better place from the people whom were day trading all the time.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Deallove9 on November 07, 2018, 09:13:23 PM
May be to you but to me holder are always a winner , don't think you have to hold forever , there is always a time to sell so not like those who bought in a day and after the little gain they sold but if you hold and sell when it's due to you will definitely have more profit compare to day trader cause they can't catch up every time with the way market is , but if you hold to sell for medium term and re-enter at the bottom again then you have more chance to have more profit.

Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Delgboke on November 07, 2018, 09:50:26 PM
Sometimes is good to hold depending on your reasons why you want to hold, if your reasons are to make profit when value increase is a good idea but sometimes it can lead to lose.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: densus88 on November 07, 2018, 10:16:26 PM
Many suggest that holding is the best option especially in a bearish market but is it really?

Here's what I think based on my own experience:
Some people who hodl are just forced to do so because they were unable to sell on time due to lack of skill in trading. They had no other option other than to sell at a huge loss. I bet the people suggesting that hodling is the best option would probably sell their bags immediately at whatever profit or at a minimum loss if given the chance.

No, I think holders is not losers. We sometimes to do that, Hold your coin when the price is going down. Hold is the best way to keep the value of coin.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Kritkarika on November 07, 2018, 10:38:13 PM
Sometimes that can be true sometimes wrong. For example i bought x coin while it was 3 dollar and that coin reached to 15 dollar but i didint sell because it can be 50 dollar in right time.
After that coin drop 15 to 1 dollar. So i am still holding But if that coin will reach 15 again i will not sell. Because i know it will be 50 dollar in the future. One day that coin will reach that value. Because of that i am not loser i am holder and i will hold until i reach my target. But sometimes yes  some investors didint sell their tokens right time and they have to hold because of their losses.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Iconic on November 08, 2018, 03:00:26 AM
Actually holding Hold when the market is low is a good idea and the best way so that we do not sell and harm ourselves in trading. I think that with Hold, we will save us from the wrongdoers in the future. Because waiting patiently and always paying attention to the market is a good and commendable way. I appreciate that.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: badjoke on November 08, 2018, 03:03:32 AM
LOL  . imagine a bitcoin holder ? How can you say that ? There is too many unstable thing .
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: pelana vreo on November 08, 2018, 03:20:42 AM
Being a coin holder is not easy, I prove it by holding back even though the price goes up, but we need experience, when is the right time and when to sell, I will sell if the price is in line with the profit that I expect, otherwise I will not sell .
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: jjeeppeerrxx on November 08, 2018, 05:35:42 AM
Many suggest that holding is the best option especially in a bearish market but is it really?

Here's what I think based on my own experience:
Some people who hodl are just forced to do so because they were unable to sell on time due to lack of skill in trading. They had no other option other than to sell at a huge loss. I bet the people suggesting that hodling is the best option would probably sell their bags immediately at whatever profit or at a minimum loss if given the chance.

Do you advise us to sell the tokens we are holding whatever it's price? This idea is a bit convincing, maybe after the bounty rewards received to our wallet we can immediately sell it to earn real money but some of us here earns only a few in bounties the reason if we sell it there's too little money equivalent.

For now, I'm in the stage of holding, first of all, why do I need to hold? Because they newly ended ICO's are still on the development of their product and of course it's normal that there's still no adoption at the moment from consumers because of being new and need to be established first before the value will raise high.

