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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency Trading => Cryptocurrency Price Speculations => Topic started by: zeosX on December 20, 2018, 02:24:58 PM
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The stock market crashing is the number 1 sign of a crypto bull run, it's coming!!! also, stocks is pumped through fiat money. In times like this, people will look for gold, silver and even crypto!
and look at the short altcoins boom, and also because people are running away from stocks right now!! this is a good sign that the sec will approve the ETF and bakkt will be launched, to drive BTC to a massive ATH.
Think about it guys, why would they launch ETF and bakkt in a bear market? why SEC keeps delaying etf when they can just reject it straightaway? they know it will have no effect on the price when the market is still bearish and no 1 is buying btc, now with this stock market crash will be perfect time for them to launch!! expect btc to go to the moon!!
i dont think btc will even shoot past 20k in a bear market even with an ETF if sec was to approve it back then. The market has to be bullish first!
it's no coincidence that this stock market crash lines up perfectly with the last deadline for ETF, it's a heavily manipulated market!
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I am really curious with your analysis. It looks like very reasonable, I assume your analysis is perfectly correct. SEC should plan something by delaying ETF proposal, and not reject it directly. It is very interested to monitor the progress of ETF proposal submission.
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So are you saying people are selling their shares (stocks) so they can invest in Bitcoin because they know ETF and Bakkt will be approved?
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I hope that is true. As of now we saw a huge comeback and we even surpass $4000 btc.. I hope the trend will continue so that we will have a happy Christmas.
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I think the bull is far away from us. Until the end of 2019, the bull will not arrive because all markets are down and people do not invest anymore. I hope you are right and after ETF and bakkt decisions, the cryptocurrency market will suddenly increase. But it is looking impossible at least for now.
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I am really curious with your analysis. It looks like very reasonable, I assume your analysis is perfectly correct. SEC should plan something by delaying ETF proposal, and not reject it directly. It is very interested to monitor the progress of ETF proposal submission.
yes! they are planning to accept in by Feb which is in 2019.
So are you saying people are selling their shares (stocks) so they can invest in Bitcoin because they know ETF and Bakkt will be approved?
its just panic sellers want a piece of bitcoin, the money on stock market has to go somewhere.
I hope that is true. As of now we saw a huge comeback and we even surpass $4000 btc.. I hope the trend will continue so that we will have a happy Christmas.
yes! we can even surpass more!
I think the bull is far away from us. Until the end of 2019, the bull will not arrive because all markets are down and people do not invest anymore. I hope you are right and after ETF and bakkt decisions, the cryptocurrency market will suddenly increase. But it is looking impossible at least for now.
u underestimated how powerful ETF and bakkt is. the money from stocks have to go somewhere.
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and look at the short altcoins boom, and also because people are running away from stocks right now!! this is a good sign that the sec will approve the ETF and bakkt will be launched, to drive BTC to a massive ATH.
This is pure speculation. How is people running away from stocks even a sign that SEC will approve ETF and BAKKT? How are they even related? Will SEC base their decision on what's happening on the stock market?
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Of course, I agree that the market has chances for growth with bakkt exchange, but the SEC will most likely postpone their decision again, maybe in 2019 the SEC will give their answer because the cryptocurrency will be regulated by the governments.
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Everything is connected solely with the desire of investors who kept a large number of coins, somehow improve performance.
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I don't have any idea for speculation right now. I have seen so many predictions but all of them ended with nothing. I am also not really sure if the launch of ETF proposal and bakkt may be the strong signal for bullrun. I just define the bullrun from the rise of prices significantly.
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if the prediction of BAKKT, SEC ETF is a big scenario to make the crypto price again, then we just need to wait, because the investment takes time and also patience to achieve the value we expect
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and look at the short altcoins boom, and also because people are running away from stocks right now!! this is a good sign that the sec will approve the ETF and bakkt will be launched, to drive BTC to a massive ATH.
This is pure speculation. How is people running away from stocks even a sign that SEC will approve ETF and BAKKT? How are they even related? Will SEC base their decision on what's happening on the stock market?
i just think that ETF and BAKKT will be launched when there is enough initial gas. So that it can be pumped up to the moon!
Of course, I agree that the market has chances for growth with bakkt exchange, but the SEC will most likely postpone their decision again, maybe in 2019 the SEC will give their answer because the cryptocurrency will be regulated by the governments.
i think Feb 2019 is their last deadline. They have to either approve it or disapprove.
