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Trading (Not crypto) / Re: What is commodity trading?
« on: August 22, 2019, 01:49:08 AM »
Commodity trading is an alternative to trading stocks, bonds, and cryptocurrencies. There are different types of commodity trading which are hard, energy, livestock, and agriculture or soft commodity. The hard commodity trading involves trading in precious metals that are mined or extracted like gold, silver, copper, platinum, and energy commodities like oil and natural gas. Commodities such as wheat, sugar, corn, and cocoa are known as soft commodities or agriculture. Unlike hard commodities, they are products that are grown, rather than extracted or mined.

What do you think of commodity trading?
What do you think about commodity-backed cryptocurrencies?

Trading cryptos that represent commodities is considered commodity trading?

812
Trading (Not crypto) / Re: Invesment in gold
« on: August 22, 2019, 01:45:50 AM »
Actually gold price never increase, but fiat always inflation.
Exactly.
The value of an investment is not how many US dollars, Euros, Yen etc. that investment is worth.
The value of an investment is how much bread and milk you can buy with it.

Gold's value is the quantity of goods or services you can buy with a certain quantity of gold, for example an ounce.
That is gold's buying power.

Gold's value, it's buying power remains the same.
As fiat currencies depreciate, their buying power decreases, therefore the gold's price, which is the exchange rate between gold and fiat currencies, increases.

813
Libra is not backed by commodities, so it is not a commodity.

It has nothing to do with Futures, as there are no Futures contracts concerning Libra.

So, I don't understand what the U.S. Commodity and Futures Trading Commission has to do with Libra  ???

814
Stable Coins Forum / Re: How about gold-backed Stablecoins?
« on: August 22, 2019, 12:45:32 AM »
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I do not see any change in the negative attitude of high-ranking officials of Russia in relation to cryptocurrency. Nabiullina was asked about her attitude to the creation of a cryptocurrency, which would be provided with gold. Therefore, she replied that it would be considered. However, judging by that. that she immediately added that she considered it necessary to pay more attention to the national currency, the result of such consideration is obvious. Nobody is going to create such cryptocurrency.
You are talking about the attitude of Russian authorities in relation to cryptocurrencies as used within Russia's domestic economy.
The gold-backed crypto mentioned in the article is not meant for Russia's domestic economy.

You must distinguish between international markets and national market.
The plan is to create a gold-backed crypto to settle balances in the international trade.
This would foster international trade, as the daily changes of the exchange rates between the national currencies of the Eurasian Economic Union hamper it.
The current solution to this problem is to keep using the US dollar, but the whole world is detaching itself from the US dollar.

The plan Nabiullina is talking about doesn't relate to the question about using cryptos within Russia's domestic market.
This planned gold-backed crypto has nothing to do with the current attitude/legislation of Russian authorities about cryptocurrencies within Russia.
In order to implement this gold-backed crypto, they don't need to change their attitude/legislation about using crypto within Russia.

816
It is funny now that what crypto is fighting in the early days has now become the "savior" of crypto for mass adoption.

This is quite complicated but I agree to this statement
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“I get why the FATF wants to do this. But applying bank regulations to this industry could drive more people to conduct person-to-person transactions, which would result in less transparency for law enforcement.”

The increasing regulations may actually help cryptocurrencies become what it was intended to be (peer-to-peer). No fiat or centralized exchanges involved. Just two people using crypto as their medium of exchange.

FATF = financial action task force on money laundering
Thanks Zion, a new thing learnt today  :)

Cryptocurrencies were intended to be just that, currencies.
Actually I think they were intended to be money altogether, which involves being not only medium of exchange but also store of value.
But this is another story, so let's leave it aside for the moment.

In order to be a currency, means of payment, a crypto must be adopted by both seller and buyer.
That's the problem.
Currently the case where both seller and buyer adopt cryptos as means of payment, is very rare.

Actually, in order to complete a transaction, seller and buyer need not only to both adopt cryptos, in general, but they need to adopt the same crypto.
If it has to be a peer-to-peer transaction (P2P), they cannot convert one crypto into another, as a P2P transaction is by definition a transaction without Exchanges involved.

The case of both a buyer and a seller accepting the same cryptocurrency as means of payment is extremely rare.
We can hope that it will change in future, but currently it is like that.
That's why currently fiat and Exchanges are needed.
That's why P2P transactions today involve only traders, not buyers and sellers of goods/services.

In other words, currently P2P means cryptocurrencies not being able to be currencies, except for very, very rare exceptions.
(I know about the internet lists of businesses accepting cryptos, but still, in my city, just to make an example, I guess 0,000...1% of buy/sell transactions could take place through P2P cryptocurrencies transactions, given the requirement mentioned above).