Once the product is established and more people will adopt it's pretty sure that the value of certain token will go high and for that, a real money value is seen which made it the best time to sell.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Yahud on November 08, 2018, 06:10:27 AM
This is a risk for Traders / Investors in the Crypto world. Hold is the best choice when we experience delays in selling assets when prices rise. but it requires more patience and capital, because we have to wait for the price to rise so that the profit. for me hold is struggling.  8)
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: gribble on November 08, 2018, 06:38:57 AM
why do you say that the holder, is a loser? but I think the holder, is not a loser but he is a very strong person and has a good strategy during a bad market. because they are waiting for the right time to sell and want to get more profits.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Mengkay07 on November 08, 2018, 06:42:56 AM
I thinkni t depends upon the holders patience. If we are a long term holders we can really possibly face loss or gain it is always depend on the price and limitations. I believe that holders is not a losers because losses is not a holders they are dumpers and they really didn't wanted to see the dropping of the crypto coin price. While holders really wanted to see all coin are down so that they can buy more and earn more.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Bhussainn2 on November 08, 2018, 07:54:25 AM
one can hardly say that they lost because they missed the right moment for sale before they fell in price. This coin can still go up quickly in the price and you will not have time to buy it before the price increase. Then that owner will end up winning.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: cukong on November 09, 2018, 10:05:40 AM
I didn't think so, if you hold good coins and you have right aim. You know when you should sell it or still hod it. And you can be the winner of holders, and get good profits.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: jonathancool220 on November 09, 2018, 10:27:30 AM
Hodler is actually a strong and mentally tested person.
Just look at how HODLER Bitcoin was from 2013 and is now a millionaire. LOL
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Valerizza on November 09, 2018, 10:27:53 AM
If you hodl it doesn't mean you need to forget about the project). Sometimes people just loose the right moment thinking they can gain more and don't sell..the price goes down and they still don't sell).
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: altery0518 on November 09, 2018, 11:23:07 AM
We must admit that all of us who holds our crypto investment for long period of time are now losing too much due to a very huge dropping of market value but although we are losing but we should not be worried about the our investmen, instead we should continue to hold because i do believe that sooner or later crypto invested becomes more profitable again.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: waniowski on November 09, 2018, 12:18:38 PM
I hope that holding one coin i bought few months ago will bring significant changes to my budget. How long should i wait for these changes? Looks like one year, maybe two. Company has good product, present coin holders hope it will be game-changer
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: raihanjr on November 09, 2018, 01:21:31 PM
Many suggest that holding is the best option especially in a bearish market but is it really?

Here's what I think based on my own experience:
Some people who hodl are just forced to do so because they were unable to sell on time due to lack of skill in trading. They had no other option other than to sell at a huge loss. I bet the people suggesting that hodling is the best option would probably sell their bags immediately at whatever profit or at a minimum loss if given the chance.
hold is the best choice with various aspects such as that we have saved potentially up coins like BTC. and maybe what you say is true that many miss the news that they don't know how to sell it and cause hodl
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Zed0X on November 09, 2018, 01:57:51 PM
Borrowing someone's post that I read in one forum. It is pretty much similar to my opinion that holding is not always the best option.

No offense, but I think holding coins at this bear market doesn't any sense. Why is everyone becoming the crypto holder? From the Legendary to a newbie, most of the people suggest to hold, But why? Yes, I know holding coin may give a bug rewards in future because I was a holder too. I had 15K USD, and my all of USD becomes less than 4K USD in front of my eyes. I just keep checking my wallet and every time my feelings were the same " sucks". Are you holding to be a millionaire like some people who bought bitcoin at 5 USD or less price and sold in more than 10K USD?

I did not hold for lose my capital. Did you? Then why you still holding and losing your money. Please kindly learn to trade. By trading your coins, in this bear market, you can make a lot of money within a few days to months.

I sold my all coins in the last month when bitcoin huts 8400 USD, and then I keep continue trading. In this one month, I made more than 2200 USD Profits. Now I had all of past holding coins with extra 2200 USD Profit.

If you can't trade or if you totally newbie here, then you may keep holding. But at least I suggest learning how to trade. This is my personal opinion. You may follow it or not. Best of luck.

Thank You.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: DeKingCrypto on November 09, 2018, 04:09:48 PM
Holders are not losers, they only choose a long term investment.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Putih on November 09, 2018, 04:13:21 PM
You are wrong, the losers are those who feel frustrated and sell low. But this doesn't matter who loses, but it's a problem to get the benefits of crypto, and when the market falls it holds better than selling low.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Alcor on November 10, 2018, 02:14:52 PM
Many suggest that holding is the best option especially in a bearish market but is it really?

