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Title: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: PRIBO247 on November 16, 2018, 10:05:56 PM
Today we see an increase of mistreatment towards bounty hunters from projects and we tend to blame the project manager for being wicked. But looking at it from another angle, what of fraudulent bounty hunters who register in a bounty project with multiple accounts, steal another person's details to use for a bounty or even check the submitted work of another hunter and copies it as his/her own? Don't you think some of this behaviours from bounty hunters is the reason we are being mistreated? Let's talk about it.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: Jaguar on November 17, 2018, 05:39:14 AM
Thats case is just a minor to result into mistreated by the campaign admin. There are more issues to be considered because sometimes bounty hunters do what they like to do without knowing what is the proper action to be done.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: MOProgress on November 17, 2018, 09:00:58 AM
I think sometimes it is the fault of bounty hunters and sometimes is the managers' fault or even the ICO project teams that cost all the problems.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: inewoods on November 17, 2018, 09:07:24 AM
Today we see an increase of mistreatment towards bounty hunters from projects and we tend to blame the project manager for being wicked. But looking at it from another angle, what of fraudulent bounty hunters who register in a bounty project with multiple accounts, steal another person's details to use for a bounty or even check the submitted work of another hunter and copies it as his/her own? Don't you think some of this behaviours from bounty hunters is the reason we are being mistreated? Let's talk about it.

No matter are you a project manager or a bounty hunter there bound to be black sheep. Two hands is always needed to clap, we should not put all the blame on one side and to both equally.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: Andruha1993 on November 17, 2018, 09:07:57 AM
Yes, I agree with you. If I were a campaign manager, a large number of scammers would have upset me. But I would never react badly to honest bounty hunters, because you need to control your emotions.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: Fenix on November 17, 2018, 09:18:57 AM
Today we see an increase of mistreatment towards bounty hunters from projects and we tend to blame the project manager for being wicked. But looking at it from another angle, what of fraudulent bounty hunters who register in a bounty project with multiple accounts, steal another person's details to use for a bounty or even check the submitted work of another hunter and copies it as his/her own? Don't you think some of this behaviours from bounty hunters is the reason we are being mistreated? Let's talk about it.
It is a little incomprehensible what harsh treatment of a bounty campaign manager is to bounty hunters. However, in any case, taking a tough stance against all bounty hunters will be unfair. You need to punish only those responsible.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: ZionRTZ on November 17, 2018, 09:30:22 AM
It is a fact that there are legit bounty hunters and there are fraudulent ones.
It is also a fact that there are legit bounty campaigns and there are scams.

We can't really blame legit bounty hunters who got scammed. Likewise, we can't really blame legit bounty campaigns from taking measures against all these frauds. Unfortunately, legit hunters get caught in the crossfire.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: gurunanakji777 on November 17, 2018, 01:14:19 PM
Several scammers are doing this. They use all fake details to enter into any campaign. I am just fed up of reporting such peoples to bounty managers. Mostly scammers join telegram campaign with anyone forum details only thing they use is their ethereum for the campaign. I must say every bounty manager should ask for authentication post in telegram group and as well as in forum also that way he can restrict the scammers because only the real person can send the authentication post from their Ac. I see many times we also victim of multiple entries just because of scammers does entry sometime prior to us with our forum details and apart from this I must appreciate CX platform automation system so one can not be scammed easily.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: PRIBO247 on November 17, 2018, 01:19:35 PM
It is a fact that there are legit bounty hunters and there are fraudulent ones.
It is also a fact that there are legit bounty campaigns and there are scams.

We can't really blame legit bounty hunters who got scammed. Likewise, we can't really blame legit bounty campaigns from taking measures taking measures against all these frauds. Unfortunately, legit hunters get caught in the crossfire.