I like P2P.
I like anonymity.
But more than that, I dislike banks and fiat currencies, and I think blockchain currencies were born in the first place to do that: circumventing banks and offering an alternative to depreciating fiat currencies.
It's not a coincidence that cryptos are most popular in countries with high inflation.
It's not a coincidence that all major banks are creating their own Stablecoins.

So, I'm not sure about the idea that regulations run against the "cryptospirit", so to speak.
It is possible - I'm not sure - that the original cryptospirit was to eliminate banks and depreciating currencies, with P2P and Anonymity being means to that, and that later this idea got corrupted, elevating Anonymity to a goal per se even at cost of cryptos not being able to become a viable alternative to fiat.

I think that - as much as I don't like them - today regulations are necessary to allow cryptocurrencies to become what they were supposed to be, i.e. currencies.
I don't exclude the possibility that tomorrow a particular crypto becomes so widespread that it allows to avoid fiat altogether.
In that case, widespread P2P could become possible, and with that more anonymity than in case of traditional bank transactions.

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Indonesia is going to experience a monetary revolution, which in my view will enhance its economy and the life of its people.
The Gov is setting the stage for gold and silver to be used again as money.
This will be a world premiere, and Indonesia will be a model for other countries in South-Asia.
This was only make possible by blockchain, and by the possibilities offered by precious metals backed cryptocurrencies.

At a recent UN Summit, T. Coughlin, Kinesis CEO, spoke about "Indonesia, where more than three-quarters of the population is unbanked or underbanked but 90 percent have smartphones.
In Indonesia, there are people driving 500 kilometers to pay electricity bills with physical cash," he said.
"We want to change that to, in a space of 30 seconds, paying that bill with their phones, or migrants sending [remittances] home for a fraction of the percent instead of being charged by Western Union."
https://www.pcmag.com/news/368788/why-blockchain-and-crypto-are-picking-up-steam-in-tiny-count

For more information, see the press release
https://kinesis.money/en/company-news/kinesis-to-launch-revolutionary-new-bullion-backed-monetary-system-in-indonesia/

818
Bitcoin Forum / Re: Why is bitcoin stability important?
« on: August 16, 2019, 12:41:37 PM »
The stability of bitcoin is important because that will create usability and we will see massive adaptation by the mainstream society. Many people are scared to venture into cryptocurrency because it is highly volatile
You are right, stability create usability and mass adoption, but essentially not because this way it will attract more investors.
For sure, stability attracts more investors, but this isn't the main point.
The main point is that stability allows cryptocurrencies to become money.

"A “stable coin” is a cryptocurrency that is pegged to another stable asset, like gold or the U.S. dollar. It’s a currency that is global, but is not tied to a central bank and has low volatility. This allows for practical usage of using cryptocurrency like paying for things every single day.
Coins like Bitcoin and Ethereum and highly volatile. On any given day, it is common to see an increase to 10-20% or even a decrease. That makes using most cryptocurrencies for daily transactions inconvenient. Imagine paying $5 for your flat white (my coffee of choice) today and finding out tomorrow that it should have been $4. Price changes like that are shocking for a consumer."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/shermanlee/2018/03/12/explaining-stable-coins-the-holy-grail-of-crytpocurrency/#222c9e704fc6

I don't see Bitcoin as able to become so stable that it can get used as everyday's money.

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Bitcoin Forum / Re: Will Bitcoin Replace Gold as Store of Value?
« on: August 15, 2019, 09:23:29 PM »
3 Reasons Bitcoin Is Turning Into A Global Safe-Haven For Investors

1) Every fiat currency is devaluing itself on purpose

2) Bitcoin increasingly non-correlated with traditional markets

3) Bitcoin can provide asymmetric returns

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-08/3-reasons-bitcoin-turning-global-safe-haven-investors

Actually these reasons are valid for gold too.
That shows the similarity between gold and Btc as safe heaven investments

820
I like Revolut.
A friend of mine used it once for an international transaction: a better currency exchange rate, less fees, and a quicker process than his local bank used to apply.

821
Referral Links / Re: Join Kinesis' Affiliate Program
« on: August 15, 2019, 08:03:22 PM »
If you are interested in the Kinesis Monetary System, I have found a website with some information.
It seems they are new, as they are filling the website on a daily basis.
It is still not completely updated though

www.kinesisgoldstablecoins.com


822
@masterrex,
if I understand you right, you are saying:
Anonymity in exchanging cryptos for cryptos,
no-anonymity in exchanging cryptos and fiat.

