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Crypto Discussion Forum => Cryptocurrency discussions => Topic started by: ayatoslaw on January 04, 2019, 05:43:51 PM
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lots of people say, that coins are hard because the memory has crashed, and the way to raise the price is by doing hardfork,
but does it really need to be done?
if I see hardfork sometimes it must be needed if indeed the coin has many disadvantages,
and with hardfork, hopefully the coins can get better.
what do you think?
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lots of people say, that coins are hard because the memory has crashed, and the way to raise the price is by doing hardfork,
but does it really need to be done?
if I see hardfork sometimes it must be needed if indeed the coin has many disadvantages,
and with hardfork, hopefully the coins can get better.
what do you think?
I think that hard forks, just settle up things when there are disagreements between different groups about the future steps of a cryptocurrency. This helps a lot because the new coins created, have their own properties and market finds the correct prices for each coin
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but the fact is if hardfork occurs, most of the coins get a large amount of volume so the price will increase instantly. it happens when bitcoin experiences hardfork, BCH and later ethereum will experience the same thing.
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lots of people say, that coins are hard because the memory has crashed,
Can you explain what do you even mean by this sentence? It does not make sense to me at all.
if I see hardfork sometimes it must be needed if indeed the coin has many disadvantages, and with hardfork, hopefully the coins can get better.
It's not necessarily because it has many disadvantages. It's also because developers cannot reach a consensus on the direction of the project so the team had no other choice but to split.
Boosting price is not the main intention of hardforks. It is the community who takes advantage of such event to get some kind of free coins.
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Yes is not, but its relate to blockchain technology, it is a radical change to the protocol that makes previous invalid blockchain and transactions to be valid (vice versa).
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lots of people say, that coins are hard because the memory has crashed, and the way to raise the price is by doing hardfork,
but does it really need to be done?
if I see hardfork sometimes it must be needed if indeed the coin has many disadvantages,
and with hardfork, hopefully the coins can get better.
what do you think?
Agree. If a hardfork is necessary due to lack of or disadvantages in technology, after hardfork we may expect a rise in price. But nowadays teams mostly want hardfork without any logical reasons except for boosting the price for short-term,
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I don't understand why is hard forks even mentioned to be the reason for a price pump. This is technological, and we know almost all of the investors are here for the money. so...
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Here is a pretty moot point, because the whole period when it happened, all had fairly small size and whales can manipulate.
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Hardfork is one way to improve it to be more perfect, so I think it's right to do it when the conditions get worse.
Thank you.
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The price increase of a coin due to hardfork is just an effect. I do not think it is the main reason why project teams had to come to that decision.
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Why, then, statistics show us that it is after these events that the growth of the entire market and Bitcoin in particular begins?
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This topic s a honest truth told, the hardfork of any cryptocurrency s not to boost market price, but some of us don't see that way.
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The hardfork probably will give the effect on the market, commonly and normally it will help the market booster. however, for now, there is no hardfork. I have ever heard about the Ethereum hardfork, but I don't think that is. It is only shit hardfork or others.
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Yes, boosting the price should not be the reason for having hardforks but you cannot really blame other people from taking advantage of that free coins that they get as a result of a hardfork.
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It is actually not a market boost, it is just a protocol change or software upgrade that makes old rules obsolete and uses the new code base as the driving force, this is called a hard fork.
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Well, in a technological view, yes you are right. However we saw so many times that hard fork affected the market value.
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Well, it may be right. The hardfork that leads the bullrun maybe only for some coins that really have good influence inn the market. However, I'm pretty sure that the hardfork of BTC or ETH is happening and their price is increasing, it will give the good influence on the market overall.
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Hardfork is a lot of it.
HArfork network repair.
HArdfork changes wallet.
HArdfork 1: 1 with a new Coin.
And there are still a lot of other items and the fact is that Hardfork only gives a slight price increase and then after the hardfork the price drops again.
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lots of people say, that coins are hard because the memory has crashed, and the way to raise the price is by doing hardfork,
but does it really need to be done?
if I see hardfork sometimes it must be needed if indeed the coin has many disadvantages,
and with hardfork, hopefully the coins can get better.
what do you think?
Some times many coins copied or hard fork influences the total market caps and capacity. I.e bitcoin cash sv and bitcoin cash abc can create a great influence of total market caps.
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Hardfork is indeed good to increase the price of coins, but there are hardforks that fail and make the price of hardfork coins drop because there are some problems, I think the price of coins will increase if all countries legalize crypto transactions and make many people need crypto
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I've never been a fan of hardforks... I guess it give dissenters or people that don't agree with the main vision of the token an outlet. Ethereum Classic and Bitcoin Cash have been fairly successful... but I don't support either one of them.