I don't have any idea for speculation right now. I have seen so many predictions but all of them ended with nothing. I am also not really sure if the launch of ETF proposal and bakkt may be the strong signal for bullrun. I just define the bullrun from the rise of prices significantly.
BTC went from 6k to 20k with the launching of Futures. ETF and BAKKT is more than enough for BTC.
if the prediction of BAKKT, SEC ETF is a big scenario to make the crypto price again, then we just need to wait, because the investment takes time and also patience to achieve the value we expect
Yes, both are big events
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it is possible to think logically, the cryptocurrency did not grow in price for a very long time, but on the contrary continued to fall, it is clear that growth should begin soon
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One of the reason why bull run Will soon be real is because investors have started investing into crypto market
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Your vision of the situation is very interesting, and I quite agree with some points, but I can’t say anything about the collapse of the market because I don’t have any data!
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Bitcoin breaks another resistance once more toward the highest worth once more. i can not agree if this is often another bulltrap. It shows that the chart of bitcoin gets plenty of support. i suppose 3k ought to be the underside for this year. Next year ought to become the recovery time for crypto.
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It is very interesting to see the market recovery as soon as possible.
Your analysis is quite good to understand the bull from crash. Basically, no crash if there's no bull. So no bull if there's no crash.
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Let's look at the situation optimally, this is a common attempt to make money on people at the end of the year. It's possible there'll be a collapse soon.
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The stock market crashing is the number 1 sign of a crypto bull run, it's coming!!! also, stocks is pumped through fiat money. In times like this, people will look for gold, silver and even crypto!
and look at the short altcoins boom, and also because people are running away from stocks right now!! this is a good sign that the sec will approve the ETF and bakkt will be launched, to drive BTC to a massive ATH.
Think about it guys, why would they launch ETF and bakkt in a bear market? why SEC keeps delaying etf when they can just reject it straightaway? they know it will have no effect on the price when the market is still bearish and no 1 is buying btc, now with this stock market crash will be perfect time for them to launch!! expect btc to go to the moon!!
i dont think btc will even shoot past 20k in a bear market even with an ETF if sec was to approve it back then. The market has to be bullish first!
it's no coincidence that this stock market crash lines up perfectly with the last deadline for ETF, it's a heavily manipulated market!
Well I love your instincts and you are right in some of your messages. Alas, we are hoping that the market gets better to start with
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The stock market crashing is the number 1 sign of a crypto bull run, it's coming!!! also, stocks is pumped through fiat money. In times like this, people will look for gold, silver and even crypto!
and look at the short altcoins boom, and also because people are running away from stocks right now!! this is a good sign that the sec will approve the ETF and bakkt will be launched, to drive BTC to a massive ATH.
Think about it guys, why would they launch ETF and bakkt in a bear market? why SEC keeps delaying etf when they can just reject it straightaway? they know it will have no effect on the price when the market is still bearish and no 1 is buying btc, now with this stock market crash will be perfect time for them to launch!! expect btc to go to the moon!!
i dont think btc will even shoot past 20k in a bear market even with an ETF if sec was to approve it back then. The market has to be bullish first!
it's no coincidence that this stock market crash lines up perfectly with the last deadline for ETF, it's a heavily manipulated market!
Your opinion might be correct but we also cannot deny the fact that market might just make a deeper drop with a more powerful bear and not the arrival of the bull.
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The stock market crashing is the number 1 sign of a crypto bull run, it's coming!!! also, stocks is pumped through fiat money. In times like this, people will look for gold, silver and even crypto!
and look at the short altcoins boom, and also because people are running away from stocks right now!! this is a good sign that the sec will approve the ETF and bakkt will be launched, to drive BTC to a massive ATH.
Think about it guys, why would they launch ETF and bakkt in a bear market? why SEC keeps delaying etf when they can just reject it straightaway? they know it will have no effect on the price when the market is still bearish and no 1 is buying btc, now with this stock market crash will be perfect time for them to launch!! expect btc to go to the moon!!
i dont think btc will even shoot past 20k in a bear market even with an ETF if sec was to approve it back then. The market has to be bullish first!
it's no coincidence that this stock market crash lines up perfectly with the last deadline for ETF, it's a heavily manipulated market!
I my opinion It just small pump.. Maybe It is a healy manipulated market. because I see the crypto market is goung down again now.
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The stock market crashing is the number 1 sign of a crypto bull run, it's coming!!! also, stocks is pumped through fiat money. In times like this, people will look for gold, silver and even crypto!
and look at the short altcoins boom, and also because people are running away from stocks right now!! this is a good sign that the sec will approve the ETF and bakkt will be launched, to drive BTC to a massive ATH.
