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Bitcoin Forum / Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
« on: April 01, 2024, 04:01:48 AM »
So you are saying there is a Smart DCA indicator, or we have to use it with some indicator, like what? Do you have any in mind, for example, I would use 4 EMA lines to make support and resistances, and if want to do DCA then I could use those lines (Resistances and support made by 4EMA) as buying and selling points. I can even extend the date, from 1 day to 1 Week if the selected coins is not new.

Although I won't say its the most reliable Indicator to do Smart DCA, BTW you are saying we don't use any kind of indicator with traditional (so called by you) DCA. As, I TBH used the indicators I mostly use to do DCA as well but not so much as most of my DCA is in BTC and I don't do DCA in BTC using any indicators but in alts I do.
You can use whatever indicator you want if you intend to do customized DCA. You can call it as whatever you want, Smart DCA, Customized DCA, Personalized DCA but the bottom line, it is no longer a Traditional (Classic) DCA.

You need to add some inputs to time the market, and your waiting time between two entries will be not at a fixed regular basis. You can invest after 1 month, 3 months or 6 months, because basically with Smart/ Customized/ Personalized DCA, you are timing the market and find best entries with some indicators that are best in your view.

I also didn't say Smart DCA is better than Traditional DCA.

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Satoshi Nakamoto was last seen active on the forum December 13, 2010
Satoshi Nakamoto never used Altcoinstalks and he disappeared years before Altcoinstalks forum was created.

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In my opinion, it will be very dangerous when Satoshi Nakamoto's identity is known. There is a possibility that if Satoshi Nakamoto's identity was known then the price would not be as expensive as it is now.
I agree and disagree.

I agree that if Satoshi Nakamoto identity is known, still alive, the market will have some price shocks with fud and fear that Satoshi Nakamoto will dump his bitcoins on the market and drag the price down.

I disagree that price shock won't last long, and price will recover after all. Because even Satoshi Nakamoto (if alive), can not shut down Bitcoin network, can not roll back the blockchain. His existence can not help government to shut down Bitcoin blockchain and its network.

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Bitcoin Forum / Re: Lost, Forgotten Bitcoin. How many are there?
« on: March 28, 2024, 12:17:01 PM »
yeah , up to now I can check the wallet and the bitcoin still sits there and that is frustrating knowing that it is use to be my bitcoin and seeing the value of bitcoin now? damn that should be a big amount for me now comparing to how much it is when i lose it, while the value of bitcoin continues to increase day by day.
For what you lost, consider it already gone forever.

Don't try to complicate your life with your calculation that how much does your past loss is at today price?

If you think your past loss this way, you will feel painful, more painful with time and it is not helpful at all.

If you spent your bitcoins, in another example, to buy luxury things like iPhone, years ago, don't consider it as your loss. You bought a luxury item, enjoyed it and now consider it as your loss, no life is not like this.

Cost of An iPhone in Bitcoin & Ether, Over The Years


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Bitcoin Forum / Re: Bitcoin bull market correction drawdowns
« on: March 28, 2024, 12:04:10 PM »
Yeah most futures traders will benefit more on these up and down trends.
Futures Trading is risky and I am very doubtful that if a trader lives to trade Futures, he will end up with Positive Net Profit. Probability to end up with Massive Loss is more realistic.

There are many ways to find out the right position to enter cryptocurrency, but the need for better analysis is really needed, therefore if you are more comfortable using the DCA method then continue to consistently use that method because so far the movements using this method have had quite accurate results. .
DCA is to avoid finding right positions to enter the market because the bottom line is, You can not find it accurately in price and time.

By finding right positions, you will be affected by emotion, psychology and if you miss a right position, you will start to make bad decisions.

DCA is a powerful strategy to help you avoid (1) Timing the market (2) Finding right positions (3) Eliminate effects from emotion and psychology.

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Bitcoin Forum / Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
« on: March 28, 2024, 11:55:00 AM »
It is not the same thing because I never touched the dollars, so by definition it cant be called dollar cost averaging  ;D
I can also spend coins when I need to do it and I dont have to worry about spending the same amount of money to buy bitcoin.
I disagree.

Assume you receive $100 /week from your signature campaign payment. You will have two ways to DCA, buying Bitcoin with cash or stablecoin. Another way is receiving it directly with your signature campaign payment. The second way, you disagree with me but what will happen if you receive your signature campaign payment in $ or in altcoins. You will have convert it to Bitcoin and it is DCA, just different in middle steps.

In my eyes, the DCA strategy combined with DIP accumulation is the best way for sure profits.
Nothing surely brings profit too you. You will get profit or loss, with same entry for DCA, if your time to stay in the market is longer or shorter, that leads to different exit time and price.

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But with DCA+DIP accumulation we keep that fixed amount of a week or month at a side and wait for the DIP to take place and when we see the DIP then we utilize that amount for DCAying.
This is one of Smart DCA's disadvantages. It's challenging to keep your money for weeks, months intact and don't use it for other things than investment in Bitcoin.