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Be honest with what you see. The graphs show us the direct relationship between these events, so you should not doubt it.
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If it has some spec or technique problems, you can hardfork. But never do hardfork only because of price. Persevere.
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I think there is truth in your words, especially if we take into account the fact that then the market was not so developed and it was easy to manipulate.
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There is no way hardfork is needed to boost the market price. That is ridiculous. Hardfork commonly gives a short bull run because people will return trading to it after the hardfork. But with ethereum's coming hardfork, it is just more like an upgrade and not a real forking.
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I think this is the reason that the elite of the crypto world wants to show us, but in fact, there are other factors behind the growth of capitalization.
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Personally, I also do not see obvious reasons to believe in the growth of the market after this event, but the statistics tell us otherwise.
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Hardfork does not mean we will get new coin always as we recently seen Ethereum hardfork was expected last week but it has postponed to next undecided date even we know ethereum constantinople hardfork is for to increase the ethereum network speed and to reduce the transaction fees of eth network. I don't agree hardfork is for boosting the price we saw recently BCH hardfork obviously BCH rose aggresively but my friend it crashed as well with double speed so hard fork is not boosting the market unless it is regarding for development of the project.
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I don’t know exactly for what purposes make hardfork, but usually due to the fact that some people leave the team, always in teams the opinion is divided into two sides and disputes always begin.
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Hardfork will always affect prices whether it is a Hardfork to fix flows or it is a Hardfork to make a split coin and in both cases, the price will go up. When we talk about Hardfork for fixing flow it is normal that the coin that just got fixed to rise in price because it is positive news. And with Hardfork to make split coin the prices also will increase because people will always want free money and this split coin is just free money so people will chase it and that will drive the prices to rise.
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It is the traders who FOMO that tries to boost the price of a coin that's having a hardfork in exchange for free coins.
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I think that most of hardfork are controversial and unpredictable...let's see for examble BITCOIN when it hardforket to BITCOIN CASH and compared to last BITCOIN CASH hardfork.... personally I never move my coins or buy/sell them when there is an hardfork and I prefer to watch.
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The current example is ETH's new hard forks. I don't see a big impact from those forks. Moreover, because of scam issues, the price of Ethereum was getting down. Hard forks is not always to boost prices, it is also possible to reduce investor's interest.
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many are divided into two sides, some say that after the hard fork market will grow and the second say that the coin will fall in price, I come to those who say that the coin will grow in price
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The hardfork may occur on some coins, so far the news is about the hardfork of Bitcoin and Ethereum. In my opinion, the hardfork of both BTC and ETH will help to increase the price or value of the two. In addition, so far, the altcoins will really depend on those two crypto. Therefore, when their price is increasing, it can influence the other altcoins to price up.
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it's true that I think hardfork is really needed to increase the quality of these coins and that can also increase the price of coins.
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"hopefully the coins can get better"I think indirectly this also affects the price of coins because the quality is also getting better. even though in the present condition the market is bearish, but with the improvement of technology to be better, of course in the future will make prices soar again.
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This may not be a clear reason for the overall rise of the market, but there is a direct correlation between these events.
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Sometimes, I also have the similar thought of this. Hardfork is only for the certain coins. However, when the hardfork really happens to the Bitcoin or Ethereum, it will influence the other altcoin prices. Commonly after the hardfork, the price of ETH or BTC will increase higher. But, that is what happened in some years ago. not know about now.
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It cannot attract so many investors that will lead to the overall growth of the market, but people believe in it.
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The current example is ETH's new hard forks. I don't see a big impact from those forks. Moreover, because of scam issues, the price of Ethereum was getting down. Hard forks is not always to boost prices, it is also possible to reduce investor's interest.
Ethereum's hardfork is going to be different from other hardforks. There are no free coins or tokens offered.
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Well, maybe yes maybe no, it depends on the place where you are standing. I mean, the bears and the bulls.
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many analysts say that after this usually there is a decrease in the price of the coin, but I do not agree, there were some good coins that after the forkа rose in price
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As a rule, hard forks are made for various reasons, but in order for the hard forks to start to grow, salvage is not always the case, especially in the case of BCH forks, in this case the society split on the contrary, and this negatively played on prices!
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Hardfork is good progress for crypto technology and developers want the best, so far we can see examples of coins that have done hard work, like Bitcoin cash which recently did it, but still has the same price. think hardfork has a good goal besides increasing the price of coins on the market
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Isn't it due to the fact that people don't understand how the whole industry is growing and how the market capitalization is increasing?