Here's what I think based on my own experience:
Some people who hodl are just forced to do so because they were unable to sell on time due to lack of skill in trading. They had no other option other than to sell at a huge loss. I bet the people suggesting that hodling is the best option would probably sell their bags immediately at whatever profit or at a minimum loss if given the chance.
There is a certain amount of truth in your reasoning. However, this is not always the case. Many are still waiting for a more suitable option for selling their coins and tokens. Or they expect certain events that should occur in the projects of these cryptocurrencies, which should significantly increase their value. Still others, without any calculations, believe that after a long period of time, their coins or tokens should grow much more than they can get from their sale now.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Zed0X on November 10, 2018, 02:30:02 PM
Many suggest that holding is the best option especially in a bearish market but is it really?

Here's what I think based on my own experience:
Some people who hodl are just forced to do so because they were unable to sell on time due to lack of skill in trading. They had no other option other than to sell at a huge loss. I bet the people suggesting that hodling is the best option would probably sell their bags immediately at whatever profit or at a minimum loss if given the chance.
There is a certain amount of truth in your reasoning. However, this is not always the case. Many are still waiting for a more suitable option for selling their coins and tokens. Or they expect certain events that should occur in the projects of these cryptocurrencies, which should significantly increase their value. Still others, without any calculations, believe that after a long period of time, their coins or tokens should grow much more than they can get from their sale now.

