Tyson Fury Vs Oleksandr Usyk (18 May) - discussion and prediction topic

[pawel7777]

Anyway, I don't think that this will affect him, and he will pursue that rematch because after all, he wants a revenge against Usyk. Fighters can fell their spirit broken because they're human after all. It's a human nature. What matters now is how he can recover from this one, and his first loss.

Hopefully he'll sort himself out in time for the rematch.
Just to add, many were speculating he might have suffered much more damage in that fight that was visible at first glance. In his post-fight ring interview, he gave a coherent speech but, out of the blue, he finished it with wishing "happy new year" which caused some concerns.

[Baofeng]

not sure if there will still be a rematch between the two. but Fury Fury wasn't handling the loss well. and just like Ryan, he was also drinking heavily, just today i saw this post about him got shitfaced and was escorted out the pub.

https://x.com/HappyPunch/status/1800323344123736118

after all the money he won, he is still just like the rest of the fighters who lost a fight and left with broken spirit. someone should stop him from reading comments on the internet 

Reminds of Ricky Hatton, after his devastating lost to Manny Pacquiao, he goes on devastated and went into depression, getting into alcohol in the beginning and then drugs later.

I just do wish that someone behind him, like his Father will take back Tyson again and slap the hell out of him to break make into consciousness because there is still a rematch that will take place and he will have to win that.

[pawel7777]

Reminds of Ricky Hatton, after his devastating lost to Manny Pacquiao, he goes on devastated and went into depression, getting into alcohol in the beginning and then drugs later.

Yeah, the end of Ricky's career wasn't pretty.
I guess that's what happens when all the perception of self-worth is derived from your career successes and when it abruptly gets taken away from you.
Hopefully Fury has much stronger moral fundaments that won't let him fall too deep if his career doesn't go as planned.

[Rruchi man]

Hopefully Fury has much stronger moral fundaments that won't let him fall too deep if his career doesn't go as planned.

He has family that can help him through this difficult time, and he is also a believer in the Christian faith, so that can help him as well.
You have to lose once in a while for you to really appreciate winning. Fury has to see things this way, so he can prepare to win the rematch.

It will be shameful for someone who has been successful all through his career to end his career in this state.

[Baofeng]

Reminds of Ricky Hatton, after his devastating lost to Manny Pacquiao, he goes on devastated and went into depression, getting into alcohol in the beginning and then drugs later.

Yeah, the end of Ricky's career wasn't pretty.
I guess that's what happens when all the perception of self-worth is derived from your career successes and when it abruptly gets taken away from you.
Hopefully Fury has much stronger moral fundaments that won't let him fall too deep if his career doesn't go as planned.

There are videos of Fury, training and back in the gym doing heavy bags, but not sure if this is after his fall out or thte videos of him surfacing about getting kick out from the bear.

And just like you as a fan, he should be standing and not affected by the first lost to Usyk. They still have the rematch, huge potential money in the table if he is going to win. So why not waste it by going out and drinking and doing YOLO? Fury should have known better because he has been in the kind of situation before and was able to conquer his demons.

[JoyMarsha]

not sure if there will still be a rematch between the two. but Fury Fury wasn't handling the loss well. and just like Ryan, he was also drinking heavily, just today i saw this post about him got shitfaced and was escorted out the pub.

https://x.com/HappyPunch/status/1800323344123736118

after all the money he won, he is still just like the rest of the fighters who lost a fight and left with broken spirit. someone should stop him from reading comments on the internet 

Tyson Fury is back to his fit. I learned recently that he has gone back to training, to prepare for his rematch against Usyk.

In life, not everyone can take up defeat for the first time in their career and act like nothing happened. When I heard about the news of Tyson Fury's spotted drug, I felt bad for him, but at the same knows that he's gonna feel better. When he does, he would face his fears with his full flesh being.   

[Baofeng]

not sure if there will still be a rematch between the two. but Fury Fury wasn't handling the loss well. and just like Ryan, he was also drinking heavily, just today i saw this post about him got shitfaced and was escorted out the pub.

https://x.com/HappyPunch/status/1800323344123736118

after all the money he won, he is still just like the rest of the fighters who lost a fight and left with broken spirit. someone should stop him from reading comments on the internet 

Tyson Fury is back to his fit. I learned recently that he has gone back to training, to prepare for his rematch against Usyk.

In life, not everyone can take up defeat for the first time in their career and act like nothing happened. When I heard about the news of Tyson Fury's spotted drug, I felt bad for him, but at the same knows that he's gonna feel better. When he does, he would face his fears with his full flesh being.

We will see if he is really back or just doing it for promotions or stuff. But definitely we have seen his history and we all know that he is capable of a big comeback. But it's going to be tough as he suffered his first career lost.

And proper to the Usyk fight, majority has been hinting that Fury might not be really in the fight mentally and they could be right as we have seen his performance and it's way below what we expect of him and he could really be losing in the psyche war which is very odd for Fury as he usually do all the trash talking. But in this fight Usyk is not responding to all his antics and all that trash talking could have backfired on him.

[pawel7777]

Tyson wasn't very active before the Usyk mega-fight. In 2023, he only fought Francis Ngannou, technically a win, but not one to be proud of. He got knocked down by a guy with little to none boxing experience, ho later got ran over by Anthony Joshua.
So this must feel like a 2nd loss in a row for him, which is usually a massive blow to the confidence, especially for the fighters who have been previously undefeated.
But who knows, maybe this will actually work nicely for his motivation. In the past, he mentioned he was lacking motivation for regular fights, but now, everything's on the line for him.

