Will we ever see (if ever see) the complete independence of the altcoins? Whatever the project, whatever the super-technology, no matter how cool the developers and the huge community are, if Bitcoin goes to the bottom, then the altcoins obediently follow the grandfather, and vice versa. How long? What should happen such that the altos finally feel their intrinsic value, and in general is it possible in principle or will everything always follow the Bitcoin? Market immaturity? Your opinions?

Money - evil. But Crypto Evil better than fiat system DEVIL!
But these are jokes... Money - power of our lifes. They change our lifes sometimes in better side, sometimes bad...

If you want not to be scammed - you want: check at ico rating, answer some questions about project in Telegram Projects Chat, in scam project admins usually dont know about distribution bounty and airdrop, they didnt know about what cryptoexchange they want to be list in first etc. 

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