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I quote a bit from the article I read, has anyone read it yet? I'll leave the link to the article below. RAMM technology sounds quite abstract, and I still can't imagine how trading works when applying RAMM. After reading RammDEX's whitepaper, I find that compared to AMM, RAMM is entirely different in terms of the Liquidity Pool. The Liquidity Pool aspect leaves me stuck in my thoughts. Is the best part of RAMM technology relying on results based on the Hash string, and is there anything that can fake or manipulate the Hash string?

''RAMM stands for Risk Automated Market Maker, which uses a liquidity pool containing a digital asset with 2 opposite outcome groups for risk exchange. It allows digital assets to be traded through smart contracts, using blockchain components as outcomes in the future. RammDex promises to become a trusted trading partner for the trading community, thanks to innovative trading methods and a commitment to the transparency of the blockchain. With the security of DEX, users can rest assured that their trades are safe and transparent.''
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From what I understand, it sounds like the trade can fail because it doesn't match the hash or whatever the variable is. Sounds more like a gamble instead of trading to me. Maybe I misunderstood it, but they need to explain it in better terms since no one is going to use them just from the PR article alone. What's the benefit of this new market-making technology? I don't see how useful it is to combat market manipulation if it means regular users just can't trade because they failed to guess the right price range. It would also make customers lose interest and move to other platforms quickly if they experience too many failed trades. CMIIW.

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Risk Automated Market Maker (RAMM) Technology raised two main problems: The risk of unsafe exchanges. 2. Market manipulation by whales. They did not succeed in explaining it. I searched on the site and on the Internet and did not find a clear explanation of how to solve the two problems. Returning to the definition, they will use the blockchain components as results in the future, and with 2 opposite outcome groups for risk exchange, I see that the project adds additional risks and, through the difference between the results of current and future risks, achieves a profit, but such ideas have ended badly in most DEX.

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From what I understand, it sounds like the trade can fail because it doesn't match the hash or whatever the variable is. Sounds more like a gamble instead of trading to me. Maybe I misunderstood it, but they need to explain it in better terms since no one is going to use them just from the PR article alone. What's the benefit of this new market-making technology? I don't see how useful it is to combat market manipulation if it means regular users just can't trade because they failed to guess the right price range. It would also make customers lose interest and move to other platforms quickly if they experience too many failed trades. CMIIW.
If it's about gambling, the outcome of Ramm cannot be manipulated. In my personal opinion, we are in a market full of manipulation, so we need to acknowledge the positives for us. When it comes to trading, futures trading, in my view, is also a form of gambling. We should only engage in long-term investments for proper trading. We are playing in the gambling game of market makers.
Regarding Ramm, it doesn't seem to involve predicting the exact price range; indeed, it makes it difficult for us to understand.

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Risk Automated Market Maker (RAMM) Technology raised two main problems: The risk of unsafe exchanges. 2. Market manipulation by whales. They did not succeed in explaining it. I searched on the site and on the Internet and did not find a clear explanation of how to solve the two problems. Returning to the definition, they will use the blockchain components as results in the future, and with 2 opposite outcome groups for risk exchange, I see that the project adds additional risks and, through the difference between the results of current and future risks, achieves a profit, but such ideas have ended badly in most DEX.
I agree with you; their explanations have not been comprehensive, leaving many readers with too many questions, much like previous DEX launches that seemed abstract. Certainly, it will take some time for users to be able to use their product, won't it?

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Risk Automated Market Maker (RAMM) Technology raised two main problems: The risk of unsafe exchanges. 2. Market manipulation by whales. They did not succeed in explaining it. I searched on the site and on the Internet and did not find a clear explanation of how to solve the two problems. Returning to the definition, they will use the blockchain components as results in the future, and with 2 opposite outcome groups for risk exchange, I see that the project adds additional risks and, through the difference between the results of current and future risks, achieves a profit, but such ideas have ended badly in most DEX.
I find it completely different from DEX, and the most significant difference is using the hash string as the result. The two opposing result groups mentioned by RammDex can be understood as the buying and selling sides, similar to CEX.

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As far as I know, this is still a new technology, and where its users usually deposit in stablecoins like USDC, this is a liquidity pool. Then the benefit that can be obtained here is that it reduces the manipulation of large investors.