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If we look at the past time period, we will understand that all previous growth jumps were associated with hardfork.
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That is only one reason for the price increase in the market but not always like that. There are many causes of market prices to increase sharply and quickly, among others, the existence of positive ball news about crypto which causes the transaction volume to be large.
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I think all the same at least some people he will attract to the market and help him to gain a little capitalization. It certainly won't be a blast, but even so a little bit will help.
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The most standard situation for people who know nothing about investing and the stages of the market life is to believe that everything depends on hardfork.
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That is only one reason for the price increase in the market but not always like that. There are many causes of market prices to increase sharply and quickly, among others, the existence of positive ball news about crypto which causes the transaction volume to be large.
Overall crypto positive news is clearly influential. Coupled with the existence of a fork, an increase in technology, increasingly making high market demand and prices clearly increased.
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It depends on what hardfork it is.
Knowing not all altcoins are worthy to create fork because creating another means new system, platform, expenses, and whatever likes star
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It's not that easy bro, there are a number of other things that can trigger an increase in the crypto market besides hardfork. Apart from that the demand and enthusiasm of the community in investing are very decisive in increasing the market.
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yes. I agree with you. Hard Fork is no reason to raise the price of a coin. in fact, when a hard fork occurs, the price of the coin will drop. for example nxt.
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Ethereum has already appeared on the market for quite a long time, and it seems to me that solving new problems that arise in front of a cryptocurrency creation of hard forks is a necessity!
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I believe that the hard fork will help facilitate cryptocurrency. And will help it more or less develop in the right direction.
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If we look at the past time period, we will understand that all previous growth jumps were associated with hardfork.
Hardfork is not an end in itself. It is carried out as a rule when there is an opportunity by creating a new coin to significantly improve the functionality of the old one. Of course, this event is a definite impetus to the development of cryptocurrency and contributes to the revival of its price.
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the way to raise the price is by doing hardfork,
Without support from exchanges, there is likely little or low value for the new token, and their is a risks the original coin price to drop.
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The increase in the price of coins requires support from investors,
this situation will increase trading volume and hardfork can also increase prices when the successful team does it
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Yes brother hard fork does matter in developing price in marketing sector. Bitcoin hard fork bitcoin cash sv and bitcoin cash abc are two important hard fork which makes bitcoin hamper instead of pumping or developing.
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Hardfork is a definite improvement or change. If this improvement is for the better, then this may well explain the change in price in the direction of enthusiasm. If the effect of the change is not - then the price should not increase
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Definitely its not! Hardfork is just a kind of ambition for me, a copycat from the existing one, and it was not directly influence the market price movements of cryptocurrency including coin/token prices.
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Really? So far, I think that hardfork may influence the market to boost. However yeah, it may only happen to some coins. BTC and ETH may be the only cryptocurrencies with very promising hardfork. Let's see how's the next.
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hardfork is not needed actually. Some teams are doing hardfork in order to copy most of the codes of another crypto. Actually it really depends on the community if the welcome hardfork coins. Like Litecoin, Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin SV. .
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most coins boost price by using the buy back option to limit the amount of coins in the market. simple economic called it demand and supply. while some burn there token tokens to reduce supply.
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Are you serious? So far, I think that the Bitcoin hard fork really can influence the market bullrun as happened in 2017. It was also one of the impacts of hardfork. However, of course, it only limited for the BTC hardfork, not for the other coins. And after hardfork, the value of the coin is increasing.
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Hardforks are only buy the rumor sell the news kinda events, one should not be really hopeful of that however if the bull season is on every new counts so they also boost the market
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Hardfork is also a cause of price increase because a lot of buyers trying to take advantage for free token or coins. Remember Bitcoin cash, and Bitcoin rally it price.
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coins that do hardforks think they will be able to push prices up by investors, but some of the hardfork fail, maybe everyone is looking forward to hardfork ethereum and I think there will indeed be an increase in prices for coins that do it or vice versa
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Hardfork is also a cause of price increase because a lot of buyers trying to take advantage for free token or coins. Remember Bitcoin cash, and Bitcoin rally it price.
Yes. This can happen, It will be there for a short period of time, because later, the market will balance to the new status. I the long run it will not affect the price very much.
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coins that do hardforks think they will be able to push prices up by investors, but some of the hardfork fail, maybe everyone is looking forward to hardfork ethereum and I think there will indeed be an increase in prices for coins that do it or vice versa
a few months ago I also thought like that,
but after seeing a lot of news and projects that do soft hardfork does not really affect market development, it is more about the products and usecase of coins that make a price increase on a project,
this gives the conclusion that investors are now more skilled in choosing investments that benefit long-term but clearly function.