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but it's unfortunate I didn't notice that the minimum deposit of the exchange is 0.0005BTC. So, I didn't receive last week pay, which means the scam CEX got it instead.
That exchange did not scam you if they wrote it in their website like their exchange fee (withdrawal, deposit ...) or at the Deposit page in your account.

If they have it, they did not scam you and you were irresponsible with your money by did not read it. Afaik, exchanges have min deposit for each cryptocurrency.

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Bitcoin Forum / Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
« on: March 27, 2024, 03:14:01 AM »
Can I propose something better?
I think SCDA is smartest way of getting bitcoin, this is Signature Campaign Dollar Averaging so I am choosing this ;D
This is weekly receiving bitcoin and I am not spending any dollars, but I am investing my time in forum.
This is Traditional DCA. You accumulate bitcoins on regular basis, with assumption that your job with signature campaign is stable and you don't have too long break time for signature campaign participation and salary. What you are saying is not different than Traditional DCA, and you just describe exactly what your investment capital comes from, through signature campaign payments.

It is not kind of Smart DCA.

Learning too many market analysis techniques will actually make us even more confused because as far as I know cryptocurrency price movements are not easy to predict, sometimes what has been predicted is at that price but when there is bad news everything just collapses and doesn't match the price. analysis results.
This is why intelligent investors choose DCA. They are smart because with DCA, they will be able to enjoy their life. They invest to live, not live to invest and if they can find a good investment strategy that does not make them headache, it's good. Traditional DCA strategy can help them to achieve both, wealth and healthier, happier life.

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Bitcoin Forum / Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
« on: March 24, 2024, 04:00:22 AM »
I was aware of the smart DCA method before but did not come up with some term to call it, so it's a small DCA. Well, both have their own use cases in separate situations and in my view, there are no restrictions in using one strategy in place of another. For example, we can do smart DCA even in the bearish run and can do DCA in a bull run. I don't think there are any restrictions on it.
If people want to do DCA smartly but only base on their thinking and don't have any reliable indicator to use, they might have bad practice than Traditional DCA.

It's the point and use case of this Smart DCA indicator. Perhaps this indicator is useful for people who want to do Smart DCA for their investment. The bottom line is whether this Smart DCA indicator is reliable enough.

I still prefer using the traditional way of DCAing my Bitcoins because it doesn't need for me to learn technical analysis and any other complicated techniques that will keep my eye on the screen for hours. This is what caused stress to me a few years back so I will stick to the traditional one from now onwards.
If you consider this Smart DCA indicator is reliable, you can use it without much own work for technical analysis. Because the author already did the hard work for you and the indicator is public to use.

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Bitcoin Forum / Re: Bitcoin Spot ETF Tracker
« on: March 24, 2024, 03:47:42 AM »
Last week, Grayscale has massive outflow and both BlackRock, Fidelity ETFs could not cover it with their inflows. The recent outflow from Grayscale probably comes from Genesis but if their outflow rate continues, they will have nothing left next 90 days.

Sooner or later, selling pressure from Grayscale redemptions will stop and other new Bitcoin Spot ETFs with majority of purchases from BlackRock and Fidelity will bring Bitcoin on a positive direction.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/ArkhamIntel/status/1771567638587814221
At the current rate of redemptions, GBTC runs out of Bitcoin to sell in 96 DAYS.

Since GBTC started trading as an ETF on 11th January, Grayscale has transferred 266.47K BTC out of their wallets for GBTC redemptions.

That’s a rate of 25.9K BTC per week.


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Bitcoin Forum / Re: Bitcoin bull market correction drawdowns
« on: March 23, 2024, 01:53:48 PM »
The graphic chart you have created here can be very helpful for beginners if they understand this chart well.
You can access it directly on CryptoQuant, but you must create a free account, then visit the following link to access that chart.


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If newbies do not understand this chart well, they may not find it very helpful.
The chart has good summary and basic information which is not difficult for newbies to get its meaning.

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Bitcoin Forum / Re: DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
« on: March 23, 2024, 01:42:42 PM »
During the bear market, if the market has been in the downtrend for a long time and the price of bitcoin has fallen significantly. I can go for DCA. And I will be expecting more fall or price increases but I will continue to DCA.
DCA works for both markets as it is for long term accumulation and investment. It does not consider the market is bearish or bullish, just buying regularly on your investment schedule with similar capital value for each DCA time.


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If the market is increasing and and the market is in bullrun, I can go for smart DCA. Because no matter how significant the bullrun is, there are times that would be an abrupt price fall which will give opportunity to buy.

I will prefer the S-DCA , both strategies that can be used to invest in cryptocurrency over time . With the S-DCA , you are going to use algorithm and technical indicators for you to determine the optimal time to invest. In all S-DCA seen as more sophisticated approach that helps you minimize the risk involved and maximize returns. It's very important to know both strategies come with risks and there no guarantee for profits.
Smart DCA is an indicator to help investors to outsmart the market. They want to wait for indicator to buy in, but does it worth?

