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Cryptocurrency discussions / Re: When will cryptocurrency be stable?
« on: December 02, 2019, 12:58:04 PM »
cryptocurrency will never be stable.
So Tether is not a cryptocurrency?
 :)

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China Planning to Become First Country to Launch Digital Currency


Keyu Jin is a professor at the London School of Economics. She said, “There’s a consensus around the world among central bank governors and governments at large that they want to have control of money and money supply.”

Chinese officials have not hidden their disapproval of Facebook’s Libra. They have called it a threat to the sovereignty of China and other developing economies. China claims that digital currencies should only be provided by governments or central banks.

Mu Changchun is the head of the Chinese central bank’s digital currency research center. He has suggested that the new currency should be made available through commercial banks, just as physical money is.

The digital currency will follow models similar to systems such as Apple Pay and the Chinese payment system Alipay. These require a commercial bank to put money into a digital wallet that can be downloaded onto a smartphone.

Unlike physical money, however, a tracking system could follow the digital currency’s movements from one person to another.

Mu said the digital currency would strike a balance between anonymous payments and “classified supervision.” He said the goal is to prevent illegal financial activities, with officials able to watch for such activity by studying huge amounts of information.

So far, there has been limited public reaction in China, a country already used to weak privacy protections and government control. But people on social media sites such as Weibo have expressed a mix of feelings. Some say a digital currency could prevent corruption. But others are concerned. One user asked: “What will happen to my freedom to build wealth, my secrets and safety?”

Huang Qigan is a vice chairman of the China Center for International Economic Exchange research group. He said the People’s Bank of China has been studying digital currency for five or six years. He believes it is ready to be put into use.
“China will likely be the first country in the world to issue sovereign digital currency,” he said.


https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/china-planning-to-become-first-country-to-launch-digital-currency/5153511.html

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Stable Coins Forum / Re: Zuckerberg is full of confident
« on: December 01, 2019, 11:37:02 PM »
Yes, in theory, the US authorities cannot stop the launching of Libra coin but I see that Zuckerberg is likely not really confident without support from US. I think it is not only about the potential market, but also how the power of US intervenes in a promising big crypto platform in the future.
I think you are right.
A project on a global scale needs general support (politics, mass media etc.) from US. It's not only the potential market.
True. +1  :)

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Cryptocurrency discussions / Re: Reason I still survive in cryptocurrency
« on: November 29, 2019, 12:12:14 PM »
The fact is that you can trust banks and if any problem happens, you can immediately go to the bank and solve it, and investing in cryptocurrency always leads to huge risks and if something happens, then no one will help you.
True. The banking system offers this benefit.
That's why I don't say to eliminate banks altogether.

What I don't like about banking is

1) they use my money (giving me 0, ..% interest rates  >:( ), lending it out and feasting on it.

2) banks create currency out of thin air, through keys stroking, (it's called money multiplier), they lend it to you because you need it, but if you don't give it them back they will take your possessions from you.

3) the money you deposit in the bank becomes their money. It's no longer yours.

But that's just me  :)

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Bob's example

Bob wants to leave his job and become a crypto trader.

I think it is not a wise decision by leaving the real-life job for being a crypto trader. No need to leave the real-life job, we can trade crypto on spare time. As we know that crypto business is full of risks and uncertainty, so no guarantee there. So, I won't leave my job or put it aside.
You are absolutely right, at least as long as one has not achieved financial independence.

We read here and there about those having become rich through cryptos, but we don't hear about those (probably much more numerous) who went broke.



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I switched from buying and holding for some time and selling when I see fit. I don't know if that can be considered as a strategy.
For the purpose of this thread, it can   :)

I wasn't interested in sophisticated trading behaviour.
Just in behaviour.

I realised what a low level investor I am when I saw that after having bought something, even for the long run, I checked every 5 minutes how it went.  :D
Constantly wondering, should I exit or stay in?
Fear of having made a mistake on one side,
greed thinking about how much I could gain on the other side.

Needless to say, I jumped in and out constantly like the classic amateur.
Tons of transactions fees... If the broker had been honest, they had sent me at least a teddy bear for Christmast.

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Stable Coins Forum / Re: How about gold-backed Stablecoins?
« on: November 29, 2019, 11:40:10 AM »
If this currency is gold-backed what's the difference between it and a fiat currency? :-\
@Whiskey  :)
fiat currencies are produces in this way: push a button, and there you have currency (Yen, Yuan, Dollars, Euros etc.).
You can create as much currency as you want to.
Very easy.

Not so with gold-backed currencies.
In order to produce gold-backed currency, you need gold.
Physical gold.
Gold bars.

The quantity of gold at your disposal decides on how much currency you can produce.
The quantity of gold limits the quantity of currency that you can create.

If 1 currency unit = 1 gram of gold, and you have 1 kg of gold, you can create only 1.000 currency units of gold-backed currency.
You can't create as much currency as you want to.

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Cryptocurrency discussions / Re: Do we really need stable coins?
« on: November 29, 2019, 11:28:49 AM »
Gold has been proving for 5000 years now to be the most stable currency in the world.
Gold never go bankrupt
 :)
Gold is not a currency for calculation, moreover, it is not suitable for payment on the Internet, therefore stable cryptocurrencies are created for this, which are convenient for using as payment for goods on the Internet and for trading on crypto exchanges. Stable coins are created supported by gold, dollar, euro and other currencies, this is a convenient solution for use on the Internet.
You are right, as far as you are talking about pieces of metal.
You are not right, if you are talking about gold-backed cryptocurrencies  :)

Through gold-backed cryptocurrencies, gold becomes suitable both for payments on the Internet and for trading on crypto exchanges.