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It depends on the development of the coin because I'm sure the coin that has Hardfork will also be the choice whether it's the Dump or Pump.
With Hardfork's strength like that, I am sure (in my opinion) will be able to increase at least 20% of the initial price.
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In 2017, BTC prices went up and people actually earned money with hardforks. (think about Bitcoin gold etc.) But ethereum classic etc. or other shitty forks are not worth it. And also there are some scam hardforks that wants to steal your private keys. Be aware.
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We have some examples of hardfork on crypto coins but currently, it seems not really to give an impact on prices. I am not sure with hardfork to boost market prices. The prices will depend on supply-demand on the market. Even if it is a hardfork but if people don't really be interested, it will bring nothing on prices.
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Hardforks doesn't make coins better in any way as what drives coins are the ideas behind them and the people behind the scene
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Hardforks doesn't make coins better in any way as what drives coins are the ideas behind them and the people behind the scene.
Hardfork of any coin attracts interest in it and raises its price in the short term, but after hardfork the price of coins often drops to the previous price. But in general, due to the mention of hardfork about the coin in the press, more people become aware of the coin and new investors appear.
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In addition, the result of a given hard fork would generally be as follows,
One blockchain becomes dominant, resulting in the other blockchain having low community adoption and, or value.
Both blockchains are adopted, but one is favored. One of the two chains becomes or remains the dominate chain in terms of adoption and value, but the other chain maintains a reasonable level of community support and value. Bitcoin Cash and Ethereum are great examples of a hard fork.
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You must remember that hardfork doesn't mean focusing on the improvement of crypto coin prices. So, we cannot blame the team if there is no improvement in coin prices during or after hardfork. However, it probably triggers the interest of investors and brings positive impacts to the prices.
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A hard coin fork is one of the ways to develop and improve cryptocurrency. However, in practice, the separation of one coin from another occurs for various reasons, although it is always claimed that this is done to improve the functionality of the coin. The price of the separated coin depends on how much the society perceives the need for a plug, as well as what tasks are solved and how much they are in demand. Many forks are held, and then almost nothing is heard about the created coins and they do not play any role. Users of a coin, from which another is separated, usually have a positive attitude towards holding a hard fork, since it is always an opportunity to get a certain amount of new coins for free.
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if a coin has good value and liquidity then there is no need to do hardfork. Hardfork is done for coins that allow coins to fall too deep and want to go back to the top.
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Agree and shouldn't be taken into consideration, that it was the cause why price of that particular coin was soaring Hard fork has a two purpose to give birth of a new coin or just only for improvement from the previous one in other words upgraded!
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Many people think that hardfork is definitely a new coin and they can make money from it. These people often do not understand the situation and start buying coins and so the price goes up. But not always so. Hardfork is often just some updates that help the coin be more secure, increase the number of transactions and so on. I think hardfork is good for a coin because it shows that the coin team is working and not leaving the coin
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lots of people say, that coins are hard because the memory has crashed, and the way to raise the price is by doing hardfork,
but does it really need to be done?
if I see hardfork sometimes it must be needed if indeed the coin has many disadvantages,
and with hardfork, hopefully the coins can get better.
what do you think?
Thats correct, hard forks have more disadvantages than you can talk about the advantages. Looking at the previous hard forks that has happened we could see that one party suffers more of the loss. Many hard forks happen because of some persons selfish purpose
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I also agree. Hard Fork is not to raise prices, but it is different if the ones who do hard fork are weak or non-desirable coins. So with the hard fork, coin prices will rise. Example Ignis.
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but it is different if the ones who do hard fork are weak or non-desirable coins. So with the hard fork, coin prices will rise. Example Ignis.
You are right. Hardfork can be used as a trigger to raise the price of coins that are unclear or not desirable. I followed the news and bought Ignis at the time. but I immediately sold it. Many say rude because they buy at high prices and prices have never gone up until now.
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Yes in the early days we can say that hardfork can boost a certain coin when it happens as they are making some network upgrades in it. But right now, it is impossible to boost coin prices with hardfork not unless it was a major network upgrade like ethereum switching to POS is a big deal.
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Hardfork is used if it will create coins that are better than before. That is the reason why many coins do so because of the high demand and competition conditions that require coins to be developed. Back to how interested people do price valuations when Hardfork occurs. Hardfork does not have to always aim to raise the price of coins. That is market manipulation.