I don't know but I see it depends on each person and their own characteristics and available capital for investment. If they have enough patience to wait for green light from Smart DCA indicator, and they have available capital for investment, Smart DCA can work well for them, especially in bull market with some big dips along the way to its peak.

If the person is impatient, this strategy does not work well.

Smart DCA also requires an investor to be very disciplined, first for waiting patiently for the Smart DCA signal, second for saving money and wait for chances to Smart DCA purchase.

I think that the DCA method is good for those who want to invest in Bitcoin without thinking too much about the price, and there is no doubt that it pays off in the long run.
With classic DCA, no headache. An investor only needs to do research about Bitcoin, understand about its technology, has belief in Bitcoin, and do DCA.

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However, for those who understand the cycles and cryptocurrency markets a little better and also have a larger amount of money, it is definitely better to buy larger amounts of BTC when we are in a bear market and the price is at least 50% lower than the last ATH - and for those who are braver, it is worth waiting for the price which is at least 70% lower.
With Smart DCA, it requires more as aforementioned and you are right that knowledge about Bitcoin past cycles is another factor that is helpful to apply this strategy.

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Any people can get this information at

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I don't know for what period, but BTC has confidently overtaken Meta.
Bitcoin is still in its discovery phase in this cycle and we all know that after a bull market, there will be a bear market when Bitcoin price will drop a lot like -70% to -80% from its all time high. We don't know what will be Bitcoin ATH in this cycle, but let's see and the time when Bitcoin definitely stays above Meta, Silver is still long in future.

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+ I understand that already today BTC has confidently overtaken silver. It is likely to take the honorable 8th place. But, it's worth waiting for the official news. Which I don't see yet. As soon as that happens, I will undoubtedly report it here.  ???
We don't need any news, just watch the table but as aforementioned, Bitcoin will need some more years to actually surpass Silver on the ranking table and won't lose it to silver again.

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Bitcoin Forum / DCA vs Smart DCA, what do you choose?
« on: March 22, 2024, 08:35:40 AM »
I believe many of us are familiar with Dollar Cost Averaging, DCA but how about Smart DCA.

This thread is for discussion, and I am not concluding Smart DCA is actually Smart and better than DCA.  :D


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I wanted to remind you about the concept of Smart DCA, purchasing BTC during corrections, when the price drops below the 1W-1M Realized Price.

This strategy works well during a bull rally and is much more effective than classic DCA.


A quick glance gives me that is a good strategy but if I look deeper, it is not actually smart.

By using Smart DCA, simply glance at it, we see entries are below 1W-1M Realized Price but we will miss days, weeks before price drops behind the Realize price (blue line) and miss chances to buy when price is even lower than the Green areas that are entries given by Smart DCA indicator.

Share your thinking about this strategy please.

Personally I see a traditional DCA strategy is better.


Note:
  • It was posted first in that topic, on Bitcointalk
  • I leave the source link to avoid plagiarism accusation.
  • I excluded/ included minor things from an original thread if necessary.

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Bitcoin Forum / Re: Halving likelihood to be in red?
« on: March 21, 2024, 11:44:37 AM »
Halving is around but there are still many days (30 days) till the halving. [1]

I see difference that this month is still in Green. Since the start day of March till today, Bitcoin price is up 9%. [2]
 
Who expect Bitcoin price will rise x2 quickly after the halving is too naive and if they sell their house, then leverage it on Margin trading, they deserve to be liquidated. If they are long term investor, they will be clam and see effects from halving will come some months after that. Because it takes time for people to realize the halve of new supply and who want to sell will sell their bitcoins, who have diamond hands will hold their bitcoins.

The end game is like Michael Saylor said, "Who have most bitcoins will win". As retail investors, if we can hold our bitcoins months after the halving, we are winners.

[1] https://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/
[2] https://cryptorank.io/price/bitcoin

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Bitcoin Forum / Re: Bitcoin Spot ETF Tracker
« on: March 21, 2024, 11:31:02 AM »
Bitcoin Spot ETFs just have a worst day in their money flow so far with a largest outflow day that is a third consecutive red day too.


The author of charts wrote his opinion on this.
Quote from: https://twitter.com/biancoresearch/status/1770439756028973560
The average purchase price (cost) for the $11.57 billion net flows since January 11 is $57.5K for all ten spot BTC ETFs, and $55.1K if GBTC is excluded.

So, another 10% to 13% correction will result in the unrealized profits being at zero.

If BTC does trade to this level, we'll get a big clue about the type of buyer (strong or weak-handed). Yesterday's record outflow from these ETFs indicates, I believe, that they lean more toward the "weak-hands" variety.

From the chart, we can see a big open space under $60,000 and if Bitcoin loses that support, it will potentially drops to about $51,000 to $53,000, the price channel from which it broke out weeks ago.

Will support from Bitcoin Spot ETFs be able to help Bitcoin holds its price above $55,000 to $57,000 in coming weeks?


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The author of "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" tweeted many times that he considered silver is one of best investment assets since Pandemic Covid-19.

About gold, you can read this report.
Gold Prices Record Their Strongest October Surge In Nearly Half A Century.


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