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Stable Coins Forum / Re: Libra's China Version?
« on: November 29, 2019, 11:13:31 AM »
I would trust the Chinese CBDC much more than the Libra coin from Facebook.
This is interesting.
Even more so, because we are talking about China, communist, totalitarian etc.
(Frankly, if you'd ask me, between the Chinese Gov and Libra Corporations I would lean towards the first too.)

So, Govs or corporations?
Cryptocurrencies are considered as the nemesis of fiat currencies, i.e. "state currencies".
But how if such cryptocurrencies are "corporations currencies"?
Who would you trust more?

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Bitcoin Forum / Re: Bitcoin will survive ??
« on: November 29, 2019, 11:01:59 AM »
Do you think it will ever replace fiat currencies then?

I think it eventually will. Silver replaced gold, then IOU backed gold pieces of paper replaced silver, then the value of the state's IOUs replaced gold, why not bitcoin replace IOU's that aren't backed by anything?
Because those IOU's are legal tender and every economic system needs a legal tender.
It's not true that they aren't backed by anything. They are backed by the law.

The role of cryptocurrencies is not to replace the legal tenders, it's to add further options to them.
In order for Bitcoin to replace the legal tenders, you need a law - a constitutional law - declaring Bitcoin legal tender.
I don't think that's going to happen.

(Frankly, I even don't want that to happen. I want each country having its national currency, as part of their national identity.)

Besides, no business is going to accept as payment currencies that a month later could lose 30% of its value.
That would make every financial planning impossible. So, that business should convert their Bitcoins into another, more stable currency.
Before talking about Bitcoin as a potential currency you have to explain how to solve the volatility problem.

776
I might have been really outdated as I only focused on Bitcoin.

Is stable coin something to keep the balance between crypto and fiat? Can someone explain in layman's term, this is kinda new to me.
If you know Bitcoin, you should know the problems connected with Bitcoin's volatility, and in general with the volatility of cryptocurrencies: how it hinders Bitcoin and cryptos to be used in everyday life by normal people and businesses as a means of payment.

Stablecoins aim to be the answer to that problem.


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Cryptocurrency discussions / Re: Do we really need stable coins?
« on: November 23, 2019, 09:56:17 AM »
It could be so, but how can we be sure, that all those "stable coins" would stay stable? That they would not say oneday, that they are bankrupts and that's the end? Everyone can say, that his token is a stablecoin, but most can not work stable forever. ???
Gold has been proving for 5000 years now to be the most stable currency in the world.
Gold never goes bankrupt
 :)

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Stable Coins Forum / Re: Kinesis Stablecoins
« on: November 23, 2019, 09:47:41 AM »
Next Monday 25.Nov.2019, 05:00 PM London time, Kinesis Advisor Shane Morand is going to host the first of a series of weekly webinars.

Each week Shane will be taking his audience through the latest updates to The First 500, Kinesis current referral contest with a prize pool of $645,000, along with featuring a special guest.

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Cryptocurrency discussions / Re: Reason I still survive in cryptocurrency
« on: November 15, 2019, 01:26:06 PM »
I saw cryptocurrency in response to my dissatisfaction with the system used by the bank.
You are not alone on that

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A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution.
This is the FIRST sentence of Nakamoto's Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System
Freeing people from financial institutions is the main reason of cryptocurrencies.


Nakamoto didn't talk only about banks. He talked about financial institutions in general, those who have the power to control your money, and with that your life.
Like Paypal for example.

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Bitcoin is being championed as the solution to a new payment crisis affecting the adult entertainment website Pornhub. In a blog post on Nov. 14, Pornhub revealed that payment processor PayPal had abruptly stopped servicing its models.

Previously, models throughout the world received payouts via PayPal, which has not publicly stated why it cut them out of its platform.
“We are all devastated by PayPal's decision to stop payouts to over a hundred thousand performers who rely on them for their livelihoods,” the blog post reads.

The debacle is just the latest in a string of skittish moves from PayPal, which has become well known for its seemingly arbitrary account shutdowns.

In each case, Bitcoin proponents highlight the benefit of using censorship-resistant cryptocurrency instead. Bitcoin transactions cannot be canceled or denied by a third party since they are peer-to-peer.

Long live cryptos.
Long live PH performers.

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Talking about the main point of cryptocurrencies: Anonymity or circumventing the banks?

On the occasion of Bitcoin's 11th Birthday, I saw today - first time for me - Nakamoto's Paper.
Look at the Abstract

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A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution. Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending. We propose a solution to the double-spending problem using a peer-to-peer network. The network timestamps transactions by hashing them into an ongoing chain of hash-based proof-of-work, forming a record that cannot be changed without redoing the proof-of-work. The longest chain not only serves as proof of the sequence of events witnessed, but proof that it came from the largest pool of CPU power. As long as a majority of CPU power is controlled by nodes that are not cooperating to attack the network, they'll generate the longest chain and outpace attackers. The network itself requires minimal structure. Messages are broadcast on a best effort basis, and nodes can leave and rejoin the network at will, accepting the longest proof-of-work chain as proof of what happened while they were gone.

While in the whole abstract there is no mention of privacy, the possibility of avoiding banks (financial institutions) is mentioned in the very first sentence.
For me it's clear that Bitcoin's main point wasn't privacy but offering us a way of freeing people from the banking system.

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