Tornado Cash sanctions were reversed by Texas Court - win for crypto privacy

[bitmover]

IMO it's not very good comparison, since Tornado Cash is decentralized where the creator can't stop/prevent people from misuse it. Meanwhile Silk Road was centralized, where Ross could delete any listing or ban any user.

I agree.

And as tornado cash is a dapp it can never be stopped. Not even now,  or when the creator was in jail.

You can only stop the front end, never the back end. As long as etheruek network is running tornado cash will be running.

[Freemind]

IMO it's not very good comparison, since Tornado Cash is decentralized where the creator can't stop/prevent people from misuse it. Meanwhile Silk Road was centralized, where Ross could delete any listing or ban any user.

You're right about that, but what would have happened if Ulbricht had banned and removed every post, deal or business that seemed to him (whether it was or not) to be illegal? I suppose Silk Road would probably have fallen into oblivion shortly after its birth. But they are still very different cases.

[bitmover]

IMO it's not very good comparison, since Tornado Cash is decentralized where the creator can't stop/prevent people from misuse it. Meanwhile Silk Road was centralized, where Ross could delete any listing or ban any user.

You're right about that, but what would have happened if Ulbricht had banned and removed every post, deal or business that seemed to him (whether it was or not) to be illegal? I suppose Silk Road would probably have fallen into oblivion shortly after its birth. But they are still very different cases.

Well, it is much better to see Silk Road fall into the oblivion then to spend many of the best years of your life in jail...

He was lucky to get out earlier, but many of his best years of life were wasted in jail... This is very sad, and I don't know how much of the all those crimes is he really responsible....

[dkbit98]

You're right about that, but what would have happened if Ulbricht had banned and removed every post, deal or business that seemed to him (whether it was or not) to be illegal? I suppose Silk Road would probably have fallen into oblivion shortly after its birth. But they are still very different cases.

Deleting would not help a lot as agents infiltrated, recorded and monitored everything.
Back then Bitcoin trading was not legal or illegal, it was obscure thing used by small number of people and almost nobody expected it would become much more valuable in future.
Interesting that in whole process some government agents stole a lot of coins and they thought it was all anonymous and private.

[bitmover]

You're right about that, but what would have happened if Ulbricht had banned and removed every post, deal or business that seemed to him (whether it was or not) to be illegal? I suppose Silk Road would probably have fallen into oblivion shortly after its birth. But they are still very different cases.

Deleting would not help a lot as agents infiltrated, recorded and monitored everything.
Back then Bitcoin trading was not legal or illegal, it was obscure thing used by small number of people and almost nobody expected it would become much more valuable in future.
Interesting that in whole process some government agents stole a lot of coins and they thought it was all anonymous and private.

Basically everything you write in the website is public, and saved somewhere.

Even this forum is scrapped by PX-Z. Everything you post here, no matter you delete or not, is saved in his server.

Imagine Twitter, bitcointalk, reddit, etc... everything you do is recorded

[Freemind]

Basically everything you write in the website is public, and saved somewhere.

Even this forum is scrapped by PX-Z. Everything you post here, no matter you delete or not, is saved in his server.

Imagine Twitter, bitcointalk, reddit, etc... everything you do is recorded

I know perfectly well that everything, absolutely everything, is stored, in one place or another. When I said delete, I don't mean delete things to try to eliminate "evidence" or things like that, I mean delete things for morality and ethics. Virtually no one can hide on the Internet, least of all those who have a website or a forum, for example.

[examplens]

This case continues to develop in a "good" direction.
Although it is a bit of a strange time for such decisions, it means that these days pressure is being put on all mixers, and no-kyc exchanges by Bybit and their declared war against Lazarus. It was already announced earlier that a certain amount of hacked coins passed through the Tornado mixer

The US Treasury removed TORN, the native asset of Tornado Cash mixer, from the Office of Foreign Assets Control’s sanctions list. As a result, TRON has rallied 75% in the past hour.

https://beincrypto.com/us-treasury-tornado-cash-sanctions-removed-tron-surges/

[dkbit98]

This case continues to develop in a "good" direction.
Although it is a bit of a strange time for such decisions, it means that these days pressure is being put on all mixers, and no-kyc exchanges by Bybit and their declared war against Lazarus. It was already announced earlier that a certain amount of hacked coins passed through the Tornado mixer

Things are moving in good direction for now, but I am sure they are preparing something behind the scenes.
Regulators are also claiming they are deeply concerned about continued use of Tornado cash by people.
I totally forgot that Tornado cash had a token TORN, and that had a huge spike in price.