Your opinion is quite superb. Yes there are always bad eggs in every crate, it can't be avoided. But the reality of the matter is this bad eggs are affecting the good ones. This is where the problem lies.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: PRIBO247 on November 17, 2018, 01:21:39 PM
Thats case is just a minor to result into mistreated by the campaign admin. There are more issues to be considered because sometimes bounty hunters do what they like to do without knowing what is the proper action to be done.

I beg to disagree with you here. In every campaign, the rules are set for all to follow. If you say bounty hunters don't know what the are doing that will not be correct. Some just don't care that their actions affect others.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: bubblebubble on November 17, 2018, 01:23:28 PM
Today we see an increase of mistreatment towards bounty hunters from projects and we tend to blame the project manager for being wicked. But looking at it from another angle, what of fraudulent bounty hunters who register in a bounty project with multiple accounts, steal another person's details to use for a bounty or even check the submitted work of another hunter and copies it as his/her own? Don't you think some of this behaviours from bounty hunters is the reason we are being mistreated? Let's talk about it.

This could not be an excuse because is in charge of bounty managers, find cheaters and exclude them from campaigns.
And methods are a lot, so if Bounty Manager is unfit, honest bounty hunters can pay for all!
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: PRIBO247 on November 17, 2018, 01:25:34 PM
Yes, I agree with you. If I were a campaign manager, a large number of scammers would have upset me. But I would never react badly to honest bounty hunters, because you need to control your emotions.

This is where managers of campaign need to work on. You don't lump everyone together and punish all. They need to find a way of weeding out the fraudulent from the genuine.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: Adp on November 17, 2018, 01:28:06 PM
using multiple account that would be something that manager bounty know easily
they can use or check one by one if the accouynt real or not
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: Zed0X on November 17, 2018, 01:58:45 PM
Don't you think some of this behaviours from bounty hunters is the reason we are being mistreated?
Bounty teams reacts accordingly on the behaviors of bounty hunters. If there are fraudulent attempts, then expect a hard response to counter such attempts. If I am a bounty manager, it would not be easy for me to handle hundreds or even thousands of applications and I would also be frustrated if I find out that a lot of these entries are frauds.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: sampoerna on December 05, 2018, 10:42:09 AM
using multiple account that would be something that manager bounty know easily
they can use or check one by one if the accouynt real or not

It is easy if the bounty manager works correctly. But in fact, there are many bounty managers not taking attention to the participants. They only count stakes based on the weekly post and never check participants' profile.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: PRIBO247 on December 05, 2018, 02:16:07 PM
using multiple account that would be something that manager bounty know easily
they can use or check one by one if the accouynt real or not

It is easy if the bounty manager works correctly. But in fact, there are many bounty managers not taking attention to the participants. They only count stakes based on the weekly post and never check participants' profile.

Managing a campaign where there are over a thousand people involved is never easy my friend. Though I do agree with you that ,most of the managers are just plain lazy when it comes to doing the right thing.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: laughingburger on December 05, 2018, 05:43:20 PM
Today we see an increase of mistreatment towards bounty hunters from projects and we tend to blame the project manager for being wicked. But looking at it from another angle, what of fraudulent bounty hunters who register in a bounty project with multiple accounts, steal another person's details to use for a bounty or even check the submitted work of another hunter and copies it as his/her own? Don't you think some of this behaviours from bounty hunters is the reason we are being mistreated? Let's talk about it.