Think about it guys, why would they launch ETF and bakkt in a bear market? why SEC keeps delaying etf when they can just reject it straightaway? they know it will have no effect on the price when the market is still bearish and no 1 is buying btc, now with this stock market crash will be perfect time for them to launch!! expect btc to go to the moon!!
i dont think btc will even shoot past 20k in a bear market even with an ETF if sec was to approve it back then. The market has to be bullish first!
it's no coincidence that this stock market crash lines up perfectly with the last deadline for ETF, it's a heavily manipulated market!
In my opinion, High volatile in crypto currency is normal. I think the bulls are not starting real soon. It is just small pump.
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I don't agree with you that stock crashing will bull the market or any ETF will bull it also has they are just a reason for people like you to fomo and the whales use that to take advantage of the noobs and dump on them , and don't be surprise that that etf you talking about can be push to 2020-2021 when I believe to have real time for bull and will be another excuse for bull , the bear and bull are two side which has their time and now we have bear and bull will also come but not now.
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Actually the 1 reason why the bulls are starting real soon because of the unite of all leaders in this programs can make it be back into a higher prices so that the investors will be remain as continued there support in the crypto and many programs joined in the bounty projects to promete there new projects.
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I'm quite confident that when bakkt will be really launched there will be a big bull run because many big investments will enter in crypto.
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We had been waiting for the bull run for a long time, but it seems it is on it's way coming. Just a matter a small time, I agreed with you the stock market crashing the crypto market will boom
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You're right, there are lots of reasons to be optimistic for this next year! People have oversold crypto all year and I think people are salivating at the chance to make some huge profits in the space.
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Yes, I also think so, like there are those who manipulate the market, so the crypto market becomes worse like this, even as ICO projects 98% fail all of them, maybe investors with large funds play a market that impacts all marketing activities to decline.
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Nice scenario about the impending bull run effect. But is it too early to assume these stuff? Considering the market has played some role on lowering the market cap? Anyway, we now see some countries are very dedicated on cryptocurrency growth.
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Seen some positive signs recently looks like a slow turning around is in the progress, we'll see.
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You are sharp-witted and I agree with your thoughts, but it's only a part of fundamental analysis. To make an reasonable conclusion we haven't enogh information. So your scenario is possible to, but how it's would be in real, what SEC will do we would see only in future.
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It looks like very reasonable, I assume your analysis is perfectly correct. SEC should plan something by delaying ETF proposal, and not reject it directly. It is very interested to monitor the progress of ETF proposal submission.
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Predictions and critical analysis doesn't mean the fact. Somehow nobody can predict the exact things to come which I think reliable not to trust any predictions. Bull run can happen accordingly to what the whales planned because it is possible that every market activities are in their hands. Possible in SEC there are belong to the club of whales.
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Cryptocurrency is not the asset in which investors decide to invest a big hand in the collapse of the entire market.
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yes! they are planning to accept in by Feb which is in 2019.
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Where do you get the information? Is it a valid guess, friend? I am surprised you said a very clear time. If SEC can accept ETF proposal on February, it may trigger to significant increases for most coins, especially for Bitcoin.
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I hope that the forecast of the author will be true and soon we will see a bull market. Indeed, many investors are waiting for news about ETF, BAKKT and if they are accepted it will positively affect the cryptocurrency market.
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~snip~Indeed, many investors are waiting for news about ETF, BAKKT and if they are accepted it will positively affect the cryptocurrency market.
It is true, all people are waiting for the progress of ETF and BAKKT. If those are accepted, it should give big impacts to market. There will be an increase to a whole cryptocurrency yet the news brings much influences in crypto market.
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I have seen so many predictions but all of them ended with nothing. I am also not really sure if the launch of ETF proposal and bakkt may be the strong signal for bullrun. I just define the bullrun from the rise of prices significantly.
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Why do you put gold, silver and Bitcoin in one row? So far, bitcoin cannot be equated with Them, at least in terms of volatility and trading volumes.
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The crypto market has not been able to become a safe haven where institutional investors can survive all the fluctuations in the securities market.
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Etf and bakkt will not help the bull to come. If you read the news, President Putin of russia are working with Neo. I think if RUssia will come, billions of money woll enter into crypto.
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Etf and bakkt will not help the bull to come. If you read the news, President Putin of russia are working with Neo. I think if RUssia will come, billions of money woll enter into crypto.
Are you sure if Mr President Putin is working with Neo? What kind of contribution will be given by Mr President? Can you share the valid link of the news? It should be a big news if the news is correct and valid.