Well said. +1
As some already mentioned in the previous comment, there are two different types of holders. You clearly pointed out the main difference.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Jun on November 10, 2018, 03:21:08 PM
  i will not agree holders are not  looser,they are who analyze the opportunity that awaits them in crypto world.sometimes when market falls the best options   to hold  and prevent huge loose,hold give a change their coins grow much than selling in lower price
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Jetski on November 10, 2018, 04:13:14 PM
Yes I agree that there are lots of investors today that they consider as loser and this is due to continue holding of coins which are now dropping so bad and mostly the market price drops by more than 80%.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: xeroz on November 10, 2018, 04:31:20 PM
Holding is only for potential coins, you shouldn't hold the coins with bad future. I don't think holding can be applied for all coins since many coins possibly won't survive. Because this fact, we must be smarter to choose right coins to hold for long time or for daily trading. Trading skills and knowledge are also important to master, this may lead us to the success in trading.   
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: justsimpleram on November 10, 2018, 04:35:01 PM
I experience that I hold because the team of the project said that to me that I should hold my holdings until this date because it will pump that time. But that's not happen and my investment all gone and I don't gain any profit from it and now I'm holding another crypto but I sell sometimes little by little so that I gain a profit on it.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Dkingbh on November 11, 2018, 08:27:43 AM
Cryptocurrency is very unpredictable in its price. Sometimes what seems to be logical in the market does not occur, and sometimes newcomers, because of their inexperience, commit unreasonable things and win.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Bhussainn2 on November 11, 2018, 08:31:03 AM
Holders are only loosers if they decide to keep their coins for longer time with the fear of loosing value,but if you are abreast with market trends you get to know when to sell and when to hold but Its very okay if you tend to hold when the market is not encouraging.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: TERENCIO on November 11, 2018, 09:19:37 PM
It all depends in the  situation, because if the market is in greenery then holders are winners.  In this tough situation, maybe we can tell,  but smart people and invested in potential project they don't care the ups and down in the market.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: PreshB on November 11, 2018, 10:04:52 PM
In  my  little   opinion  holders  are  losers,  it  might  be   that  the  market  price  is  too  low. The can  only be  a loser  when  the  keep  it  more  than  expected.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Instro18 on November 11, 2018, 11:41:33 PM
if in my opinion. not bitcoin or altcoin holders are losers. I myself still hold a few coins. because my goal is to invest in the digital world of bitcoin in the long run. as a deposit for the future of my children
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: gurunanakji777 on November 13, 2018, 09:08:45 AM
Even my mindset for holding has been changed because market test the patience at extreme level. This is all because of long cycle of bearish trend. We hold many coins in hope of huge gain but truth is that we have lost our portfolio value upto 70% starting from this year and now my thinking is like that when market will move up again and give us profit I will sell all I will not hold.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: PhiliPPs on November 13, 2018, 09:30:11 AM
This is not always the case, because not a small part of people just simply try to keep the coins they bought seeing and hoping for any coin growth in the future given that by this time the project will be finalized and launched which will give good support to the token in price!
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: moromi on November 13, 2018, 10:35:46 AM
Hold your investments is a good strategy which will give good returns in long term. So there is no point to sell my altcoins, some coins are always worth to hold. Sometime market also test our patience. Everyone has a different marketing strategy. For me, holding is the best strategy for good return.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Alcor on November 17, 2018, 04:40:57 PM
If there is a bear market, there is always a way out; this is to keep your coins and tokens, and also to expect the next rise of the cryptocurrency market. Until the cryptocurrency owners sell their coins and tokens at these very low prices, they will not be the losers.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Ankit1999999 on November 17, 2018, 07:12:34 PM
Now Cryptomarket is unstable but If you have flat money you can investment in altcoins because mostly altcoin price is very low. So you can investment in Altcoins and hold it. I believe, you can earn big profit when cryptomarket full recovers.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: ArtCrypt on November 17, 2018, 09:55:01 PM
I know one person who never sells his received tokens from bounty companies. He had $ 70.000 at last year's peak prices, but now he has only 10K. So think that it is more profitable, guys
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Crypto Joe on November 17, 2018, 10:03:07 PM
Not mostly holders are losers because you don't know whether that token you hold can be more profitable in the future. It's always depend on what token to buy and hold because a real project is need a development in order to succeed in the future.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Morrower on November 17, 2018, 10:40:47 PM
I think that holding now is better than trading as everything is falling and there's no reason to change some shit to another shit.
Losers are those who sell everything as crypto won't probably die so simple. I hope for better but if the situation won't change in the beginning of next year I will probably sell everything.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: getit on November 17, 2018, 10:48:27 PM
Are you sure of what are saying??? This is not true. How can hodlers be losers??? Each one has its own investment strategies and some prefer to hodl for as long as they deem necessary to sell.Those who sell when price show a downward trend are rather the losers
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: PreshB on November 17, 2018, 10:55:12 PM
Holders  are  not  losers,  you  can  not  sell  when  the  market  price  is  low,  you  have  to  hold on  to  your  coin  for  the  the price  to. come  up  before  you  sell,  when  you  sell when the price is low you can not make any  profit,  that  is  why  is  good  one  to  hold  on  so  that  you  will  not lose.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: hermae on November 17, 2018, 11:23:49 PM
I do not think that holders are losers. I am also a holder myself, and I do not think I am a loser. Everyone of us has its own strategies, at this time, where bearish market is on, holding is one of our strategies to prevent from losing too much. Holding is being patient to wait for the right time, never a loser.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: mightwalker on November 17, 2018, 11:24:02 PM
Imagine Ethereum was down from 3$ to 0.4$ in the past, many holders invest for very long-term investment so I think not all of them are losers.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Mocosolawatan on November 17, 2018, 11:34:04 PM
if in my opinion not bro. because I myself still hold some cryipto. but I still hold back some of the assets that I have. and sell part of what I have for short-term investments. but I also add capital to buy when I see falling market prices
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Nisa12 on November 18, 2018, 01:37:43 AM
to hold or hold all the coins we have requires patience and a long time because we do not know when the market price will recover and hold coins we must first know about coins for the future
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: ComeBack on November 18, 2018, 01:50:21 AM
Most of the time it's true that there's a time that it's look like that we are the losers but I think we're the real winners here who never stop holding their coins that we believe it will going to have a great future. But it's really depending on the project just dump those coins or projects that you think there's really no future at all even they have a good price now.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: sudeshkumar on November 18, 2018, 01:54:51 AM
Those people are traders and trade every day they can make money by selling the coins at the higher rates and buying at lower rates but overall result should be that coins should be held for long term gains.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: comer on November 18, 2018, 02:27:52 AM
I don't get your idea! How could a holder loss if he is not even sell his/her holdings? Patience will be rewarded when bull market happens. I am a holder and I'm not losing my money up until now.. But it will be loss if I sell it today in this market condition.
Heres a few things to remember to gain profit in this crypto world.
1. Buy low sell high
2. Hold your investment when market goes down.
3. Observe patience all the time.
4. Monitoring the market every day to avoid missing even a single pump.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: gribble on November 18, 2018, 02:39:38 AM
why do you say that the holder is a loser? I think they are not losers but are people who are strong and have good strategies during bad markets. because they are waiting for the right time to sell and to get more profits.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: damsix on November 18, 2018, 02:46:26 AM
HODL is when there is NEWS for altcoins that have been bought by us.
When there is an FUD, do not expect HODL, then it is better to STOPLOSS because when we lose quickly it falls deeper into the pit of suffering.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: MOProgress on November 18, 2018, 04:52:51 AM
No Holders are not loosers, holder I feel have two intention, one of is that the holder either choose long term investment or the holder decided not to sell in bear market.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Zed0X on November 18, 2018, 08:40:53 AM
why do you say that the holder is a loser? I think they are not losers but are people who are strong and have good strategies during bad markets. because they are waiting for the right time to sell and to get more profits.