I think that would run against AMLC too, as it allows criminals to use cryptos to move value anonymously: A (criminal) sends anonymously cryptos to B, B converts cryptos into fiat.
Authorities couldn't know where B's cryptos come from.
B could say, he doesn't know either.

Problems would also arise when cryptos get accepted from the vendor as means of payment, i.e. when fiat is left completely aside from the economic transaction: I go on holiday, I book a room in the hotel, I pay with Bitcoins.
No invoice from the hotel owner, no value added tax.

The hotel owner does the same: goes on holiday, pays with Bitcoins.
Let's suppose, at that time he got 10 Btc from me, and now he pays 10 Btc for holiday.
Ultimately his Btc account is zero, so he pays zero taxes, even if he had an income (from me).

823
General Discussion / Re: What superpower would you most like to have?
« on: August 11, 2019, 02:10:21 PM »
My first thought was invisibility so people can leave me alone when I need to, but after reading answers I would also like to be able to time travel. To the past to make amends and do something about regrets, and to the future to make better decisions.
Traveling to the past?
Very dangerous. By minimal actions you can change the course of history, or just to ruin the existence of individuals.
You ask a girl what time is it, while she answer she doesn't see the jung guy.
Without you she had saw him, talk to him, become his wife, childrens etc.
Because of you that family will never exist.

You can't forsee all the consequences of each action of yours.
Without willing of even knowing it, you can really mess things up.

Back to the Future?
Marty and the Doc?
 :)

824
Referral Links / Re: Join Kinesis' Affiliate Program
« on: August 07, 2019, 08:47:46 PM »
Kinesis on BlockTV.com

https://blocktv.com/watch/2019-08-06/5d495206e7692-the-evolution-of-the-gold-standard

20 min.
Interview with Jai Bifulco, Kinesis' Chief Marketing Officer

Kinesis is going to be launched on the 30th August

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Anonymity is widely considered one of the features characterising cryptocurrencies.
It had to be one of the reasons boosting cryptos' adoption, as a benefit compared to traditional bank-based transaction processes.
Some cryptos owe their success to the level of anonymity they offer.
On the other hand, Govs don't like anonymity, so that anonymity seems to have become an obstacle for wide, in particular institutional adoption of cryptocurrencies.

I just read the following article.
It seems that the future of cryptocurrencies will include two areas, a white and a black market.

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"The G-20 Summit in Japan brought 20 finance ministers and central bank governors to officially commit to implementing the guidelines of the Financial Action Task Force (FATF). The lack of regulation in the crypto markets can be fertile ground for money laundering, terrorist financing, tax evasion, etc. Therefore, it is not surprising why the FATF guidelines are calling for the end of anonymity in the crypto market.

In fact, after the G-20’s determination to comply with the FATF standards, we are soon going to see their implementation around the world, and crypto users will be required to put aside their privacy — and for some, even their ideology — in order to use services under the control of the regulator.

Pretty soon, what we are going to get is two separate groups of crypto addresses: clean crypto and black-market crypto.
To get into the clean group, you must declare your crypto addresses, account numbers, location information, beneficiary’s name, etc. If you choose not to disclose this information, you will be automatically assigned to the black-market group.   

The standards require crypto exchanges to perform extensive Know Your Client (KYC) and Anti-Money Laundering (AML) procedures. Each address will be identified and linked to a specific person, and there won't be any anonymous addresses coming in and out of the exchanges. This might be the end of the crypto world as we know it.

While many users will mourn the loss of their privacy, the bright side of these standards is the ability to integrate the crypto market into traditional financial markets, which can lead to a significant increase in usage and the ability to cash out crypto to fiat within the banking system. 

However, because of the anarchist nature of some hodlers, there will be some who choose to retain their privacy and to be a part of the black-market group.

As Jeff Horowitz, chief compliance officer at Coinbase, said: 
“I get why the FATF wants to do this. But applying bank regulations to this industry could drive more people to conduct person-to-person transactions, which would result in less transparency for law enforcement.”

Therefore, it is necessary to carefully consider which side to belong to — because once you go black, you can never go back. If you choose to have your addresses in the black market, it will be tough to "come clean" and use them without the risk of facing criminal charges."

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-08-04/fatf-regulations-end-crypto-anonymity


I don't share the author's view that participating to the black market will be considered against the law: In my view, the black market will be allowed, there will be black market exchanges etc.
Those avoiding the white market simply won't be able to connect their ewallet to their bank account.

So, will you choose the white or the black market (or both)?

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