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An interesting point of view and I don’t mind if that’s how it all happened and what you’re talking about helped to finally launch the market growth process, though not a big one!
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What will happen if it is not a market crash, but only a correction? Then the money as quickly came, so quickly and will leave our industry.
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Predictions and critical analysis doesn't mean the fact. Somehow nobody can predict the exact things to come which I think reliable not to trust any predictions. Bull run can happen accordingly to what the whales planned because it is possible that every market activities are in their hands. Possible in SEC there are belong to the club of whales.
Old players in stock markets say: "buy on the rumor, sell on the fact". This means that, ETF delays are the rumor phase and it is good for buying. When SEC will accept the ETF, this is the fact, and it is time to sell. I think that the wales are buying slowly now, and the bull run, will be before ETF acceptance.
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yeah I agree with your thoughts. I am sure that crypto prices will increase and in the future, crypto will be more widely used by people. currently it is very good to add coins that have the potential to increase in the future.
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BAKKT has been postponed to march, I agree that the bull will start soon but not so soon. I think not before march. We have to follow the news really carefully and stay away from FUD and FOMO as much as possible.
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BAKKT has been postponed to march, I agree that the bull will start soon but not so soon. ~snip~
I agree, the bullrun looks like to not appear so soon. Look at the current market condition, it doesn't indicate the bullrun already approaching. We shouldn't be panic to conclude that the bullrun will happen in the near future.
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in my opinion, do not pay attention to the forecasts of experienced investors, because the cryptocurrency market can not be predicted, it has already been proved
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The presence of ETF recently is commonly considered as the sign of the bullrun. However, it has started some months ago. They always say about the bullrun coming soon, but it never happens. I personally don't really believe that it will come sooner as I think. Seeing the market, this is still very hard for them to bullrun. I think it is better to think about how to increase the market progress.
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This issue has been a topic several times in various media and forums, but the fact is that until now there has not been a good increase in market prices.
I see this will be the best choice for HODL Bitcoin and don't sell it at cheap prices.
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If they come, it will be a sharp increase of several thousand dollars, which nothing can stop. I believe in it.
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Personally, I read all this as fairy tales, because the bulls were not and it looks like the memories of the past.
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The stock market crashing is the number 1 sign of a crypto bull run, it's coming!!! also, stocks is pumped through fiat money. In times like this, people will look for gold, silver and even crypto!
and look at the short altcoins boom, and also because people are running away from stocks right now!! this is a good sign that the sec will approve the ETF and bakkt will be launched, to drive BTC to a massive ATH.
Think about it guys, why would they launch ETF and bakkt in a bear market? why SEC keeps delaying etf when they can just reject it straightaway? they know it will have no effect on the price when the market is still bearish and no 1 is buying btc, now with this stock market crash will be perfect time for them to launch!! expect btc to go to the moon!!
i dont think btc will even shoot past 20k in a bear market even with an ETF if sec was to approve it back then. The market has to be bullish first!
it's no coincidence that this stock market crash lines up perfectly with the last deadline for ETF, it's a heavily manipulated market!
I hope It will happen soon, the bulls are starting real soon. But I see the price of crypto currency is still unstable.
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Bulls have become quite lazy over the past year, so it is hard to believe that they can come to the market in the near future.
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Do you want to say that the introduction of ETF will have a positive impact on the growth of the cryptocurrency? What about building infrastructure?
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They have no particular reason to enter the market right now, when many are really waiting for this and hope for their arrival.
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Although you have described all this, we all understand that it is all so unlikely and is influenced by a group of people.
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Bulls have become quite lazy over the past year, so it is hard to believe that they can come to the market in the near future.
Agree with you. I don't think the bullrun will come so soon. Since the market always drops more deep and no signs for better improvement, it seems hard to hope the bull in the near future. We may think it happens in middle of this year.
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2019 makes me wait for a bull run and until now there has been no news that there will be an increase in Bitcoin prices this year, ETFs make everyone expect the Bitcoin exchange rate to rise and I am still waiting for that to happen
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You forget that in order for institutional investors to come to this industry, it is necessary to create infrastructure.
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I don't see until now the real reason to see the bull soon. I think the time for bullrun is still far away. Market still needs longer time to recover. I see the market doesn't recover yet, so the chance for bullrun will be so little.
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Really?
Well, somebody also said about bullrun will come soon last year. until now, it is still in the dump market. I personally really think that bullrun will not happen in this year. It will probably need more years to rise up and then face bullrun. Hopefully at least 2021 we can gain better market.