In addition to the benefits I mentioned, it also provides trading opportunities. Then the challenges that RAMM can face are that the volatility is too high for the Ramm token, and the adoption is also too limited because of the new technology.
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Previously, when I heard about AMM technology, it was truly difficult to understand. Then, with the advent of DEX platforms, everything became much more understandable. So, I think when RammDex is launched, everything about Ramm technology will become easier to understand.

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As far as I know, this is still a new technology, and where its users usually deposit in stablecoins like USDC, this is a liquidity pool. Then the benefit that can be obtained here is that it reduces the manipulation of large investors.

In addition to the benefits I mentioned, it also provides trading opportunities. Then the challenges that RAMM can face are that the volatility is too high for the Ramm token, and the adoption is also too limited because of the new technology.
Thank you for your input. I have also grasped some understanding of liquidity pools. It's truly a new technology, so it's challenging to anticipate what factors will give value to the Ramm token. However, there hasn't been any information from RammDex about the launch of a token yet.

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As far as I know, this is still a new technology, and where its users usually deposit in stablecoins like USDC, this is a liquidity pool. Then the benefit that can be obtained here is that it reduces the manipulation of large investors.

In addition to the benefits I mentioned, it also provides trading opportunities. Then the challenges that RAMM can face are that the volatility is too high for the Ramm token, and the adoption is also too limited because of the new technology.
Thank you for your input. I have also grasped some understanding of liquidity pools. It's truly a new technology, so it's challenging to anticipate what factors will give value to the Ramm token. However, there hasn't been any information from RammDex about the launch of a token yet.
They mentioned the token launch in Q2 of this year; you should revisit the project's roadmap. I believe a project is truly beneficial to the community; the more valuable the token will be, it will be inflated rather than necessarily having intrinsic value for the project. Many tokens of current L2 projects are also somewhat speculative. However, during the altcoin season, they are often pushed higher, and liquidity is very good.

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I agree with you; their explanations have not been comprehensive, leaving many readers with too many questions, much like previous DEX launches that seemed abstract. Certainly, it will take some time for users to be able to use their product, won't it?

More time will not change anything. They will exploit the rising market to obtain liquidity and give investors a higher return. The service will be good, but as soon as the market trend changes, fraud and bankruptcy will begin.

I find it completely different from DEX, and the most significant difference is using the hash string as the result. The two opposing result groups mentioned by RammDex can be understood as the buying and selling sides, similar to CEX.
But there is no central connection. The problem in these pools is always ensuring more deposits, which is often obtained by giving a higher return. This higher return, if it does not achieve quick profits, will lead to the service not fulfilling obligations and then scam.

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I agree with you; their explanations have not been comprehensive, leaving many readers with too many questions, much like previous DEX launches that seemed abstract. Certainly, it will take some time for users to be able to use their product, won't it?

More time will not change anything. They will exploit the rising market to obtain liquidity and give investors a higher return. The service will be good, but as soon as the market trend changes, fraud and bankruptcy will begin.

They use the Web3 wallet for trading, so the user's assets always stay in the wallet, unlike CEX exchanges going bankrupt and customers losing their entire assets.

In a downtrend, anything can happen, and we cannot predict what. In 2021, could you predict that FTX would collapse to warn everyone?

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I find it completely different from DEX, and the most significant difference is using the hash string as the result. The two opposing result groups mentioned by RammDex can be understood as the buying and selling sides, similar to CEX.
But there is no central connection. The problem in these pools is always ensuring more deposits, which is often obtained by giving a higher return. This higher return, if it does not achieve quick profits, will lead to the service not fulfilling obligations and then scam.
You are confusing AMM with RAMM, of course, any liquidity pool needs to be abundant. The issue with RAMM is different. Today, I have carefully reviewed the whitepaper of RammDex. RAMM is not a place that provides liquidity to reward liquidity providers as DEX platforms do. The liquidity pool of RAMM is created continuously by a group of people, among whom there are always two groups selecting two opposing results. These results are taken from the upcoming Hash string, and the Hash string is immutable. When the result is known, any unmatched assets will be returned to the account without transaction fees.

 

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