This can be the case, however i think the most responsibility lies with the bounty manager at the same time bounty hunters should not have foul plays. We must understand that there can be 1000 bounty hunters and only one bounty manger in one project, they can be seen as wicked to you but is the fact that they are very busy handling the bounty.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: Nolbertino on December 05, 2018, 06:45:22 PM
It might be worth blaming those who try to cheat and those who commit fraud using the ICO project. And this also depends on us, we must also be careful of a lot of cheating. And don't blame managers because they have very positive goals. It's just that managers also sometimes don't know that he was also cheated.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: Nestle on December 05, 2018, 07:07:20 PM
all depends on how the bounty manager and bounty participants act fairly. I've seen fraudulent bounty managers and bounty hunters who have many accounts. I've always seen everything during my time at the bounty.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: eidoscore on December 05, 2018, 07:23:12 PM
no i think the hunter not give the impact in market, because in bounty campaign, developer from the projet just allocated 0,5-2% allocation from their coin supply or token sold, that's why this is not effect in market
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: gotbounty on December 05, 2018, 10:30:35 PM
You're right. I think that the regulation of the bounty that the participant cannot use the multiple accounts should be obey. Well, we cannot stop them and we mya don't know about them. but, one of the ways is by using KYC process to limit the multiple accounts. Bounty is however still elgit for some, but of course, we must be smart in choosing the legit one and be patient to hold the rewards until the bull run.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: Annalise on December 05, 2018, 11:27:39 PM
Yes. I agree with your assertion but I do think that bounty managers should devise a way of getting people who carry out this crimes punished instead of blanket punishment of bounty hunters.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: aldenlim on December 06, 2018, 02:49:37 AM
Today we see an increase of mistreatment towards bounty hunters from projects and we tend to blame the project manager for being wicked. But looking at it from another angle, what of fraudulent bounty hunters who register in a bounty project with multiple accounts, steal another person's details to use for a bounty or even check the submitted work of another hunter and copies it as his/her own? Don't you think some of this behaviours from bounty hunters is the reason we are being mistreated? Let's talk about it.
I also experienced some kind of mistreatment because of others fault, those people who use multiple accounts in
a bounty and those people who plagiarize contents on article creation this are the ones that ruin the image of a
bounty participant. But bounty management team should create a solution with this kind of issues because it is
their work to identify these fraudulent people who intend to cheat on campaigns and there are a lot of ways to
identify them if those bounty managers will not be lazy to do it or implement it on their campaigns.

The blame is not on professional bounty participants, the blame is on fraudulent bounty participants that ruin
the bounty system with their plague-like behavior.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: yitzjoe on December 06, 2018, 02:53:12 AM
what I see is globally even though they cheat with multiple accounts and many more but they still carry out bounty tasks which are promotions and this for me is still good than nothing. but cheating must still be deceived and acted fairly
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: Dprincebh on December 06, 2018, 04:58:27 AM
Not all people are the same. Due to some scammers the blame doesn't have to fall on the others. Those caught cheating should be banned for good. But mistreating the bounty hunters isn't fair enough, because they help out a lot
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: PRIBO247 on December 08, 2018, 12:38:23 PM
Not all people are the same. Due to some scammers the blame doesn't have to fall on the others. Those caught cheating should be banned for good. But mistreating the bounty hunters isn't fair enough, because they help out a lot

This is like the case of the oil on one finger staining the rest.
I believe both the hunters and the bounty managers each have a role to play.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: bubblebubble on December 08, 2018, 03:37:31 PM
Bounty managers have to own tools to identify cheaters and scammers to avoid honest partecipants penalizations.
If they haven't, better not participate!
For this reason I work only with note Bounty companies.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: MUGNIA on December 08, 2018, 03:45:12 PM
What persecution?
if a hunter steals data for his own sake, it is not persecution but cheating is not the manager's fault if in my opinion
one individual wants money but does not want to try to work honestly
to avoid cheating, the manger should have a tool to select data so as not to double the account
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: Falcon on December 08, 2018, 05:06:16 PM
Somehow both parties have a fault. Managers are there to manage the campaign and not to answer the repeated and repeated quarries. They are also human with emotions and limitation. Actually, we cannot blame either bounty hunters or managers.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: Ozark on December 10, 2018, 02:18:08 AM
Today we see an increase of mistreatment towards bounty hunters from projects and we tend to blame the project manager for being wicked. But looking at it from another angle, what of fraudulent bounty hunters who register in a bounty project with multiple accounts, steal another person's details to use for a bounty or even check the submitted work of another hunter and copies it as his/her own? Don't you think some of this behaviours from bounty hunters is the reason we are being mistreated? Let's talk about it.