I find it hard to respond to a plagiarized comment. Next time exert more effort in responding to different posts in this forum.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Alpha on November 18, 2018, 08:41:54 AM
Literally holders are losers once they are lazy to read about the project. Once they are in the jackpot of fake ICO and they hold the tokens for long they will be in lose. Those who hold the tokens carefully with proper knowledge about the project whether fake or real and potential or shits have much better result once crypto totally recovered.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: akitha on November 18, 2018, 09:40:56 AM
i think no..it's just the matter of patient that's why they are holding their coins, instead of selling at loss better to hodl it ans wait for the right price
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: boyknightvn on November 18, 2018, 10:17:51 AM
Maybe some peoples like you said but in my opinion, I sure that holders is winners, the important that which price did they buy in and their patience
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: barrsa on November 18, 2018, 11:51:24 AM
in my opinion, being a holder doesn't mean a loser because it's their choice to avoid more losses and I can't blame them because it's true, by holding at least they still have the opportunity to be able to get a profit when prices rise
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Marryan on November 18, 2018, 12:08:50 PM
Holders are wise people that have enough patience to wait for better times. The worst thing you can do now is to panic sell everything.
And the best thing you can do now is to invest some more money to crypto. As good days will only  come.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: nakmantu99 on November 18, 2018, 12:14:40 PM
Many suggest that holding is the best option especially in a bearish market but is it really?

Here's what I think based on my own experience:
Some people who hodl are just forced to do so because they were unable to sell on time due to lack of skill in trading. They had no other option other than to sell at a huge loss. I bet the people suggesting that hodling is the best option would probably sell their bags immediately at whatever profit or at a minimum loss if given the chance.

I personally dont agree with hold. I prefet do day trading and short term investment. But Hold is the best way to reduce your loss.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: zilzylian on November 19, 2018, 08:00:21 AM
I prefer to hold coins for long-term investments, both have risks and I have to overcome losses by holding coins for a long time, if some people ask if you keep holding coins even though the price drops, I can monitor the coins that I have in the crypto market with so I will sell it if the price of the coin I hold will drop 10% from the initial capital that I have.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: laughingburger on November 19, 2018, 10:08:43 AM
Many suggest that holding is the best option especially in a bearish market but is it really?

Here's what I think based on my own experience:
Some people who hodl are just forced to do so because they were unable to sell on time due to lack of skill in trading. They had no other option other than to sell at a huge loss. I bet the people suggesting that hodling is the best option would probably sell their bags immediately at whatever profit or at a minimum loss if given the chance.