[LogitechMouse]

Did anybody read this article already regarding an interview where Fury is saying that "fight was too easy at times, like he was in there with a local amateur boxer". Here's the LINK.

“It was actually a lot easier than I thought it would be, the Usyk fight – a lot easier,” Fury said on his FUROCITY podcast. “People saying, ‘Oh, he’s a hard man to hit.’ I was lighting him up with three-, four-punch combinations, laughing at him. My problem in that fight, I probably had too much fun. It was probably too easy. At times, it was too easy.

“It was like I was in there with a local amateur boxer, and I was just enjoying it too much, messing around. (I) paid the ultimate price in Round 9 where I got a 10-8 round and got clipped. That’s what happens when you have too much fun. They always tell me, ‘Never mix your work with having fun,’ and I always gave them the middle finger, and it’s come back now to me.”

Apparently, he laughed at Usyk, and it came to a point where he became too cocky hence, he paid the price by getting knocked down in the 9th round and that possibly changed the whole fight. Anyway, we will see a rematch in the end of the year, and he must win this one to get those titles and have a trilogy.

[bisdak40]

Did anybody read this article already regarding an interview where Fury is saying that "fight was too easy at times, like he was in there with a local amateur boxer". Here's the LINK.

“It was actually a lot easier than I thought it would be, the Usyk fight – a lot easier,” Fury said on his FUROCITY podcast. “People saying, ‘Oh, he’s a hard man to hit.’ I was lighting him up with three-, four-punch combinations, laughing at him. My problem in that fight, I probably had too much fun. It was probably too easy. At times, it was too easy.

“It was like I was in there with a local amateur boxer, and I was just enjoying it too much, messing around. (I) paid the ultimate price in Round 9 where I got a 10-8 round and got clipped. That’s what happens when you have too much fun. They always tell me, ‘Never mix your work with having fun,’ and I always gave them the middle finger, and it’s come back now to me.”

Apparently, he laughed at Usyk, and it came to a point where he became too cocky hence, he paid the price by getting knocked down in the 9th round and that possibly changed the whole fight. Anyway, we will see a rematch in the end of the year, and he must win this one to get those titles and have a trilogy.

The problem with Tyson Fury is that he was too cocky (maybe that is his style) that he forgot that he was facing a unified champion in Usyk. If only he was focused and determined, he could have defeated the much smaller Usyk. Now that the rematch has been set this end of the year, i think Fury will have a different game plan to beat Usyk and not be over-confident this time around.

[bitbit97]

Anthony Joshua also said that he will have a different fight plan and will be different in their second fight. However Usyk vs Joshua second fight was the same as their first. Fury also plans to be different, but that would happen if only Usyk allows it. Usyk will be trying to impose his own fighting style. «Styles makes fights». Fury must prepare something else and new for this fight. In two last fights, he has underestimated his opponents, and believed to much in himself. The result - paid for it.

[pawel7777]

Now that the rematch has been set this end of the year, i think Fury will have a different game plan to beat Usyk and not be over-confident this time around.

I'm not sure about the over-confidence thing, if anything, I think he was lacking the confidence a bit. In the rematch, I'd expect him to press much harder and seek for a KO. Trying to score points and leaving it to the judges did not work for him.

[pawel7777]

And it happened. Oleksandr Usyk has vacated his IBF belt:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/jun/26/oleksandr-usyk-vacates-ibf-world-title-daniel-dubois-anthony-joshua

Not much of a surprise here. I knew that was very likely to happen. Especially after they introduced the interim belt and we know that the winner will be fighting AJ next.
It might be an unpopular opinion but I think the IBF did the right thing (assuming they forced Usyk to vacate it rather that being his decision).
The rules are there for a reason, and if the champ is not willing to fight the mandatory challenger despite being healthy, he should be stripped.
And from the the IBF perspective, it's probably more prestigious to have their own champion rather than being just a part of a bundle. Especially when it creates a potential for another unifying match later down the line.

[Baofeng]

And it happened. Oleksandr Usyk has vacated his IBF belt:
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/jun/26/oleksandr-usyk-vacates-ibf-world-title-daniel-dubois-anthony-joshua

Not much of a surprise here. I knew that was very likely to happen. Especially after they introduced the interim belt and we know that the winner will be fighting AJ next.
It might be an unpopular opinion but I think the IBF did the right thing (assuming they forced Usyk to vacate it rather that being his decision).
The rules are there for a reason, and if the champ is not willing to fight the mandatory challenger despite being healthy, he should be stripped.
And from the the IBF perspective, it's probably more prestigious to have their own champion rather than being just a part of a bundle. Especially when it creates a potential for another unifying match later down the line.

+1. Yeah, it's forthcoming and although we want Usyk to defend the all the belts in the rematch, IBF still firm on their rules to be followed and so Usyk is stripped of the belt. So it will be AJ and Dubois and then the winner fighting the winner of Usyk v s Fury.

So still good for us boxing fans, and again we have to thank His Excellency Turki Alalshikh for making this fight possible. As he had brokered and make us love the HW division again and push the boundaries in making great fights.