I think that's the reason why KYC is implemented to combat multiple accounts. Bounty participants hate KYC but you can't blame projects' owners for implementing it the blame should be

I think that's why KYC has been implemented to fight multiple accounts. Bounty participants don't like the idea of KYC but you can not blame projects owners as they're only protecting their interests the blame should go to those idiot fraudulent bounty hunters.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: PRIBO247 on December 11, 2018, 01:21:41 PM
Today we see an increase of mistreatment towards bounty hunters from projects and we tend to blame the project manager for being wicked. But looking at it from another angle, what of fraudulent bounty hunters who register in a bounty project with multiple accounts, steal another person's details to use for a bounty or even check the submitted work of another hunter and copies it as his/her own? Don't you think some of this behaviours from bounty hunters is the reason we are being mistreated? Let's talk about it.

I think that's the reason why KYC is implemented to combat multiple accounts. Bounty participants hate KYC but you can't blame projects' owners for implementing it the blame should be

I think that's why KYC has been implemented to fight multiple accounts. Bounty participants don't like the idea of KYC but you can not blame projects owners as they're only protecting their interests the blame should go to those idiot fraudulent bounty hunters.

With kyc. your information can be sold you know.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: sidkz on May 21, 2019, 07:47:24 AM
bounty managers work to check member data
I have come across so many times that other members used my data
but the manager has always found these scammers and excluded them.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: gurunanakji777 on May 21, 2019, 08:26:07 AM
Its very bad many scammers are taking parts in bounties with multiple fake Acs and they copy and send the others bounty work. But for this they don't have right to mistreat the genuine bounty hunters the best way is to avoid such problem add authentication post link & telegram auth post link in the joining form of the bounty that way bounty manager can avoid the scammers to some extent even some managers are doing it but I see even they are also ignorant in one bounty scammers got reward instead of me even I had the proof of authentication post and bounty manager said now he can not do anything final sheet has been sent to the distribution team and no changes can be done now. So bounty managers should also be more sincere in their work to avoid such frauds.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: trauchot on May 21, 2019, 09:52:46 AM
Of course, it is, in fact, but many scammers can be easily calculated all the time, and in general more and more bounty companies under the conditions indicate kyc, so a lot of scammers are eliminated at the end.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: zilzylian on May 21, 2019, 10:16:34 AM
I think the Bounty Manager makes regulations on each project they manage, I never complain if I am wrong and they have strict regulations, but in this forum, the BOUNTY manager must read this Regulation if managing bounties with KYC
https://www.altcoinstalks.com/index.php?topic=39008.0
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: aji678 on May 21, 2019, 01:43:31 PM
in my opinion it depends on the bounty hunter, if the intention is good to encourage the ongoing project then you will get the same. but if you steal people's details then that is entirely your own fault and we must correct together.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: sturec22 on May 21, 2019, 11:08:50 PM
I don't think that all bounty hunters are evil or angels. Both bounty hunters and the developers and the bounty managers have mistakes. Some bounty hunters manipulate the campaigns but there are really hardworking bounty hunters which deserve good earnings such as me :)
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: diygirl on May 21, 2019, 11:31:21 PM
A bounty hunter who uses multi-accounts can say that he made a mistake and violated the rules that have been set by the Bounty Manager. Likewise, bounty hunters do not carry out tasks in accordance with applicable rules. Then they won't get rewards. And when they ask and protest about it, it's their fault. However, if bounty hunters have done a task in accordance with the rules and other regulations, then it is highly entitled to request their rewards. And when they don't get their rights, it's only natural that they get angry at the Bounty Manager who in fact has the authority and responsibility for that.
Title: Re: Is It The Bounty Hunter's Fault?
Post by: alfatih99 on May 23, 2019, 12:17:34 AM
it is true that at this very moment there are very many bounty hunter behaviors, and it is very disturbing to bounty hunters who really work.