I beg to differ your opinion i do share with people to hold on to their coin and i also do so but one must know which coin you should be holding and not blindly holding on to every coin.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Kinal on November 19, 2018, 11:08:30 AM
I prefer to hold coins for long-term investments, both have risks and I have to overcome losses by holding coins for a long time, if some people ask if you keep holding coins even though the price drops, I can monitor the coins that I have in the crypto market with so I will sell it if the price of the coin I hold will drop 10% from the initial capital that I have.
If you not early investor - you 100% lose your money
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: cryptofunn on November 19, 2018, 02:14:47 PM
If you look at the perspective of 1 year, then yes, those who held the coins this year were at a loss. Maybe next year the coins will return their positions if Bitcoin does not fall to the bottom at all
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Zurcemozz on November 19, 2018, 02:19:28 PM
Yes i agree on you, like me i dont really know trading as like a pro, im just waiting for my friends to tell us that its time to sell your hodl coins, but also because of hodling a coin, the coin itself start to lose its value until the end.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Dynamite on November 19, 2018, 02:45:25 PM
Holders are definitely not losers. Holders hold the tokens that they know they won't be at regrets at the end. They hold the choosen potential altcoins that will be at good value as the year goes by.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: de_prof on November 19, 2018, 10:47:34 PM
Many suggest that holding is the best option especially in a bearish market but is it really?

Here's what I think based on my own experience:
Some people who hodl are just forced to do so because they were unable to sell on time due to lack of skill in trading. They had no other option other than to sell at a huge loss. I bet the people suggesting that hodling is the best option would probably sell their bags immediately at whatever profit or at a minimum loss if given the chance.

I dont agree about that, I think Hold is the best way to keep the value of crypto currency. Dont be panic when the market is red.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Marryan on November 25, 2018, 04:57:07 PM
Holders are definitely not losers. Holders hold the tokens that they know they won't be at regrets at the end. They hold the choosen potential altcoins that will be at good value as the year goes by.

And the most clever ones do additional investments in other potential coins :) We're in a hard situation but even now there are good ways out!
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Uplifted on November 25, 2018, 06:07:55 PM
One thing is that digital assets Market is unpredictable. You can't predict which coin to hold or not cause you might hold and it dumps or vice versa. So it's not entirely true that holders are losers. Some made huge profits while holding, upto x10 or more.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Anzal RK on November 25, 2018, 06:21:02 PM
what, i am not a gree with that.
Hold all coin is the best choose for now.
and i think Hold coin is safe play with a low risk to get profit, i am not do day trading because have a big risk.
holders is not a losers.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Lucky Stone on November 25, 2018, 07:49:13 PM
Holding a coin will not take you anywhere because not all coins can develop. So, you better trade every day because it can give you profits every day. But you must be able to do it carefully and quickly.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: ivanleon on November 25, 2018, 08:30:38 PM
Many suggest that holding is the best option especially in a bearish market but is it really?

Here's what I think based on my own experience:
Some people who hodl are just forced to do so because they were unable to sell on time due to lack of skill in trading. They had no other option other than to sell at a huge loss. I bet the people suggesting that hodling is the best option would probably sell their bags immediately at whatever profit or at a minimum loss if given the chance.

Do you think people who shout that you need to hold, they are all hypocrites and just want to powder their brains to sell more profitable? Maybe they just really believe in cryptocurrency?
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: MelchiZedek on November 25, 2018, 08:40:50 PM
It's rather unfortunate that you don't seem to understand what hodling is about. If someone who is in for a short term profit tries it, he or she would be frustrated. Bitcoin had virtually no value in 2009 and now it is worth thousands of dollars as the time went by. So we hodl because we believe that with time the coin we have will worth something.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: Nate11 on November 25, 2018, 10:08:07 PM
If by holding you meant short term holding, then the answer wouldn't have been wrong.
But long term patient holders are not loossers.
Title: Re: Holders are losers?
Post by: raihanjr on November 26, 2018, 12:32:16 AM
Many suggest that holding is the best option especially in a bearish market but is it really?

Here's what I think based on my own experience:
Some people who hodl are just forced to do so because they were unable to sell on time due to lack of skill in trading. They had no other option other than to sell at a huge loss. I bet the people suggesting that hodling is the best option would probably sell their bags immediately at whatever profit or at a minimum loss if given the chance.
I agree with you that it is true that if in this situation, it is inevitable that people who have substantial losses will have HODL because they are also confused if they are sold, they will not come here and there the results